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As always you crackpots are entertaining.

I’m going to disagree with everything y’all said about Sheridan. First off, you keep saying, “just give them a planet”, like it’s that easy. I see two problems with that, first: most inhabitable planets are probably under the control of the various governments, so Sheridan cannot simply give them one of those, even if they are members of the Alliance. Second, even if there’s a suitable planet in uncontrolled territory, per the agreement Lochley made, they can’t leave. This thing is entirely on Byron. i can’t fault Sheridan’s reaction, because that’s pretty much how I would react if he’d pulled this stunt on me. If he had come to me and said, “Are there any planets that we might be able to colonize?” In Sheridan’s place I would have said, “Maybe, let me talk to the member worlds and see if they have anything.” But Byron didn’t do that, he went straight to coercion, and in that case my reaction would be, “You tried to blackmail me. You’re on your own now.” It also essentially backed Sheridan into a corner concerning the Alliance. At the end he says the member worlds have spoken unanimously, and now as president of the Alliance, he is bound to honor their wishes. I can criticize him for overruling Lochley in allowing them to stay on the station in the first place. I can criticize him for failing to account for how Psi Corps and EarthGov would react, and now taking measures. I cannot criticize him for his reactions to Byron’s ultimatum.

What is wrong with slow cookers (Crock Pots) Justin? I am in the Midwest too and they are great to make great comfort food dishes.

Have to be honest... not fan of the conspiracy theory section... it's booooooorinnnng. Conspiracy theirs are nonsense. As for Scott, I hope he doesn't come back with a piece of cursed Astech gold, because he couldn't help himself. 🏴‍☠️ ans saying, 'So tail me... what's because of my ship.." Then to take sa bite out of an apple. 🍎

Bigfoot is real. It seems like you all are city people.

Nessie is my favorit cryptid. My cousin, I miss my friend

I like this Gaiman episode. Loved the Lochley/Zoe interaction the most, and the password - 3 words telling a story - Gaiman can be extremely economic with his words. At the 20th B5 Anniversary convention at Galveston we had Bridget Flanery (Zoe) as a guest, and she was quite surprised (touched) of the fan reaction and fondness for a character having just a few minuted in a whole series of 5 seasons. Be seeing you.

About Lennier coming back from Ranger training with darker edges... Marcus said Rangers told him he has a lot of repressed anger and he is not repressed anymore. Rangers make you face yourself, likt the trainee that had to face the fact he needs to help others even when he is not involved or the trainee that had to face the fact he was afraid of being beaten again in the terror episode. Lennier refuses to listen to Morden here and he is avoiding the feelings he has for Delenn which is why went to Rangers in the first place. Of course he seems darker now, he is hiding stuff, even from himself.

I love the conspiracy theory segment!! Need to look up the zombie plan at some point... I also hope to go into disaster preparedness :) and the tax collection after a nuclear strike... well, that sounds ambitious. I've seen Threads, I don't think it'd have worked there. But honestly, I just hope to never have to find out. On another note, I am now going to bed. Nice bedtime story, I'm curious what I might dream of...

I love this podcast so much. I've left reviews on every platform I have access to. Another great conversation. Btw. C.S. Lewis and Mothman. I will give no further explanation. PPS. I think this episode shows that Morden was a willing accomplice of the shadows and not a meat puppet like some have guessed.

Thank you for your work. The human soul is imaginary but the genuine question is, can any Emily Dickinson poem really be sung to the tune of Yellow Rose of Texas?

Thanks!

Ha, Jessie, almost nothing comes out of Teller/Zooty's mouth! 😁 I was delighted to see Penn and Teller guest star in B5. On a serious note: Yeah, this is the other episode that I mentioned previously that helped me appreciate Capt. Lockley more. To know how the death of Zoe affected her (and still does if her password is still "Zoe's Dead") and how much she had to pull her life back together from nearly the same fate as Zoe. That might also explain why a relationship with Sheridan didn't work since she was either wilder then or trying to recover and likely over-correct, and Sheridan was probably a little too "goody-two-shoes" for her at the time. I liked the concept of episode for sure. I can see some of the people that visiting our characters, but a few seemed odd. I agree that a one-night-stand for Dodger and Garibaldi was a little strange. I think Lennier got cheated. Mr. Morden would have made better sense to appear to Vir, Londo, Sheridan, or even G'Kar. Markus would have been better for Lennier. Keffer would have been fun, and I guess if he was still alive, he might have seen the other two GROPOS (that he was forced to room with). Heck, Londo could have head a line of people waiting to see him from Morden, to Lord Reefa, either of the previous two emperors, etc. The Kosh message might have been my favorite part of the entire episode. 🙂 I didn't even think about Anna visiting Sheridan... That could have been good.

