Guy, you are dead WRONG. BYU is very easy to find parking, easy to find your seat, the atmosphere is excellent, food easily available, wheel chair access is good. They are way HIGHER on your list.
He's mad because BYU cops confiscated his bike because he thought it was ok to just chain it up anywhere he wanted to on campus... people learn about those BYU cops the hard way
The way they have maintained the Marriott it still looks brand new. Ranking the Houston, TCU, UCF, arenas and several others above the MC is ridiculous. The original Marriott Center seated over 22,700, now it’s searing is down to 17,990 but much improved. Your obsession with natural light is whackoo games are mainly played at night. I’m an Arizona State fan and grad but I’ve been in all the MWC and PAC arenas as well as the Marriott Center, which I would rank tied for best with the Oregon facility.
You should have ranked the Arena's of the schools by experience, effectiveness of the fans, which schools have the best home advantage. Your aesthetics is very individually opinionated and fails to take into account the real value the different arenas have.
I’m a UH Coog and I need tell you….You all have a BEAUTIFUL arena!! I had never seen it until this year. Nestled in the mountains, huge capacity, and frighteningly difficult to play in.
@@noelramirez1551 The UCF interior is so bad, it outweighs the decent exterior. By contrast, the BYU interior is so good, it outweighs the bland exterior.
I was expecting a rating based on experience, crowd energy, home court advantage ect. Not based on your personal opinions of aesthetics, that almost no one is going to agree on. Who the _____ cares. What a waste of time.
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. He bashed the extrerior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Colisuem has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
Sooo much nicer than the TCU dump he has above it. He has some really odd observations and rankings. Sometimes he'll say something then the next sentence what he says contradicts his previous observation.
The Marriott center is most definitely bland on the outside, but I would dare to put the in-game experience and atmosphere up against any in the Big12. The students are all very involved in the game, the crowd is awesome, the pregame and in-game production and entertainment are all top notch. Also, many of the pictures you show are VERY outdated. The entire lower bowl was torn out-including the concrete and replaced with new larger seats. The 25% of the lower bowl that was bleachers was replaced with chairback seats and capacity was reduced from 22,700 to 18,000. The upper bowl has all new seating. New large videoboards and scoreboard, new LED ribbons, new LED lighting, new court, expanded concourses in the corners of the building. Even though the building is 50+ years old, the arena itself is all brand new. Tech, ISU, and obviously Kansas have awesome atmospheres as well. I would love to visit them a someday. Actually would love to visit all the Big12 campuses/cities! Big12 basketball has just been awesome tk follow this year!
I didn’t need to watch video, I read the comments instead. BYU definitely has a great basketball arena, food choices, easy available parking and who can argue about how awesome the ROC is?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I’m not going to flame you for yours, but BYU has since remodeled the Marriott Center and the entire arena is blue seating. It may seem a small thing, but for those of us who hated the tan/yellow chairs from the 70s it’s huge! (Plus, they lowered capacity from 22,500 to 18,000 to give everyone more leg room)
I think you need to understand that arenas are used for more than just basketball at some schools BYU, for example, uses the Marriott Center for weekly devotionals and community events involving large gatherings. Besides, when it comes to basketball, its not the arena, its the fans that make the difference in the game regardless of the design of the arena.
That's no excuse. Baylor has less students than BYU and they have Foster Pavilion and also Ferrell Center. If you need multiple arenas for different uses... you reach into the church coffers and you build multiple arenas for different uses.
It doesn't really matter, the only subpar thing about the Marriott center is the exterior, which is completely fine and not worth upgrading. It is plenty good in every other possible way.
@@slimydick23 Why though? The Marriot Center is perfectly fine for events outside basketball. It's on campus and surprisingly centrally located essentially equidistant from the 3 main dorm complexes on campus and the admin building. It's a 20k seat arena, it'd be dumb to not use it for as much as possible.
@@brailsmt if you have a multipurpose area it's baked into the deal that for every single use you'll find a couple of reasons why it's lacking. that's the deal you made... or you can make a dozen different arenas on campus for every use: church, plays, concerts, MBB, WBB, volleyball, gymnastics, etc
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. He bashed the exterior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Colisuem has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
All of this guys rankings are based off hype WV unfortunately went 9-23 the year he decided to make this😂. We averaged more attendance with 9 wins all year than a few teams ahead of us full capacity.
