Vinegar Hill | FULL MOVIE | Drama
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2023
- A teacher (Mary-Louise Parker, "Weeds") discovers that her in-laws have a loveless marriage after she and her family are forced to move in with them. A dark, rich character drama.
#drama #relationships #family #parents #inlaws #love #marriage #divorce #indie #dark #character - Фільми й анімація
No one really knows what goes on behind closed doors and a lot of family secrets are taken to the grave 😢
Here, Here
I know whopper's of family secrets. They're name would be headlines in some circles.
Family secrets kill. literally.
Because of narrow minded bigots, bad things happen , if good people, do nothing
Such a sad story but so good played by all the actors. What a difficult grandpa. Stay safe and Good Bless you all ..out of South Africa Erica olckers
Unfortunately, absolutely relatable and the trauma I'm trying to heal. I've been on this healing journey going on 3yrs. 😥
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❤ keep fighting your a surviver 🎉
Be strog,my friend.You're going to make it through...🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🥰🥰🥰
yep. Been on it for most of the last 55
@@fairmaiden6472..have you not found Jesus through it? He makes it easier..truely He does..He's not uniquainted with what we've been through.
There are lots of families around the world whose lives are portrayed in this movie. Perhaps it's a good idea to let all ES and HS pupils see it so that they can be able to recognize and understand the nature of ABUSE, and abusive relationships. It may allow authorities to rectify it before it becomes caustic to the point of destroying lives forever.
I absolutely agree with you!
There are many forms of abusive. Sometimes it's one parent never asking about a child's day or looks that hurt, just that. I hated it when my father took me along hunting. Wet marsh grass, two of his brothers talking about things that made me cringe, then there was the bloody news of the day spread out on the utility room floor. I so disliked helping my father skin a rabbit. I finally said something to my mother. She must have mentioned it to my father; he never asked me along again and that was fine with me.
My father had this booming voice. He seldom said anything at supper and when he did it was as if he were yelling across a river. My younger brother would concur. Once when I closed the door of the bedroom that I shared with my brother so I could listen to a record, my father shouted, "Leave the door open!" I said, "You have the television turned up so loud I can't hear what I'm listening to," and closed the door. My father stomped across the living room and pushed the door of our bedroom open. "I said leave it be!" "Why?" I said and he pushed me into a corner and raised one of his big fists as if he were going to hit me. I said, defiantly, "Go ahead, hit me." I was eleven years old.
Our father moved us from one town to another. We attended a number of schools. I went to three high schools and four elementary schools. It was like that for my younger brother too.
My father's idea of teaching me to swim was to throw me into a lake. The swim or sink method. I almost drowned. My mother said at the time, "What were you thinking!" Just before we moved from southern Indiana to Sunland, California in 1961, I asked my mother if we were really going to move to California. She said, "I think so, but your father has to think it's his idea." Then she added, "You don't have to share that with anybody but your brother." Our younger sister would have said something to daddy.
Our father never asked us to go to work with him, always on Saturday. He just said, "Get up. You're going to work today." I put up with it until I was eighteen. One morning I failed to rise and he poured a glass of cold water on my face to wake me." Such experiences was one of the reasons I joined the service, that and I knew I would be drafted right out of high school. Sadly, my younger brother had to deal with him while I was away, but I heard all about it when I was home on leave. It is no surprise that neither of us boys married.
Three weeks before our father died, he asked me to make him a BLT. I was so unkind to him and said, "I have somewhere to go this morning" and left. My father was very ill at the time. I think about that sandwich after all of these years. We don't get do-overs.
My father was only 62 when he passed away. Thought of his death hardly impacted me or my brother. Our mother lived to be 95. She made up for our father's aloofness. She made day an adventure. It's been nearly fourteen years since she died and still we replace the flowers on her grave every week. She is buried in the Catholic cemetery in San Luis Obispo, California. Our father is buried near the small rural village where he grew up. He would often leave and then come back. He was a rambling guy, our old man. We have visited his grave once since 1972.
@@nickandmikec ... (Almost) Southern Hoosier girl here, Terre Haute. I'm so sorry you went through all that! I don't know what makes some people so extremely difficult to live with. There are some video's on YT that I find to be of help, Dr. Les Carter, Dallas Tx & Dr Ramani. I wish you a joy-filled life. 😇
@@nickandmikec..ah..I could hear the damage your dad did to you boys. His behaviour was mean & bullying..he was only caring about himself & your mother didn't defend you either.
