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Energy Collector mod is AMAZING, but it STILL doesn't COMPLETELY negate the MP loss (which with sprint is still a bit of an issue). I wanted to do an infinite sprint build, and while I've gotten SUPER close to it, working on the skill COST (I forget the mod name that does this at the cost of 20% skill power, but that's the one I've BEEN using) makes your attacks hit like a wet noodle (especially with the Maximize Range mod too). I'm not down with Bionic Fuel using my HP. Narcissism requires a LOT of other mods to mitigate the cooldown hit you take. MP Collector is great when you've got mobs around to hit, but leaves your regular traveling to still be a pain. Energy Collector + Selective Recovery MP (the other mod he showed at the beginning) MIGHT just do the trick though. If I could lower the cost with the one that lowers the skill COST by 15.2% and ups the range by 22% IIRC on the same mod, along with these two, then that would allow me to use the rest of my points to focus on hitting harder and increasing my survivability. I'm gonna have to try this out. Thanks.

She doesn't have MP.

It doesn't but it does buff orbs you pick up while doing it. You don't regen mana (even out of combat) with speed of light activated.

It’s great on Bunny, combining it alongside Maximize Conservation and you basically have infinite sprint

There are a couple of ways to achieve that. Bionic fuel let's you run infinitely but at the cost of hp instead of mp and also a slightly slower run speed. You can offset the loss of hp by using hp collector which has a guaranteed proc instead of mp collector. The other way is to use overwhelming shields which sets your hp to 1 and gives you extra shields in proportion to your hp. That build usually uses shield collector as that also has a guaranteed proc but shield collector can only be gained by combining mods and is a different build around altogether. I wouldn't suggest taking the overwhelming shields version to anything that uses poison or you're gonna have a bad time and you'll need decent defense to make your shield more durable.

@@TheBlackSage7 yeaive seen the 1hp mod and was like wth.. whod use that?! I bet it works in some builds which im unaware of since im new. But definitely too scary to use

@@Awesome-ct7vr run narcissism, run conversion or blue skill cost and run double mp nodules. You’ll never have a cost

I just slap in mp collector. Does the job 90% of the time. I recommend you to watch TheRealAsianRobot's bunny build videos (farming & bossing)

@@slayzet4293LOL HE SUCKS

He's just saying you get the money back that you've used, that's what he meant by it he understands it doesn't directly reduce the cost

Mana*

@@connorpurcell610 I realize that. But since there is something that actually does what he said it can be confusing to someone who doesn't know what he meant. They could take him at face value. Just trying to clarify

Won't this drop ur overall DPS??

You don't regen MP even out of combat if you have speed of light active. So you need to pick up orbs (energy collection can buff that pick up) or get kills (MP collector) or just spec into efficiency vs raw power or 4 damn crit mods (which overkill most everything that isn't a boss anyway).

not to advertise but i just posted a bunny build using this mod, its a must have tbh

well that people: alway thinking of bad thing first-and begin to adap all and all: this is a mini version of warframe- build what you think is good, fun, play with own pace hell i put all fire rate mod in my gun in warframe just for silly whole mag enemy head

You spent 400 hours grinding for one thing? And it’s not even detrimental?

@@ultimateshield3406 it’s actually really nice. I do this on my bunny for farming. I run narcissism & blue skill cost. Ontop of energy collection. This allows for me to have no mp cost so I can actually never lose mp on bunny. I was going to show that (hence the bunny at the end) but I didn’t want to dive too deep and make the video longer. Leave room for people to explore. But yes you’re correct. You’re right on track. There’s many skill cost modules that really make a difference with this

@@artemshenev7422 when you shoot you’re considered in combat not out of combat. When you get hit you’re considered red and it stops your mp regen for 3 seconds. If you get hit… skill issue, if you pick up an orb you still get a benefit from the one module investment. There’s not a better module to socket for mp than it. That’s what the video was about. Showcasing what it’s doing. In the video you see my mp stop during me showing the % from orb difference. It is common sense that you can’t regen mp while taking dmg. Things like that shouldn’t have to be said

For bossing

@@Asegard dude who said max mp wasn’t good or worth using along with this? There is no misinformation. I’m telling you exactly what it’s doing. Then I said in the end where it makes sense to use it instead of mp collector. It’s also in the thumbnail. And I’ve played every boss solo & group play. I’ve cleared gluttony over 100 times now. Max mp aint did shi for any character except for lepic & luna. Energy collector has allowed me more cast per run than anything else. I don’t get hit often, bc I read the bosses patterns. I never said you have to use both. I said to use one & I mentioned which one is better but if you want to use both it does make a difference. Max mp is never good enough alone if you can’t regen it. & maximize con is trash. Especially for Enzo. You lose all passive dmg. Again what good is any of this if you don’t regen it. For the content I run & how I play… I don’t get hit. I can’t get hit. I mechanic skip so there’s no downtime. Your build will only be able to pop a few skills until death or clear bc you ain’t regen’in no mp unless you completely stop firing & you’d lose dps. This is a reward for being good at the game while doing dps. Skill cost is only good on gley that’s it

he said mp regen ; mp recover when no orb around max mp: sure is you can cast alot of time, but if no orb around , you still use your gun,, not mention the buff enemy have mp leech, hp up and doom shield, they a true nightmare

you should just use both???? they both are on the sensor lol

Not even worth it for Yujin

@@TwoLiterSoda depends on build i think. Gluttony is easy with it so far.. but who knows what they Bring for new mods in Future or what coming season does with the season buffs.. because there is an Recovery category in it. Probally gets some Higher multiplier tonmaoe them more useable

ah yes not good on bunny, nice

@@andrewmarceau422 no. Max mp is more important

@@vallenvega when you shoot you’re considered in combat not out of combat. When you get hit you’re considered red and it stops your mp regen for 3 seconds. If you get hit… skill issue, if you pick up an orb you still get a benefit from the one module investment. There’s not a better module to socket for mp than it. That’s what the video was about. Showcasing what it’s doing

​@@z00ko what can shed any doubt and intuitively prove your point without having to explain things in the comment is to test the setup in the actual battlefield with actual enemies. getting hit is a fact of life in this game, so calling out skill issue on it doesn't carry the same weight as much as in other games lol. bunch of actual skill issue in this game are if you can't manage your resources, kept on dying needlessly, no situational awareness of what's going on during mission/intercept, etc2. and btw idc if I'm wrong, I just want to see if the setup is actually worth grinding for.

