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Reverse Trains: A Cursed Optimization -Factorio 2.0
Think different. Think ~backwards~.
I have since tested fluid wagons and the performance seems identical to item wagons. I'll share the blueprint for the "race track" test course just as soon as I figure out how to do that. I can even upgrade it with an automatic lap time calculator which I totally should have made before I started.
00:00 What?
00:14 Why?
01:14 Why not?
02:16 Test 1
02:44 Test results for each fuel type
04:58 Test 2
05:10 Ore throughput test results
06:26 Artillery wagons are the exception
07:05 I think I squeaked a C in high school applied algebra
08:08 But wait, they can actually be FASTER than normal trains
09:12 The takeaway
09:42 Justice
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @-YELDAH
    @-YELDAH 22 години тому

    You changed the outcome by measuring it!

  • @koofendorfin5871
    @koofendorfin5871 23 години тому

    Does anyone have a blueprint to the train station at the beginning of the video?

  • @anomonyous
    @anomonyous День тому

    All I know is that they fk with my piping on space platforms, regardless of whether they're actually connected or not. Mixing blue and red. And it's very annoying.

  • @susq_345
    @susq_345 День тому

    speaking of cursed... do locomotives still have the lowest drag coefficient when they're facing backwards?

  • @stefanklass6763
    @stefanklass6763 День тому

    I do use 3-8 trains together with double headed [ ][ ][ ]<<<>[ ][ ][ ] Both have exactly the sam acceleration for my signalless project

  • @kahlzun
    @kahlzun День тому

    Aren't push trains a irl thing?

  • @nickschaus7785
    @nickschaus7785 День тому

    I have a space ship dedicated to making legendary circuits and on it I have a massive amount of space dedicated to weaving pipes of all the required liquids(steam, water, heavy oil, light oil, petroleum) so this is ridiculously helpful!

  • @zacharys8141
    @zacharys8141 День тому

    I will now use 1-2-1 trains with the middle cars being locomotives

  • @bigguy2016
    @bigguy2016 День тому

    you forgot to measure it when they’re running on spoilage

  • @orangeman4845
    @orangeman4845 День тому

    The answer is yes, because that's the only gun I used 😩

  • @LddStyx
    @LddStyx День тому

    Think of them as minecarts that are pushed around and they are beautiful again.

  • @swgman
    @swgman День тому

    I am not doing shit on gleba, it's so buns and just annoying and not fun

  • @PsyhoBelka
    @PsyhoBelka День тому

    the more shoking not the result, but fact that train has drag...

  • @Ender_Consolidated
    @Ender_Consolidated День тому

    Wube, fix this right now.

  • @BORN753
    @BORN753 День тому

    Wait, this is such a simple idea, I am fascinated I never ever thought of this.

  • @Dancyspartan
    @Dancyspartan День тому

    Delete this video. The council sees all.

  • @CJfoks
    @CJfoks День тому

    How do You make lap and lap time counters ?

  • @bottlekruiser
    @bottlekruiser День тому

    @9:00 w8 what do you mean most people don't rocket fuel their trains

  • @pindab0ter
    @pindab0ter День тому

    The algorithm recommended this video to me and I love it. You’re thorough, have a great voice and are exploring something fun while not making the video longer than necessary. Subscribed.

  • @hagenisse
    @hagenisse День тому

    Hey, I wanted to thank you for the comprehensive guide. While I found a lot of other guides helpful, yours was overall my favourite reference. I'll say one thing though, and that's I rather preferred Mechan's advice with simply running silent and boosting in through the caustic cloud.

  • @honk_tm
    @honk_tm День тому

    What the hell?? Its so simple, why didn't i think of this??

  • @quilusy7503
    @quilusy7503 День тому

    "Traditional 3 wagon trains" may be the most cursed things about this video.

  • @Templarfreak
    @Templarfreak День тому

    while sure maybe it's slower, i dont necessarily agree that it's not that much different in difficulty. it's a little bit of circuitry, but overall the pipes are a lot simpler to understand and follow since... well there isnt a cacophony of undergrounds going everywhere, crossing over each other, taking up huge amounts of space, and needing to underground in various places to not cross over pipes... because this deliberately wants to cross over pipes lol. and once you have the mechanism in place to actually "soup" your pipe, there isn't much more to understand. "oh, this fluid is going through the pipe now. now that one." not that bad tbh

  • @KevinMarquette
    @KevinMarquette День тому

    I love these types of deep analysis of game mechanics and clever tricks.

  • @DavidSmith-cr7mb
    @DavidSmith-cr7mb День тому

    this game is amazing. its so unique you can optimise in ways you didnt know you could.... thanks mate!!! pretty sweet!

