I experienced the same observations and needed decades to solve/save digital from being the destroyer of music ......one makes a lot of ennemies but also friend thinking and working this way . Limiting the degradation is the indeed the KEY ! Besides no digital filtering there's also a BIG problem with timing ( ryth and pace ) and respecting the flow of the melodic line that's sings a song .........there are solutions and these are more evident than brainwashed modern engineering ..........also not to use SS in the signal path is a poiint , SS makes digital only worse , even the best ( measuring ) SS circuits are no match for quality tube amplification to help preserve the feeling of natural sound/music ... Have a nice day ;
Trying to wrap my brain around this. 99% of new music is recorded using digital. Maybe more. All those AD & DA conversions use filterering, except maybe the final replay DAC correct? (Maybe you can just rely on elderly ears to filter digital artifacts above 15khz?) Even new vinyl is cut from digital masters, right? I'd imagine there is a filtered DAC before the cutting lathe, no? Where can you get pure analog, other than ancient tape? So much for new music:-/ Vinyl has filters applied before cutting. Then before replay. What is RIAA after all? But what do I know, Mr Quixote? Best wishes as i return to my Qobuz new music search. 🎵🎶🤫🎶🎵 PS maybe there's something to what you say, I use Denafrips Dacs after all.... There's definitely some processing going on there. And of course a tube preamp is a kind of processor ....
You still do not get the point ................unlearn before learning ......old ears mostly do have a natural /analog reference and are as such have more experience and have some knowledge ...music and sound are natural., not digital .......that's the brains reference unless the generations that grew up with digital and the brain took/learned the wrong way and assumes that digital is a ( fake and unatural ) reference .
@frankgeeraerts6243 The point 👉👉 Not much we can do about the recording industry BUT👉 *We ALL have an analog reference*. Get out and experience LIVE acoustic music. Or play with musician fiends! 🎵🎶🤯🎶🎵
@@nyquist5190 Digital filtering (DSP) is very differnt in nature from analogue! it does much more harm to music. our DACs employ analogue filtering. please do your homework
I experienced the same observations and needed decades to solve/save digital from being the destroyer of music ......one makes a lot of ennemies but also friend thinking and working this way .
Limiting the degradation is the indeed the KEY !
Besides no digital filtering there's also a BIG problem with timing ( ryth and pace ) and respecting the flow of the melodic line that's sings a song .........there are solutions and these are more evident than brainwashed modern engineering ..........also not to use SS in the signal path is a poiint , SS makes digital only worse , even the best ( measuring ) SS circuits are no match for quality tube amplification to help preserve the feeling of natural sound/music ...
Have a nice day ;
Trying to wrap my brain around this.
99% of new music is recorded using digital. Maybe more.
All those AD & DA conversions use filterering, except maybe the final replay DAC correct?
(Maybe you can just rely on elderly ears to filter digital artifacts above 15khz?)
Even new vinyl is cut from digital masters, right?
I'd imagine there is a filtered DAC before the cutting lathe, no?
Where can you get pure analog, other than ancient tape?
So much for new music:-/
Vinyl has filters applied before cutting. Then before replay.
What is RIAA after all?
But what do I know, Mr Quixote?
Best wishes as i return to my Qobuz new music search.
🎵🎶🤫🎶🎵
PS maybe there's something to what you say, I use Denafrips Dacs after all.... There's definitely some processing going on there.
And of course a tube preamp is a kind of processor ....
You still do not get the point ................unlearn before learning ......old ears mostly do have a natural /analog reference and are as such have more experience and have some knowledge ...music and sound are natural., not digital .......that's the brains reference unless the generations that grew up with digital and the brain took/learned the wrong way and assumes that digital is a ( fake and unatural ) reference .
@frankgeeraerts6243
The point 👉👉
Not much we can do about the recording industry BUT👉
*We ALL have an analog reference*.
Get out and experience LIVE acoustic music.
Or play with musician fiends!
🎵🎶🤯🎶🎵
Digital done right is audibly transparent. It is as "organic" as the source it is fed. It's irresponsible to be perpetuating these audio myths.
@@scottwheeler2679 Indeed. And removing filter means selling an essentially broken dac.
@@nyquist5190 any DAC that is broken will be easy to identify with basic measurements. I don't doubt that some "high end" DACs are essentially broken
@@nyquist5190 Digital filtering (DSP) is very differnt in nature from analogue! it does much more harm to music. our DACs employ analogue filtering. please do your homework
@@sw1xaudiodesign I am afraid your claims are not supported by evidence at all.
@@nyquist5190 as the saying goes the proof is in the pudding
So, he has opinions about digital, fair enough. But instead of presenting them as such he is presenting them as facts about digital.
the only difference is ours is backed up by our products and happy customers and yours are just theory and empty words
Digital is more linear, but lost the complexity of analog playback.
@@ColocasiaCorm What does that even mean?
@@nyquist5190 i don’t think i was unclear.
Anojing back ground music, get ride off it. 😮😮😮
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