Is Christianity A Copy Of Egyptian Religion? | The Bisrat Podcast w/ Dr. Vince Bantu

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  • @thehousehold1508
    @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому +23

    You have two historians (Christian and a Kemetic practitioner) that agree that Christianity wasn’t copied from Kemetic religion. I’ll take it ✌🏾

  • @joshuarush-garrison8417
    @joshuarush-garrison8417 2 роки тому +10

    So grateful for Dr. Vince Bantu and all the work he does. The amount of information that I learn just from videos like this is amazing.

  • @rosestephen6789
    @rosestephen6789 2 роки тому +10

    This was really good and we need to continue this conversation because a lot of our men are weaved into Egypt worship.

  • @MsSajenkins
    @MsSajenkins 2 роки тому +4

    I am loving this series and gaining so much knowledge! Thank you!

  • @catlinhollow
    @catlinhollow 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Dr. Siuda. Wise words, as always.

  • @kermithughes896
    @kermithughes896 11 місяців тому

    Thank you this was so interesting. I appreciate the grace and respect you showed Dr. Bantu. I learned a lot. Thank you to your guest Ms. Siuda for the clear information. It was a blessing to hear and learn.

  • @CoachMikeD
    @CoachMikeD 2 роки тому +3

    Dope convo

  • @Blackie6063
    @Blackie6063 2 роки тому +4

    This is Real Scholarship

  • @thehousehold1508
    @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому +1

    I love it! Great dialogue

  • @SojournerJase
    @SojournerJase 2 роки тому +4

    Are the similarities down to mere coincidence then??

    • @TheLionFarm
      @TheLionFarm 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Uz49mbDVwM4/v-deo.html ^

  • @skywatchers9675
    @skywatchers9675 11 місяців тому

    @19:21 polytheist egyptians were fprced to coovert and had their idols and temples destroyed .
    The pagan Emperor Julian castigates the Christians for deserting their pagan faith
    The city of Alexandria during the 4th and early 5th century and in fact Egypt in general was arguably one of the most volatile places in the Roman Empire in terms of religion. During the late Roman period - from around 350CE to around 420 CE - the city had changed in character quite dramatically.
    There was a rapid move away from the classical hellenic culture and beliefs of the time towards an enforced Christianity on the orders of the Christian Roman Emperors. And so Greco-Roman temples and shrines gave way to churches and monasteries with black robed monks and fanatical Christians patrolling the cities smashing any pagan shrines and other signs of pagan presence and heritage.
    John of Nikiu was a 7th century Coptic Egyptian Christian bishop and chronicler who describes the situation in the reign of Theodosius during the late 4th century as violence towards pagans and paganism increased.
    ”And in those days [the reign of Theodosius] the orthodox inhabitants of Alexandria were filled with zeal and they collected a large quantity of wood and burned the place of the heathen philosophers.”
    So how did this turbulent situation come about? Let’s take a look at what was happening in Alexandria during the 4th Century and in particular the opinion of the pagan Emperor Julian towards the Christians in the city as this destruction of pagan heritage began in earnest. Julian could perhaps see the way things were going and he writes a powerful letter to the Christians there haranguing them for their faithlessness to their pagan roots and their interest in this new-fangled and aggressive cult ie Christianity fashioned from the Jewish belief.
    Growing intolerance in Alexandria
    But first a very quick background into the history of the city of Alexandria and how it got into this volatile state. The city was founded by Alexander the Great around 700 years earlier in 331BCE and by the Roman period it had become one of the most populous and well regarded cities with many great sites including the mausoleum of Alexander, the Great…
    Create an account to read the full story.
    medium.com/flavius-claudius-julianus/the-intolerance-of-the-alexandrian-christians-towards-the-pagans-345579ddc171

  • @lornathesewist
    @lornathesewist 2 роки тому

    learnt alot, so insightful. thank you

  • @rodneykendrick775
    @rodneykendrick775 2 роки тому +1

    All religions is rooted in African myths and folklore. The aspect of transference of one character attribute to a new character can be found within the book itself.
    In the old testament there is the story of Joseph. Joseph was a prototype for Jesus.
    1. Joseph was born of a miracle birth, Jesus was born of a miracle birth
    2. Joseph was of 12 Brothers, Jesus had 12 disciples
    3. Joseph was sold for 20 pieces of silver, Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver
    4. Brother Judah suggests the sale of Joseph, disciple Judas suggested the sale of Jesus
    5. Joseph begins his work at the age of 30, Jesus begins his work at the age of 30 etc. etc.
    The truth is The information
    has come to us rather through the Hebrew not from them...

