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although i wanted this to be true, but one big flaw about this is that, the blue light can simply just be an effect for normal human characters by design, for both enemies and and allies , and green lights is for everything/everyone else that isn't human or in the normal human size form. that explains why edea, raijin and fujin also have blue lights as enemy. UNLESS you can find examples that show non human size characters showing blue lights or human characters using JUST green lights. otherwise i can't agree with your hypothesis. thank you for providing some new insights to this game after like.. 25 years. . but i think this hypothesis might be reaching.

What I think the game's ending means: TL;DR - Rinoa needs to die in space alone. Once she dies, Ultimecia dies with her. After defeating Ultimecia, Squall and his friends are separated. Squall believes that he can return to them if he calls out to them. However, he realizes that this is no longer possible and succumbs to his greatest fear - being abandoned and alone. When he sees the white feather falling from the sky, he is reminded of the promise he made to Rinoa. Rinoa is his way back; without her, he is lost at the end of time. Final Fantasy VIII's plot is a time loop/paradox. Recall that Squall gives Edea the idea to build SeeD and Garden when he ended up in the past. His past self, "young Squall," would later grow up to take part in the events of the game (Squall defeats Edea, Edea transfers her power to Rinoa, Rinoa frees Adel in space, Squall rescues Rinoa and defeats future Ultimecia, Ultimecia transfers her power to Matron, young Squall is raised by Matron and grows up to defeat Edea, etc.). This loop will continue forever, because young Squall does not have the benefit of knowledge or hindsight as the Squall trapped at the end of the paradox. He cannot go back in time to alter his decisions because he does not belong in that timeline (Matron: "Please return. You do not belong here.") The bizarre replays of Rinoa walking in the ending: Squall begins to see replays of when he first met Rinoa at the banquet in Balamb Garden; this is where the loop begins. Once he meets her at the party, the game's events will take place; you see them replay over and over (you see shots of Rinoa at the party being in frame, then wiped away - as if she is absent). Squall comes to realize that he is forever locked in an eternal battle with Ultimecia, and in this loop, Ultimecia can never truly die. Recall that the only way to truly ensure a sorceress is forever vanquished is for the sorceress to die with her powers. Ultimecia is NOT Rinoa, but their deaths are intertwined, and are also consequently what will end up saving the rest of the world. No matter what kind of action Squall takes in the game in an effort to save Rinoa, it will always end in the same result: replaying the time loop. In order to break this time loop, Squall must let Rinoa die in space alone (her life support runs out and her helmet shatters). If Squall decides not to save her after the destruction of the Moon Base, Rinoa dies with Ultimecia's powers in the vast emptiness of space, unable to transfer them to anyone, thus ending Ultimecia's existence. Squall can then return to the planet to defeat Seifer and a weakened Adel (who needed Rinoa's sorceress powers in order to become strong again), and will never have to experience time compression to rush into the future to defeat Ultimecia because she no longer exists - thus saving the world. Squall realizes this (if you recall him crying in the finale); in order to fully destroy Ultimecia, he must sacrifice the only person he truly loves - Rinoa. He must live the remainder of his life alone, broken, and grieving - knowing he abandoned Rinoa to die. The rest of the world will move on, celebrating the end of the succession of witches.

Great job with this video. You may have already mentioned it but wanted to ask this: during the opening when you can see Edea and Rinoa in the white room “starting room” it appears that Rinoa already wears the ring, if that is definitely a different moment that the one in the game it would explain why see is wearing the ring that at that point in time she should not even know about the existence right? Also big appraisal for the “dead end” mention, as I remember I mentioned it as well on a Squall is dead video in the comments, which probably works best for this hypothesis. Keep the great work!

I dont care about what the director said ... this is rinoa

Pretty solid theory! My headcanon, or rewrite, is that Ultimecia is Squall and Rinoa's daughter who inherited Rinoa's sorceress powers when she passed away later in life. How she would know about Griever is that Rinoa would make up bedtime stories for her as a child to ease her worry over Squall being away all the time. Griever would, essentially, just be Squall anthropomorphized. Through those subconscious memories, she can conjure Griever. Griever, still being a GF, (and later her only companion) still had the amnesia effect on her causing her to forget many things from her past - like her desire to use time compression not to destroy and merge all time together, but to be reunited with her parents. But due to the side effect of summoning Griever in her lonliness, she forgotten about her original plans to be reunited with Squall and Rinoa and was left with only anger and frustration that turned into malice for all things. It's admittedly a little dicey of a theory/ rewrite with room for plotholes, but I like it overall. I think it's even more tragic than Rinoa simply turning evil later.

top content and great attention to detail. FF8 needs a Remake so badly, i really hope after 9 which is basically confirmed via leaks we get a 8 remake

Hyne is the true ennemy of ff 8

didn't the director confirmed this thesis false?

She is still Seifers sloppy seconds. Can be seen in Squalls flashback.

I heard this answer to mean "we didn't intend it but it sounds great and if that is what people want to believe then that is great!" Obviously playing it in English is not the same, but I remember when I did play it it felt obscure how much time had been between rinoa and ultimacia, both in the context of compressed time travel and history. I assumed at the time that they were merely an ancestor, perhaps even a daughter or granddaughter as I wondered if they were modelled to look familiar. I always disliked that ultimacia was not more fleshed out as a character in terms of origins, background, but a few FF games have this late character introduction of the "person behind the scenes" feel. Seeing your videos and theories have created a new fond interest in the deepness of the story of VIII and appreciation of the work done to produce it. If only we had a VIII-2 !