If you haven’t been to all the arenas how can you rank them? You put a lot of value into exterior design but that doesn’t really make it a great gym for basketball. Also you seem to like suites versus basic seating but they only benefit a few fans.
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. WVU Coliseum is one of the best arenas in America! He bashed the exterior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Coliseum has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
I've never understood why arenas should have natural light glaring into the seating bowls. The glare is horrible. Arenas should have no windows in the seating areas. Save that for the concourses.
@@ghostface1737went to a game about 2 months ago, made the mistake of wearing pants and a sweatshirt (it was 30 degrees out) and as well was at the very top right Infront of the window, definitely got cooked 😂
I thank you for making a more positive video; but as far as GIA is concerned; yes there is an UPPER DECK! The concourse separates the 200 from the 300 sections. I will have to respond to your list, which I agreed with 80% of what you said later today.
Allen arena at #1 makes sense but Foster at #2??? Foster dead last. I hate the place and I go there. Miserable. Honestly, tear it down and start over. What a waste of money. I to was surprised with the rankings. BYU, a new member, has the highest average attendance. Seems like that should've been part of it. You stated that Foster is "cozy"; another word for puny. Honestly, I hate Foster. I'd put WVU as #1. Your take is off. How does Baylor end up as a top team after being imprisoned in that awful arena. Looks like a penitentiary inside.
5:15 UCF fan here, gonna talk about AddFi. 1. It's larger than Fertitta Center and Foster Pavilion. I think the size is perfect. Also, they took out some seats to put in the Courtside Club. Those seats have always been retractable for other events so they could easily put those back if necessary. That puts the capacity right at 10k 2. The wall is there because that's where the stage backs up to for concerts. They cannot remove it for natural light because the back of the arena actually backs up to The Venue, which is the old arena that now is used for the volleyball team. That said, I want them to put more seats up there since we could easily get another 1-2k up there. The seats in front of that wall are the student section btw
Having windows/ natural light makes a huge difference in atmosphere for arenas!! All new built facilities should b mandatory 2hav this. No crowding ppl in a dungeon to watch sports
WVU 13? This guy is outside his mind. The coliseum can hold 14k fans, and with its design and acoustics, it literally sounds like you are inside a Mad Max movie watching gladiators duke it out in the Thunder Dome. What a joke, the BYU placement is atrocious as well.
I would recommend using some newer photos for Addition Financial Arena, the court design changed a little bit and it looks much better. As for the wall, no, it’s not covering anything.
@@GoOp790Yeah right. I guess their "criminally overrated home court" is why no one beats them there. And why all opposing coaches and teams that lose there talk about how amazing ISU's home court advantage is. The only arena I've been to that was louder than Hilton was the old Chicago Stadium, which had a capacity of around 20,000 whereas Hilton's is around 14,500.
@@klubs1 it’s criminally overrated. I think AFH is overrated, but it’s not criminally overrated. Pretty sure Iowa State went 2-18 a few years ago. I think being a good team is why they win, “Hilton Magic” won them like one game that one year. Tragic, but true
UCF and Houston arenas are not nicer then the MC...you're nuts. And I'd say easily better then TCU and Texas Tech. You cant base arena rankings on exteriors. Lol
Gee how did I guess you would have Kansas at #1. Fogg is an old building that harkens back to 1960’s basketball. BTW, Baylor’s new house should be around #10
You lost me at K-State. If I gotta sit in some bleachers at a basketball game I will go to the YMCA. Should be dead last! Also I’m a UH Coog so this was my 1st year seeing all the XII arenas. The Marriott Center is Fire! Ranked too low. Foster Center is ranked too high. ESPN is paying Baylor 20mil a yr to put their games on tv….they NEEED to find a better place for the tv camera. Period. Especially if the capacity is only 7k.
