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ROCK AND STONE!

I love that you used each game's font at 14:51 :3

Because hes in a good game, and junk rat isnt.

Demonight

I hate this systen

The reason why the 6 character game has better characters is because there’s less characters Even with all the subclasses still less and the player base are a bunch of chill guys who really don’t give a fuck

I actually used this weapon all the time-

Im only commenting to make this video have 69 comments

30s into this video and I'm done with your voice and tone. You sound like you need to blow your nose.

as a baptiste main junkrats are my favorite for farming solo kills

stickies are worse than junkrat can't really dodge them or counterplay them other than airblast and short circuit or being so close to the demo you can smell his breath which an experienced demo wouldn't let you do Pipes on the other hand are respectable because they can be difficult to aim and are satisfying to hit

i kinda see why devs would separate both , because being able to just immideately attack or use movement tech means that the fights could be too fast paced/unfair since how are you supposed to kill the guy that comes out of nowhere. unironicallythe closest ""movement shooter"is probably team fortress 2(huge emphasis on the movement part and also considering the playstylesthat focus on movement uses melee, weapons except for maybe scouy also the shooter partt)

You need some vix vaporub

rock and stone

The thing that gets me the most about Jr is that everyone just swears he's so useless but I play against them constantly. One thing I know about multiplayer games most players don't pick characters for being difficult and unrewarding

I can see why some people think that.

Rock and stone is like tf2? HOLY SHIT

Junkrat can also "Command Grab" someone with his trap, has almost no arming time, so he can throw it on someone's head and it will arm almost as soon as it hits the ground, snagging the target. Super unfun to play against.

Who hates junkrat

Only bronze players hare junkrat

s4 leauge. 3rd person view and shotguns with nockback effect. We solved this ages ago but nobody paid attention to it.

i think in TF2 its just way harder to hit demomans pipes

One big thing you hadn't mentioned: he's a defense hero (1.0 categorization), he's designed to block off a side-corridor. His spam is incredibly good as constant grenades in a hallway is extremely quickly being combo-d down. Unfortunately, having your approach options limited is incredibly annoying, as every time you try and get through you either take damage and are forced to retreat, or are killed for just playing the game. This strategy is easy to counter in a coordinated team, but super OP if your team is uncoordinated making you feel at the mercy of your team and the junkrat, and because most people play uncoordinated, it is frustrating. His kit is pretty counterable, so the junkrat is incentivized to use it to his advantage and hit people using the grenade arc or bounces behind walls or corners, or rip tire near the enemy team around a corner so they cannot even react or shoot back, feeling super uninteractive.

Been a while since I played either game, but one big thing I remember is Junkrat was generally seen as ineffective for the objective and pretty good at feeding enemy ults. He does a lot of damage without getting kills. That and the nature of being able to do so by simply spamming attacks. Yes, Junkrat build his ult that way, but the same goes for the enemies. Demoman on the other hand is effective, has effective point hold and mobility options, and then obviously the whole demoknight subclass

I always thought it odd how "similar yet different" junkrat felt compared to Demo. Your video really goes in depth as to why. I'd also like to point out how TF2 doesn't really like movement impairing crowd control because they know how unfun it is to not be able to move. Yeah, there's the Natasha, but even that's been nerfed to hell to the point you barely notice it.

I don’t really get this, a lot of people hate Demoman. Dying to sticky bombs isn’t fun lol.

ur a dork

I think this also has a lot to do with the kind of people who (still) play overwatch and their (miserable) attitudes whilst playing when compared to the whacked out memelords currently on TF2. The people playing overwatch 2 right now aren’t playing for fun like those on TF2. If you are a victim of Overwatch Stockholm syndrome and you’d like recommendations of GOOD games for any budget, let me know. You can get help and OW WILL NOT get better.

Lol oh god another TF2 fanboy video. Junkrat is not hated and this fanboy knows damn well TF2 is not better than overwatch lol. I don't even play overwatch anymore and I still would never say some nonsense like that. Dead ass game lol

1:17 Were leaving that take in, huh?