  • @SojournerJase
    @SojournerJase 2 роки тому +4

    Could it be that satan knew that Jesus was coming so through kemet tried to make Jesus look like a copy and not the Truth and the Life and the Way that He is, diverting people from the gift of salvation and the freedom from sin and its consequeces??

    • @thehousehold1508
      @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому +2

      But they are not a copy. Go back to when the lady was talking about Osiris and Horus. That’s definitely not Jesus of Nazareth

    • @SojournerJase
      @SojournerJase 2 роки тому +1

      @@thehousehold1508 I think there are similarities though but they are not exactly the same hence why I said "to make Jesus look like a copy"

    • @thehousehold1508
      @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому +1

      @@SojournerJase yeah I mean I’m sure if you look hard you can find similarities in almost everything.
      I’m sure there’s a Mexican man named Jesuś who died at the age of 30/33 who has a mother named Mary and who had several siblings.
      I agree with you

    • @SojournerJase
      @SojournerJase 2 роки тому +2

      @@thehousehold1508 I hear you. I think it's good to have a conversation about these things just to clear up any question's.
      Your right, you can find similarities in alot of things.
      I think given that people use this similarity to disprove another religion and stray people away from Christ as Saviour its primitive that any misconceptions are dealt with as peoples souls are on the line.

    • @TheLionFarm
      @TheLionFarm 2 роки тому

      Clarification
      ua-cam.com/video/Uz49mbDVwM4/v-deo.html

  • @theBattleDon
    @theBattleDon 2 роки тому +11

    There are similarities between Christianity and the religion of the Mvskoke (indigenous tribe of southeastern America)...so I guess Christianity stole from them too 😑

    • @thedude9941
      @thedude9941 2 роки тому +7

      There are similarities in almost everything in the world, doesn't mean that it's stolen that's just a complete logical fallacy.

    • @theBattleDon
      @theBattleDon 2 роки тому +4

      @@thedude9941 my point exactly.

    • @viviennebaptiste
      @viviennebaptiste 2 роки тому

      @@theBattleDon what were u trying to explain

    • @theBattleDon
      @theBattleDon 2 роки тому +1

      ​Peace @@viviennebaptiste basically, I am convinced that similarities (and differences, especially regarding Scriptural Christianity) among spiritual systems throughout world history confirm the Scriptural account of God assigning certain suprahuman creatures to be gods over the nations after the Tower of Babel event.
      I believe Dr. Bantu would agree.
      I didn't know about these types of things until I seen some spiritual practices/beliefs first hand in various countries and began the research resulting in my book on Worldview Warfare.

  • @rodneykendrick775
    @rodneykendrick775 2 роки тому +2

    It is commonly stated in Weston circles particularly Judaism Christianity and Islam that approximately 6000 years ago The Jewish God Jehovah. The Christian God Jesus The Christ and the Islamic God Allah. Created this world. Which is a very difficult thing for me to understand when you consider
    That 6000 years ago Africans
    Along the Nile we’re doing engineering, Science, law, medicine and a host of other disciplines. [“Yet the world wasn’t here yet”] I simply don’t know what world they were operating under... But then let us explore Who could’ve possibly brought about The concept of an Adam and eve sense it is only in Judaism Christianity and Islam you finding these two Mythological characters. Sense it is that we find it for the first time in the Hebrew Bible.or Jewish bible. A Book called the Pentateuch “means the first five books of the Bible. These books are Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The word Pentateuch comes from two Greek words that mean "five books" or "five scrolls". According to tradition, the books were written by the Israelite leader, Moses.”
    “Jewish tradition calls the five books Torah (Teaching, Law) because of the centrality of the Sinai covenant and legislation mediated through Moses.”
    We will find that the Jews presented this for the first time to the world. We must then find who are the Jews that presented it?
    Since all the Jews did not write it.
    The first time we are to have the Adam and Eve concept comes out of the jewish intellectual circle. A system called the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin put out that book or started to write that book in approximately 700 BC. And completed at around 500 BC.
    The person to whom they gave credit for the story Of bringing it to the world The concept of Jehovah
    The Jewish God Yahweh was a man called “Abrm” Who changed his name to “Abraham”. Assuming, we must assume as he stated that an angel of this God came to him in his sleep In a dream. (Sidenote you will find that all of the profits got their messages in a dream) and all of the writers receive their state of information in a dream. Not a solitary one was sober at the time or at a state of consciousness....
    Now we find that Abraham was not born until approximately 1775 BC. This would put Abraham birth somewhere between (The 13 dynastic) Period of the African of the Nile Valley. Meaning then if we are to use the chronological data
    Of most western Europeans writers Who gave the first dynastic period Anywhere between 5000 BC to about 3100 BC. We will find then that At least the first dynasty Of the Africans
    Was at minimum “1500 years” before the birth of the first Jew Abraham. More so that Abraham himself, based upon the Jews along With his own parents Were worshiping and African goddess by the name of “Hatha And its Ancient Mystical Teaching.”
    Symbolized by a cow with a sunburn but tween her Horn’s.
    The sun this symbolizing
    Amen Ra
    The God of the ancient Africans of the Nile Not only Kemet “Egypt”
    Amen Being the God of the north and Ra being the God of the south
    When Norma the king of the north Fort King Scorpion The south was defeated Scorpion joining the two states into one making one Egypt or the beginning of dynastic Egypt. That combination of the two states bringing the two Combinations of God together
    Amen/Ra AmeRa created for the Egyptians and others in that area
    A single unity a single deity by the name of AmenRa.
    Now the African along the Nile And in Particular Egypt Had already worshiped a God by the name of Ptah. Ptah was the God prior to the first dynasty. And a prominent God up until the third dynasty. Sometime around the third dynasty we find that the ancient African of Kemet otherwise called Egyptians today
    Introduced another God and that was the God AmenRa .
    But let’s go further, along with the introduction of AmenRa
    Was other sources of information
    Relating to Deity. One it was at this time that the African revise
    Their sacred book, their Bible A book called “The coming forth by day and by night”
    To which an English man by the name of Ernest A Wallis Budge
    In his translation of the writings
    One of the most ancient writings today by the Africans a writing that’s called hieroglyphic.
    Budge Translation Did not take the literary of the title. They took a title that would Draw attention and they called it “Egyptian book of the dead”