Nicole: Was there a thing between Lochley and Zoe? Scott: No! They're just gal pals.

When I first saw Dr. Strange and Wong started laughing at the warnings are at the end of the spell, it hit me that he was being so Mimbari as outlined by Reebo. Either of my grandfathers. One I never knew and the other took his military service to the grave and I can almost guarantee his record was one of the 70% lost in the record building fire. Nobody in the family has any firm idea of what he did other than airborne jeep driver.

I was sorry that G'kar didn't get to see Na'toth again... that would have been lovely <3

I always toom the Morden scene as, this is exactly who he was at the end, but this is the day after; the day when his contract with The shadows has expired, rather than being their servant.

Also, Penn & Teller represent the humor that you don't get but everyone else thinks is hilarious. Lockley is represents the viewer with that point of view as well. Everyone is watching Rebo & Zooty and laughing hysterically, and Lockly (us) just looks on thinking 'this isn't funny'. The swing between serial stories, one-off ones, etc. is also a by-product of the on-again/off-again nature of Season 5. There are storylines that would have been brought forward into Season 4 or maybe developed in other ways. You throw in the whole TNT network wanting to grow viewership or set up spin-offs, and Season 5 ended up being a little disjointed. Good, but uneven.

"Tail me, what awaits us beyond this life?" Worf son of Mogh "I do not have those answer. I am merely a traveler; Someone who's merely passed bucking forth between this world and the next, while I'm in this form, I know only of this world." Kaluss the unforgettable Star Trek TNG S06E23 Just like Lida sent when she was in the Ranger's head when he died, "The only one that is supposed to know is the one dieing." We're not meant to know where we're living. The humanoid brain may be the most advanced organic super computer in in the universe, capable of storing an trillions of terrorists information. But the answer to the question of, "What lies beyond this life," is beyond comprehension.

Morden was correct though; Sheridan did die at Z'ha'dum.

Scott... you're right, but you're wrong. The different pieces did need more room/time to brathe, but Morden was THE BEST. That smooth, creepy voice. <3

Nicole: you NEEEED to watch / read Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett. both the book & the series are good, but you will also love the obvious shipping in the series <3 <3 <3

My apple crisp recipe: 6-8 applies, peeled and sliced; 1 c. apple juice; cinnamon; 1 c. white flour; 1 c. whole wheat flour; 1 c. oatmeal; dash of salt; 1/2 c. vegetable oil; 1/2 c. maple syrup or honey; 1 tsp. vanilla extract; place apple slices in a 9x12 glass pan, pour over juice and sprinkle over cinnamon, mix remaining ingredients together and crumble topping over apples, bake approximately 40 minutes in a 350°F/180°C oven

This premise was not focused on what the living person would say to the dead visitor if they had a chance. It was focused on what the dead visitor would say to the living if they could.

Mongolian Death Worm!

Londo's vignette in this episode is picked up in one of the novels, where (if I remember accurately) Vir gets a vision of Londo in the afterlife, finally happy and relaxed, accompanied by the two women who were most emotionally connected to him, Adeera and Timov.

Perhaps another interesting visitor could have been Sinclair to come back and speak to Lennier? He would have told him the exact same information but it may have hit differently from Valen.

No

So, Byron wants to start a colony for all telepaths. Including non-human? Do we ever get any sense that the alien telepaths have any issues on their homeworlds?

Did you guys forget when 'Day of the Dead' is actually supposed to take place? Or is there a specific reason you decided to do that one in release order instead of chronological order?

Remember on Macgyver when he got eaten by ants?

He was on an episode of Macgyver where he got eaten by ants. Pretty cool.

The (even more) messed up part of Lyta's flashbacks... that's a Vorlon weapons factory. We really were just things to them. Also, did anyone else see the reflections of the Vorlons in that scene? Creepy af.

Google Ed Wasser shirtless And ask yourself, what do you want? 😂

There's no way of looking at that scene. Rita is one of the most powerful telepaths in existence at this point in time. Combine that with Byron's and when they lost control all the other telepaths outside those curtains Couldn't block the images that those 2 were projecting. Everything you guys said about the Sci-Fi Genre. Reminds me of Writer Isaac Asimof said Sci-Fi is about. Answer all that pillow talk y'all been doing for the past 2 seasons of Babylon 5. I can only say. (WHAT.....WHAT THE HECK, am I Listening to. A podcast about Sci-Fi or about a bunch of horny Middle-agers?)

The biggest problem is that none of the other telepaths are given any dialog. They are like Daryl and the other brother Daryl. They make every scene with Byron wierd.