I so dislike hearing such stories..I feel the hurt people go through & it really bristles me that most children just have had to suffer so much!!😅
@@nickandmikec love to you ❤
This was a very powerful movie about multi-generational abuse. 😢
Wow, what a movie! Sad but powerful. Thanks for sharing! Blessings to all in love and light!🙏🏼💜🙏🏼💙🙏🏼🧡🙏🏼💛🙏🏼💚🙏🏼
At least You don't like happy faces
The movie was a horror flick that represents to many of our lives. The better part was reading the comments after watching. What we grew up with, as normal, has been shaded from what made us who we are; good and bad and extremely sad!
Are so right. Life in the 60's and 70's have so many secrets that were nothing but horror movies, but real life. 😢
@@carolynbeguing7462you're so right about the 60s and 70s and the crazy things that happened to kids with no one to protect them in fact if you spoke up then everybody said you were the trouble caused her and stop causing trouble for your great family. When they didn't even know the real truth what was going on and when you tried to tell them they close their ears whether it was school, the police, pastors... It didn't really matter if you were a kid and you went to an adult for things then the other adults around you would find a way to nullify that person's help for you. They were usually told to stay out of it and that it was a family matter 🤔☹️✌️❤️🌌🌠🫵
@@shawneenhammer4241 It's still happening today. I know a woman who keeps her 4 grandchildren and abuses them. She makes them do all the housework, and she seems to get a thrill from hitting them, sending them to bed hungry, or making them get up late at night on a school night because the bathroom wasn't clean enough. A teacher reported her because she saw a bruise on a child's leg. They came out to check it out but saw how clean the house was; looked around a bit but never questioned the children and left. Their mother is now free to try to get them back. They are small children. Please pray their mother can get them back. I thought, how sad. They thought everything was fine because the house was clean, and it was those babies that were forced to clean it. She's been called on a few times, but nothing ever happens to her. She kicked one of her own sons out when he was 16. He has scars on his back from a wire clothes hanger.
@@shawneenhammer4241poor you 😢
Yeah, reality is a lot more horrific than fiction. Hope you are remembering to stay positive anyway and have a great day. You need you.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I always thought my father was a hateful old man but learned the reason he despised us girls (six of us) is because he was the oldest of five sisters and my grandfather, a VERY mean drunk who died of liver cirrhosis before I was born, doted on them and brutally beat my dad daily for who knows why. I always thought he hated us but he always provided for the family, two boys and us six girls, THAT was the only way he knew how to love us. I love you dad, thanks for doing your best❤
Wow.. Thanks for sharing, "I Love you Dad, thanks for doing your best." (It was one of the best moments in my life life when I forgave my dad. He was only doing what he knew how to do which was learned from his childhood and his own experiences).
15 minutes in and can't go on.
The father ( Skerrit) would have got beatdown with a 2 x 4.
What a self centered malicious and unhappy pos !
Holy Guacamole...Talk about Triggers! I'm surprised he didn't Snap! I on the other hand was Raised by a Dad who was the youngest of 3 Boys than my Aunt came when he was 10...my Grandma Doted on her and my Dad was no longer Babied by his Mommy! I looked like my Aunt when I was little...my Parents had 4 kids by 26 y.o...and my Dad took his Stress out on me and my Bare Body with a Board! 😳😭😡🤢
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He your dear dad ... sounds like a gent he least he tried hes best hes best is all he could do ..🎉
If you want to get totally depressed, watch this movie. Good acting, interesting twist, but so, so sad.
Yea, not a bit of fun!
Thanks for the warning. I've more than enough drama in my life--don't need anyone else's on top of it.
Thank you very much for the warning! I lived through a crappy marriage (no longer in it)...I don't want to watch a movie about one. You have a great day! 🎁🎉
@@louisaisthankful4603 I’m sorry to hear about your marriage. I’m glad you’re out of it! You have a great day, too! ❤️
It’s all about perspective, sure it was sad but then makes one realize there’s always something to be hopeful about.
There's no way I'd ever leave my kids with them FREAKS! I could tell right away something very wrong in that house!!!☠☠☠☠☠
When first arriving at the farm, the old goat pushed his son and daughter-in-law away like they were lepers when they tried to hug him.