  • @mytgirl123
    @mytgirl123 10 місяців тому +1

    Christians approach this subject matter with research or books that confirms their deeply held biases. If we look at this from an archeological perspective, humanity begin in Africa specifically Kemet and the Nile Valley. As humans began to migrant and establish civilizations around the world, they took pieces of African spiritual systems to create their own. For example, Hinduism and Buddhism share characteristics with Kemetic Philosophy. Even traditional African spiritual systems such as Voodoo Ifa and Yoruba which are native to West Africa can trace its origins to Kemet and the Nile Valley. It's the origin of humanity and the birth place of all spiritual ideas, yet Christians assert that Christianity was original??? Human history shows that every concept or idea had an original source.
    Secondly, western scholars have a misunderstanding of the Egyptian or Kemetic concept of God. People see that they have multiple deities and assume they worshiped them. This is due to the political propaganda spewed from the Catholic Church and American evangelicals, but also 19th century Western academics who sought to promote the idea that Africa was savage and primitive to construct a white supremacist frame in world history.
    In actuality, the kemetic people were monotheistic and understood that nature in itself was a physical manifestation of God. Monotheism in Egypt predates Christianity by at least 8,000 years. Their deities served as symbols to represent the various aspects of one supreme God within the physical world.
    It wasn't until the Greeks( who were students in Kemet) and Ptolemaic Dynasty that we saw how todays Christianity was constructed. They took elements of kemetic science ( they didn't understand well) with their own cultural understanding and pushed it on the people as a way to spread their political influence. This is why the first Christians were African Greek Gnostics, but they were all killed and labeled heretics by the catholic church.

