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Has The Switch To kWh Billing Made DC Fast Charging More Expensive?
Has The Switch To kWh Billing Made DC Fast Charging More Expensive?
Many fast charger operators like Electrify Canada have recently switched from time based to usage (kWh) based billing and many EV owners have seen a substantial increase of how much they pay when they DC fast charge their electric car.
Today I travel to an Electrify Canada location in Red Deer, Alberta (powered by new BTC Power charging hardware) where I test the costs associated with charging my Kia Soul EV Limited using kWh billing as compared to the old time based model.
As you can probably guess there is a price increase, but how much more expensive is DC fast charging an electric vehicle today? Watch the video to find out!
0:00 - Intro
0:54 - Electrify Canada Charging Session
6:51 - Summary and Conclusion
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Tesla Model 3 WINTER Ski Road Trip To See If EVs Suck In Cold Weather
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Tesla Model 3 WINTER Ski Road Trip To See If EVs Suck In Cold Weather Everyone keeps talking about how terrible electric cars (or EVs if you like) are during the colder months of the year. I happen to live in one of the colder parts of Canada, so I am always up for a cold weather road trip to see if these claims are true. Testing electric vehicles in colder climates is always interesting. We to...
How Far Can An Electric Car Drive In -35°C Extreme Winter Conditions?
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How Far Can An Electric Car Drive In -35°C Extreme Winter Conditions? We have all heard this before: an EV can't drive far in extremely cold temperatures...an EV can't charge its battery when it's cold outside...public EV fast chargers don't work during the winter. The idea that electric vehicles in cold climates don't work has been circulating on social media forever. This video will prove tha...
Is The Tesla MAGIC DOCK A Glimpse Into Our NACS Charging Future?
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Is The Tesla MAGIC DOCK A Glimpse Into Our NACS Charging Future? One of the Tesla Superchargers near me recently got outfitted with the Tesla Magic Dock which allows any EV to charge there using the provided Magic Dock CCS adapter. When the news hit, I decided that I needed to do a test charge on the new Magic Dock CCS enabled Tesla Supercharger. So one day, my son and I, did the trek down to C...
How HARD Is It To Charge An Electric Car For The First Time?
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How HARD Is It To Charge An Electric Car For The First Time? There are lots of articles, posts and comments floating around online about how hard it is to charge and electric vehicle (EV) and for many first time owners it can be quite the headache. So today I took my wife, who has driven an electric car for a few years now but never actually charged it start to finish, to try it and see hot har...
There Are Many GREAT Road Trip EVs But The Tesla Model Y Is The BEST
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There Are Many GREAT Road Trip EVs But The Tesla Model Y Is The BEST This is the third and final day of our camping road trip to Jasper National Park in Alberta, Canada driving the Tesla Model Y Long Range (which we rented from Hertz) as well as our Kia Soul EV Limited (however, the Kia had to return home one day early). ✅ Watch Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/1bALOwwWui8/v-deo.html ✅ Watch Part 2: ua...
Camping In An Electric Car Is AWESOME And You Need To Try It Yourself
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Camping In An Electric Car Is AWESOME And You Need To Try It Yourself Part 2 of our road trip to Jasper National Park in Alberta, Canada in a Tesla Model Y Long Range (which we rented from Hertz) starts with a summary of our night camping in two very different electric cars: the Tesla Model Y Long Range and Kia Soul EV Limited. If you have never camped in an EV, you must try it, it's a very fun...
12V Battery In My EV Just Died And I Had To Jump Start An Electric Car
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12V Battery In My EV Just Died And I Had To Jump Start An Electric Car Who knew that electric cars can experience a dead 12V battery. My Kia Soul EV Limited showed a low 12 volt battery warning on many occasions and even when I brought this up to Kia service they said I should just trickle charge it overnight. So I did. However, the trickle charging did not help at all. What happened next was t...
Canadian 1000 KM Challenge In The Tesla Model Y Long Range
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Canadian 1000 KM Challenge In The Tesla Model Y Long Range There have been others who have done this type of challenge, but not many in North America or Canada. This is why I wanted to try this myself and here we are: this is the Canadian 1000KM Challenge in a Tesla Model Y Long Range. We all know that if you combine the Tesla Model Y Long Range with the Supercharger network you get awesome rel...
Tesla Model Y Long Range Is STILL The Best Road Trip EV Money Can Buy
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Tesla Model Y Long Range Is STILL The Best Road Trip EV Money Can Buy New location, new EV road trip series, this time we take the Tesla Model Y Long Range (rented from Hertz) as well as the Kia Soul EV Limited on a camping trip to Jasper National Park in Alberta, Canada. The Tesla Model Y Long Range is still the best road trip electric vehicle money can buy, all thanks to the awesome Superchar...