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Wow. I'll never complain about my family again, that's for sure.
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Powerful. Tom Skerritt is a master of acting.
Aleve is working for him
The broken ballerina with a pivotal spot in this movie. Just like the broken unicorn in Tennessee Williams story “ The Glass Menagerie”. The ballerina meant something very deep to the grandmother. Why didn’t he finish that subplot? And the dog. What are we left to believe? And once again the Sheriff is left pining for the girl that he has always loved.
The doll . . .who cares? The guy pining for the married woman ... thats just proper. The dog? Thats the most important part, you see. But being old and getting hit with shot, he probably didnt make it. Though I hope he did .
Any more added to the story and there would have had to be a "part 2" to this movie.
If anyone would have stood up to that cowardly, vicious, old man, preferable before he married that poor woman and made her life and her children's lives hell on earth, it might have broken the cycle. Where was the sheriff of that town, he had to know? Where was the priest, he had to know? Where were the school authorities, they had to know? The people that had the authority and power to stop the abuse didn't. Shame on them. Heartbreaking movie.
All those people you mention are corrupt and make things worse, not better. Why do people look to 'authorities' to make their lives better? That's why they never get better.
I often ask these questions about my own life
The priest? Get a Baptist preacher in there.
I grew up like this, but the perp was the mother. So evil, it's difficult to comprehend and I don't know how my sibs and i survived her. I do say my mother was even more violent and what was worse, no one cared, or were to scared to scare. When I went to school with bruises and teachers would ask me what happened, I would say that my mother did it. Every single time, they would ask, what did you do to make her so angry. The Truth? I woke up and breathed. That's was enough for the hate to come spewing out.
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l call BS.. teachers are required to report..
get some help.
Thomas Skerrit (aka the father) He gives a very strong performance in this film
Yah
@@artisthusnatalal3099 I live in Bklyn Vinegar Hill area
Loved it!
She'll always be Ruth to me❣️ I love Mary Louise Parker 👏🏼
How could that father/husband even think of bringing his family to that house? I brought my 10 yr old son home to my parents house for Christmas one year. Never again! What was I thinking?!
Oh, wow... That must have been an awful, sad, and traumatic experience. 😢 As Maya Angelou said, "When you know better, you do better." God bless 🙏 you and your son!!!
Lots of people in abuse don't recognize it as abnormal.
Exceptional movie! Thanks for presenting it.
What an amazing ending ! I wouldnt have figured it all out in a 100 years . Excellent, how the story resolved in 20 minutes.
Tom Skerrit was a master actor. He was the father in A River Runs Through It. I only wish I knew for sure that Buddy made it, the poor soul . And who is that girl who plays the wife ??? I've seen that face somewhere . Well, I looked it up : she was in Fried Green Tomatoes . She is sooo pretty !!!
She’s in weeds mary Louise parker
Ruth in Fried Green Tomatoes
Wow, this movie is so good. And it's so eerily similar to events in my life. I don't think I've ever seen a movie that made me feel such intense emotion and I'm only 30 minutes in. Seeing the mother cry in bed made me start balling. I even got a little choked up when the dad was yelling about his peace and quiet.
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I looked up the reviews on this movie and the ratings are horrible. It has 1.5-3 stars everywhere. Looking at comments and my own opinion those rating do not reflect what people really think about this movie.
I agree with you. I have 42 years in the Mental Health Field and this movie was very powerful and very moving. And I was never abused, but I've counseled many abused adults.
I feel sorry for anyone who can relate to that movie.
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Don't put much stock in ratings
I think there are things in this movie that will be familiar to many people
Why would the parents bring the kids to live with such an abusive granddad.
They probably thought by now he would’ve been a more docile humane person by now sometimes people change for the better sometimes they just get worse not everybody stays like a bitter old person
Remember,he never really told her about his past 🤷♀️ I think he was too ashamed,jmo 😏🤷♀️
He never told his wife about the abuse and also they were financially unstable. If you can't afford to feed your family the first thing that comes into your mind is...let's go to grandma or grandpa...
38 minutes in and I am really upset: WHAT THE HECK is wrong with that mother?? Those in-laws of hers are horribly damaged people that are not to be trusted, and she runs off to her friends house and leaves the kids there alone with them??? She should take them EVERYWHERE with her: Grocery shopping, her friends, everywhere.