I used to have a mixed opinion of VIII, I hated the childishness of the characters (who are literally children swinging swords around) but it really grew on me. I went to the trouble of playing both the 3D version of III which I really struggled with, and the pixel remaster that I found a lot easier to enjoy (especially with auto battle, don't hate me !) and I found I enjoyed it a lot more and had a lot more fun with it. I used to hate starting up III but now I'm a lot more open to it, just like VIII was for me before.

I work in entertainment and closely with people who write scripts. When you get a lot of people involved and revisions, you end up losing payoffs for setups, think of it as plot holes. There are pieces of older versions of scripts that get left in. There may have been every intention of revealing that Rinoa was Ultimecia in the end but it wasn't able to be pulled off for whatever reason. All the "evidence" was left in the story because so much work had already been done so they gloss over it.

Here is my theory taken from the montage at the end. Squall is stuck in a paradox where his alternate self is destined to fight Ultimecia forever (everything is replaying; him meeting Rinoa at the party, etc.) In order to break this paradox, Squall must not rescue Rinoa in space, and instead let her die in space. Ultimecia’s powers will die with her. Squall realizes this and a tear falls from his eye, as his worst fear of being truly alone is realized. If Rinoa dies in space, Ultimecia will not be able to reincarnate and transfer her powers back to Edea to retrigger the paradox. Adel is defeated, and no time compression.

Where are the rest of final fantasy 8 cast because Zell wasn't there and laguna or the powerful witch they beat to save the world

Live action cast!! Very nice and interesting choices. Just don't let Gackt watch this video. here's my live action cast: Squall = Takeru Satō Rinoa = Yuriko Yoshitaka Selphie = Aoi Miyazaki Irvine = Mario Maurer Ellone = Zhou Dongyu Edea = Monica Bellucci Seifer = Alexander Sakarsgård Quistis = Elena Satine Kiros = I agree, Michael Jackson

Immediately knew Kiros But no to Quistis and seifer

Camille Belle looks more like Rinoa during her younger days...

He is indeed an honest person. Its good that he left it open to interpretation.

Its a very comfy game.

one from Nomura and Nojima should work with yoshihiro togashi to be one of the successor of HxH since they have the same level of brilliant minds. by that, HxH will definitely be in good hands :)

To me it's the uncertainty that makes it so intriguing. It might very well be a situation like Yoshiaki Koizumi and Link's Awakening, where one developer (in this case definitely Nomura) thought of a cool story idea and implemented it unbeknownst to the other developers. Because to be honest, the theory really sounds like Nomura already, and it's funny that they mention him in this video specifically Edit: Also your videos on the topic are absolutely amazing. FFVIII is by far my favorite game to theorize about

I wonder what he thinks about the arguments behind the theory. It would be nice to see how this gets explicitly incorporated into the tale, if they ever do anything with VIII again

>Nomura, Nojima & Kitase as script writer team >No mention whoever make the final draft >someone slip hidden message or possibly thematic ending (most typical japanese writer) >maybe Nojima or Nomura Most likely, Nomura Tetsuya Thus strengthen the trope "Don't Let Nomura Write the Script" before "Nomura is watching too many Netflix"

At this point they should respond to us with a ff8 sequel

Thank you :)

I hace never seen a video that sums up the story so effectivelly. I would not talk about flaws. Look at this way, Gasp beliefs on Cetra would not have change anything in the story. Anyway, great video!! Keep it up!

Great work! Personally, I don't like the idea of multiples timelines but I have to say that you made a point. Specially, it blowed my mind that images of Rinoa of the intro that are not taken from any part of the current game. I'm enjoying a lot your FFVIII videos, so thank you!

Do the Japanese fans discuss seifer at all? He was on the cover of the game and seemed like he would play a big part in the game but he kind of just disappears towards the end with no redemption. I would love to know more about seifer

Wow this was amazing…. Good job. The first time I’ve seen this theory, it is so well thought out! Imagine what kind of game final fantasy 8 could have been if it had enough time and resources to finish completely…. Thank you!

I wish it wasn't a robot voice. I couldn't make it 2 minutes...sorry.

It was an overly ambitious project that had it's budget slashed half way through. The developers stitched together what they had best they could. That's probably why the source code is missing. They don't want people to know what was cut from the original production.

dude, before watching your videos, ive already admired ff8 since the first time i played it, but its for gameplay reason. the story didnt really give me much impact other than the gimmick of squall/laguna timeline and they are being father and son. other than that, i understand nothing about the story. your explanation makes everything makes sense. i guess this shows that the problem with ff8 is, while it has great story behind it, the execution is lacking. this makes ff8 got forgotten easily by majority of people. if only the dev put this much effort in showing the details in the story that could link everything in place like what you did, i believe it would be a memorable jrpg experience. ff8 IS indeed underrated

I think the blue light are for humanoid characters and the green light for enemy & monsters characters

All these years and this is closest thing to a complete story I have ever heard. Truley….from bottom of my heart, well done. This game runs deeper than it seems,s, deeper than any final fantasy game. I just wish square would acknowledge its existence and do a remake not skip over it for ff9 which no where near as complex

I got CHILLS! Maye a tear or two...

very good video, enjoyed every second

Bullshit, the producer himself denied this fallacy years ago

It's my favorite FF from his release, and every time I have new reasons for it. Dude, I'm almost crying.

Thanks for the breakdown. Your videos are really good. You deserve a lot more views.

I think a reupload even with the robot voice would be pretty good. I personally don't mind reading and I do miss when a lot of theory videos used text so you could read along instead of having it spoken to you. It's what I enjoyed so much about the old PythonSelkan MGS theory videos. I feel like the no commentary and text only gives it a feeling of mystery. I enjoy it!

FF8 deserves a remake more than any other game in the series. There was so much unfinished and unexplored due to the rushed release of the game.