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I think the key difference on climbs vs descents is it's a tactic that works IRL for one but not the other. For descents you will see riders sprint out of corners, pedal on flatter bits and then try and get as aero as possible on the steep bits (RIP super truck 😂 ). On climbs the issue is that switching between pedaling and not pedalling would make you slower IRL. If it's steep enough you might even fall over if you stop long enough. That's the key distinction I make, but it's not set in stone and everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. Also true sticky watts happens on certain trainers and my trainer wasn't sticking (like I stopped pedalling and the power stopped half a second later)

That's a fair point the two numbers are similar. But to me there are two major difference: 1.) Your not racing (ill call it) as honestly as possible. I get others (probably not your or me) are probably racing below their actual weight, but i would rather just input my actual weight and accept that 2 second difference. Whereas the bike selection is a true time savings, you could get the same savings in real life by choosing different equipment. 2.) The 2 seconds saved is assuming you would also be able to hold the same watts. A lot of riders are capable of this after dropping only 1 pound. But as weight loss increases (dependent on the person/shape) watts may drop as well. For me personally, I have had a few climbing races were I overly focus on getting from 160 lbs (right near my optimal race weight) to 159 or 158 lbs, and end up cracking or performing a lot worse than i would have at 160. Basically, i view the downside risk as not worth saving 2 seconds.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork I don’t update my weight before every ride, but I probably update it once a week after a ride. I also know my weight can ebb and flow by a pound or more over a week; high after meals and refueling, low after a visit to the restroom, or after sweating out two pounds in a Zwift race. I wouldn’t describe those swings as weight loss or gain that affects power output. My weight hadn’t swung much over the last two years, but with the Zwift fitness I gained over this winter my watts have been rising and my weight has been trending down steadily since February. So for me it hasn’t been one or the other, the power gains have come hand in hand with weight loss.

Thanks! Glad to hear it's the best one yet

Thanks! Just keep riding, it will be unlocked before you know it

😂you would be setting a lot of PRs then!

Inb4 he’s already 50kg and will just be banished once he loses 50kg 💀

No worries! everybody has a different specialization, I know a couple A's that are barely a 6wkg 1 minute.

thanks mate! they typically take me about 25-30 hours all in, but are always on topics I just want to know more about myself so i dont mind 😀.

Thanks! I actually prefer climbing at a higher cadence, usually Ill do longer climbs around 90 rpm. However, the watts I needed seemed so difficult to find to keep up, so it felt like I kept needing to get out of the saddle with a lower cadence to be able to match the watts

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork yeah got that but those guys are seated and definitely at least 95. I suppose their cardio is very advanced

I guess that would be a good challenge to myself. Just see how I fair, staying seated with a higher rpm. Maybe I could hang on longer.

Yup just watching the replay ride away, wondering why can't I keep up 😂

I actually just had 2 LED video lights arrive. I bought them after I noticed there was a shadow on one side of my face in this video 😂.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetworkI think the microphone is more important. Good quality audio is one of the most important things.

Is the ask to look into something like the average TTT times between all men's and all women's teams? And maybe look at how speeds differ by category?

Not sure what is asked but for fun maybe make a test with a male rider vs female rider with the same height and weight, if there any difference in speed at the same power?

​Yes exactly, do it 😁plzzzzz, just for flat route, I'm sure female for 200w she got 50km/h,male 37km/h.

glad to hear you have been able to drop some weight and sounds like you have a plan for the last 5kg! it's always 1 type of food that gets everyone, for me it's sweets, if I have chocolate or donuts around the house I can't stop eating them! I hear your point on it not being marginal from your point of view and not only a cycling benefit but overall life benefit. it definitely isn't something that 1 plan works for everyone. My perception of it is probably influenced by my own history. I have had trouble in the past only eating salads or very light foods so I can drop an extra pound and it ends making me feel poor afterwords. part of it is that I'm pretty skinny to begin with though.

To your point, on Adz the only test i had to switch to my small ring was when riding at 100% difficulty.