Bramlage has a lot of chair back seating and I imagine more will go in over time. My biggest dislike for Bramlage was putting in those "cages" for where the media sit. I don't get it. They look ugly and out of place with the rest of the arena. I do like the new court. It looks brighter and cleaner than the previous one. You saw both of them in the video.
You have a very skewed way of looking at this. No one cares about looks. The size is a major factor that you did not mention consistently. Hilton is the best btw.
Zero research put into this video by a guy who has clearly been to very few (if any) of these arena. Piss poor video by an ignoramus. Don’t bother to watch. Only one he got right was #1. I’ve been to all these arenas now and the worst is by far Houston. BYU should be like top 3. He’s a dope.
I’ve been to all of these arenas, except UCF. The BYU and Kansas arenas were easily the best. Ginger is cuckoo!!!
Guy, you are dead WRONG. BYU is very easy to find parking, easy to find your seat, the atmosphere is excellent, food easily available, wheel chair access is good. They are way HIGHER on your list.
He's mad because BYU cops confiscated his bike because he thought it was ok to just chain it up anywhere he wanted to on campus... people learn about those BYU cops the hard way
The way they have maintained the Marriott it still looks brand new. Ranking the Houston, TCU, UCF, arenas and several others above the MC is ridiculous. The original Marriott Center seated over 22,700, now it’s searing is down to 17,990 but much improved. Your obsession with natural light is whackoo games are mainly played at night. I’m an Arizona State fan and grad but I’ve been in all the MWC and PAC arenas as well as the Marriott Center, which I would rank tied for best with the Oregon facility.
BYU should be a little higher tbh
Visiting fans love the Marriott Center even when their team loses; they especially love cougar tails.
You should have ranked the Arena's of the schools by experience, effectiveness of the fans, which schools have the best home advantage. Your aesthetics is very individually opinionated and fails to take into account the real value the different arenas have.
I think Hilton in Ames would be top 3 easily then. Pry ISU, KU, and BYU.
I’m a UH Coog and I need tell you….You all have a BEAUTIFUL arena!! I had never seen it until this year. Nestled in the mountains, huge capacity, and frighteningly difficult to play in.
@@brendanerdahl914 They don't call it Hilton Magic for nothing! Thx.
BYU WAY too low
Agree. TCU, Cincinnati, UCF, KSU, Houston, Texass are worse. (That new Texass arena is hideous.)
@@garydavis8213 lol did you not see the exterior at BYU? UCF has a way better exterior
Completely agree. It’s a massive arena that’s very loud and IMO he got too caught up with the aesthetics rather than the intimidation of each arena
@@noelramirez1551 The UCF interior is so bad, it outweighs the decent exterior. By contrast, the BYU interior is so good, it outweighs the bland exterior.
Byu top 3 EASILY. Nobod cares about the exterior
This list is Architecture over atmosphere.
Marriott Center at 12 was enough for me to exit the video lol BYE
I thought byu would be higher on the list. It's huge and it's rly nice.
The exterior pushed it down
@@KeenanMoore-nh4gb you’re telling me the exterior pushed it down like 10 rankings??
@@taylorjohnston1750 You know what they say "Always judge a book by its cover".
I was expecting a rating based on experience, crowd energy, home court advantage ect. Not based on your personal opinions of aesthetics, that almost no one is going to agree on. Who the _____ cares. What a waste of time.
Bro Put BYU at 12🙄That is crap
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. He bashed the extrerior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Colisuem has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
Sooo much nicer than the TCU dump he has above it. He has some really odd observations and rankings. Sometimes he'll say something then the next sentence what he says contradicts his previous observation.
@@SheaHarris Ya I should be way higher
BYU and WV Coliseum… should be top 5… bro trippin
It is obvious you have never been to the Marriot center
Jesus loves everyone
Stay far away from Utah County
@zch7491 Utah County is Awesome
@@zch7491Great idea, it’s growing so fast, it’s close to being crowded.
BYU got rid of the ugly yellow seating. It’s all blue now.
Bro... BYU is top 4 easy. 😂
KU, BYU, Arizona & Texas Tech are the best in the Big12
The Marriott center is most definitely bland on the outside, but I would dare to put the in-game experience and atmosphere up against any in the Big12. The students are all very involved in the game, the crowd is awesome, the pregame and in-game production and entertainment are all top notch.
