He starts off at the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga, Tennessee, home to the Oldest Operating Mainline Steamer in America, Southern 2-8-0 #630, built by the American Locomotive Works in Richmond, VA. in February, 1904. #630 is the 2nd oldest operating steamer in Tennessee, second only to Southern 2-8-0 #154 at the Three Rivers Rambler in Knoxville.
Streamlined Steamroller Yes, there is a program by Rail Innovations, I beleive its called Steam Memories of Ontario-From the collection of Newt Rossiter, it shows footage of Jubilees in action as well as other CP and CN steam locomotives, and in the background, former CP and CN engineers tell their tales of operating these old Iron Horses.
Money is a problem but not the biggest problem. Track to run on is the problem, Canadian engines are usually all friction bearing plus you have to deal with CN and from what I've heard......good luck. CP I have no idea if they would allow it. Because of our climate, outdoor engines are usually in very rough shape unless someone has been taking care of them. I would love to see it if someone could make it happen.
The gentleman makes the mistake that so many people do, Canadian Pacific and Canadian National are both Railways, Canada hasn't got any Railroads and never has had (I could be wrong there but I don't think so)
In short, economics. Diesel-electrics were cheaper and more convenient to run when they came out and, in today's world, would be FAR less expensive to run. Keep in mind there were almost 100 trades involved in running and maintaining steam locomotives -- all union jobs. Getting rid of the unions was the railroads' first priority then, just as it is now. Do not try to equate Diesel and steam horsepower. Diesels are far more powerful at slow speeds and do not have to take slack to start a heavy train. Diesels can start a train it would take two or three steam locomotives to start, but Diesels cannot maintain speed like a steamer can. Diesels generate their greatest horsepower at starting, and it drops significantly as they speed up. Modern steam locomotives were designed to develop their maximum horsepower at 40-60 mph.
Dear Green Frog: As usual, your narration and captions are full of errors. And please note, it was Canadian National RailWAYS and Canadian Pacific RailWAY.
jay600katana..... Regarding your comment about restoring N&W 611 and feeding her that dumbass cockroach.... I just have one thing to say on that..... CAN I WATCH??????? Being someone who has worked on, and helps maintain a steam locomotive, an important part of our heritage, I really hope you are able to bring #611 back to life!
True, but I enjoy playing his game. He comments on steam video's about scrapping them so I insult him or tell him how no one would mind if he got his foot caught in a moving coal stoker. I have nothing personal against him but he can't keep his opinions to himself. Stealing from the worlds most intereting man, I don't usually run trains but when I do, I prefer steam, steam on my friend.
I remember these old Steamers well and I miss them.
Thanks once again Green Frog, added to a playlist...
I noted that the "New York Central" cars were all labelled "Canadian National".
pipey61 i believe they edited the video as a preview so they were cropped out
great collection and commentary!
Bring back the Canadian Steam Program right now!
Interesting clip, thanks.
awesome footage!!
He starts off at the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga, Tennessee, home to the Oldest Operating Mainline Steamer in America, Southern 2-8-0 #630, built by the American Locomotive Works in Richmond, VA. in February, 1904. #630 is the 2nd oldest operating steamer in Tennessee, second only to Southern 2-8-0 #154 at the Three Rivers Rambler in Knoxville.
You contradict yourself. SOU 154 was also built as a mainline steam locomotive.
At 0:05, OMG! IT'S A F2A CLASS JUBILEE! That is the first footage I've ever seen! Does anyone know if there is any more footage of that loco?
Streamlined Steamroller Yes, there is a program by Rail Innovations, I beleive its called Steam Memories of Ontario-From the collection of Newt Rossiter, it shows footage of Jubilees in action as well as other CP and CN steam locomotives, and in the background, former CP and CN engineers tell their tales of operating these old Iron Horses.
0:19 that whistle was taken from MLW 1077
Can you please upload the full video of this?
Note that most of these Canadian steamers burning oil that was a common sight back in the 1950s when they were being phased out.
The Strasburg 89?
I did not notice any New York Central passenger cars on the CNR train.
But I Should say I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!
Those weren’t New York central cars! Those were Grand Trunk Western Cars. A CANADIAN RAILWAY COMPANY
There made by nyc.
Money is a problem but not the biggest problem. Track to run on is the problem, Canadian engines are usually all friction bearing plus you have to deal with CN and from what I've heard......good luck. CP I have no idea if they would allow it. Because of our climate, outdoor engines are usually in very rough shape unless someone has been taking care of them. I would love to see it if someone could make it happen.
The gentleman makes the mistake that so many people do, Canadian Pacific and Canadian National are both Railways, Canada hasn't got any Railroads and never has had (I could be wrong there but I don't think so)
Is Canadian Steams Still In Service?
I think he lurks in Portland Oregon.
What’s the name of the intro song?
It's all aboard
Earl's Breakdown - Flatt and Scruggs.
one question, why did steam have to be replaced? Many steamers are more powerful than diesles today.
In short, economics. Diesel-electrics were cheaper and more convenient to run when they came out and, in today's world, would be FAR less expensive to run. Keep in mind there were almost 100 trades involved in running and maintaining steam locomotives -- all union jobs. Getting rid of the unions was the railroads' first priority then, just as it is now.
Do not try to equate Diesel and steam horsepower. Diesels are far more powerful at slow speeds and do not have to take slack to start a heavy train. Diesels can start a train it would take two or three steam locomotives to start, but Diesels cannot maintain speed like a steamer can. Diesels generate their greatest horsepower at starting, and it drops significantly as they speed up. Modern steam locomotives were designed to develop their maximum horsepower at 40-60 mph.
Dear Green Frog: As usual, your narration and captions are full of errors. And please note, it was Canadian National RailWAYS and Canadian Pacific RailWAY.
jpp452 What but they’re the leader of 🚞 entertainment!
if they did hat, how would they sell any videos? ;)
Ronthecyborg Green Frog Videos Will Post A Video 2816 Is Goong To Be Return To Steam In 2021
Steam.trains ran in the states till 75
Daveyboy _ for excursions maybe and well beyond but not for commercial use.
jay600katana.....
Regarding your comment about restoring N&W 611 and feeding her that dumbass cockroach....
I just have one thing to say on that.....
CAN I WATCH???????
Being someone who has worked on, and helps maintain a steam locomotive, an important part of our heritage, I really hope you are able to bring #611 back to life!
N&W BUILT STEAM TO 1958 RAN TO 1965/66
C&O 614 BUILT 1947 LAST STEAM BUILT BY THE MAJOR BUILDERS
Sorry, but N&W's last steam locomotive was built in 1952. They last ran in 1960.
C&O 614 was not even the last steam locomotive built for the C&O. Their last new steam locomotives were 2-6+6-2s built by Baldwin.
True, but I enjoy playing his game. He comments on steam video's about scrapping them so I insult him or tell him how no one would mind if he got his foot caught in a moving coal stoker. I have nothing personal against him but he can't keep his opinions to himself. Stealing from the worlds most intereting man, I don't usually run trains but when I do, I prefer steam, steam on my friend.
they ran steam in the states untill the 60s,btw that was a lame all abord!
Not on class 1 railroads. Yes, some steam did, and 844 did, but that wasn't revenue steam.
Grand Trunk Western ran steam up to March 27th, 1960 here in Michigan. Watched this with my Dad.
dansjr very cool. I guess that’s because of its parent, CNR. :)
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