I'm glad its not only me with the delay. I thought it may be poor connection, as i typically have about a 1 second delay. It does get annoying, especially on some of the hilly routes! I would think that it would be a fix that could be implemented as the game knows the routes you are on. Hopefully they can fix this (since it seems like people other than just myself experience it) in the future.

thanks for your feedback. Could your feedback also be in some part due to just personal preference on if its easier at 100%? I typically ride at 100% and when i set it to 0% initially it felt a bit alien to be, but i was able to adjust. I actually exclusively ride at 100% in races (except if im doing training, or for this purpose testing), but still found when testing it felt easier at less than 100%. At this setting was the only one i had to change from my big ring to small on Adz. To your point, in my test i didnt go so deep into the red that i would be able to effectively test the onset of muscular fatigue, but did point out that based on my experience ive always felt it is difficult to keep that consistent power when the gradient changes like on Adz hairpins. Cheers mate! always interested and willing to listen to different perspectives.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork I agree that it is a matter of personal preference as to whether or not riding at 100% feels easier, but that preference is determined mostly by the training status and anatomy of each rider. If you don't practice climbing very often then you won't be used to the way climbing uses your leg muscles (feeling "on" for a longer portion of the pedal stroke) and it will feel harder and give you sore legs more easily than doing the same effort on flat ground. That's only because you are exerting force on the pedals throughout a larger range of leg motion, and making slower, longer contractions with your muscles. (Which is the same reason why it's more efficient at maximal intensities). You make a good point that depending on the gearing of your bike, using a higher or lower trainer difficulty can feel harder or easier. With a lower trainer difficulty the resistance changes due to changes in gradient are reduced, resulting in a smoother feeling and more consistent power output, like you said. But if you have climbing gears on your bike and are used to riding at different cadences, this isn't an issue.

None of that makes sense. "Trainer Difficulty" simply adjusts the percentage of gradient one experiences while riding a given grade. 100% of a 15% grade will always be harder to ride than 50% of a 15% grade, regardless of effort/output. As stated in the video, and several other videos on this topic over the years, its the changes in gradient over undulating routes, and extended climbs, that introduces additional difficulty, as one has to manage more of their effort. Being able to just "lock in" to a steady power level, and stay there, is much easier than trying to maintain a constant effort over constantly changing gradients. As for downhills, physics, at least on this planet, dictate that that one will travel faster down a grade than only a fraction of the same grade...at least until they hit terminal velocity. There's a reason Zwifters hit the 100kph badge down the steeper grades than others.

its definitely worth playing with the setting! you may find its more enjoyable at a higher or lower TD.

Thanks for the tip! watching and editing the video myself i realized my eye line needed to be different.

How often do you get dropped on the downhills? In the tests that i did, I wasn't able to recreate spinning out with my current setup. However, I do know I've had a few races in which i was dropped on the downhill due to this reason. Its for sure painful to get dropped on the descents after working so hard on the climbs lol.

@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork most ttt's hahaha, I then have to put in a massive effort of 9-10wkg to get back to my team, which would be impossible on a high TD. If it gets implemented, then I'll suck it up but light riders are already penalized enough in this game

Haha i can only imagine having to put out a 9wkg effort when your probably already tired. Never fun having to deal with that.

But isn't that how physics works in real life? Heavier riders descend faster with less effort? What about the heavier rider getting dropped by you going "uphill" that's also putting out 300W?

Thanks! Any recommendations on mic/audio set ups?

It depends on your budget. Rode podmic or any condenser mic($30-$200) would be a big upgrade.

maybe ill check them out. sounds like i could just research "condenser mics" and it would lead me in the right direction!

They do allow lower TD, but they often do not allow non smart trainers

@@dmitry.gashko In my events I require a power meter (using hardware enforcement so zPower can't join at all). That doesn't require that a trainer be paired as controllable, just that there's some kind of power meter paired. That "power meter" could be a $300 Bluetooth spin bike. My understanding is it excludes a few other power measurement devices like Elite Misuro B+ that are treated as zPower. If there are other options I don't know about, I'd certainly consider adding them.

On camera is good, but look at the camera when talking, not at your own image or script. It feels like you aren't talking to the viewer and defeats the point of being on camera. If you have to read a script, which is fine, move the camera so it's at least at the same height and looks more like you are looking at us

thanks for the valuable insight. Its helpful to hear how others view it, and pointing out it kind of defeats the purpose of trying to speak directly to the viewer. I did notice that same point as well, I'm currently working on another video, and focused on improving the eye contact. I think it will be a noticeable improvement compared to this one.

