Travis Black
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Cheap LS 4.8 LR4: Full Test Run, Tear Down, and Inspection
I’ve been in the market for a super cheap 4.8 to rob parts from for one of my personal motors. The price was right for this unit and I figured there was no better way to figure out what was up with it than firing it up on the runstand.
If you would like this engine for yourself please buy it from me. I do not want it.
I also have many other engines and swap parts that I’m always trying to move. The more people buy the more I’ll go get more.
Parts used in this video
MSD LS ignition box:
www.holley.com/products/ignition/ignition_boxes/street_and_strip/parts/6014
Intake manifold:
www.holley.com/products/ls_power/ls_intakes/single_plane/parts/300-132
Carb:
www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetors/street_strip/parts/Q-750
Headers:
www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/turbo_headers/parts/11535FLT
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Firebird Update: More Weight Loss and a Few Cosmetics
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With my goal being to have this car be under 2600lbs I’ve had to get pretty creative. In this video I’m installing the last few parts left that can lose any weight, along with cutting out absolutely everything that doesn’t need to be there. Parts used in this video: Rear brakes (non-vented) www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdRear?itemno=140-0263-BD Rear brakes (vented parking brake) www.wil...
1972 Nova 1 Day LS Swap: BTR cam 5.3 And Built 4L60e
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We’ve decided to redirect the 1972 nova that I showed on that channel all the way back in March of last year. The car has been sitting in another garage ever since waiting for its own powertrain. The engine were installing is a stock 2001 LM7 5.3 iron block with just a BTR truck Norris NSR cam. Cam specs are 212/22x 107LSA (I believe the exhaust duration is 224). My goal with this video is to s...
Aluminum 6.0 LS Inspection And Test Fire: LFA and 2ML70 Hybrid Escalade Drivetrain
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I finally acquired one of the holy grails of LS engines: an aluminum 6 liter. Although it’s not technically an LS2 it’s still just as good. Other than my personal 2012 Silverado I’ve really never messed with (running) gen 4 engines, so I’m excited to continue to experiment with this one. If anyone is looking for a used 2ML70 hybrid transmission please let me know. I don’t need this 300lb thing ...
Junkyard LS Hunting: Return to Santa Paula Pick The Part
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Www.newvintageusa.com use code:Travis Black for 10% off your total
L86 6.2 Liter LT1 Engine Full Teardown: Exploded Internals and Absolute Carnage
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I was contacted by a viewer and told that they had an engine that was hastily swapped out of a 2017 Cadillac Escalade and had been sitting on his shop floor for about a year. Someone guessed that it potentially “dropped a valve” but no one had any idea. I was hoping that maybe it just had a common AFM lifter issue and that I would score one of my dream engines totally free. Nothing in life ever...
1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 7: 5 Lug Front Swap With Aerospace Brakes And Centerline Wheels
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Www.newvintageusa.com use code:Travis Black for 10% off your total Parts used in this video Aerospace brakes: shop.aerospacecomponents.com/4pistonfrontprostreetkit71-77vega.aspx Centerline autodrags: centerlinewheels.com/wheel/005-auto-drag-2-0/?cat=145 Centerline convo pro: centerlinewheels.com/wheel/000-convo-pro/?cat=56
LS 5.3 L59 on the runstand
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Picked up another 5.3 from local classifieds. I definitely want to start keeping a lot of different stuff in stock. Feel free to reach out with whatever LS platform you’re looking for. Chances are I’ll either have it or can get it very quickly. Www.newvintageusa.com use code:Travis Black for 10% off your total Parts that I use on my runstand Intake manifold: www.holley.com/products/ls_power/ls_...
Hot Rod Powertour West 2023 Day 3: Pomona Dragstrip
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Hot Rod Powertour West 2023 Day 3: Pomona Dragstrip
Hot Rod Powertour West 2023 Day 1: Irwindale speedway
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Hot Rod Powertour West 2023 Day 1: Irwindale speedway
Return of the 350 v8 Monza: Mini Update + Exhaust Testing Part 6
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Return of the 350 v8 Monza: Mini Update Exhaust Testing Part 6
LS 5.3 LM7 on the Runstand: BTR Stage 2 Truck Cam Test
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LS 5.3 LM7 on the Runstand: BTR Stage 2 Truck Cam Test
Firebird Full Chassis Rewire + Extra Fixes
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Firebird Full Chassis Rewire Extra Fixes
Junkyard LQ4 6.0 LS on the Runstand: She’s A Runner
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Junkyard LQ4 6.0 LS on the Runstand: She’s A Runner
Junkyard LS Hunting: How Many 6.0s Can We Find At Sun Valley LKQ?
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Junkyard LS Hunting: How Many 6.0s Can We Find At Sun Valley LKQ?
1971 El Camino Carbed LS-T56 Swap Part 1: Test Firing, Cleaning, and Prepping the Aluminum 5.3
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1971 El Camino Carbed LS-T56 Swap Part 1: Test Firing, Cleaning, and Prepping the Aluminum 5.3
1966 Chevy C10 LT1 to LS1 Part 2: Getting The New Motor In And Fired Up
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1966 Chevy C10 LT1 to LS1 Part 2: Getting The New Motor In And Fired Up
1966 Chevy C10 LT1 to LS1 Part 1: Pulling Out A 20 Year Old Swap
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1966 Chevy C10 LT1 to LS1 Part 1: Pulling Out A 20 Year Old Swap
Junkyard LS Hunting: Back To Sun Valley LKQ PYP For Swap Parts
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Junkyard LS Hunting: Back To Sun Valley LKQ PYP For Swap Parts
Firing Up The Nova’s LS 5.3 In The Garage
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Firing Up The Nova’s LS 5.3 In The Garage
1972 Chevy Nova Abandoned LS Swap: Reveal and Tear Down
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1972 Chevy Nova Abandoned LS Swap: Reveal and Tear Down
The Firebird Is Back
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The Firebird Is Back
Double Aluminum LS 5.3 Engine Tear Down: High Performance L33 and LH6
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Double Aluminum LS 5.3 Engine Tear Down: High Performance L33 and LH6
1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 5: Wrapping up the Interior
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1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 5: Wrapping up the Interior
Junkyard LS Hunting: 2 More Aluminum LS Engines for the Collection
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Junkyard LS Hunting: 2 More Aluminum LS Engines for the Collection
Junkyard LS Hunting: Finding an Aluminum LH6 5.3 at LKQ Sun Valley
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Junkyard LS Hunting: Finding an Aluminum LH6 5.3 at LKQ Sun Valley
1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 4: First Car Show +Exhaust, Gauges, Interior, and More Burnouts
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1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 4: First Car Show Exhaust, Gauges, Interior, and More Burnouts
Free 6.0 LQ4 Update: Always Check Your Cam Bearings
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Free 6.0 LQ4 Update: Always Check Your Cam Bearings
C5 Corvette Ratty Drag Car Part 2: cleaning up the engine bay with Granatelli Motorsports
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C5 Corvette Ratty Drag Car Part 2: cleaning up the engine bay with Granatelli Motorsports
1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 3: Finally Driving and Doing Burnouts
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1975 350 V8 Chevrolet Monza Part 3: Finally Driving and Doing Burnouts