Summoning Ryan was quite the highlight.

My word for today is a triple NO. As a gen Z.... what is Oregon trail? Are we responsible for what our ancestors did? No, but we have an increased responsibility to prevent it from happening again. Sometimes we unfortunately completely miss the point and do the wrong thing for the right reason... I love that sci-fi is so political yet allegorical. Having not even been born when B5 aired, I actually learned a lot about the 90s because of this show. Beyond the Rim: Crusade is actually set after the telepath war, with the PsiCorps no longer in existence as before. So I don't know whether they could have gone more into this in later seasons, unless the address the fallout or use flashbacks. Nonetheless, I wish they'd shown the telepath war somewhere. Hope you'll cover Crusade one day!

Fun times! Fabulous Ryan cameo. Great podcast.

Thank you for your work.

You know, I may not agree with all the groups takes on B5 but damn if I don't agree with all your political views. Oh and I'm just not sure about those two Australian podcasters, they are an odd pair. :) Thank you all for your work.

You know you guys, I have a lot of appreciation and respect for you. All of you. I probably have even more respect and appreciation for you for the things that we might not agree on. It's something that I'm grateful for. But of late, there's something that has begun to make me a bit uncomfortable. And maybe I can count on all of you to be thoughtful enough to actually consider it and run it through your brain. But I have come to feel todd the way, not the fact, but the way in which people try to shine a light on injustices to minorities in the past has become another invocation of white privilege. Privilege. Particularly white male privilege, because in a lot of professions, women have been in minority too. I don't know what the chance is. Are of you guys having any kind of discussion about relating to the show from that lens before it ends. But I would look forward to listening to it.

Maybe I misunderstood, but weren't there two possible timelines in B5? We got two different futures in B squared and World Without End. Didn't we?

Voyeurisim? They're all telepaths. I dont think three inches of plate steel would've given Lyta and Byron any more privacy than that gauze curtain did😂

Spoilers below for stuff discussed "Beyond The Rim." The one thing about this show I have is a question of why many of the main characters never marry and have children. G'Kar (maybe, maybe not,) Ivanova, Franklin, Zack, Lochley just to name a few. More convenient or just JMS' dislike for marriage/mates? This came from the discussion on whether or not Franklin survives the show. Only Sheridan and Garibaldi have kids.

Sorry, still can't get behind Byron (no pun intended). 😁 Wow, the innuendo among the group for this episode might exceed the combined innuendo for all other episodes of the B5 series. The fifth grader in me could barely keep a straight face for half the podcast this week. BTW: My word of the day is "NO". Without the sex scene and Byron in general, the rest of this episode is pretty good. Byron still isn't wrong in what he feels is the problem, but his solution actually makes him more like Bester than he might like to admit. Bester is actually the more reasonable one now, in terms of he is still trying to work within the system humanity has going. Now, Byron is the more extreme of the two of them in terms of how he wants to solve the problem. Bester never asked for a planet. Ha, to one of Nicole's points: Are clowns Vorlons inside encounter suits? 🤣 That might explain why clowns are scary to so many people. To one of Justin's points: I have always considered Bester to be Magneto, as his stated mission the entire time is to further telepaths, not the rest of humanity. Much like Magneto wants to further mutants. Byron seems to keep to his own little group, and is only stepping out more now that he found out the Vorlon are responsible. To Jessie's comment, I have always thought of Byron as more of a Charles Manson figure... though maybe to a lesser extent. Byron may not be the one getting his hands dirty, but we can see the reaction of Byron's followers are not likely to remain non-violent. As Bester's underling, we don't know the true number of how many he killed before trying to be a pacifist. Lots of interesting questions raised. Humanity has been committing atrocities long before the USA was ever formed. History tends to repeat itself in cycles and the USA historical problems and those of today are just more of the same. Sure, the technology has advanced a lot (as have the weapons), and we should be smarter for it. But people are people, and tend to make the same mistakes even when they KNOW they are wrong... just like Londo did with the Narn. Londo knew it was wrong, but went on with it anyway, and nearly got both the Centauri and the Narn destroyed by it. I'll leave it there on this topic. The real question is can humanity learn form its mistakes and not repeat them (over and over again)? "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" Season 4 finale would imply that answer could be "No". How do we know that the human species has not nearly destroyed itself many times over, and that something like the Catholic Church has not had to help us rebuild with the help of the Rangers?

No wonder this episode was so long. The rant in the middle.

This podcast feels very cosy with such a tight-knit group of friends. I can imagine if any of them chose to make love with another, the rest would watch through a transparent veil smiling benignly.

how bout No

I can't wait to see Londo with the pink panties...