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Thanks for this video, I have a studio in Brazil with a C24 and this is so helpfull, many thing I didn't know it could do. Cheers

Its called convertion....I have an atmos system..you don;t have to "bounce" sound off the walls. My system still converts everything back to stereo....I don't understand your argument.

You really need to get Steinberg Cubase.

ATMOS might be the bees knees for theatrical audio, but I can't see how it is anything but snake oil for stereo music reproduction. The time delay nightmare of sound reflected off the ceiling seems impossible to correct. How can these systems possibly accommodate for the infinite number of unpredictable variables in the three dimensional geometry of rooms?

I'm so irritated by the guys who make videos like Neve vs API preamps but actually compare clones. Thank you for comparing the actual NEVE!

This is brilliant!! Remember the BOSE reflection speaker systems?? But I'm wondering if the whole ATMOS "scam" isn't really an "Immersive" experience, it's just an "expensive" one!! Your ears hear all around you, but music, well, you have ONE PAIR of ears. As in ONE PAIR of eyes, you can't see behind you head without moving or turning your head, as with music is best and only with the ONE PAIR of you ears. ATMOS dosen't make sense, unless you look at the reason behind it. These companies want to control us, not help us. Sit at home, never leave the listening room, and spend money, ordering everything... Sound is just vibration, while music is organized, creative vibration.

Music of Deadsoul Tribe holds a magical place in the memories of my youth. Both the lyrics and the sound were mesmerizing. More than ten years have passed since those days, but I still return to this music - "Just Like a Timepiece" sounds simply magical and really takes you far away from everyday life. Just today, I stumbled upon your channel, and I am very glad to see that you are active on social media, alive, and well. I wish you creative inspirations, tranquility, satisfaction, and peace of mind!

This is a really great controller. It is really ergonomic, and workflow fast. It is sad that AVID refuse to make it work natively with Silicon Macs ! A real Shame from AVID !

First class presentation as usual. Well worth the wait! Has given me a much clearer understanding of the C24. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this tutorial. Cheers!!

My concern is how long will the hui drivers work with the constant updates made to PT and computers.. will avid atleast make controller drivers for the C24

How does the C24 integrate with the most current version of PT????

I always loved the C24 however with some hardware going unsupported by Avid I thought it wasn’t a good investment for a small studio like mine. But always wanted a C24, nice piece of gear 😊

After years of lusting for one I picked one up for $500 a few months back, in near new condition, one of the later models sold, a revision M. I upgraded from PT11 to latest PT Studio 2024.3 as it still works on Windows with the latest native plugins. The integration is 2nd to none IMO. Neyrink V-Control lets me use it with other DAWs ,my primary DAW of choice is Nuendo and it's pretty good, better than an MCU with lots of configurable soft keys & the meter bridge & big counter work too which is really nice. Excellent video Devon

Binging your video at small paces while at work and gotta say: wish Avid never discontinued this unit in the first place. It’s amazing!!

i live in the attic 5x4 meter and 2.5 meters angled high room filled with 9.1 sistem . using music decoder from 2.0 audio to 9.1. but its hard eq~ed to sound good for music.

Yes, 1073 sounds slightly more cleae and open in highs. But my conclusion of the video is that anyone with a decent interface can make a record sound good if he knows what he is doing. You made a “cheap” interface sound close to a neve and that’s amazing.

This is a brilliant premise but I have an Audient and came to figure out if I need a neve (as title suggests) and this doesn’t help unfortunately- so wish you showed that at same time without rest of chain. Nice singing.

Is bae 1073 better than ams neve 1073

Thank you Devon for this brilliant guide! I followed the steps and now have a 3 card (2 core cards and an accel) PT HD 10 setup on 10.7.5 lion that I’m very happy with! Just out of interest would there be any other virtual instruments that you would recommend that are compatible? Many thanks.

I LOVE Pro Tools and I hate to spend 400$ each year to get it up to date. But I am damn fast on it. I could use Logic, Digital Performer, Cubase, Reaper, Studio One or Ableton Live and I would be happy, but not as fast. I still have my HD3 with I/Os somewhere in my basement, just in case, that I payed somewhat 20k $ and I can't sell for 700... And I now mix on my M1Pro laptop... If I had to choose a different one it would be Digital Performer.