  • @docterryates340
    @docterryates340 Рік тому

    Learning Questions:
    1. According to the Gospels of Matthew Mark Luke John and the book Revelation, what is the Nubusn/Khemetian/ Egyptian AhFreeKan nane of Christ?
    2. Why in English Jesus or Jes-us is pronounced G'juss only in English and not in the other 7,000 plus languages spoken in the World 🌎🌍?
    3. What language the name Jesus originated of ?
    4. How many persons are mentioned only in the New Testament of the same name "Jesus"?
    5. If Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, and Greek was not his ethnic language, why the name Jesus is NOT mentioned in the 39 books of the Old Testament and in all 27 books of the New Testament?
    6. Why the Nubian Egyptian AhFreeKan name of the KhaRist (Khrist or Christ) is mentioned in both Old and New Testaments but the name Jesus is NOT?
    7. Why Matthew 1;1 starts of with the name of Jesus Christ and not Jesus the Christ?
    8. Why Matthew chapter 1 says this is the Genealogy of Jesus Christ and NOT Immanuel mentioned in Isaiah 7:14, yet, we read in Matthew 1: 23-24 the prophecy is fulfilled that Christ name is not Jesus but Emmanuel?
    9. If Immanuel spoken of in Isaiah 7:14 is not the Khrist to come mentioned in Matthew 1:23-24, then, why the name Jesus is the first name mentioned in the New Testament. Yet, this name never mentioned in the Old Testament as reference as David and Abraham?
    10. Why most people, especially Christians do not know the etymology ofvthe words god, God, GOD, Lord, LORD, LORD God and GOD Lord?
    Disfortunately, most people do not know tye wird God is a Dutch Germanic word originally. God was introducted to the British by the Getmanic barbarians.
    If it were not for the British adopting the Dutch Germanic word God and using it to invade others in India and other Asians, Africa, the Americas and Pacific in the names of God, King or Queen to Colonize and enslave others.
    Accoding to Dutch Germanic languages God is the abbreviated name of a cast down 👇 angel whi demanded of the Dutch Germanic people to plesse him by blood sacrifices of children and promiscuous Sexualities. God promised the Dutch Germanic people material fortune and wealth 🤑💵💲💰💎💍 🪙. God drrived from the Mesopotamian word Gad used in Hebrew meaning fortune and wealth of materialism.
    It is no coincidence thst the USA Currency it is written, "IN GOD WE TRUST"..
    THE KREATHER is GREATHER than god, God, GOD, Lord, LORD GOD, or GOD Lord.
    Listening to the ending of this Broadcast made me realized, how important it is written the devil 😈 is the God of this World . He has beguiled Eve she Adam in the beginning, and has Seeds, childre of hisvown the Britis abd Americans love to call"kids" (baby goats 🐐🐐🐐).
    According to the book Genesis chapter 3, the Serpent 🐍 God the devil 👿introduced religion to she Eve, and that religion was and is called "Believe" (Be-lie-eve). Eve was tye furst beliver of the Serpent God's religion.
    God is the tempter of all the children of Eve especially Abraham (Genesis 22:1). Abraham was temoted by God to murder his second , not pnly son, Isaac.
    Thoth AMEN 🙏 the KhaRis (Matthew 4:). The temptations of Khrist the AMEN 🙏
    The God of this World, the father of lies, who loves the World 🌎🌍 and his only begotten son Cain, a murderer in the beginning (John 8:32-44).
    Nowever, Khrist The AMEN 🙏 knew who the serpent 🐍 the God tempter of this World is, by rebuking him as Satan or Santa, same letters just shuffled around to deceive many, especially Zionist Christians...
    As a Wordologist, Bibliologist and Bible Detective, reading and studying the KJV Bible as of the year1970, I can truly verily say, RIGHTEOUSNESS EXALTS A Nation not Re-ligions.

  • @josephbooker7326
    @josephbooker7326 Рік тому

    Are black people…descendants of the biblical Israelites….Ham Shem JAphat all men of blk color that implies a range .,. Israelites we’re surrounded by their relatives and Also Ham mixed with Israel …Egypt mixed with Israel … 16:44 along with the scriptures here in the USA we believe we are the people and our tribe is also in the four combers of the earth…

  • @TheLionFarm
    @TheLionFarm 2 роки тому

    We talk of this exact thing

  • @anthonythomas3520
    @anthonythomas3520 2 місяці тому

    I agree when she said people are a part of the process. LOL “no sh’t”

  • @rodneykendrick775
    @rodneykendrick775 2 роки тому

    They are both wrong claiming that the Hebrews are the first to conceptualize one God.
    in our Ipso-facto to the fact looking back analysis, We try to disinterpret,
    What was clearly interpreted, And claim that the Africans who symbolized the wonders of God with the image Of the physical sun, were actually worshiping the sun. That’s your confusion... that ain’t there confusion! They were clear that the sun wasn’t God. Everything in there mythology everything in there
    Conceptualism, everything in their images did not say that Ra was God.
    They said that this stand’s as a symbol, a picture of the force that is God. Look they Understood as many of you don’t understand, God is too big to fit into a little Bitty picture.
    You can’t put him into a (sun) picture you can’t put him into a (rock) picture you can’t put him into a “Da Vinci” picture, you can’t put him in a “Michael Angelo” picture You can’t put him in a cross or ankh or no other kind of trinket, God is to big To fit into a little bitty picture. Even the Sun As big and massive as impressive as awesome as it is, it’s too little.
    God is bigger than that. But the ancients said, given the limitations of the one two eye, and looking as far as we can see with the third eye, we now understand that what we see in Eye three is so big, So Amorphous, so Consuming So
    All-expresses So awesome in it’s magnitude So beneficence and it’s capability that we can-not possibly limit and understand
    That in anyway with anything that we see with the two eyes.
    So we won’t call it a person we won’t call it a tree We won’t call it a river we will look Around and find out what is the biggest and baddest thing we can see with the two eyes. And what they saw was this massive ball of fire
    Out of which all things were determined. The rising of the tide, the changing of the seasons, The feeding of the Crops, the bringing of the rain, The heating of the earth, the burning of the desert, the bringing of life, the giving of life,
    The cultivation of all things that fed life and gave life and all without which there would be no life, Contrast with the darkness of the night, When it went out of the way nothing was able to happen because of the Discontinuity created by it’s temporary absence, only for a few moments, and the coldness that came along.
    They said that got to be the one.
    Not that, it is God, It is a representative to satisfy the two eyes, of what the third eye knows is real.
    Now what they talked about, is everything was A manifestation Of the greatness, as was the physical earth in all color, in all shapes and sizes was a manifestation of the light and The energy and power that came from the sun, They understood that all was in human life in consciousness was a consequence of the benevolence of this God.