The Electric Car Infrastructure In This Part Of Canada Is Seriously Lacking
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The Electric Car Infrastructure In This Part Of Canada Is Seriously Lacking It's been a while. Many things have changed. I moved to a part of Canada where the electric car infrastructure is seriously lacking. The main industry here is oil production and, as you can imagine, everything and anything with a combustion engine is king. Electric cars are left behind. The charging infrastructure (unle...
Level 1 EV Charging Worth It? Review Of The DAOLAR Portable EV Charger
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Level 1 EV Charging Worth It? Review Of The DAOLAR Portable EV Charger Most EV owners swear by both Level 2 and Level 3 EV charging, due to higher speeds that both options offer. But what about Level 1 EV charging? Most EV owners believe that Level 1 EV charging is slow and cumbersome. But I decided to give Level 1 charging a fair chance and along the way I was also able to test and review the ...
Which Electric Scooter Is BEST? Lime VS Neuron Mobility Comparison And Review
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Which Electric Scooter Is BEST? Lime VS Neuron Mobility Comparison And Review Today a slightly different video, we move away from electric cars and focus on electric scooters. The EV space is full of various types vehicles and we were happy to discover that just a few days ago the city of Coquitlam (where we live, part of Greater Vancouver) finally allowed the introduction of electric scooter s...
Tesla NACS To J1772 Charging Adapter From DEDC Is A Must Have For EV Owners
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Tesla NACS To J1772 Charging Adapter From DEDC Is A Must Have For EV Owners About two weeks ago Ford announced the switch from the CCS charging standard to Tesla NACS and the news took the EV world by storm. Soon after, General Motors followed suit. This is where a product like the DEDC Tesla NACS to J1772 adapter becomes a must have for any non-Tesla EV owner. ✅ Want to find out more about the...
Is Shell ReCharge Finally A Good Option For EV Fast Charging?
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Is Shell ReCharge Finally A Good Option For EV Fast Charging? I reviewed a Shell ReCharge fast charging location already on the channel and turned out to be an epic fail. If you want to watch the video in question, here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/eX9ECWnXd1E/v-deo.html I suggest you watch that video first and come back here for Round Two. Recently, Shell ReCharge has been busy setting up new...
Gold Shield 5L Tesla Model 3 Car Cover From CarCover.com Review
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Gold Shield 5L Tesla Model 3 Car Cover From CarCover.com Review
Tesla CCS 350kW Charging: Slow And Expensive Or Better Than A Supercharger?
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Tesla CCS 350kW Charging: Slow And Expensive Or Better Than A Supercharger?
Charge Any EV With A Tesla Charger A2Z EV Stellar Plug Tesla NACS To J1772 Adapter
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Charge Any EV With A Tesla Charger A2Z EV Stellar Plug Tesla NACS To J1772 Adapter
WIRELESS Apple CarPlay Android Auto One Car Stereo AI Box Honner Review
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WIRELESS Apple CarPlay Android Auto One Car Stereo AI Box Honner Review
Tesla Model Y 600 Mile (1000 KM) Electrify America CCS Road Trip
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Tesla Model Y 600 Mile (1000 KM) Electrify America CCS Road Trip
This NEW EV Charger Is NOT Reliable | On The Run EV Charger By FreeWire
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This NEW EV Charger Is NOT Reliable | On The Run EV Charger By FreeWire
Should You RENT A Hertz Tesla Model Y Long Range?
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Should You RENT A Hertz Tesla Model Y Long Range?
600 Mile (1000 KM) Tesla Model Y Road Trip In Less Than One Day
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600 Mile (1000 KM) Tesla Model Y Road Trip In Less Than One Day
THESE Are The Reasons WHY I Drive An EV | Feat. @MaplEV_Leaf
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THESE Are The Reasons WHY I Drive An EV | Feat. @MaplEV_Leaf
Tesla Model 3 SR+ VS Kia Soul EV Limited Winter Efficiency Test
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Tesla Model 3 SR VS Kia Soul EV Limited Winter Efficiency Test
On The Run Is The Newest EV Fast Charger Network In Canada
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On The Run Is The Newest EV Fast Charger Network In Canada
Tesla Supercharger: The BEST Reason To Buy A Tesla
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Tesla Supercharger: The BEST Reason To Buy A Tesla
Portable Level 2 EV Charger Is Great For Tesla Owners (WoShion 40 AMP NEMA 14-50)
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Portable Level 2 EV Charger Is Great For Tesla Owners (WoShion 40 AMP NEMA 14-50)
This 25kW EV Charger From BC Hydro MIGHT Drive Mass EV Adoption
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This 25kW EV Charger From BC Hydro MIGHT Drive Mass EV Adoption
iZEEKER 4K GPS and WiFi Dash Cam (GD800) Unboxing and Review
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iZEEKER 4K GPS and WiFi Dash Cam (GD800) Unboxing and Review

