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Thanks for the sub. Right now the trail is probably the easiest it has ever been. I was running 4-Hi but probably could have run it in 2WD. There were AZ State Police at the top and bottom but I think they were really looking for people hauling trailers. There are signs saying 4WD required but like I said it was pretty easy going.

​@@Trail89AdventuresSuper helpful! I imagine if things got wet or muddy it'd be a different story! Feeling pretty confident we'll be just fine!

Thanks for the sub. This is a great trail. Had a lot of run running this. Definitely much less traveled than Montana Mountain. Scenery is fantastic. Have fun.

@@your_average_enthusiast yeah it certainly could be to remove liability or something. But even with it being so smooth right now, there are definitely people that should never even attempt going down that hill. lol.

Unfortunately I didn’t get to experience that. I did see where they bored a tunnel through the rock to allow the road over the dam. Has a big gate on it now but was open the day we ran it. Looks like they still use it for access.

Oh that is a cool story. Being up and so close to that part of the history. Appreciate you sharing that.

@@ianlaughlin85 I got to the petroglyphs coming from US60 on the north end. I have heard of people talk about issues entering from the west but we’re still able to get through. Sounds like you can’t now.

We exited that way and there was a do not enter sign right off the US60. That would be the easiest way though. ​@Trail89Adventures

@Trail89Adventures we just did the Apache Trail a couple days ago. I highly recommend it. 👍

@@ianlaughlin85 you can’t beat the scenery out there. It is just beautiful

@@ianlaughlin85 interesting. I haven’t been out in box canyon area for a while.

The road is super smooth. Not a pothole in sight. Not sure of the reasoning.

@@rickanna8662 you know it would have been super fun to record it but I didn’t. It all started as just a conversation on the side of the road. Cool guy though.

@@jlrecoder1 the trail starts where the pavement ends on AZ state Route 88 about 5.3 miles east of Tortilla Flat. The coordinates are 33.53797, -111.32504 hope that helps.

Thank you so much! I also just subscribed! Great video

@@jlrecoder1 awesome glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the sub

@@doza7520 probably an hour to an hour and a half each way.

@@Trail89Adventures Thank you so much! What a pretty ride!

Thanks. We had a great time out there. Enjoy your trip!

@@bobfincher1767 ballpark about 3 miles. Thanks for watching! The trail is actually closed at the moment due to the wildfires in the Superstition Wilderness.

@@Trail89Adventures planning to hike it when open

@@Viking_Kong talking to different people they all seem to think it has been there for a while but nonetheless it is not cool.

Yeah, it was super fun. Just glad you found the problem before you went out on the trail. It gets out there pretty far. Break down would not be cool.

@@davestevens3197 I don’t have any drone footage in my video….. the current project they are working on is to pave the road from Apache lake to Roosevelt dam. They have been working on it for a while and it isn’t finished yet. You will come across sections that are paved and sections that are going to be paved.

According to ADOT, the project completed to open the road as it is now, cost about $4M. The recommended alternative project is the $35M. This $35M project includes the following: (copied from ADOT website) The study team identified a Recommended Alternative that is a hybrid of the three main Build Alternatives and was presented to the public and stakeholders in August 2023 as ADOT’s Preferred Hybrid Alternative. It would provide the following benefits: -The roadway would be widened to a minimum of 15 feet on Fish Creek Hill -The roadway would receive a chip seal surface. -New colored (or painted) concrete barrier would replace existing guardrail on Fish Creek Hill. -The existing bridges would be repaired and rehabilitated to extend their service lives. -Several retaining walls would be constructed to avoid impacts to the wilderness area. -The drainage facilities would be upsized and increased to accommodate medium-large predicted storms. -Safety improvements would include new signs, reflectors, and pullouts to allow vehicles to pass in narrow sections. -Some rockfall improvements would be made. -The potential for environmental impacts is moderate based on the size of the disturbance area and potential for work outside the ADOT easement on Tonto National Forest Lands.

@@Trucker316 I grew up in PA but was too young to know the difference. With living out here now, there is so much opportunity to get out and see the beautiful landscape. I just enjoy the scenery. It never ceases to amaze me. Sorry to hear about your Mom. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks for watching! I am sure it will be busy this weekend.

@@cw50must the leaves on those trees were such a solid green it looked way out of place. But when they are that green, you know there is water.

@@wngimageanddesign9546 I can only assume trailers were ending up in problematic situations in the past.

Keeps less traffic I’d say

Well, the sign says 4-wheel drive is required so I can't recommend it.

Yes, done it many times over the years in 2WD/FWD. And now it's been graded and filled. The 4x4 requirement is stupid and if legally challenged, is also unlawful.

@@wngimageanddesign9546 wonder if this is just some type of liability thing?

@@Trail89Adventures Thanks, Bro😃✌

@@wngimageanddesign9546 Thanks

@@jess5252 the camera crew got a solid lunch and a beverage at Tortilla Flat

@@jess5252 Mav hooked us up with a couple of Coors Banquets

Actually it is definitely an alternate back way to Crown King. Thanks for watching

For sure AJ. Have a great trip!

@@keithmiller3422 it was an interesting part but was very impromptu. It started off as a general conversation on the side of the road that wasn’t being recorded. Maybe we will go back in the future.

@@justinstruyck9989 thanks for watching!

Not sure what you are referring to….what question?

@@Hawkermkii wasn’t bad at all. I figure this weekend will be busy though.

@@Trucker316 yeah it is a piece of cake right now. I am sure if we get a couple of good storms it will roughen it up a bit.

@@Trail89Adventures gotta hope for some rain then...lol

Yeah, had a great time. No expert here, just out having fun.

Never been on it with a dirt bike but definitely saw a few that day.

I posted this trail on the Trails Offroad app. If you use that app it will give you a GPS route of the entire trail, starting / ending points and you can use google maps to get you to the trailhead. The southern end of the trail ends right near the saloon.

These are the coordinates of the beginning of the trail. 35.99878, -115.44733

@@markjsram it is definitely a fun one that isn’t too difficult