Yup I agree. She was a self centered twit.
It is very sad to see anyone being treated less than they deserve...kids growing up in homes full of abuse and violence....i see to many stories about this ever single day....unfortunately allot of abused children take this trauma into adult relationships or struggle with anger issues..i wish these movies and others like it could be a class when students are old enough to understand....we have history lessons about the past ...isn't it more important to fix a future?.....all children should know what love is...young and old... we need more programs to teach real life scenarios...GOD BLESS all his children.
Reading thru comments after watching movie…I agree but with positive spin on takeaway. Sure the family was very dysfunctional and things aren’t always what they seem (happy couple before they moved in with them). The man was a scared child. The y were all broken because of their secrets, especially the old man. But the ending, the couple went through that necessary painful process for a chance to not repeat history. It was either them reuniting or the wife just moving on…probably hauling her kids with her this time because living with her mom was the better option. I preferred for her to be with the sherif but she loved her husband and seen the good in him but he had hint of dad in him.
Wow. This was such a great movie!
Oh my goodness, Tom Skerritt’s performance was POWERFUL! I’m going to have to go watch a few episodes of Cheers with Edmond Drake or Steel Magnolias to see him as Drum Eatenton so I can see his beautiful side again. LOL. This is a compliment to him and his full range of acting talent. Wow! 🦫
Wow !!!! That was a good movie ! Who knows what happens in some houses ???? Thanks for sharing and excellent actors !
Sad thing is, their are people like that, and people that go through that kind of thing. And keep the secrets, hold the pain in. What a sad srory. 😔
Yes, there are people like that, unfortunately.
I have never seen this movie before! It was so heartbreaking, it was truely horrifying what the whole family went through. Very good movie to watch. 😮
Just finished the book looked to see if to see if there was a movie
Heartbreaking story,dysfunctional family and mentally ill people doing wicked evil deeds and getting covered up by family members. Our families and childhoods can really mess us up.great cast. Im still confused why the perfume bottle incident was never mentioned or even the outcome of the dog. Why add to the story without the closure of it? Writers overlooked those items and a few more.
Perhaps the writers chose to leave out closure. In reality, few who survive those circumstances actually find closure.
@@susankeith326So true.
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Absolutely why I came to the comments! Good movie but so many loose ends that I wanted to see tied up.
I barely watched 14 min of movie., (I HAD TO STOP., they were so mean/ugly)., but I just thought maybe bcuz the way she acted about the perfume bottles were enuff to show her very uncaring, snobbish attitude AND then also maybe the same as far as the dog goes., maybe just "parts" to show us viewers what kind of mean folks they were.. movie IS so depressing and I've been sad enuff these last 2 nights..
Where is the dog?
This movie confirms that before you marry into a family you should examine closely what the family dynamics are....that is if you would want to marry into a family as dysfunctional as this one.
Water seeks its own level, people are attracted to what is familiar, meaning they both sides of the fence is dysfunctional.
I made that mistake 😔, not living the dream
👍 Great movie with all my favorite actors.
The ballerina accident wasn't a subplot as much as evidence of relationship breakdown where the children and parents are developing a chasm in the unit with secrets.
Excellent articulation!! 👍👍
I'm not even 10 minutes in on this film, and already getting so triggered by the senior dad and mom. I couldn't put up with that 1 night! I'd have had our kids and us out if there by the next morning! If I made it that long! I'd rather our family sleep in our car and work things out another way than live with these people!
Some..maybe lots of people...should never procreate. Many of us know this fact about our parents. We compensate..make excuses..but narcissism and mental illness in general predominates many families.
I always felt that i had been adopted. I was the youngest of 3. I was ignored except for my dads mom. She treated me with such overwhelming love it made me who i am today. She was mocked by my family so in turn i am her now in their eyes and am ignored once again. I at least have God in my heart. They do not know him.
@@willaknotts1298Amen God's always with us. I'm I have no siblings and my mom passed 2 years ago..God is my strength. Many blessings to you
@@willaknotts1298 whenever you think youre alone, youre not..
if you ever doubt your worth, know that you are So important..! and knowing you had love (gma) is the deepest gift.. what a wonderful thing you had in your life! blessings and well-wishes from a stranger on the iNet..