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @josephahtyler
    @josephahtyler 13 днів тому

    Thank you! Your video helped me figure out how to fix my dead EV!

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 24 дні тому

    Take care with your privacy, re the full postal code. It’s not a large area. Ps, I am NOT a stalker.

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 25 днів тому

    On the run? More like run away

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Місяць тому

    Do a review of the charging in Quebec. The ccs network is really strong there.

  • @jpmtgsvc
    @jpmtgsvc Місяць тому

    Hi. I am thinking of buying Kia ev. Let's say EV9 for a long road trip. It comes with CCS now. Should I wait until KIA vehicle which comes with NACS plug?

  • @mike73ng
    @mike73ng Місяць тому

    One day, if the vast majority have switched or been forced to switch to EV’s, the cost will continue to increase to the point that solar and alternative means of producing power will become more economical. That’s when they will find a way to tax the sun. They are not going to let some people enjoy “free” power while the rest have to pay through the nose.

  • @samjam6989
    @samjam6989 Місяць тому

    Now there are 150kwh chargers from BC hydro

  • @maximaalski
    @maximaalski Місяць тому

    Hey thanks for sharing this. I've been searching for a compact jump starter able to possibly start my Bolt EV if it were to happen and this device looks good. Keep up the nice videos and the channel 👍

  • @marclemieux8269
    @marclemieux8269 Місяць тому

    I noticed that after you changed your setting so as to charge at 16 amps at level 1, you plugged your EVSE into a regular NEMA 5-15 outlet. Shouldn't you have limited your amperage to a maximum of 12 amps maximum, which is 80% of 15 amps, so as to avoid overheating the wiring and ultimately tripping the 15-amp breaker? You can only safely charge at 16 amps with a level 1 EVSE using a NEMA 5-20 outlet only!

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Місяць тому

    Wait till Taco Bell hits! Hope there are rest stops

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Місяць тому

    I like per minute, unless the charger is glitching and derating

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Місяць тому

    Damm that tesler is crazy efficient.

  • @JohnRoss1
    @JohnRoss1 2 місяці тому

    I ended up replacing the OEM battery and bought a replacement AGM battery from Canadian Tire with a full replacement warranty. The Kia battery is prorated and you'd get the same 'weaker' battery back and have to fuss with the dealer to get it claimed. On my 2022 EV6 GT-LINE 2 with the OEM Battery I used the lithium booster a few times and saved a tow. Well worth it to have one.

  • @auronedgevicks7739
    @auronedgevicks7739 2 місяці тому

    The car controls the charging speed not the charger station

  • @victorseal9047
    @victorseal9047 2 місяці тому

    Surely during the winter months you will benefit ??😮

  • @auronedgevicks7739
    @auronedgevicks7739 2 місяці тому

    redbull gives you erectile dysfunction

  • @SynthiaAaron-bv3fd
    @SynthiaAaron-bv3fd 2 місяці тому

    Hi, do you know what size motor is in the neuron?