You should try DMSD decouplers for your Speakers.

Hey, i know its a little off topic, but does anybody know why all the old Psychotic Waltz stuff got taken down from Spotify?

1 of my fave PW tracks!

I look at dolby Atmos, DTX, 360 audio in the same light as Quadraphonic Laser Discs, Mini Disc what is new today, is in the footnote in the electronic world tomorrow.,

Apparently these execs don’t have spouses? Mine refers to my tiny music work station as “sound henge”. Do you care what font a book is printed in? I assure you that there are people who care about this as much as we do about tone. I think it’s fare to say that 90% of the audience don’t share these preferences and won’t spend extra to satisfy them.

Sir, I hope you can find to listen to hip hop (atmos or not) and move away from this ill-informed view of it being gangsters threatening you... I offer you Mos Def, A Tribe Called Quest, Grand Puba, Kendrick Lamar... You may be surprised to find no threats aimed at you and when you listen you may even find musicality in a genre it appears you've written off. I appreciate your thoughts on atmos for music. I think it has its place but not in every genre.

Maybe it's just a scam in the pan, like 3D TV

The roots of tool

I listen to music in mono in my phone

waiting to see psychotic waltz live again! Love from Greece!

it boils down to filthy capitalism ruining music just for profits

It's a way to re-release existing Musical works which generates more royalties for the Licence holder of the Muscial works as well as the owner of the Masters in the case of independent Artists. As you pointed out THX and Surround sound came and went. Also Stereo recordings in a .wav file being lossless can be sold directly by the Artist. I can bounce out of Composition from Ableton Live 11.3.4, Reaper or BitWig Studio 5 or FL Studios get it mastered and sell direct off my site. Or go through Ditto Music. I did a Diploma of Electronic Music Production and Music Business and am mostly producing EDM, Deep House, Progressive House and DJ'ing. No club owner is going to lay out more money for ATMOS and the end users of the Music are unable to afford the cost to upgrade equipment either.

You should hear my proprietary system in just 4.0 it will stun you! 4.0 up through to 7.2 max if desired. DTS said my 4.0 was not That much better than their 12.2 lol. It converts any and all audio to true 3-D sit anywhere you want!

What someone will do is write an App that uses AI to make a mix automatically, which you can shovel out to Apple while you continue to work on great stereo mixes. Seriously, there are already plenty of people on Patreon who make AI that can break any song up into it’s stems. It shouldn’t be hard to write an APP that had a few standard Atmos mixes that it could create quickly.

I DO NOT DISAGREE about the gate keeping. That is very sad, indeed! I will actually hear your atmos mix fyi! Bouncy house speakers is not the way to implement atmos, number one. You need in on ceiling or in ceiling or at least on wall up high. For movies there are all kinds of sounds that come from places other than in front of you (on the screen). If a character is being chased, if waves are crashing, if flys are buzzing, if planes are flying over head, on and on it goes. It is sad that they are marketing these sound bars and gimmicky bouncy speakers as true Atmos as they just aren't. For music I think Atmos does a great job vs upmixing my stereo mixes to dolby (which I don't care for). It still keeps vocals centered and I actually love the ear candy. I run a no center system since I hate it when vocals are mixed to the center channel. I'd much rather hear phantom center from the two mains. Also, for music, things like decay or reverb can be added for those of us with dry room who only want to hear the decay/reverb that the engineer put into the mix. Regarding stereo. I love Stereo and don't upmix. If it's in stereo I listen in stereo but guess what, I still listen in that sweet spot whenever possible because I want that illusion of the singer dead center between my two mains. I also love the the affects of diffusion behind the listening position that can actually give the sense of surround sound. This is also done with phase in stereo mixes. I want to feel the envelopment of the music and movies. It helps me feel immersed in it. The more speakers you have the less one can determine the quality of those speakers (there have been studies done). I think this can be a good thing for the consumer. This means I can spend the most on my mains, a little less on my bed layers speakers and even less on my atmos speakers. Then my AVR can calculate their distances and also perform eq so each speaker has the same timbre. When done right you don't notice the speaker placements but you are just enveloped in the sound all around you. It's pretty incredible and has made me smile while watching or listening many times. Again, I do not disagree about the gate keeping. That is very sad, indeed! I love good stereo mixes and sometimes have to check my AVR because i can't tell if it's atmos or just two channel stereo.