Also, many of the pictures you show are VERY outdated. The entire lower bowl was torn out-including the concrete and replaced with new larger seats. The 25% of the lower bowl that was bleachers was replaced with chairback seats and capacity was reduced from 22,700 to 18,000. The upper bowl has all new seating. New large videoboards and scoreboard, new LED ribbons, new LED lighting, new court, expanded concourses in the corners of the building. Even though the building is 50+ years old, the arena itself is all brand new.
Tech, ISU, and obviously Kansas have awesome atmospheres as well. I would love to visit them a someday. Actually would love to visit all the Big12 campuses/cities!
Big12 basketball has just been awesome tk follow this year!
How you gonna put ucf over byu 🤦♂️
BYU No. 12 😂😂😂 You obviously haven't been there
Trippin on the Marriott Center. One of the best venues to watch College basketball
BYU should be way higher. Those images inside the Marriott Center are outdated.
I didn’t need to watch video, I read the comments instead. BYU definitely has a great basketball arena, food choices, easy available parking and who can argue about how awesome the ROC is?
Should rename this list to my ranking of Big 12 Arena’s based on Internet photos
Gonna just add another comment here in favor of the MC being waayyy higher, atmosphere there is amazing and the inside is pretty nice tbh
BYU at 12!???? That’s so stupid
i dont think he knows how to pronounce fertitta center so he didnt say it🤐
BYU's arena is incredible. Go there sometime.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I’m not going to flame you for yours, but BYU has since remodeled the Marriott Center and the entire arena is blue seating. It may seem a small thing, but for those of us who hated the tan/yellow chairs from the 70s it’s huge! (Plus, they lowered capacity from 22,500 to 18,000 to give everyone more leg room)
BYU fans killin Ginger
Everyone is
Well, the list is shit.
I think you need to understand that arenas are used for more than just basketball at some schools BYU, for example, uses the Marriott Center for weekly devotionals and community events involving large gatherings. Besides, when it comes to basketball, its not the arena, its the fans that make the difference in the game regardless of the design of the arena.
That's no excuse. Baylor has less students than BYU and they have Foster Pavilion and also Ferrell Center. If you need multiple arenas for different uses... you reach into the church coffers and you build multiple arenas for different uses.
It doesn't really matter, the only subpar thing about the Marriott center is the exterior, which is completely fine and not worth upgrading. It is plenty good in every other possible way.
@@slimydick23 Why though? The Marriot Center is perfectly fine for events outside basketball. It's on campus and surprisingly centrally located essentially equidistant from the 3 main dorm complexes on campus and the admin building. It's a 20k seat arena, it'd be dumb to not use it for as much as possible.
@@brailsmt if you have a multipurpose area it's baked into the deal that for every single use you'll find a couple of reasons why it's lacking. that's the deal you made... or you can make a dozen different arenas on campus for every use: church, plays, concerts, MBB, WBB, volleyball, gymnastics, etc
BYU at what????
Ngl, I kinda like WVU's arena
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. He bashed the exterior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Colisuem has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
@@mickeyellison7929 he shit posts a lot for sure. Don't mind it, just don't agree with his opinions
Ikr it looks so good
All of this guys rankings are based off hype WV unfortunately went 9-23 the year he decided to make this😂. We averaged more attendance with 9 wins all year than a few teams ahead of us full capacity.
Ranking afh that high just because Kansas is always good is ridiculous. Discredited Oklahomas for being so old. Afh is archaic as fuck
No he ranked AFH number 1 because it’s easily and Undisputably 1
Tell me you've never been to a game in AFH without telling me you've never been to a game in AFH.
Bro must’ve never been to any of these arenas
Cincinnati looks like a loading dock for grocery store semi trucks
If you haven’t been to all the arenas how can you rank them? You put a lot of value into exterior design but that doesn’t really make it a great gym for basketball. Also you seem to like suites versus basic seating but they only benefit a few fans.