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @jasonwilson1677
    @jasonwilson1677 22 години тому

    The problem we ran into in the nineties is that they ran too hot with the three fifty

  • @СергейПискунов-р9й

    Please tell me, what are the differences in the wiring of the lm4 and lh6 engines? Can I use the lh6 wiring for my lm4 and what changes should I make? (I have the wiring of the lm7 engine as a donor) Thank you in advance.

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 3 дні тому

      @@СергейПискунов-р9й it all depends on what your goal actually is. Is this a swap? What year specifically is your LH6? I pretty much never recommend using LM7 wiring as a donor.

    • @СергейПискунов-р9й
      @СергейПискунов-р9й 2 дні тому

      @travisblack417 I want to make a swap. I have envoy 2002 with dead inline 6 and lm4 engine with stuff for it, but without wiring. Also i have lm7 and lh6 wiring, but i couldn't find original wiring for lm4(

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 дні тому

      So the problem lies with the fact that the inline 6 stuff is quite different than any of the v8’s. Doing a v8 swap in a trailblazer regardless of year is a pretty big pain in the ass. You’ll have to pick which PCM version you’re going to go with, and then how to pin it out from there. P01 is 01-02, P59 is 03-04, E40 is 05-06, E38 is 07+. You can see where this gets challenging.

    • @СергейПискунов-р9й
      @СергейПискунов-р9й 2 дні тому

      @@travisblack417 Ah shit .. iv got 2005 pcm, so it is for lh6 i think( the swap will be harder, than i thought

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 дні тому

      @@СергейПискунов-р9й I’m pretty sure the 2002 specifically (and the other years with the inline 6) use a totally different PCM unit than all the v6 and v8 trucks. The only way I’d assume you’d make this thing run again and seem close to normal is to basically make a 2003 LM4 setup and have it be happy with the 2002 body control module. I’m not familiar with the intricacies of the factory body modules and systems because I never v8 swap late model vehicles, I only steal the power trains I want and throw the rest away.