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately the company does not share specifications of their scooters so we don’t know the motor and battery size unfortunately.

    • @SynthiaAaron-bv3fd
      @SynthiaAaron-bv3fd 2 місяці тому

      @@LeftCoastEV ah ok, thanks for the reply 😉

  • @pepperwatson7784
    @pepperwatson7784 2 місяці тому

    All electric vehicles totally electric vehicles have a problem with the 12 V battery

  • @Historic_Adventures_UK
    @Historic_Adventures_UK 2 місяці тому

    Tesla may have tech, but pretty much same as all EVs, 1 thing Tesla don’t have and that’s style, and they carnt even come up with a decent name for various cars, like wtf is “Modal 3” or “Modal Y” all about pmpl carnt even think of a decent modal name, plus the cars are plain and ugly

  • @FromPetroltoTesla
    @FromPetroltoTesla 2 місяці тому

    Nice video!

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 2 місяці тому

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @user-pd6if9bu6c
    @user-pd6if9bu6c 2 місяці тому

    thanks great video - I have nissan leaf & adapter makes lots of sense!

  • @Snerdles
    @Snerdles 2 місяці тому

    It actually got cheaper per kWh when moving from time to consumption. Especially if you had a vehicle that was unable to cap the charger capacity. The problem is that DC fast charging in general is about as expensive as gas and it already doesn't include things like road taxes to cover road maintenance. The Electrify Canada near my house is a 350 and charges 60 cents per kWh. The electricity rate I pay at home is 12.5 cents per kWh. If you have a super efficient car and pull 6KM per kWh that means 10 cents per KM. A similar car getting 6L per 100km at $1.65 per liter you are paying 9.9 cents per km. My plugin hybrid gets more like 4.5L per 100km so it's far cheaper just to use gas over a public charger.

  • @vulpixelful
    @vulpixelful 3 місяці тому

    I don't know when this changed but Flo now let's you charge without signing up for an account. A lot of the other apps do too, and it's helpful when you're at the charging station already. Otherwise, I just sign up at home.

  • @vulpixelful
    @vulpixelful 3 місяці тому

    She brought up a good point about having more pictures for people whose first language isn't English! As for if I ever find myself downloading an app only after I get to a charger, password vaults (not just your browser!) can also vault your payment methods so that helps the autofill along.

  • @68RedDragonz
    @68RedDragonz 3 місяці тому

    usage based is best... otherwise you penalize the people with slower charging cars, and the people that can afford the faster charging cars are unfairly benefitting. bc hydro is usage based and starts a penalty charge 5 minutes after charging is finished to prompt people to clear out.

  • @webreakforsquirrel4201
    @webreakforsquirrel4201 3 місяці тому

    Only 3 minutes in and my prediction is the bill is going to be higher. For 2 reasons 1: everything costs more today than yesterday. 2: why would the bill ever go down when they are in control of your power? The more the sun generates the more they will profit off the scam they designed. The cost will never go down, y'all are living in a delusion fantasy.

  • @bradryan8071
    @bradryan8071 3 місяці тому

    When they built the bridge from PEI to the mainland, a trip across the bridge was the same price as the cost of taking the Ferry, with the DUMB rational that if that's what the Ferry cost, then people will be glad to pay that price to use the bridge instead. ( Regardless of what the cost should have been to say pay the bridge off in a certain amount of time ). Filling up a car with a tank of Gas is now between $80 - $120 for people with gasoline engines. I am predicting right now, that as the government loses its gas taxes and revenues when more and more people someday switch to electric, the cost of charging a car will get closer and closer to the cost of filling up a tank of gas, thus nullifying the great advantage of switching to electric.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      They can control public charging, but home charging will remain affordable. It will be hard for them to regulate the plugs in my own home. And I haven’t mentioned solar power yet which I plan to install in my home soon and make charging my EV even more affordable.

    • @bradryan8071
      @bradryan8071 3 місяці тому

      @@LeftCoastEV A friend of mine was a senior executive in a power company. He says that grids are not even close to being able to provide electrical charging ability to many homes on one street. As more homes charge their EV's there will be an infrastructure cost to upgrade and more importantly, the government due to lost gas revenue will upcharge your electrical rate at your home if you are using a charger. I dont mean to be negative, as I love the idea of electric cars, but I am too used to government hands in our pockets.

