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Spoken like a true genre nazi! 😂

@@TomChurchill lol I know. I am very opinionated on this because almost no one has been able to crack the code and many are stuck thinking you just produce filtered chord stabs with a bit of delay feedback on top of it. Unfortunately, that doesn't work and it will sound flat, and extremely generic. In I have been trying to reproduce it digitally for the past few years as a hobbyist and haven't gotten further than daisy chaining compressors with delays.

@@Ruktiet sure, I totally get all that. In my defence this video was just intended as a quick demo of a new delay effect - I’m certainly not claiming this is a finished bit of music and I’m well aware it doesn’t sound as good as a Basic Channel record - I’ve been listening to them for 30 years so trust me, I do understand the nuances of the sound! What I would say is that I think modern tools can be just as valid and actually kind of essential to move the genre on, otherwise it becomes nothing but navel-gazing retro fetishism. I think a complex digital delay in the right hands, with the right kind of additional analogue processing, could produce really spectacular results that take the dub techno sound into new directions. But that’s certainly not what I claim to be doing here! I want someone else to be inspired to do something wonderful with it. If it just becomes about using the exact same gear that Mark and Moritz were using in the 90s then what’s the point? You’re not going to top what they did!

@@TomChurchill I know, I know, you have a youtube channel and want to peak the interest of your viewers. I get it. And I'm just being a cranky cynic. I'm glad you appreciate them though. "otherwise it becomes nothing but navel-gazing retro fetishism" - Well put, although I would say that this fetishism is based on really really good sounds that haven't been/have only very rarely been replicated, despite lots of efforts. If someone would just hand me the recipe I'll sort myself out. Anyways, thanks for the chat, sorry for the negativity. I subscribed. Good luck further!

Yeah, you can configure it to use the second/aux output as an LFO. There's a section on this in the manual (see p28): drive.google.com/file/d/1omWq2izjUiLlBM5_nI3zgVQcQUG_SlWs/view

no it won't, unless you add analog gear to completely warm and fuzzy it up

Fair enough - definitely not suggesting this is the only approach worth considering! Personally I'm less interested in randomly generated sequences and more interested in systems that can generate complex and intentional results from simple inputs. What bothers one mind stimulates another, I guess! :)

Sounds like the Erica Black Sequencer

Agreed, Five12 Vector is the best at this.

Well yes, obviously the Erica and Five12 sequencers are more powerful - they are large, expensive, dedicated sequencers! I’m just trying to show what’s possible by combining some simple old-school building blocks here. Sometimes methods like this can result in happy accidents that you wouldn’t come up with otherwise, for me at least. But it’s clearly not an approach for everyone 😀

@@TomChurchill The point is taken, but so far, I've heard very little compelling music made this way, there's just too many limitations to do anything of real substance from a real compositional point of view. My sound SOURCES, on the other hand, are almost entirely analog (in a sea of tiny digital source sources and processors, as has radically become the fashion in the euro world over the past 5 years or so)--which makes a huge difference to me, tonally. It has actually never been cheaper to use a sophisticated sequencer, the Erica was already well priced and the Five12 is quite discounted these days, I think you would need many, many more modules with a much higher total cost to do anything resembling the compositional complexity they let you do--with the built in subsequences, cv mods, and probability, I personally think they lead one to way more happy accidents than much more linear analog sequencers, even used the mother of all quantizers in the past (Sinfonion) and found the results were much more boring and predictable vs what one can do in the same amount of time on something like a Five12.

Yeah, I think something like the 4MS VCA Matrix would take this to whole other level!

Cheers, I really appreciate that! Glad it’s useful.

Thanks! And yes, I may have inadvertently let the cat out of the bag there 😂

Haha! Well, I can almost guarantee you won’t regret it if you do 😀

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

Cheers! Hope it was useful 😀

Yo! Yeah, it’s definitely offering something a bit different. Sequencer is mostly Xaoc Moskwa in these patches (apart from the overview patch at the start, and the final patch, which are both Keystep)

Jena is the perfect partner for Berlin to get you started, I’d say - then you’ll basically have a great wavetable VCO/LFO that should keep you busy for a while. After that you can consider Rostock, Lipsk etc if you want to do more advanced digital processing.

Yeah, I need to dig into that side a bit more! It might be possible to patch a trigger/one-shot mode (or maybe a 'gated' mode) using the sync input and a VCA...

Haha, sorry!

don't worry, grab an es9 from expert sleepers and use vcv rack or similar, these digital eurorack modules are pointless if you have a computer 👍C-sound is almost 25 years old now

Generally yes, but it depends a bit what you’re modulating! If you’re in burst mode and listening in stereo then modulation of the burst ratio will change the perceived fundamental - it’s always ‘musical’ though and you can exploit this for nice subharmonic effects. But if you just mean does it stay in tune generally then absolutely - it’s digital so pretty solid on that front.

@@TomChurchill Excellent, thanks for the thoughtful reply. Fundamental weakening is par for the course in modulation-heavy excursions, for sure. Also nice to hear it tracks well generally!

It’s a combo of a couple of camera/lighting things - a short ‘magic arm’ with a phone grip attached. Just cheap bits from Amazon, nothing fancy!

@@TomChurchill cool thanks

They’re Nest Tamers, available here: www.signalsounds.com/Gammalite-Systems-Nest-Tamers-Eurorack-patch-cable-clips

@@TomChurchill thank you!

No, it went straight in.