  • @aftermathwhite4955
    @aftermathwhite4955 5 днів тому

    I need a 6.0 buddy

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 5 днів тому

      @@aftermathwhite4955 I’ve got one right now

    • @aftermathwhite4955
      @aftermathwhite4955 5 днів тому

      @travisblack417 how much do u need ?

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 5 днів тому

      @@aftermathwhite4955 send me a message on Instagram or find my phone number there

  • @PeterHatch-mx7zc
    @PeterHatch-mx7zc 6 днів тому

    Cut your hair looks so dirty it's 2024 mate

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 6 днів тому

      @@PeterHatch-mx7zc no

    • @PeterHatch-mx7zc
      @PeterHatch-mx7zc 6 днів тому

      @travisblack417 sad you should go look in the mirror dirty and stringy

  • @Jbone2737
    @Jbone2737 9 днів тому

    🦾🙏🏽

  • @lifeinchicago60647
    @lifeinchicago60647 9 днів тому

    Question for you. Did you have to massage the trans tunnel to fit the 4L60E?

  • @Q_IXIX
    @Q_IXIX 13 днів тому

    Where u located.. what do u do with all these motors

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 13 днів тому

      @@Q_IXIX Southern California. I sell them

  • @Rod-h2b
    @Rod-h2b 16 днів тому

    Great content…very helpful! Building an LQ4, switching to DBW using the TBSS intake and TB. Is it possible to rewire the 8 pin harness with the newer 6 pin plug for the TBSS TB? I grabbed the plug and harness with enough wire to reach the ECM. I know there’s a $300 Xlink adapter, just didn’t want to go that way if I can make this work. Again, great channel, great content!!

  • @Rod-h2b
    @Rod-h2b 16 днів тому

    Great content…very helpful! Building an LQ4, switching to DBW using the TBSS intake and TB. Is it possible to rewire the 8 pin harness with the newer 6 pin plug for the TBSS TB? I grabbed the plug and harness with enough wire to reach the ECM. I know there’s a $300 Xlink adapter, just didn’t want to go that way if I can make this work. Again, great channel, great content!!

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 16 днів тому

      @@Rod-h2b why are you running DBW in the first place?

    • @Rod-h2b
      @Rod-h2b 16 днів тому

      Engine is going in a GMC Safari…tight quarters, I thought it would be easier. If there’s a DBC TB that would work better with the TBSS intake I’m open to that

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 16 днів тому

      Just pick your brand of choice for a 4 bolt aftermarket cable throttle body. It will bolt directly up to the TBSS manifold.

  • @larryjohnson3033
    @larryjohnson3033 23 дні тому

    1501 or 1506 heads?

  • @larryjohnson3033
    @larryjohnson3033 24 дні тому

    Nice! 1501 or 1506

  • @hassanalsadah6505
    @hassanalsadah6505 24 дні тому

    Where is part 3 for this project 😢

  • @MsJhook
    @MsJhook 24 дні тому

    Nice

  • @fsu3784
    @fsu3784 25 днів тому

    Can I use a lm7 wire harness on a l59? I know there’s sensors on l59 but I really just want gas only

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 25 днів тому

      @@fsu3784 the LM7 and L59 are 100% mechanically identical. There are zero different sensors on the engines. The different RPO code is purely due to the different size injectors and tuning in the original vehicle.

    • @fsu3784
      @fsu3784 25 днів тому

      @ thank you! I got a 5.3 from junkyard yesterday and it’s messing with me looking up parts for what it says it’s out of. An 04 avalanche and when I plug that information in nothing fits and I can’t understand why. Even cams. Not a single cam that should fit does. It’s weird

  • @JasonSmith-y7h
    @JasonSmith-y7h 27 днів тому

    That sounds sweet what can is in it do you know by chance or sorry new to your stuff trying to get on the van wagon with a ls is all

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 27 днів тому

      @@JasonSmith-y7h bone stock. 196/201 116LSA

  • @larry_to_goated7716
    @larry_to_goated7716 29 днів тому

    You should’ve revved it like the dude did in that video when the other dude said that the engine won’t run and he proved him wrong 😂

  • @scottsloan1300
    @scottsloan1300 Місяць тому

    I test drove one that sucker would go

  • @stat638
    @stat638 Місяць тому

    How long can you Run that engine with out actually running the water pump?

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 Місяць тому

      @@stat638 a while. The motor isn’t under any load.