He hasn't even been to any of these places. He literally just based it all on what he sees on television and in pics. WVU Coliseum is one of the best arenas in America! He bashed the exterior of the WVU Coliseum. However, it is an absolutely gorgeus structure. He also said, the WVU Coliseum has no upper deck. THat is 100% false. He is clueless.
I've never understood why arenas should have natural light glaring into the seating bowls. The glare is horrible. Arenas should have no windows in the seating areas. Save that for the concourses.
The natural light cooks the fans too. Ask Kansas fans
@@ghostface1737 Cameron Indoor Stadium used to have stained glass windows with light coming through. Duke finally had to darken them due to the glare.
@@ghostface1737went to a game about 2 months ago, made the mistake of wearing pants and a sweatshirt (it was 30 degrees out) and as well was at the very top right Infront of the window, definitely got cooked 😂
WVU at 13 is criminal
You have lost it bro. BYU should be top 3 minimum.
do this for every conference
Jesus died for us
@@Babylion2311I appreciate him so much
Imagine he does this for the NEC 😭💀
Chuckle, it’s clear this guy has never visited any of these arenas.
I thank you for making a more positive video; but as far as GIA is concerned; yes there is an UPPER DECK! The concourse separates the 200 from the 300 sections. I will have to respond to your list, which I agreed with 80% of what you said later today.
BYU at 12 is actually criminal
Allen arena at #1 makes sense but Foster at #2??? Foster dead last. I hate the place and I go there. Miserable. Honestly, tear it down and start over. What a waste of money. I to was surprised with the rankings. BYU, a new member, has the highest average attendance. Seems like that should've been part of it. You stated that Foster is "cozy"; another word for puny. Honestly, I hate Foster. I'd put WVU as #1. Your take is off. How does Baylor end up as a top team after being imprisoned in that awful arena. Looks like a penitentiary inside.
Bro sleeps with “nAtUrAl LiGhT”
Go Pokes! Love GIA at #3. Unbiased… Texas Tech should be higher lol 👌 USMA is incredible.
Ginger, how many of these venues have you actually seen in person???
Zero I bet 😢😂
He knocked other arenas for being smaller then said Baylor’s was awesome(which it is) and said that small/cozy arenas make sense?
How is BYU not top 3????
WVU and BYU are way too low
Texas Tech not being top 4 is crazy lol
5:15 UCF fan here, gonna talk about AddFi.
1. It's larger than Fertitta Center and Foster Pavilion. I think the size is perfect. Also, they took out some seats to put in the Courtside Club. Those seats have always been retractable for other events so they could easily put those back if necessary. That puts the capacity right at 10k
2. The wall is there because that's where the stage backs up to for concerts. They cannot remove it for natural light because the back of the arena actually backs up to The Venue, which is the old arena that now is used for the volleyball team. That said, I want them to put more seats up there since we could easily get another 1-2k up there. The seats in front of that wall are the student section btw
why do you pronounce some words so weird (incorrectly)?
Interour and exterour
There's no way "conjumbled" is a word
Do you like natural light in the theater?
Having windows/ natural light makes a huge difference in atmosphere for arenas!! All new built facilities should b mandatory 2hav this. No crowding ppl in a dungeon to watch sports
Terrible take BYU is top 3. Clearly you don’t know much.
This guy says "There's not a lot to it" about every low-ranked stadium even though each of them have a lot to it
WVU 13? This guy is outside his mind. The coliseum can hold 14k fans, and with its design and acoustics, it literally sounds like you are inside a Mad Max movie watching gladiators duke it out in the Thunder Dome. What a joke, the BYU placement is atrocious as well.
Any blimp hangers turned into arenas?
I didn't know Texas got rid of the Classic Super Drum but at least the new looks good too.
The moody center can seat 16,000 for concerts and other stuff there are 5,000+ seats behind those panels it still seats 10,000 for basketball
I 100% disagree about Texas! I went to a game there last year and the wrap around screen at the top was incredible and very unique!
So you criticized some arenas as needing more seating but you put the tiny Baylor arena at #2?
I would recommend using some newer photos for Addition Financial Arena, the court design changed a little bit and it looks much better. As for the wall, no, it’s not covering anything.