You are an amazing singer by the way....

I think a more fair comparison would have been all hardware: Audient pre > EQ > LA2A > 1176 vs Neve ch strip > LA2A > 1176. Anyhow, good vid.

Many artist do atmos mixes to simulate the standard stereo mix, thus getting both to sound the same.

*THANK YOU,* _so, much!_ Subbed.

Analyse très interessante et pertinente mon ami Very interesting and relevant analysis my friend

It only suitable in a theatre or cinema.

interesting story yeah

Hello..........Great video....i'm very interested in PTHD 8, i have core & accel pci-e tdm HD cards. I'm not very interested in constant upgrades etc..Hardest thing for me is finding a legit copy of PTHD 8......Can someone help me ???

A music format that can only be listened to in a home theater is ridiculous!

Excellent vid ❤

The thing I like about Atmos when listening on Apple Music via music earbuds is the wider sound stage. Most songs are mixed well and it sounds pretty good. But it’s not Atmos per se. It’s the sound stage. But guess what? When I listen to music mixed in stereo on my HK receiver in Logic7, even with just two speakers, that decades old dsp gives me the same wider sound stage I like! I’d like to see more accessible dsps! If Atmos is one of those. So be it. But stereo dsps are welcome also. The pro gate keeping is very bothersome.

I’ve been watching tons of videos of Dolby atmos because I want to start what I’ve been procrastinating for a long time. Glad I started because I just realized you can use headphone and reception to mixing atmos with binaural monitoring without having to buy a big speaker set up for a start. But I’ll start by addressing this. “Never leave a stone unturned”. Learning and mixing Dolby Atmos is the way of the future and let the innovative thrive. I’m Nigerian and I remember like bout 10-15 years ago. When I still used to live with my parents there were this sound systems called “home theater” sure you probably know that by now. Was like a 5.1 set up with 4 standing speaker set up and a center speaker and lastly a sub. Now this tech got outdated because most sounds were not designed in 3D then. Now we leave in an age that anything mixed in atmos can be converted to binaural for headphones to get the experience and then turned to perceived atmos when you decide to chill in your living room while listening to music. The ones who call themselves engineers without learning and keeping your knowledge for the future when the market gets saturated with portable devices that can play back atmos with ease will be the ones that misses out on a promising market to gain on. This was the same type of doubt that came when AR and VR started coming out. When AR and VR now have applications in education and entertainment. Only a fool(sorry to say this) Will read this and still say it’s a waste of time If you’re young and you tell yourself that then you are…🤦🏾‍♂️

Why no just submit your stereo mix in the ATMOS codec/format? Say its your artistic decision to keep all the extra channels silent.

I'm in FULL agreement! This definitely is gatekeeping by the big studios and big distributors to keep out the little guys and try to take us back to the "bad old days" (good for THEM). JUST SAY NO TO ATMOS! I promise you--as a consumer, I will NEVER buy Atmos equipment. I have a 5.1 system--for movies. I still listen to my music in stereo, and it's all I want or need. I am not in the music business, but I care about music, and about it being open to everyone in every phase of production. This is gentrification on an industrial scale; it pisses me off, and I HATE it. It will only lead to less diversity in music, more elitism in music, and to underpaid musicians having to beg for the attention of studios. It's bad for consumers, terrible for artists, and devastating for small studios. This is music for the 1%, and as far as I'm concerned they can go to Hell.

Licensing and guaranteed income from fees. All to keep up the stock price for the big-wigs. Everyone is going to subscriptions. I quit doing business with all sorts of companies (personally and professionally) that require subscriptions. Don't do it. Fight the man!