Put googly eyes by the camera Lens to retain your focus

Once you reach the top 5% or so i would agree that lighter riders become more advantaged and the top ranked riders are in fact on the lighter side, as there is a limit to how many raw watts humans are capable of. However, the perspective i was coming from is about the average rider. The majority are in the C, and B cats and often racing in these Cats almost feels completely different than competing at a level of the Zwift Grand Prix riders.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork Well, not being able to be top 5% in a game you participate, celebrate and pay for is quite a big disadvantage, right? Zwift could easily set up the game so that heavier riders would not be excluded from the top. But that is not made. Them trying to mirror outdoor cycling, which makes the same exclusion to heavier riders, seems more important than including the heavier riders in the game. Having to be light to be able to compete for the top spots is undoubtedly a huge advantage to light riders. Also since light riders are advantaged in this respect, heavier riders can e.g. steal Ranking Points from lighter riders in flat races, giving heavier riders better ranks. Had Zwift not advantaged lighter riders, the lighter riders could also steal ranking points from heavier riders on steeper climbs - but the heavier riders are excluded in Zwift by how Zwift makes it impossible for heavier riders to make it to the top = a disadvantage. I think this aspect is an important complement to your statement that lighter riders are disadvantaged in Zwift, hence I added the comment. I understand that you take things from a more narrow perspective, but I think your statement, which is quite generally stated, is not valid over the line. I would trade the current disadvantageous system any day for a system that did not exclude heavier riders from taking part in the game and having a chance to reach top positions.

I personally create my own and import them to Zwift. But i think if you want to use a pre-made VO2 max workout on Zwift, I would try and find ones that are simple to start with. To me VO2 max is as simple as picking an interval length, rest period between, and how many blocks you want to do. One's such as the 6x2 VO2 max or 40/20's are good starting points. You can always edit the pre-made ones to have extra/or less intervals per block. For example the 40/20s #1 workout only has 4 intervals per block, but dependent on how strong you are you could increase it to 6 or 8 per block.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork Thanks for you tips and advice. Relative new to workouts and dedicated VO2 max training so creating one is a little step too far (yet). So any good advice on some pre-made workout help to understand the idea :) Will definitely do the ones you advices!! The ones you showed in the video look fun ;-) Btw nice channel!

thanks! you gave me a good idea! maybe in the future ill work on setting up like a google drives that has the files for some pre-made workouts (they are set as a % of FTP so should adjust). But for pre-made zwift ones i would try out the "VO2 Max 3x3", "VO2 Max - 4x4 (40/20)" or "40/20's #1", these three are pretty straight forward and not overly difficult if your newer. It also provides a mix of SI and LI. As you become more and more comfortable with them you can try the "6x2 VO2 Max" or "Breakfast Returns". These are a bit harder and longer. Feel free to post a comment if you try any of them and let me know if they felt to easy/hard.

Pretty solid if you can increase to 60. How is the garmin? I was actually thinking of getting one of the watches that estimate VO2 max myself.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork on my Garmin Venu watch, my Vo2 reading is quite a bit lower because it's only tracking my hikes and walks. My Garmin Edge tracks my cycling Vo2. If I ran and did proper training on my 2 left feet, I'd probably get my non-cycling Vo2 up as well. I know there is only one Vo2, but Garmin does split it into two 😐

That’s depends I think in how unfit you are to start with when over 50.

I would agree its probably a lot harder the older you are, as it takes more effort to find the right mix of training and resting, but not impossible to improve. One inspiring story i found while putting together this video was about Robert Marchand, he apparently set the world hour record for his age group and during his training increased his VO2 max by 13%, his first test was at the age of 101 and the increase was when he was 103!

however, you can still improve performance after 50. performance is more measurable and useful.

@@ZwiftAnalysisNetwork I seen that too. I had a quintuple heart bypass and took a KOM in my first ETAPE 11 months later and 20kg lighter. Still pushing hard. Hence my comment about where you start makes a difference.😂😂I’m 55.

That has to be tough recovering from that. Impressive to be able to come back and take KOMs though!