I do like that idea of grenades not exploding on contact after the first bounce, that imo would do wonders for how annoying junkrat is without hurting his skill ceiling much at all. Maybe the first bounce still explodes so you can bank shot off a wall. I will say junkrat at high elo is quite respected due to players actually knowing how to play around the spam, so he needs to get creative.

And TF2 players complain about the Scorch Shot's little baby stun. I'm watching people getting batted around by Junkrat's grenades with mouth agape.

I'm a paladins dredge player.

I must ask how many attacks are fair before you get to heal or punish? If a boss attacked fifty times in a row but gave you a window to punish or heal would it be fair? How about twenty? Where is that number? These bosses do high amounts of damage which leads to hit trading being the best strat. What happened to hard but fair?

I love junkrat :(

Junknight when?

It's the problem of game, not the hero. Game dynamics in OW doesn't work like it does in TF2. You put Demoman in OW and he would 100% get the Junkrats "no brain spamrat" treatment.

idk man I love junkrat and I'm glad pros are finally picking him up. he almost never saw play professionally because he was regarded as a bad pick but now people see his potential and different playstyles. I think he's a funny funky dude and I like playing him and I don't think he's that awful to play against.

Short Answer: Demoman's mechanic philosophy is fun AND intuitive. Junkrat is fun.

Man I really wanted to watch this, I couldn't understand half the things you said my brotha

Simple. Junkrat is a walking aimbot while Demoman takes actual skill.

because youre a tf2uber. thats literally it, thats the reason. High level junkrats ARE respected. Having played a lot of both games people definitely hate both, as both have spam potential. Nobody has ever complained about sticky spam, RIGHT? Maybe if we were talking about exclusively demoknights that are insane at trimping you'd have a point.

Demoman gets easier when you chugging down your scrumpeh one by one.

I think the core of the issue is Demoman has counterplay, and thus is fun to play against. His mines can be destroyed, his primary gun requires not just aim, but timing and prediction to use effectively, and he's a danger to himself in close quarters situations, making up close classes like Scout and Spies excel at taking him out. Junkrat can be effective in almost anybodies hands. The much more choke centric maps in Overwatch encourages sitting in a corner spamming grenades at a choke, and you probably will get a few kills or at least do some damage. 9 times out of 10, when I watch a Junkrat's kill cam, it's clear he wasn't even TRYING to kill me specifically, hell usually the Junkrat can't even see you and he gets the kill. Then we have Riptire. This thing is just OP. Full stop. In the hands of noobs, it can be dealt with fairly easily, but if the Junk is even slightly above average skill, he can easily get a multikill while remaining almost completely safe from harm himself. Honestly, I think giving himself something like %50 self damage would go a long way. He could still sticky mine jump, but he'd have to watch his health, as it's essentially now also a resource meter for his main movement utility. It would also discourage random spamming as you could easily end up hitting yourself. Choke spamming would still be a thing, but at least you'd have a better chance at killing the junk instead of him just shooting one or 2 nades at you, then sticky bomb jumping to safety, it'd now be a calculated risk for him to do so, making positioning even more important.

People always talk about how easy junkrats guns are to hit people, as someone who plays junk rat regularly. It is, in fact, not easy to hit certain shots. Sometimes, you could miss your opponent by an inch and lose the whole engage ment. While he might have range on his arch, it's not easy to hit those shots, any long-range character like ana, widow, soldier, and sojourn can easily pick you off if your positioning is wrong. Junkrats kit is not forgiving, if you mess up your shots against a hit scan or use all your land mines too early, you are going to be in for a rough time. Because he only has 5 shots, and that makes it difficult to deal with regular close-up damage without using land mines

THERE IS ALSO A HUGE DESCRPEANCY in player base. OW player are just whiney bitches

Its called rosetintes lenses. Fact

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I dont really like the domination system cause i always get dommed by a damn furry scorch shot/combo pyro or a blackbox soldier with a med in his ass and call them ĝ @ ỳ Guess its my fault for only playing 2fort

I do prefer demoman to junkrat but I still love junkrat for his comedic stance you the white patriarchal fascist republican America. Nah I'm just kidding I like him because he's funny