  • @hughiemaceachern5282
    @hughiemaceachern5282 Місяць тому

    U can change plugs without lifting motor use wrench on back driver side

  • @hughiemaceachern5282
    @hughiemaceachern5282 Місяць тому

    U got Reed off your plastic iner fender out i looked all over hell for mine lol

  • @2jz_ripsiul496
    @2jz_ripsiul496 Місяць тому

    What mods u got into this lm7 I got the same motor in my Yukon

  • @ssswdon
    @ssswdon Місяць тому

    Looks like the old Evinrude gas tank for those outboards

  • @dskitch
    @dskitch Місяць тому

    Makes me want to go back to the junkyard. I always go this yard

  • @Dwayne-mb2uj
    @Dwayne-mb2uj Місяць тому

    I live in NM now but when I lived in Ventura I used to shop in Santa Paula .I would even use Santa Paula DMV because they are just nicer people and less greedy than anyone in the valley.

  • @Dwayne-mb2uj
    @Dwayne-mb2uj Місяць тому

    If you can`t find the year look on the sticker that they placed on the drivers side rear 1/4 panel .

  • @rickhadfield1097
    @rickhadfield1097 Місяць тому

    I love your vids bud pretty sweet! From Canada

  • @jerrygrubbs6800
    @jerrygrubbs6800 Місяць тому

    I need an LS that sounds that good

  • @papergatorzfedducca7998
    @papergatorzfedducca7998 Місяць тому

    Do you have a video on how you made the engine stand?

  • @agtronic
    @agtronic Місяць тому

    Thanks to your video, I finally figured out what motor I have. I bought an engine that was sold as an LS2 out of a TBSS. Stupidly, I only started my research after I bought it. (Sort of a drunk purchase.) I realized pretty quickly that it had a weird mix of parts. Mine has no variable cam and the DOD was deleted. It still has 243 heads. The part I was confused about was the valve reliefs on the pistons and the lack of a casting number on the back of the block. Now I realize it’s an LFA that was made to look like an LS2. I don’t care too much since I’ll be changing the cam and springs anyway, and the -0.2 points of compression don’t bother me since I’ll be using a turbo. I don’t think too many people know about this 6.0.

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 Місяць тому

      If it doesn’t have VVT or AFM then it is technically a Gmt360 LS2. Gm was mixing and matching parts like pistons without changing the RPO codes.

    • @agtronic
      @agtronic Місяць тому

      @@travisblack417 Thanks for the info. If it was untouched I would just accept it as is, but I can tell the heads were off recently, as was the valley cover and front cover ... I'll take off the starter to see if it looks like there was one installed before this one. I guess the casting number on the crank might help too, 'cause I saw on Summit's info page that they should have different crank castings. The engine also came with a harness from a '09 2500 HD 6.0, so it's a bunch of mix/match by all appearances.

  • @rooster68able
    @rooster68able Місяць тому

    I no this has been up now for a miniute, but question do you build /tune ls engines ? For $ thanks justin

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 Місяць тому

      @@rooster68able what do you need done?

  • @matile427
    @matile427 Місяць тому

    Got a question for you Travis first off really appreciate the content. What size belt did you use for the Nova? Thanks James.

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 Місяць тому

      @@matile427 the ICT billet kit tells you which belt length. You should also always just measure yourself.

  • @izzy_c10
    @izzy_c10 Місяць тому

    If you find more of those heads let me know I’ll take them

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 Місяць тому

      @@izzy_c10 which?

    • @izzy_c10
      @izzy_c10 Місяць тому

      @@travisblack417 any square port heads

  • @Sig_Beezy36
    @Sig_Beezy36 2 місяці тому

    That mfer hitting

  • @matthewstorm5188
    @matthewstorm5188 2 місяці тому

    Why not get that gash on the L33 properly welded and deck the block? It doesn’t cost TOO much, and you would have a good, salable block.

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@matthewstorm5188 that’s the plan

  • @matthewstorm5188
    @matthewstorm5188 2 місяці тому

    Those engines are a PITA to remove! I found one a couple of years back in an Isuzu Ascender, and it took me THREE DAYS to pull. Admittedly, I was alone. And I didn’t start until early afternoon each day. On the other hand, the fact that the LH6 can be found in something labelled as an Isuzu or (especially) SAAB means that these are possibly the easiest aluminum LS motors to find in the junkyard.

  • @Waytoobusy
    @Waytoobusy 2 місяці тому

    What’s the lift on the cam?

  • @strangebrew5545
    @strangebrew5545 2 місяці тому

    ❤❤

  • @joethompson-tv1ss
    @joethompson-tv1ss 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, Travis. I love my Procharged LS 395 in my Corvette. Enjoy seeing the teardown and your explaining as it progresses.

