Hi Jeff, are you considering having the carbon fiber rod technology implemented on a neck-through guitar model? EDIT: Found out Kiesel/Carvin offers this on every model they build now. The next guitar I buy will be from these guys.
You cant believe my shock and awe when i visited the Carvin site and clicked on the Bolt On models section only to see the beautiful and new Aries models looking at me. I know what my first custom carvin will be!
How can you add relief to the neck via the truss rod if the carbon fiber rods keep it straight? Several people have asked below, but I haven't read an answer yet.
My English is not really good, but I hope you can answer me below questions. Many thanks! Q1: According to the video the guitar neck has Carbon fiber rods with 2 ways trust rod assemble together. If I want to adjust the guitar neck angle, I need turn the trust rod. Does it will hurt the guitar neck (wood / fingerboard)? Because the Carbon fiber rods are very tough and I keep turning the trust rod in which angle may pry the fingerboard inside! Q2: Does Kiesel guitars provide Evertune bridge? Thanks! From Hong Kong fans
Ok... if the carbon rods hold it stiff... and u need to adjust truss rod do they resist that too? How does the relationship between the carbon fiber rods and trust rods work?
They do obviously resist, but it's not impossible. The truss rod can easily apply enough force to adjust the neck any way you want, and the carbon fiber is mainly there to support against unwanted bending due to string tension or climate changes.
Received My Aries today and I must admit, I was a bit disappointed. As I suspected several hours on a hot Fed ex truck and 100+ degree weather here in Las Vegas definitely effected my guitar contrary to the guys at Kiesel telling me that it would not. The neck was way out of whack and I had to make several adjustments. Every Unboxing demo of this guitar shows the user being surprised at how perfect the guitar was in tune after being shipped through various climates and in one case from California to Germany. I certainly had a different experience.
In New England here, and the stability during climate changes, and even sitting in my warm (not hot) car during the day, has been a life-saver. I have a few much more expensive guitars than my Kiesel, and the Kiesel has been my go-to for practice and play, partly because of this stability and reliability.
Awesome. I really notice how sweet the guitar sounds with a straight neck. On my guitar it is a maple with rosewood skunk stripe. It keeps loosing tension and getting concave every once in a while and it messes the intonation. I have to always keep an eye on that sucker. Next purchase I will be smarter and get a guitar with a reinforced neck. String tension is really high even on 9's.
+anongrey They're very strong, but not as strong as a Parker. Parkers have a carbon fiber glass composite fingerboard and the entire back of the guitar (headstock, neck, and body) is covered with a carbon fiber glass composite "skin," or "exoskeleton" as they call it. It's the same idea as the carbon fiber rod, but applied to the entire instrument. You can literally put one across two chairs and stand on it (Ken Parker did this for an advertisement once).
+Lions make you brave I've played compound radius necks for 25+ years and I firmly believe they make a difference. I know not everyone likes/believes in them.
Hey Kiesel Guitars...Can a customer order a Single Cut shaped body and have those Carbon Fiber Rods in the neck like the one in this video? Thanks for any info.
Hey yall, troll from everquest here; Still not as stiff as a schecter mahogany 3p neck with carbon rods like in my hellraiser 7 string. Because maple = bowflex. And maple neck sound = poop.
Every time I see a standout, beautiful guitar, it's a Kiesel. I've yet to play one, but if they feel half as good as they look, I'll be happy.
Hi Jeff, are you considering having the carbon fiber rod technology implemented on a neck-through guitar model?
EDIT: Found out Kiesel/Carvin offers this on every model they build now. The next guitar I buy will be from these guys.
You cant believe my shock and awe when i visited the Carvin site and clicked on the Bolt On models section only to see the beautiful and new Aries models looking at me. I know what my first custom carvin will be!
dose the truss rod do anything with the carbon fibre rods being so strong?
Excellent demonstration and information on the strength and stability of carbon fiber rods! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Yep, I think it's time for an Aries! Great demonstration, Jeff!
What is the reason the carbon fiber rods stop so much short of the guitar nut area?
How can you add relief to the neck via the truss rod if the carbon fiber rods keep it straight? Several people have asked below, but I haven't read an answer yet.
+jerry riccardi The truss rod over powers the carbon fiber rods, the rods just keep the surface of the board level and true
if the fret board is level and true, while the neck is adjusted... is it not possible the fret board could begin to separate from the neck?
Pwm_Pachie Glues they use nowadays are so strong, it's practically tge same piece of wood
Stephen Docherty bro you seriously need to get a girlfriend. You have some SERIOUS issues you need to work out with yourself.
Excellent tutorial. Very formative. Thanks for sharing.
Doesn't the carbon fibre reinforcement render the truss rod useless if the former makes the neck practically unbendable?
Stupid question, but if the carbon fibre rod is stiffer/stronger than the wood, would the wood not move/break/bend around the rod?
This was an excellent presentation, and also answered some questions I had had, but hadn't gotten clarified, regarding neck reinforcement on Carvins.
how can you adjust the bow with the truss rod if you can't even bend the carbon fiber by force?
