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the b-roll on this video is much appreciated. i saw that terry moment live, i swear he kicked that disc in, he said he was just fixing the line, it made zero sense

Can't wait to see everyone's favorite crybaby Burr catch some probation in the future. It won't matter, people will still defend his actions and continue to polish his shoes, but I have no doubt it's in his future.

Certifying a letter proves it was mailed

James Conrad- The habitual line stepper😂😂

I love the analysis between disc golf and law. I just need to find a job that allows me to do both.

Is the pdga or the players entering into litigation with J Ray?

Thanks for the look into these decisions. As a former TD, I know that things are not exactly as they seem, and some people have ulterior motives for some complaints and observations. However, I believe that the PDGA has more information than we have here, and, as such, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt in the accuracy of their decisions. The game is changing, from the 1970's, when I started playing DG, to what it is today, and the PDGA has to change with it. I think they have the best of the sport and competition in mind.

After hearing why Eric got suspended it’s crazy for me to think of how Nikki Locastro isn’t put “under investigation” because specifically late rounds of USDGC he was acting absolutely uncalled for.

I can see where McCray's frustration comes from. The official had one job which she failed to do properly.

Another excellent video. Thanks! You didn't mention what constitutes a violation of the probation or the consequences for violating probation in these two cases. Would love to hear your thoughts on these.

Eric Oakley is the worst. Hilarious that he’s acting like he has absolutely no idea what’s going on

Doin conrad so dirty. hilarious.

The big part you neglected to mention about JohnE'S marshall incident is that she couldn't second it because she wasn't in a position to make the call. She was over 60' away. Not paying attention is one thing, not in the vicinity is a dereliction of her job at the time.

Shouldn't the scammer and money embezzler have legal charges placed against him?

haha great clips

Oakley is a straight up d bag at times, I only had to watch him play a few times to see it…

Whoa! Does this suggest that there may come a time when time violations have actual consequences? Maybe not as harsh as the NBA 24-second violation. But perhaps far greater consequences than getting mentioned in social media.

Ray got off easy. . .no?

Lock Barry Shultz up

We need an ADGA amateur governing body. It’s ridiculous that there is only 1 in all of disc golf.

We do know the PDGA did not get it "right" with Eric Oakley as there is no detailed information as to why he was put on probation.

@1:53 wait.... what?

Should’ve pronounced oaklay for continuity

is it not a fact that you are a lawyer working directly for the PDGA?

If you gave Ray a class E, and didn't reinstate him until all fees are paid in full, wouldn't that be tantamount to a lifetime ban? So, giving him a class B would allow him to be reinstated more "easily"?

the b-roll may be the a-roll in this case 🤣

The "A" holes that make up the upper level of the PDGA are just a pack of absolute jerks.

Nikko got a worse punishment for arguing with a guy than the guy who stole $27,000. Ridiculous.

Well, JRay, there was no wind

Eric Oakley is trash...0 DGPT wins....0 Majors...0 NT Wins...Wont have a tour card by next year...Hopefully Mcdonalds is hiring...

You might double check who the disciplinary committee chairman is currently

As much as I like Eric, he and McCray need anger management training. That being said, yes they got their punishments right. As for Ray, it should be longer.

Incredible editing. Love the James Conrad rage monster inside joke

I love your videos. Thank you for all the great work. I have concerns about the current organizational structure of the PDGA. The process where the Chairman is appointed and subsequently selects three assistants to make decisions seems to lack sufficient democratic input. Could we consider an alternative structure, such as a representative board composed of 12 active players, elected through a confidential voting process? This would ensure a broader range of player perspectives are considered in the decision-making process. Also, on sensitive topics like the inclusion of transgender athletes in events, it's crucial that the governance reflects the views of the majority, as opposed to a small minority. The current system might not adequately balance these interests. A more representative board could address such issues with greater fairness and inclusivity.

Your outstanding choices in b-roll put this video in the top 10 funniest disc golf videos of all time. Wonderfully ironic, considering the subject. 😂

Love your videos! Cracking up over the video illustrations of the offenses 😂 Can you do a video about how earning money works in disc golf? What is taxed? Are athletes “self-employed”? I’m curious how all that works

grown adults throwing tantrums deserve time-outs

Best channel on UA-cam. I appreciate your calling balls and strikes here legally. It takes a lifetime to build a reputation, and a moment to lose one. I do get the ick when bro-ey hobby communities rally around one of their own when that person has clearly done something wrong. I'm not saying that Mr. Ray should be burned at the stake. But the rush to defend him makes the whole sport look like chintzy frisbee hour compared to other sports.

People seem to miss the fact that the money stopped belonging to the players the moment they hit the payment button. They had in fact exchanged it for good and services to be delivered at a date in the future. Also,, he owned and operated a business entity that was in the business of running tournaments and selling disc golf paraphernalia. That he used registration fees from one tournament to finance others and buying inventory to sell is just normal way to operate. Seriously, you don't expect your favourite airline to only use what you paid them to operate the airplane you are sitting in while you are sitting in it?

Finally, a good take on this topic. This financial practice is COMMON in the industry. For an Independent Contractor, registration fees are income. Income can be allocated however it needs to be in order to continue day to day operations, provided the buyers receive the products they paid for. I don't think JRay should get off freely, but I don't he's a criminal by any means. He's embarrassed, and upset, that he couldn't continue his day to day operations. All business owners would feel this way in the same position. He deserves grace, because he's going himself up more than anyone else will.

Wait. So if someone bails you out its suddenly not a crime?

The PDGA should also look into changing its rules on tournament funds and how / where they can be spent. The fact that a tournament director can effectively use all of the registration money on what ever they want seems to be a bad plan. I think its okay to take profit, but that should be after the tournament is complete and payouts have been made. at least this way the money for the tournament would legally be there and if a new TD is needed, it can be an easy switch. I agree that the PDGA is limited to what it can do currently if the tournament was actually cancelled, but that should change moving forward by adding new rules and regulations to protect players.

Life is hard sometimes and this guy doesn’t appear to be trying to steal money just didn’t have things go his way. Glad this other company stepped up in a big way. Props to them!

Great video and I agree with your assessment.

Great breakdown, from a legal perspective. However, I have a feeling we’re only getting part of the story. I personally think the medical issues were stress/worry/anxiety related, due to losing the majority of that money from sports betting. New truck, new camper and then the gamble on 2024 being like 2023, from gambling success & event success. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I just wish those who trusted him at least got the full truth.

It's good to know that from a legal standpoint, nobody would be able to do anything about this. Now, if you excuse me, I've got to go set up some tournaments and book a flight to Cayman Island 😅

This dude just straight up stole from everyone and we're supposed to feel bad for him?! Nah what he did was scummy, he knew he was doing it the whole time it, wasn't some sudden mistake. He should be charged with stealing 27k just like he did, then once he pays it back then we can talk about forgiveness. He needs some form of punishment besides just not being able to run events

I think the biggest issue in the argument of misappropriation of funds has to do with using tournament fees for personal use rather than business. Certainly in business you make investments in one area to fund another quite often, but you don't mix business and personal expenses. That's where you get into trouble.

I disagree with you about the PDGA. The PDGA owns DiscGolfScene. If Bud Hill had not gone on as scheduled and enough players disputed their charge with their credit card company this would have become an issue for the PDGA. PayPal would have flagged DiscGolfScene and potentially suspended their agreement with DiscGolfScene. DiscGolfScene has a responsibility to underwrite the tournament directors who put events on their site. They do not do this currently.

Had the players not been able to recoup their funds would they have been able to band together to take him to small claims for that 27,000?