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So you digitize the analog record and compare that digital file to the CD and then claim that is comparing analog to digital? And we know that they did a very different mix for the CD. I actually took part in a Direct to Disc compared to a Digital (Soundstream) and 1/2 track Ampex analog tape session. An AES meeting in Nashville in the '70's. The disc was chosen 100% over both other formats. The disc was played back on the cutting lathe (SME arm) and playback was in the mastering studio.

I love these in every way. Bravo.

If we don't care about measurements,lets see how your amplifier.pre-amplifier,and crossovers work without proper measurement values for resistors and capacitors,voltage regulators,and many more conponents that go into making these equipment.

Agree with your conclusion !

Best balance between all parameters ............it took me 3 defades to make CD able to sing .....;now I enjoy both formats , analog stiil is the reference if it's good . The best sounding ( most real and natural ) recordings were made with tube technology in the mid sixties .........after mistening to more than 4000 albums that became clear evidence and fact ..even when transfered to digital .

Tweeter and mid with silver wires / silver plated. Copper with Bass. Perfect blend for your 3 way internal wires from crossover. I found the dac to preamp duo for best effect: rca with copper more bass and xlr with silver lacking bass but extremely detailed.

how is the back of the driver coupled to the horn, cant see that - love it, very sensible science in it

These make me horn ey (UA-cam won't let me write horn ey the correct way 🙄)

That looks like a really intriguing speaker. How exactly does this work that the large horn only plays bass while the midrange and above is taken care by the smaller one? Is there a "natural" low and high pass filter at play due to the special construction in order to separate the frequencies? Since it's crossover-less by design, I don't get how the separation works in this speaker. What's the price for one pair?

Congratulations, it sounds amazing for a single driver speaker. Love it. 💙🔈🎶🎶

Nice alternative to a “Black Box” speaker 👋🏻

😮 very good project my frend

Just stupid and doesn't tell anything.

7:43 there’s the rub ..if you do digital better it’s going to be ironically enough..sounding more like high quality analog 😊

GM ☕️🍩 from Toronto. A perfect match of Red Book vs OG Vinyl…a truly amazing test . Now, there will be difference signatures to the format/playback..as long as you get something that YOU LIKE 👍 Have a great day 😊

He is stupid. Or lying 🤥 He too young to remember a time when digital was the main format

I’m more comfortable with A. Very close inspection to tell the difference and using the playback route I am I am not really committed to the answer, but I’ll go with A phono B DAC.

It’s about throw away music on streaming services I don’t find any value to streaming but to play a vinyl record is totally absorbing more connection with the artist

Well done all the vinyl heads need to stop saying they can hear digital and don’t like it. No doubt the hiss and pop crew won’t accept this finding because the warm so called sound of vinyl is their thing. Petty the facts prove they couldn’t decipher the difference and proves they know swart.

I don’t doubt the sw1x DACs sound great Both digital and analog have their place I feel no need to pick one over the other sw1x components are above my finances, but if I could, I would, try their DACs and other components as they look really nice I am a SE tube enthusiast

I highly appreciate your approach to what denotes a reference source as well as actually offering comparisons to the public. Transparency is highly welcome from a client's point of view. With respect to the outcome I am not sure that I share your interpretation of the outcome. There are many ways how to set up comparisons, each with their merits and possible faults. The A/B picking approach you offered made it clear to the people participating that they should attempt to their best to decipher which is analogue and which is the digital source. Now most people "getting it wrong" and picking the digital source as the analogue one tells me simply that they enjoyed that digital source slightly more (for whatever reason, since people didn't add reasoning in form of commentary on why their choices were like this) and were indeed able to tell a difference. This is a good sign that people like the sound of the DAC and since most consider a high quality analogue source to be a reference point they chose the "better/more natural" sounding on as the analogue (but it was the digital source). However, having said that, your aim as a company pushing the envelope of digital source is to reach a presentation that is as closely to analogue as possible (or in the best case indistinguishable). Now there will always be slight differences since the chain is not exactly the same but we are talking about the type of presentation, fluidity, organic sound, some slight natural warmth etc. A test result where most participants picked one specific side for A or B tells us that statistically it's extremely unlikely that they couldn't tell any difference and this result came out by mere chance. The likelihood of that happening is extremely small (I am a data scientist btw). A test outcome close to 50/50 (picking "A" and "B" right/wrong) conducted on a sufficient number of participants on the other hand would indicate that the presentation of both chains is very similar. Now additional comments from the participants would prove very useful here since there could be two reasons for them detecting a difference: 1. The differences in the chain itself. As stated, this will always be there and if that is the reason participants could detect a difference it simply doesn't provide any evidence for or against the case of the digital source sharing the analogue type presentation. 2. Participants picked them apart by the type of presentation. In this case this test result indicates that the digital source here is not yet there where it should be, i.e. close enough to analogue presentation. So to me it feels like the idea of conducting a public test like this is great but this result is not very conclusive unfortunately. On a sidenote: Your conclusion related to no format other than 16/44.1 providing any benefits if the presentation character could be made indistinguishable from a high quality analogue source is simply incorrect from a logical point of view. Since analogue doesn't even offer that option there is no way for you to ever find out. There are two logical options: 1. Higher formats provide benefits: In this case a properly implemented digital source would have the analogue character but with additional benefits such as more detail being presented in high quality chains. Just like more modern electronics done right can provide a lower noise floor or better speaker drivers provide lower distortion. As musical as good analogue sounds, it's also limited in several ways (mechanical noise limitations, high excursion at low frequencies in recordings or for that matter also no higher formats). 2. Higher formats provide no benefits: In this case the journey ends with having a digital source being indistinguishable from a high quality analogue source. But as you can see just by creating a digital source that is indistinguishable from an analogue source does not provide any scientific evidence for your conclusion that higher formats don't provide any benefits. I hope that you will conduct further tests like these in the future. Thanks for the effort you put into this.