  • @844SteamFan
    @844SteamFan День тому

    imo the freight cars look more aerodynamic than the locomotives lol Also, iirc streamlining isn’t really effective until speeds somewhere past 100 mph (for example, look at the UP FEF-3s that were designed to operate up to 120 mph, though it isn’t known if they ever did get up to that speed), though idk how fast Factorio trains are.

  • @unistrut
    @unistrut День тому

    If you want to be truly horrified look up how they use pipelines in reality. It's called "batching" and they just start sending the new product down the pipe and use careful timing to divert it into the right storage tanks on the receiving end.

  • @speedstyle.
    @speedstyle. День тому

    I did this to make a tiling design with 1-4 stations slightly narrower, giving better roboport and pylon efficiency. Didn't think about the air resistance but I don't think fuel efficiency really changes my mind

  • @princedest1ny
    @princedest1ny День тому

    How bout a train with a locomotive sandwiched between cargo wagons?

  • @smc4229
    @smc4229 День тому

    Oh but i hate it _so much_

  • @nokdu.99
    @nokdu.99 2 дні тому

    I started using these when I had to fit stations into a single chunk for ribbon maze addon.

  • @MattWyndham
    @MattWyndham 2 дні тому

    Remember, 666 is just 2/3 of 1000

  • @wzdew
    @wzdew 2 дні тому

    Very cool video. Thanks for the science! Does atmospheric drag change based on the planet? I could definitely see this setup being used on Fulgora where fuel efficiency is unimportant and compact load/unloading stations are a must.

  • @kuhluhOG
    @kuhluhOG 2 дні тому

    While going outside, you can also just let yourself be hit by the wave. Sure, you get damaged, but it should be easily survivable (if you aren't majorly damaged). This throws you pretty much completely through the minefield in pretty much an instant. And while we are at it, if you go into silent running while the wave passes through you, you won't gain heat from it (just your normal silent running heat gain).

  • @mrkv4k
    @mrkv4k 2 дні тому

    In my vanila playtrough, I had a 64 wagon train for coal. It was 32 wagons in front, then 8 locomotives and then 32 wagons behind. The loading station was U shaped and those locomotives fit in the bend.

  • @emdeo
    @emdeo 2 дні тому

    thanks, I hate it.

  • @MiraLeaps
    @MiraLeaps 2 дні тому

    I can feel Dosh either getting absolutely excited or completely terrified already

  • @Diogenerate
    @Diogenerate 2 дні тому

    thanks I wil be sure to cite this in my manifesto

  • @joejane9977
    @joejane9977 2 дні тому

    what was fluid wagon data was great thank you

  • @triusmalarky290
    @triusmalarky290 2 дні тому

    okay but what if you did wagon-locomotive-wagon-wagon is that just silly? or could it change something slightly

  • @Wisiro819
    @Wisiro819 2 дні тому

    I'd call these Shopping Cart Trains

  • @DzejSiDi
    @DzejSiDi 2 дні тому

    Thanks, I hate it.

  • @joykillz7431
    @joykillz7431 2 дні тому

    Have you informed Dosh doshington? would he enjoy it?

  • @highdefinist9697
    @highdefinist9697 2 дні тому

    So, legendary nuclear fuel (and possibly legendary rocket fuel as well) might actually be *faster* with reverse trains, since they can (probably) accelerate faster than decelerate. So, additional air resistance will decrease the time it takes to break more than it will increase the time to accelerate.

  • @ukaszrzasa9685
    @ukaszrzasa9685 2 дні тому

    This is HUGE! THANKS!

  • @demondkiller666
    @demondkiller666 2 дні тому

    I love that i find this AFTER spending hours on a railway book...

  • @Erichteia
    @Erichteia 2 дні тому

    I unironically used this design on Fulgora because I did not leave enough space to upgrade to the better coal liquefaction

  • @Jackpkmn
    @Jackpkmn 2 дні тому

    Double headed trains, but with the locomotives facing the cargo wagons in the middle.

    • @AaroLyali
      @AaroLyali 2 дні тому

      I've actually run a base using 12-6-6-12 trains before. Wrapped the locomotives around the u-turn in the station and loaded on 2 tracks

    • @GameCyborgCh
      @GameCyborgCh День тому

      @@AaroLyali that's hilarious

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e День тому

      You mean double butted trains.

  • @linamishima
    @linamishima 2 дні тому

    It would be interesting to see how the performance difference is affected by congested networks and as the typical block size tends towards the length of trains. My gut is that, as ability to stop becomes the limiting factor for train speed and keeping blocks unreserved, this will further favour the wagon-first design

  • @SQUID_KID102
    @SQUID_KID102 2 дні тому

    2:50 in the top right coner is a joke