@@z00kogetting hit is not a skill issue you 🤡. the game literally has attacks you CANNOT dodge.

@@vallenvega for my viessa not worth, not enough base mp, now i have ~278, need good ex comps I guess... and it is a trouble

Nope if not enough base mp in excomps

Yes. MP collector is much better IMO.

It's more consistent than mp collector, since it cuts away rng. Yeah though, it's a steep ask, but for spam casting it's hard to beat. End of the day, your build, do what your comfortable with.

@@mr.g1672 you don’t need both. You need energy collection. I said this in the video.

@@TwoLiterSoda mp collector is trash in every compared to this. Orbs have a higher drop rate per mob killed than the chance you have of mp collector procing. Mp collect is capped at 12.2% at a 17% chance. Orbs give a bigger % boost so 3 mp collector procs is one orb. Ontop of that mp collector doesn’t boost passive mp regen. So mp collector will never be better than this. Most people don’t even realize how bad mp collector is. It’s actually the orbs that are giving you the mp regen most of the time bc mp collector has been and will always be trash

​@z00ko "trash" is a strong word but MP regeneration in and out of combat as well as energy collection is definitely slept on. Both require kills or some caveat to fuel your spam. Six of one, half a dozen of another. Similar argument for MP efficiency vs raw power of your hits in the bunny farming world.

And how is this better than mp collector? Other than bosses I don't see this being better.

@@Zabeltross welcome captain obvious here. Even in the title it says MP COST. Use your brain instead of trying to sound like you know more to something that was so obvious I didn’t even mention it. In what world did you think having a custom resource character would affect “MP” recovery. One with a brain would logically deduce that I was saying the only mp characters who don’t need this are lepic and luna. You didn’t even put “can” and “can’t” right I’m petty enough to heart the comment and pin it so everyone can see the type of people who make comments like this. Now I’m laughing at you😂😂💀 And how is it better than mp collector? Because orbs have a higher % chance of dropping from a mob that you killed and this buffs them to give you a much bigger boost to your mp % recovery per orb and mp collector has a set value of 12.2%. Ontop of it boosting passive mp regen. If you’d watch the video full through you’d have seen that. I even put timestamps for you short attention span clowns as well and you STILL COULDNT GET IT. 🤡

Cringe ​@@z00ko

Buuurrrnnnn

@@z00koI had the same reaction to reading their comment that’s hilarious

TBH, you DO NOT need MP C on bunny.

@@damousx6860 Depending on what I'm doing.I run both one or the other.And sometimes none at all at all

@@damousx6860 I've tested EC vs. MP C on Bunny extensively for speed running dungeons and MP C wins easily. For starters I don't want to go out of my way at all to pick up orbs. For a dungeon like Shelter (i.e. the catalyst farm I end up doing 5-10 times every day to keep them crafting endlessly), MP Collector clears average about 4m20s and EC clears are rougly 25 seconds slower. There's a bit of variance because the first event can screw you over by tons of ^ pickups and no ^^^ ones, but this is over the course of several days comparing the two. EC (by itself) will always be of questionable use on Bunny because using Speed of Light keeps you in combat the whole time you use it. The only way to get good regen from EC is to either pick up an orb or shut off SoL and wait to drop out of combat. Which actually is useful should you ever run completely out of MP in between enemy spawn locations but it's not massively faster than what the MP Rec OOC roll on my aux gives by itself, so I still can't really justify it over MP Collector. And my build doesn't allow for two X modules so I can't stack them both. Maybe I'll try that after season one drops and I can fiddle with the socket types without completely breaking other things.

I've tested this, and that doesn't ever seem to be the case, the mp recovery in combat with the boost didn't make a bigger difference with max mp, it made the same difference, meaning it's a set value, not off a %... there's a chance I could be wrong, but testing this with luna a character with 611 mp, and then testing it on her with 300 mp, and seeing no difference in the cost of a dps rotation, that should show some sort of result, even marginally, if there is a chance it does do that, it would have to have shown up, and it didn't.

The MP recovery that you get from your components is a flat amount for both in combat and out of combat, it is then boosted by MP recovery modifiers which are additive to each other.

Hp collector

@@StrongArmEntertainment Thats not so great on boss fights without many adds..i play Gley and i have to hold back a lot..i end up killing myself more than the boss does. I'm currently managing it with skill cost. There isn't much room to work with on a massacre build either 🥵

​@@kaukeyidk, I use hp collector for pub boss fights on my ult gley, works fine for getting that bit of extra health needed. And I just manage my health and damage output better than I would solo where I just spam it til the boss is dead. Rarely go down unless I'm just not paying attention. Maybe your components need more health and def??

@itsreapernecrosis2215 i believe i was at 20k health and 30k-ish defense. If you take the turtle boss for example you don't want to let up shooting rockets to intercept his fireballs

@@kaukey It's your best bet, HP is a must on Gley period