  • @Vagos-Performance
    @Vagos-Performance 2 місяці тому

    Bad ass bro, one of my rods just ended itself. So imma be doing a 6.0 swap

  • @billwall3913
    @billwall3913 2 місяці тому

    great

  • @trentdawg2832
    @trentdawg2832 2 місяці тому

    I love my vortech v-3sci supercharged 4.8LS swapped ‘73 c10 shortbed fleetside…..loads of fun…until i drop my built hi compression 370” LS3 headed LQ9 into it……after my 408” for my LSA supercharged nova is done and ready…..instead of musical chairs we play musical motors over here…..my lil 4.8 is what started it all for me though, with a 220/220 cam and 3000 stall th350 it was exactly the perfect combonation to just leave ya wanting that much more…..i love my 6.0/6.2’s but dollar for dollar and pound for pound the 4.8/5.3 (3.780” bore) motors are very hard to beat!!!!

  • @davidcallahan5157
    @davidcallahan5157 2 місяці тому

    Throw quart automatic transmission fluid in it.

  • @Kroviakjm
    @Kroviakjm 2 місяці тому

    Dude amazing knowledge on the Ls based motors. Keep this going

  • @izak-ub6dw
    @izak-ub6dw 2 місяці тому

    could of been a early 04 engine

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@izak-ub6dw June of 2004 doesn’t seem very early. Most early 2004 model year vehicles were manufactured in 2003

  • @Blue04Z71
    @Blue04Z71 2 місяці тому

    Looks like castech 706 cracked heads. My 2004 Silverado 5.3 had them. Cracked at 76k miles. Look for a battery symbol under the rocker shafts.

  • @thruitallauto2538
    @thruitallauto2538 2 місяці тому

    Loctite is what’s causing the crank bolt to be tight, put a little heat on it comes right out

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@thruitallauto2538 they’re always tight, but this one needed like 5ft of breaker bar. Normally 3ft is more than enough. Also the motor was still very hot when I removed it. There was plenty of heat in the crank snout.

    • @thruitallauto2538
      @thruitallauto2538 2 місяці тому

      @@travisblack417 yeah I usually have to put a small torch on the head heat it up and it’s much easier to break lose, usually my mpact want bring it off , put that heat on there and it will back right out, it softens that loctite they have on it

  • @thruitallauto2538
    @thruitallauto2538 2 місяці тому

    That clean sludge is what antifreeze does, best hand cleaner there is antifreeze/ oil, I used to rebuild diesel engines, drain the oil with antifreeze mixed with it best hand cleaner there is

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@thruitallauto2538 i can’t find any cracks in the heads, let alone a big enough one to let this much coolant into the oil, but it does act like ethylene glycol+ oil is what’s all inside this motor. I can see how well it cleans the metal parts, but how exactly do you get the dirty goop out of the motor?

    • @thruitallauto2538
      @thruitallauto2538 2 місяці тому

      @@travisblack417 take it to a shop that has a spray vat,

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@thruitallauto2538 I mean when the motors are still in the cars. I’ve been planning on experimenting with dumping diesel fuel in the oil before I change the oil

    • @thruitallauto2538
      @thruitallauto2538 2 місяці тому

      @@travisblack417 yeah that would probably work

  • @LSDJtv
    @LSDJtv 2 місяці тому

    Just wondering what would I be looking at price wise for a gen 3 5.3 that’s been on the run stand I’m coming from Arizona

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      Send me a message or find my number on Instagram

    • @LSDJtv
      @LSDJtv 2 місяці тому

      @@travisblack417 yezzir will do

  • @GrandPitoVic
    @GrandPitoVic 2 місяці тому

    Sometimes wrist pins only make noise under compression for some reason.

  • @GrandPitoVic
    @GrandPitoVic 2 місяці тому

    Transitional engine between the Gen 3 and Gen 3.5 lol. Wow what a mix of parts

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@GrandPitoVic this thing is like a gen 3 1/4

    • @GrandPitoVic
      @GrandPitoVic 2 місяці тому

      @travisblack417 ROFLMFAO!!!!! Yea it weird

    • @trentdawg2832
      @trentdawg2832 2 місяці тому

      Lq9 was the beginning along with early 24x Ls2

    • @travisblack417
      @travisblack417 2 місяці тому

      @@trentdawg2832 the LQ9 (and LS6) were only unique because they had connecting rods that looked like the Gen 4 style but still had a press pin.

    • @trentdawg2832
      @trentdawg2832 2 місяці тому

      @@travisblack417 i didnt know they were pressed…….booooo