Where do you buy these? We can't find any trusty site to buy.

Two entirely different mastering engineers and studio equipment make this A/B void. You need to find a song mastered for vinyl and CD by the same engineer at the same time. Thousands of them are out there, so I wonder what this is about.

Only audiophiles make shootout videos using room mics. It is completely useless. Room mics are used as an effect in recording engineering and are blended very lightly in a recording. Room mics can absolutely not reproduce any form of fidelity to what is being heard in the room. Does playing back this clip on a hi-fi system sound anything close to what you hear playing the original source in the same room? Absolutely not. Properly placed mics on speakers could at least give listeners some degree of agreeable sound reproduction. To make this experiment relevant the audio from the digital source would have to come of the dac straight into the audio interface and the vinyl playback straight out of the phono preamp into the audio interface. Again, only audiophiles make such lo-fi shoutout videos. There are countless videos on UA-cam displaying shootout videos of guitar signal chain for example using much more hi-fidelity techniques.

Digital is more linear, but lost the complexity of analog playback.

Digital done right is audibly transparent. It is as "organic" as the source it is fed. It's irresponsible to be perpetuating these audio myths.

So, he has opinions about digital, fair enough. But instead of presenting them as such he is presenting them as facts about digital.

Trying to wrap my brain around this. 99% of new music is recorded using digital. Maybe more. All those AD & DA conversions use filterering, except maybe the final replay DAC correct? (Maybe you can just rely on elderly ears to filter digital artifacts above 15khz?) Even new vinyl is cut from digital masters, right? I'd imagine there is a filtered DAC before the cutting lathe, no? Where can you get pure analog, other than ancient tape? So much for new music:-/ Vinyl has filters applied before cutting. Then before replay. What is RIAA after all? But what do I know, Mr Quixote? Best wishes as i return to my Qobuz new music search. 🎵🎶🤫🎶🎵 PS maybe there's something to what you say, I use Denafrips Dacs after all.... There's definitely some processing going on there. And of course a tube preamp is a kind of processor ....

Anojing back ground music, get ride off it. 😮😮😮

Yeah right, it's one thing to compare two samples over youtube and having them played on good vinyl & digital rigs. If you think 44.1kHz PCM digital sounds the same to vinyl or R2R for that matter, you simply had little exposure to various formats. Digital and analogue sound different, period. Play a good piano or violin AAA record and you will hear the difference. Or Hugh Masakela "Hope" 45rpm, I gurantee that majoirty will pick up the difference. All formats have their strong and weak point, but no they do not sound the same. And yes I have heard the top Audio Note and Lampizator dacs.

My thoughts are that the only sensible conclusion would be that most people thought the digital sounded better and therefore assumed it must be the analogue because of preconceptions that analogue sounds better. The other thing is both have ended up being digital so people who voted are listening to a digital recording of analogue source (this might sort of make the test a bit pointless?) if they could listen to the two in your listening room one as pure analogue and the other as digital it might be a different outcome.

B is Vinyl

i briefly listened to it but i didn't vote as i couldn't pick up on the sound through youtube. In hindsight is should have listened to the WAV but i didn't know it was available. I can't comment why most people guessed incorrectly but my guess is that they are more accustomed to solid state sources therefore don't know how realistic and analogue a tube DAC can sound. Between my SW1X DAC3 BALANCED SP and LPU 2 SP I have at home i can hear the differences.

Does cartridge choice make any difference? One could argue it makes a significant contribution to quality?

Couldn't say it better myself ...

Isn´t basically any CD player a "NOS Dac"?

Anytime someone claims you can notice something subconscious you can rest assured you are listening to pure marketing bs.

Very interesting alternative perspective. Perhaps you could give you opinion on prioritising different parts of the chain for silver, especially given the high costs involved?. It is surprising how much difference silver l/s cables make for instance, but they are very costly.

A is analog, V is digital.

I hope that one day I will be able to afford this beauty.

What a beautiful dac!

It seems that this is equally important in being a consumer as well, to develop a taste. Sometimes the problem can be that taste can (and most likely will) change over time as we age, gain experience, talk to more people and learn from them, and hear more different things. This can become a difficult problem if we like many different things and can't decide, at least it tends to become expensive. :) Great video!

If people would put effort to understand how it all works it could be better explained because they eventualy would know what is happening. . Unfortunately I did not find anywhere full analysis - mainly because it is not one factor and not two at instance but much more and all of them interacting. Measurements of equipment are made without cables and speakers in room granting that they are no relevant. I would say as author - do not name it better or worse but if sounds in room are good enough, forget materials -they may be any. . I also exoperimented years but once my system tuned itself cables became for my listening meaningless.

Beautiful. Inside and out.

Older DIY audiophiles know this since ..........with a ( good ) transformer coupling ...something magic appears , the music comes alive and the singer becomes present !

this guy knows his shit⚡⚡⚡

yeah, you tell me the PSU is too weak? for 10K for a DAC?

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Couldn't say it better myself....

Hi what is the equivalent of a 6uf capacitor in the form of signal transformer ?