  • @ChandlerHyatt
    @ChandlerHyatt 3 місяці тому

    Fair, balanced review. Inconsistencies in power output should have been enough to question the time-based model from the start. As others have commented and as you shared, it seems like a warranted and worthwhile investment on the consumer's part to help these providers increase their capacity to provide this service, which should be used primarily for convenience on long trips. Also glad to see your Soul EV pulling very close to what it's rated for- an underrated early offering imo. Thank you for your thoughtful reflections- many chase clout and clickbait, but you seek to educate, and I learned something today. Another well-earned subscriber who's excited for 1k. Keep it up.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the kind words. I’m trying hard to carve out my own voice in the EV UA-cam world and not follow what everyone else is doing. Thank you for the subscription, I really do appreciate it. I am still in awe of how well the Kia Soul EV is doing in range and charging after 80k+ kilometres driven over the last 3 years. Still a great EV.

  • @tomuschrysos
    @tomuschrysos 3 місяці тому

    how’s the Kia soul EV? Real world range any good? What year is yours?

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Mine is a 2021 Kia Soul EV Limited. Highway range in summer is around 350km. And this is after 3 years and $80k+ kilometres on the odometer. I am planning to do a range test this summer along the same route that I did my winter extreme run just to compare.

  • @gerhardk98
    @gerhardk98 3 місяці тому

    One other thought by time billing has a built in incentive for people to quit charging at 80% since the cost per kWh increased as charging slowed.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Didn’t think of that and yes you are right. Good point!

  • @gerhardk98
    @gerhardk98 3 місяці тому

    The way I look at DC fast chargers is that they are a convenience and I am ok paying a premium. 95% of my charging is at 7 cents per kWh.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Same here. I charge mostly at home and I limit my DC charging to road trips.

  • @JetFire9
    @JetFire9 3 місяці тому

    Sold my Tesla after it broke down on the side of the road after only 5K miles and I found out with a quick search that this happens more often with new EV's than any new ICE cars. One of the extra pluses of selling my Tesla is that I laugh at the suckers every time I pass a public charger, and I am thank the Lord I know longer have to plug in every time I get home.

  • @terrystanski7814
    @terrystanski7814 3 місяці тому

    I was surprised that it cost more vs time charging. By the way, did you ever find out what happened with your ev brake failure you posted a video about?

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      The brake failure was caused by an ECU issue and the ECU had to be replaced. Kia did not get in touch with me and did not provide more info. Tried reaching out to them multiple times to no avail. Maybe one day if my channel gets bigger and I get to speak with someone from Kia I will try to get an answer.

  • @briank9354
    @briank9354 3 місяці тому

    They need to ban these stupid memberships for charging

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I don’t mind paying the $7 to Electrify Canada when I am on a road trip and know I will be using their chargers often. Then when I come back I cancel it. They savings can be quite good. Would I be paying them monthly if not taking a road trip? Nope, I won’t.

  • @Kevin-dp1vy
    @Kevin-dp1vy 3 місяці тому

    The price you are paying for charging is so much cheaper than here in the UK. Our local public chargers are priced per kWh that you take and that costs £0.79 per kWh, about C$1.38.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Jeez that is indeed expensive! Didn’t realize the UK was that expensive, but is it still cheaper than gas?

    • @Kevin-dp1vy
      @Kevin-dp1vy 3 місяці тому

      @@LeftCoastEV Depends what you drive. I have a 2 litre petrol wagon that costs me roughly 16 Pence per mile in petrol. A similar size EV getting 3 miles per kw would be 26 Pence per mile using a public charger.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Huge difference. Thanks for sharing these numbers. In Canada fuel is expensive so it makes sense to drive electric.

    • @Kevin-dp1vy
      @Kevin-dp1vy 3 місяці тому

      @@LeftCoastEV petrol in the UK is around £1.45 per litre, C$2.54. Of that around 80 pence goes to the government in tax. Sooner or later the government will have to find a way to get all that tax from EV drivers.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Our gas prices depend on province and city and it varies from anywhere from $1.30 to almost $2.00 in parts of British Columbia. That’s per litre for regular fuel. For us taxes make up most of the price as well. Alberta, the province where I live, recently implemented an EV tax of $200 that will start in 2025, paid annually during registration. I think this is the first step in taxing EV drivers and I see it increase in the coming years.