  • @charlesratcliff2016
    @charlesratcliff2016 2 роки тому

    True Scholarship

  • @raymondjefferson2514
    @raymondjefferson2514 Рік тому

    And the Quran was not copied from the bible cause it tells truer Egyptian history about Pharoahs, Eygypt builder Harmon, and stories told without coruptions. And the Quran is not copied from the Dead Sea scolls but haves a matching story of the miracle of the talking baby Jesus and Jesus making a bird out of clay and blew life into it by God's leave.

  • @anthonythomas3520
    @anthonythomas3520 2 місяці тому

    It’s all mythology including Christianity. Bart Ehrman’s book “Lost Christianity” shows the vast diversity of Christianity from day one. The decision of who Jesus is to the Church was voted by Church Fathers in the 4th century, 400 years after his death. The historical Jesus never did these useless magic tricks like walking on water. Folks, this would be mythology in any other past and yes similar religions, but somehow it’s truth now because it’s a religion of our time, and mainly because people believe hell is real. And hell is also a later fabricated development LoL

  • @jdilla999
    @jdilla999 2 роки тому +7

    "Is Christianity a copy of Egyptian religion?"
    Most definitely, the word Christianity or better yet the word "CHRIST" is a knockoff of the Kemetic (Egyptian) word Karast.

    • @thehousehold1508
      @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому +5

      👀 what about the Hebrew word משׁיח (Messiah)

    • @jdilla999
      @jdilla999 2 роки тому

      @@thehousehold1508 yes the Hebrew word Mashiach, Greek Messias, Arabic Masih & English Messiah comes from the Kemetic (Egyptian word Messeh or Messa.
      Same with the Hebrew Awmane, English Amen & Arabic Amin/Ameen coming from the Kemetic Amun (Amon) as in the God Amun-Re who can be found in Revelation 3:14 as "The Amen".

    • @thehousehold1508
      @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому

      @@jdilla999 so are you saying all languages come from Kemetic language? And how did you come to this conclusion?

    • @jdilla999
      @jdilla999 2 роки тому +1

      @@thehousehold1508 that's not what I'm saying. The point is "Christianity comes from or copied Egypt???" It's obvious the Egyptian culture predates Judaism, Christianity & Islaam. Those Monotheistic Religions are allegorical from the Ancient Egyptian & Mesopotamian culture.

    • @thehousehold1508
      @thehousehold1508 2 роки тому

      @@jdilla999 so these 2 historians are incorrect when they say Christianity is not a copy?

  • @psstpsstheyyou3517
    @psstpsstheyyou3517 2 роки тому +1

    The bible reminds me of Brothers Grimm stories and fairytales.

  • @davidlomeling6423
    @davidlomeling6423 Рік тому

    Kemetic belief system was very "spiritual" in which mortal beings interacted with the immortal or deities within a given space. Spirituality is innate , religion is man-made and less spiritual .Theres no theological definition of religion and therefore the discussions are flawed

  • @anthonythomas3520
    @anthonythomas3520 2 місяці тому

    It’s all mythology including Christianity. Bart Ehrman’s book “Lost Christianity” shows the vast diversity of Christianity from day one. The decision of who Jesus is to the Church was voted by Church Fathers in the 4th century, 400 years after his death. The historical Jesus never did these useless magic tricks like walking on water. Folks, this would be mythology in any other past and yes similar religions, but somehow it’s truth now because it’s a religion of our time, and mainly because people believe hell is real. And hell is also a later fabricated development LoL