Yeah Hilton top 3 probably the hardest arena to play an away game at other than Allen and maybe foster
Today I learned the word conjumbled
The Pit mentioned!! 👌👌
BYU stadium is way too low 😂
I’ve been to eight of these, and the three loudest I have heard are Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa St.
Iowa State is a good atmosphere but criminally overrated
nah you crazy@@GoOp790
Have you been to byu it is wilddd
@@GoOp790Yeah right. I guess their "criminally overrated home court" is why no one beats them there. And why all opposing coaches and teams that lose there talk about how amazing ISU's home court advantage is.
The only arena I've been to that was louder than Hilton was the old Chicago Stadium, which had a capacity of around 20,000 whereas Hilton's is around 14,500.
@@klubs1 it’s criminally overrated. I think AFH is overrated, but it’s not criminally overrated. Pretty sure Iowa State went 2-18 a few years ago. I think being a good team is why they win, “Hilton Magic” won them like one game that one year. Tragic, but true
UCF and Houston arenas are not nicer then the MC...you're nuts. And I'd say easily better then TCU and Texas Tech. You cant base arena rankings on exteriors. Lol
So he ranked Techs old arena while the new arena the Womble is top 3 no doubt
Nice troll on the Marriott Center. One way too ensure lots of comments.
Gee how did I guess you would have Kansas at #1. Fogg is an old building that harkens back to 1960’s basketball. BTW, Baylor’s new house should be around #10
Horrible list, byu deserves better. Also as a Bearcat fan, never heard of that complaint about the corners. And since when is 12k “smaller”?
Glad to be getting rid of Norman high school arena in the big 12
This guy said ‘bright blue Oregon State color’ when talking about Oklahoma State🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣
Moody center inside, da faq
You lost me at K-State. If I gotta sit in some bleachers at a basketball game I will go to the YMCA. Should be dead last! Also I’m a UH Coog so this was my 1st year seeing all the XII arenas. The Marriott Center is Fire! Ranked too low.
Foster Center is ranked too high. ESPN is paying Baylor 20mil a yr to put their games on tv….they NEEED to find a better place for the tv camera. Period. Especially if the capacity is only 7k.
Bramlage has a lot of chair back seating and I imagine more will go in over time. My biggest dislike for Bramlage was putting in those "cages" for where the media sit. I don't get it. They look ugly and out of place with the rest of the arena. I do like the new court. It looks brighter and cleaner than the previous one. You saw both of them in the video.
Worst ranking video on the internet! This dude is absolutely clueless.
United Supermarkets Arena should be higher and you didn’t use an updated interior photo.
Ur tripping at 10:25
Oregon State lmao that had me dying
How can Foster be in your top 2 when it only hold 36 people?? Absolute joke!
2:22 wow UGLY arena. That exterior looks like a late 70s early 80s department store
Tech gotta be top 3 just off vibes alone
You forgot Arizona's Mckale Center
Never rank again
This dude is the mist negative guy on UA-cam
This review is only about aesthetics. Who cares about aesthetics. People care about the energy in the arenas.
Go Cyclones! I am content being number 5!
Terrible list. Also, who says “conjumbled?” 🤦♂️😂
Dude its a good list
You are terrible and lame!! This is a great list!! Ginger has an excellent eye and feel for what is great and what is wack, just like me!!
Depressed, what do you like in a stadium?
do pac 12 next ginger
1. OSU. 2. WSU
@@CougarFan827 💀 thats not what i meant
@@whatlol_e 😅
Texas Tech way better than Iowa State
Hardly-lol.
You have a very skewed way of looking at this. No one cares about looks. The size is a major factor that you did not mention consistently. Hilton is the best btw.
Zero research put into this video by a guy who has clearly been to very few (if any) of these arena. Piss poor video by an ignoramus. Don’t bother to watch. Only one he got right was #1. I’ve been to all these arenas now and the worst is by far Houston. BYU should be like top 3. He’s a dope.
I knew we wouldn't be high due to size, so I'm content with 9
Jesus loves everyone
Why do you hate Iowa State so much. Consistently fading Iowa State.
Came to see how McKale stacked up against Allen Fieldhouse.
Was sorely disappointed