  • @Mandocellist
    @Mandocellist 3 місяці тому

    Yes, per kWh billing is the only logical choice. That said, it looks like EC used the change to hide a massive price increase. Based on your two charging sessions, the price more than doubled. As a LEAF driver, I think the change will be good for me (especially on the third or fourth charge on a road trip, once the battery is toasty warm and the BMS is throttling the charging speed).

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I made this point in my video: now the playing field is level and no matter if you are driving a Leaf or a brand new EV6 you will pay the same for the energy you put into your vehicle. No longer must we pray that the charger we will stop at will function properly and give us the maximum charging speed that it advertises (and our vehicle can take). However, you are right. EC did hide a huge price increase, but if it means more charging infrastructure in the future I am all for it. Thanks for watching!

  • @tamjeff1751
    @tamjeff1751 3 місяці тому

    Electrify America is so fast. More expensive yes but it's so fast and the turnover is fast. I tried buying some shoes and apparel and was in a hurry because the. Charging was finished so fast. 28 dollars cdn? From Renton and back to South Van. Definitely the cheapest way to get there

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Glad you had a good experience. What EV are you driving?

    • @tamjeff1751
      @tamjeff1751 2 місяці тому

      Hyundai ioniq 38kw

  • @dougabbott8261
    @dougabbott8261 3 місяці тому

    They need to integrate good chargers with a place to grab something to eat , shop etc. Price for charging is still pretty cheap when compared to gassing up. Hopefully the government will push for more and better charging.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Totally agree. Make charging like a gas station. When I am there I will stay for a few minutes and would love a coffee and a snack.

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose 3 місяці тому

    Where’s that charging station, red deer? Not that I’ll use it. I couldn’t get an account with EC to work on the app.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      It’s located at 6720 52 Avenue in Red Deer right next to a Save On Foods supermarket and Gas Plus station. But they also have plenty of Supercharging for Ford owners in Red Deer and we all know that is more reliable anyway.

    • @Lorwildrose
      @Lorwildrose 3 місяці тому

      @@LeftCoastEV I have tried the superchargers but the station I went to wasn’t looked after and some had corroded pins in the charging handle. Another location the one I got to work only maxed out at 49kwh down to 37kwh. So the Tesla experience isn’t all it’s bragged about.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Interesting. Thanks for sharing this info.

  • @Wiseguy1138
    @Wiseguy1138 3 місяці тому

    Wow the western provinces get all the newer charger tech. I have only seen 2 Electrify Canada stations around Ottawa (one in the east end, and one an hour away in Brockville) and both are the old stations. But I will say they’re the only ones who have any kind of shade/shelter. All the rest are the old Flo/Electric Circuit big blue boxes with barely legible calculator screens or level 2 chargers. My 2023 Soul EV can do up to 100kw/h but it never gets those speeds but realistically most of the aforementioned chargers we have top out at 50kw/h. But I hear you, my next car I’m making it a point to have MANUAL battery preconditioning. I want a button that I can control, not have to rely on some algorithm or forcing to use the in-car navigation system. And yes I hope these companies actually invest in Canada (not just the US infrastructure) but also invest in Central Canada because again all the videos I see show that Alberta and BC are years ahead on infrastructure than Ontario is. Quebec is ok but they’ve always been top notch with hydro.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I’ve said it many times and I will say it again: manual battery preconditioning has to be standard on every EV. All the new 2024 VW EVs now come with a button on the infotainment and allow you to stat preconditioning when you want to. They also tell you an approximate time needed to get full speed charging when on a road trip. All cars need this. And, yes, I hope all the price increases with charging will in turn make it so companies invest in infrastructure more especially in Provinces like Ontario.