Father mentally distributed....inflicted a lot of abuse physically, emotional, and verbally on his own sons, wife, animals, grandchildren etc.
A very good and most important movie imo! Made a great impact on me! All the characters are characterized with great ambitions done by real good actors that never fails your imagination in how it works in real situations in the reality of life even though there could be challenges you want to change or overcome but if you bend as a willow tree it breaks you in the end of the process when you’re not willing to see with open heart, mind and soul. At the end you have to meet the facts of your two blindfolded eyes and got to understand and being aware of why you choose to live your life in the shadow be caused by all secrets bond to carry, heavy on your shoulders and mind. Be mindful, truthful and transparent to yourself as well as to others, supports the great Love in you! Loved this movie
I grew up in a dysfunctional home like that. Once I became an adult, I got professional help and was able to put a stop to the cycle of abuse before I had my kid. Best decision I ever made!
You want all the pain to come Rollin back, just go back home. Never seen Tom Skerritt in a movie, that i didn't love him till now. What a horrible man he portrayed. I love Tim Guinee.
I have to agree with you. I don't know how he could take on this part!!😢
Parents who need mental illness help can destroy the lives of their children and their husband or wife. If the sick cannot be helped get the hell away from them. Do what it takes to escape their reach. Get help for yourself and don't repeat the same abuse you endured growing up. Do what you can to support, educate your community, and to help and shelter the abused.
Only 6 mins in and I must say Betty Buckley aged very well:)
Another Great one! Thanks hun.
Why did they kill off the dog 🐕? He was the only one that had any sense.
wow! what a powerful movie!! happens in reality in many families!!! beautiful movie!
This is so sad because we have all seen awful situations in families.
I grew up in worse violence, non-stop, all day long, but it was the mother. How we survived her, I will never know.
yep Domestic Violence it causes much sorrow.. but Jn 8:36 he will free you
I know a lot of people listed here liked this movie but, to me, this movie did not hold up. When it ended I thought "that's it?" I know there are a lot of dysfunctional families out there but the writers of this movie did not make this story believable. Any mother would have taken her children out of that house when the dog was purposely shot.
Excellent drama. Many thanks for the upload.
wow .... that was difficult to watch ...mean old man
after all that all i could think about was ...." i hope the dog is ok "
at least he was at the vets, and not just buried.. shooting a sick animal is one thing, but a happy dog running around in the grass.. made me hate Tom Skeritt! lol..
They never mentiined the dog again after tge vet visit and we never see him again..i suppose we are to draw our own conclusions .bad writing..
This movie was such a downer, so depressing, that I need to find a Jerry Lewis movie somewhere to see if I still have a good laugh left in me.
Jerry Lewis was a narcissist who abusee his own.
Sad but true for so many families.
We may have seen a similar storyline before but with the beautiful actors, good acting, good scenery it was an excellent movie... 🎉
This was a wonderful movie full of human emotion and complexity.
He should have never allowed his family to move back there. He was a sad, broken man, just like his dad.
Abusive people suck the air out of a room.
Good story, great acting. Thanks.
Great acting!
❤WONDERFUL MOVIE!
Good movie that old man needed his butt kicked what a mean person.The dog part made me sad I wish that part wasn't in the movie.Thanks for this one❤
I agree on both things .
Great movie 👍👍
This is a great and sad 😔 movie.well worth wstching
For once a pretty good american movie on inner conflicts in a rigorous family with old manners of farmers.
Happy to have watched it. I liked thin psyche analysis of every character.
Tks for the up load.
Love Old-school films! Real cinema ...worth the torrure with adds..
Great movie.
Exceptional you all are in your vision,commitment and hard hard work inside and out. Huge respect and admiration for all that you have achieved and keep on keeping on. I just saw the blue paint samples in the latest project and think the very vibrant aqua en masse will be overwhelming, perhaps more teal like the peacock and chesnut teal duck feather colours, somewhat warmer but very rich. In other words a green blue that is a warm base (yellow) not a cool base (blue ). My humble opinion is as if a future inviting room for guests.
Regards Shaelene Read Australia.