Yeahh and that's the good question
Man, you guys make me wanna leave Ventura County, move to SD and work for you.
Everyone knows they are stronger. Everyone is more wonder what will be the differences in terms of sound.
Don't thank me, thank this inanimate carbon fibre rod...
Teria como vocês patrocinarem alguém que quer aprender a tocar?
My English is not really good, but I hope you can answer me below questions. Many thanks!
Q1: According to the video the guitar neck has Carbon fiber rods with 2 ways trust rod assemble together. If I want to adjust the guitar neck angle, I need turn the trust rod. Does it will hurt the guitar neck (wood / fingerboard)? Because the Carbon fiber rods are very tough and I keep turning the trust rod in which angle may pry the fingerboard inside!
Q2: Does Kiesel guitars provide Evertune bridge? Thanks!
From Hong Kong fans
Ok... if the carbon rods hold it stiff... and u need to adjust truss rod do they resist that too? How does the relationship between the carbon fiber rods and trust rods work?
They do obviously resist, but it's not impossible. The truss rod can easily apply enough force to adjust the neck any way you want, and the carbon fiber is mainly there to support against unwanted bending due to string tension or climate changes.
Received My Aries today and I must admit, I was a bit disappointed. As I suspected several hours on a hot Fed ex truck and 100+ degree weather here in Las Vegas definitely effected my guitar contrary to the guys at Kiesel telling me that it would not. The neck was way out of whack and I had to make several adjustments. Every Unboxing demo of this guitar shows the user being surprised at how perfect the guitar was in tune after being shipped through various climates and in one case from California to Germany. I certainly had a different experience.
In New England here, and the stability during climate changes, and even sitting in my warm (not hot) car during the day, has been a life-saver. I have a few much more expensive guitars than my Kiesel, and the Kiesel has been my go-to for practice and play, partly because of this stability and reliability.
Very good job! Still I have a doung: why installing the steel truss rod? Doesn't carbon fiber stiffners rigid enough to stand strings tension?!
Absolutely the best guitar I’ve ever played and owned. Most stable and amazing tone.
once I heard that carbon fiber rod hit the table when you dropped I can tell thats some solid carbon fiber. wouldn't expect anything less from kiesel.
Ya wouldn’t the carbon fiber prevent the truss rod from working properly?
Can't wait to order my Aries this Saturday
Awesome. I really notice how sweet the guitar sounds with a straight neck. On my guitar it is a maple with rosewood skunk stripe. It keeps loosing tension and getting concave every once in a while and it messes the intonation. I have to always keep an eye on that sucker. Next purchase I will be smarter and get a guitar with a reinforced neck. String tension is really high even on 9's.
Who'd know that carbon is the answer to climate change...thanks Kiesel!
Looks like the strongest neck in the business.
+anongrey They're very strong, but not as strong as a Parker. Parkers have a carbon fiber glass composite fingerboard and the entire back of the guitar (headstock, neck, and body) is covered with a carbon fiber glass composite "skin," or "exoskeleton" as they call it. It's the same idea as the carbon fiber rod, but applied to the entire instrument. You can literally put one across two chairs and stand on it (Ken Parker did this for an advertisement once).
Vigier is the best.
I thought that all of Carvin's guitars and basses had two carbon rods in their necks.
need them on every model
Hey, what is the size of the carbon fiber rod? Also, how long it is?
Of course, only time will tell if they will gouch
I like that sound when it hits the table. Sounds strong.
What do you stick the Carbon Fibre rods in with ?
good carbon vs wood comparison
Add a compound radius fingerboard and I'm all yours.
Kiesel doesn't offer it. Just checked.
+KainzMusic just call. They take requests to your order on the phone.
I asked Jeff directly a while back and his response was "No". If things are different now I'll wait for Jeff to make an announcement.
+KainzMusic Do you believe that is necessary? Played a friend's A6 with a 20" radius(just about flat) and it's the best radius ever.
+Lions make you brave I've played compound radius necks for 25+ years and I firmly believe they make a difference. I know not everyone likes/believes in them.
Hey Kiesel Guitars...Can a customer order a Single Cut shaped body and have those Carbon Fiber Rods in the neck like the one in this video? Thanks for any info.
Rifle Twist We put carbon fiber rods in all of our necks, so yes!
carbon rods , ideal came from evh guitars, lets hear it for eddie!!!!
Probably because EVH also played a Parker guitar and that's where he got the idea.
Always learning something everyday
Big question: Is it worth getting a 5 piece neck if these carbon rods kinda fix the neck stability issue?
Anthonia M Because looks cool
Not unless your touring in different countries with temp changes affecting the neck, but if you have a high budget then why not..
It looks good, basically. Otherwise, You answered your own question...the rods will give you the extra stability.
Do you use PLEK(?) on your frets?
Hey yall, troll from everquest here; Still not as stiff as a schecter mahogany 3p neck with carbon rods like in my hellraiser 7 string. Because maple = bowflex. And maple neck sound = poop.
Make the whole neck with carbon fibre...