  • @ndufresne
    @ndufresne 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video, always nice to see we are not alone. Had the same issue on Hyundai 2019, dried the car doors open for 2h after cleaning it and 12V died. Though, mine booted (I say booted cause it's a computer:-)) off my old Motomaster charger directly set at only 2A, and that works. I noticed the positive is attached to a 10A heat fuse, that would prevent charging at a decent pace while the battery is connected. Manual so recommend pulling it out for external charging. I did get the 5y old battery replaced, it's not lithium, 5y is a great life time for traditional batteries.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I have since learned that I would need to remove the battery for charging. Kia and Hyundai really need to sort this out. I’ve read that even owners of the brand new EV9 have 12v issues. I’ve since taken the car to the dealer and they replaced the 12v under warranty (I only paid a portion of the cost). It was just in the nick of time as I almost hit 3 years of ownership when it was replaced.

  • @rosiekong5472
    @rosiekong5472 3 місяці тому

    Agree that we need more reliable charging stations and if a price increase like this makes it so companies invest more, I’m ok with it.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Let’s hope that by us paying more they will also invest more in infrastructure.

  • @westcoastbestcoast88
    @westcoastbestcoast88 3 місяці тому

    I agree that kWh billing is more fair for the consumer and I like the model that Electrify Canada is doing with the membership and this lower charging cost. Some chargers are way too expensive like the Tesla Magic Dock in Calgary. I know they also offer a membership but it’s still more than Electrify Canada. Very good video thanks for discussing this topic.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Yes the Tesla chargers are the most expensive options but they are more reliable than other providers. Thanks for the thoughts and glad you liked the video.

    • @rozonoemi9374
      @rozonoemi9374 3 місяці тому

      And more in quantité of station

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Indeed. We need more and more of them that is for sure!

  • @sedawk
    @sedawk 3 місяці тому

    Very good video. I think overall per kWh based billing is better; however, it does mean I pay more for charging sometimes. I charged my F-150 at a Shell station a few months ago (time-based) and I paid about half what it costs at a Tesla station (kWh based). So I was lucky there, but with the issues you had mentioned - plus slower stations - like BC hydro - I think the kWh billing is more reasonable. It is just the kHw pricing can be quite different. For the non-member Tesla chargers in Hope BC they are $0.62 per kWh while in Red Deer AB they are $0.90 per kWh. (The opposite of gas prices!)

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Tesla chargers for non Tesla vehicles are always more expensive. The Magic Dock station in Calgary is also $0.90 per kWh. It was a bit cheaper when it first opened. But some people have told me that they will gladly play more for Tesla reliability. For me, I would think they should lower the pricing somewhat it’s way too expensive now. Plus the membership they offer is pricy as well. Glad you liked the video! How is charging on Tesla chargers for a Ford owner now? Are you experiencing any issues?

    • @sedawk
      @sedawk 3 місяці тому

      ​@@LeftCoastEV The Tesla chargers have been amazing. Tesla has removed most of the bollards at the sites so I am able to pull straight in and charge at most stations. I have plug and charge activated on my Ford - so I just connect my adapter, plug in the truck and I am charging in 20 seconds. Flawlessly. Every time. I completed a trip a few weeks ago from the Sunshine Coast to North Battleford SK. I used Superchargers for just about every stop and it completely took away any possible stress from taking such a long trip in a very inefficient EV. Also, Alberta (especially Edmonton) is a bit of a charging wasteland, so the Superchargers made a difficult trip super easy. I only charged at three non-Tesla sites the whole trip: Hotel in Kamloops (L2), Chevy dealer on Whyte Ave (a great spot), and Electrify Canada in Calgary. The only grief I had was, of course, Electrify Canada. The first station didn't activate, the second one decided to stop working half way through the charge, so I had to move to the 3rd station to finish the charge. Whereas every Tesla stop worked perfectly - a few times I was at 80% before I was ready to hit the road! Also, the Tesla locations are generally much better than Electrify Canada. The location of Electrify Canada in Golden is just nuts - there is nothing there! Tesla seems to plan their locations very well.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Amazing, thanks for the info! I’m trying to convince my wife that getting a Lightning is a good idea so I will show this comment to her. We are getting a little tired of the limited fast charging options outside of what Tesla offers so getting a Ford right now makes sense for us. We also enjoy winter activities and driving to Jasper for example we are stuck using 50 kW Flo chargers, but there are, of course, Superchargers right next to Flo that would get us on the road quicker. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @sedawk
      @sedawk 3 місяці тому