These kind of movies bring back memories of my childhood that I am trying to erase!!.Wishful thinking😢😢😢
Mary Louise Parker can do no wrong. I love everything she plays!!!! ❤❤❤❤
Real good movie. Loved her in Fried Green Tomatoes and love her in this movie. My neighbor beat his children for years. I keep waiting for his crazy son to show what a monster he really is. I know one day he'll turn on his monster of a father. Some monsters are born that way and some are made. And just like this mother she just watched the monster abuse her children for years. Even his mother and brother would run when he started beating them. No one but me tried to stop him but it did no good. The courts did nothing until she finally took her children and left and I was vindicated because the court knew I was telling the truth...
Wow great acting.
*The movie gave me a headache from them driving here and there, talking too much during food time, wife, husband trying to force affairs that never worked, abusive grandpa......WHAT A SAD STORY / LIFE* 😪😩
GREAT movie.
Some people live way to long n hurt way too many!
Incredible movie 🍿
that was so beautiful movie the kids were awesome too
Going the distance with someone else at the sign of trouble in the marriage - NEVER, NEVRE WORKS,,,, ESPECIALLY WITH KIDS AT HOME.
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Dad shoots your dog and then you sit down to supper? What actual human would react like that? The ballerina perfume bottle disappears and Grandma doesn't notice? The director's solution is to just drop this subplot from the film. What is Parker doing in this mess?
The doll wasnt so important, I dont think. I did hope that when that bastard shot the dog, the man had knocked him to the ground, the way the old man had done to him. I know that if he shot my dog he'd get his head knocked off . I hope the poor little mutt made it .
A lot can be explained in the psychology of trauma and yes agree that the broken doll theme was left hanging.
First 10 minutes reminded me of deliverance. Couldn't take anymore.
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Wow, that is dark and powerful and scary--how chained and muddled we can be by our past. I have never felt so angry in a movie at injustice.
interesting enough to watch until the end.
Reminds of childhood. Now someone strikes with words or actions I strikeback!!
Amen 👍
very good movie
--- After reading comments, I chose not to watch. I am from major dysfunctional family, & suffer today from relationsjip anxiety, OCD, ADHD & PTSD. Father committed suicide, so I'm onto a happier movie...
Don't watch it. I'm gonna have to binge watch The Walton's for a couple days.
Dziękuję. Warto obejrzeć. Mądry z sensem.
The actor playing the husband of the young family, looks just like Michael J Fox. Uncanny
Jason Bateman as well
neither.
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Uh, no
I read this book about a year ago and it was one of my favorite books ever! The movie doesn’t do the book any justice! The books are typically better, but the only books I’ve read that the movies lived up to were The Harry Potter Series and Bridgerton❤
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After reading these comments, I am quite reluctant to watch this movie.
Tom Skerrit is a great actor.
I love these family focused movies , they are so great! Depicting loads of different caracters, females who are crazy murderers, evil girls, stuff we dont see anymore. W a clear message of good vs evil and comming together beeing strong by supporting oneanother.
Thank you for sharing this video UA-cam.
I'm 12 minutes in and riled up...
I feel blessed at least half my family growing up were reasonable adults..🦖🤔
My goodness, what a movie 😳
Teachers, police and many others are mandated reporters. Hopefully this only goes this far in the movies.
Well that was terrible . So much sorrow and misery . Glad the son could forgive and move on . He does have a chance now . 😢☹
*Highly recommend...very dramatic and excellent story and acting! Wow!*
Mary Louise Parker was awesome in the movie.. The Client.. playing The mother of the young boy and Susan Sarandon played a attorney and was great..
Well, that was disturbing.
Such beautiful MLP...
Coming from Chicago to Wisconsin is a treat ❕️😂
Well done unexpected!
Really really sad but he finally had a good turn . !! My dad was a bully not as bad but I still hurt as an older lady but when he got dementia I was there called him every day and supported him cuz I love Jesus and i think he at the end saw I was good ...
It's rare to find writers who aren't rich parents full of guilt about neglect. All the interactions they present between parents and children are false and contrived, where the parent acts as best friend and clown to show "love". Parents are themselves around their children mainly because their duties to them run deep and serious, but also because children have mighty bullsh*t radars. Parents who love their kids know them well.
The grandmother was strange too.
@@heatherfulmore3412 How could she not be? She was traumatized and controlled for decades. Even strong relationships rarely survive the impact of death of a child. The parents frequently feel guilty and/ or blame one another..
@@susankeith326 it seemed as if the husband blamed her for the deaths of children. I guess that he was lying as usual.