      ​@@LeftCoastEV That is great - I really can't say enough good things about my Lightning. I have owned vehicles for over 30 years and this is by far my favourite one. There are very few downsides to the Ford F-150. Software is lagging behind Tesla and others. Also, it is big! Takes a little getting use too - especially if you are new to trucks. However, it is an amazing vehicle - especially for a family. So much room and incredibly comfortable on a road trip. Someone described it as "taking your living room on a road trip" - that is an apt description. For the rear passengers it feels almost like being in the back of the limo - just so much room. Of course, I mentioned the access to Tesla, but the charging is good. It doesn't have super fast speeds like others, but the charging curve is excellent. No matter your SOC when you plug in you get your first 10 minutes of charging at 150 to 170 kWh. Then it drops to around 110 until you hit 80%. So for efficient EV travel there is no math or wait calculation - just charge to 80% and go! Of course, going to Jasper is perfect. Top up in Edson (my session was I pulled in from Edmonton at 33% and charged to 82% while getting breakfast at A&W - added 67 kWh in exactly 30 min). I was able to skip Jasper and pulled into Valemount at 20% SOC. Charged to 77% (took 34 min and added 78 kWh).

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Thanks again for the all the useful information. I did take a quick test drive in a Lightning and love it. Now I just need to convince my wife that a truck would work for our family!

  • @LeftCoastEV
    @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

    What are your thoughts on the switch from a time based to a usage based charging model? Do you think the current rates are expensive? Let me know your thoughts down below.

    • @rozonoemi9374
      @rozonoemi9374 3 місяці тому

      In Canada, Tesla Superchargers are @ 0.67$ a KW, quite expensive compared to .074$ @ KW for off peak tarif in Ontario.

  • @micahjones240
    @micahjones240 3 місяці тому

    It’s a solution to save the charger owners money - they don’t want to pay for the power upgrades to run a true DC fast charger - as soon as the 160 kW battery depletes it becomes a level two charger until that battery is filled again which can take a long time - It’s not a solution for the future probably why freewire is closing

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      They definitely missed the mark with these chargers. Easy to install but not useful in high traffic areas. And, yes, Freewire is also to blame as it convinced these operators that this tech would work. This is also why they are potentially closing their doors.

  • @adriangoynes4628
    @adriangoynes4628 3 місяці тому

    It's to often where I show up to one of these and either the internal battery is already recharging itself and now can only deliver 8kw or I'll plug in and after a short charge it drops to 8kw. It's very frustrating using these and they are the only ones near my home.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the feedback. Seems like they work just like they always did. I said it before and I will say it again: these chargers are not meant to be installed in high traffic environments.

  • @voldar70
    @voldar70 3 місяці тому

    Great test driving and I like you set the conditions from the start : +5 km/h on the speed limit.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I think the way to do these tests is through constant speed that most people will be driving at. It makes it most realistic. Glad you liked the video!

  • @user-zg2ws2hh6u
    @user-zg2ws2hh6u 3 місяці тому

    Is everything lit, all night ?

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      You mean inside the car? You can turn off the main screen and there is an option to dim the dashboard lights as well. We also use a blanket to cover up the dashboard so it’s dark enough to sleep.

  • @RandomTorok
    @RandomTorok 3 місяці тому

    I had my 2016 Kia Soul EV haul to a charging station tonight. The tow company had to hook up a battery pack to allow me to release the brakes and I was then able to drive onto and off the tow truck. I noticed that the car said there was 65 KM left in the high voltage battery. But everytime the tow truck driver disconnected the battery pack the car would die. Do I need to replace my 8 year old battery or will one of these jumpers work for me?

    • @RandomTorok
      @RandomTorok 3 місяці тому

      I should mention that my car sat for the last week because I blew a tire and had to wait for a replacement tire to come in. Got the tire mounted and balanced then installed it on my car and that's when I noticed it wouldn't start.\

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      I think you have a 12v battery issue. These jumpers are a temporary fix. Better go and have the 12v tested and you will probably need to replace it.

    • @LeftCoastEV
      @LeftCoastEV 3 місяці тому

      Yeah when Kia or Hyundai cars sit idle the 12v still depletes for some reason. I doubt you have a high voltage battery issue but definitely the 12v needs to be looked at.