Man, it's really awesome to hear Mike Mearls talk about lore in D&D. The way he explains it, makes it seem like its actual history. "we dont know" "its believed" 10/10
D silva That's nice to listen to, if we weren't hearing it from a developer. If these were approached from a point of "oh he's what Xanather or Volo has found out" but these are "hey Mr.Developer, can you answer some questions?" and he says "Yeah sure! I uhh, I don't know."
Dungeon Dad - Yeah, Mike is the master of saying a bit without ever saying full detail. Unlike Jeremy, who sometimes speaks from on high like "This is the way it is, and no different." Don't get me wrong, I love both of them talking, but Mike seems to take pleasure in not saying things.
Like I say - I love both of them giving us any information that they are willing to give. And I absolutely love Mike's grasp of lore. For feel or colour of the universe, I will talk to Mike every time. But for strict rules interpretations I will listen to Jeremy.
You prolly dont care but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my girlfriend for the last few days xD
I homebrew the worship of Bahamut and Tiamat in my settings to be a bit more linked - Bahamut represents aspects of loyalty, caution, and wisdom, while Tiamat represents facets of courage, passion, and ambition. Dragonborn tend to invoke their blessings situationally. But I think it's totally fine if Tiamat, the actual monster, is Chaotic Evil because who the Hells cares how they worship her as long as they worship her? At least that's fun for me, hehe.
Thats an interesting inclusion of Tiamat. Just thinking of how my Platinum Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin might invoke Tiamat under his breath whenever he has to play bad cop haha.
I've done something similar in my campaign. Bahamut is worshipped for being a god of duty, order, peace, contentedness and Tiamat is a goddess worshipped for change, personal growth, power, and discontent. They are the two primary deities in my campaign and are intended to balance each other out, but of course, I have plot threads working to make Tiamat tip the power in her favor and unbalance the pantheon and unveiling her as being a god of true chaos and evil. I've also renamed them to keep this all hidden from my players.
Tying in the old real world creation myth of Tiamat and Apsu from Babylonian religion can be really useful with them too! Ive used it in the past with Dragonborn worshippers believing that their union, chaos and order, the sea and the land, begat the lesser races, but her getting jealous of their attention tried to slay them and return it to just they two. Bahamut interjects himself to protect them all, his avatar is slain, and its the anger and grief and guilt that drives her mad, bent on ending it all and remaking things for dragonkind alone.
There is 100+ types of dragon for each plane, disaster, color, ferrious metal, base metal, extraterrastial ect. How wpuld a plane of dragons would even work? Unless its a toy for a stellar draggon or any of the epic ones
"When you go to the other planes, there's no plane of dragons." Dragon Eyrie anyone? An Outer Plane for dragons might not exist *now* that the devs have scrapped the Forgotten Realms' unique cosmology, but I'm pretty sure that it *did* exist up until the Sundering/Spellplague/whatever in FR canon.
"And Tiamat?" "A point of balance in the beginning," Enlil said. "If there is order, then, too, must there be chaos. But this plane fed her worst nature, merged her with something too great to be balanced by us alone." -- The Devil You Know, Erin M. Evans
Sometimes... *The rainbow tastes you* Hey also fun fact when someone in my group tried to summon her, he summoned her incorrectly. So, when she came up, she was half dead and really angry. We killed her in fifteen minutes and I took her tooth and I use it for poison damage.
I tweeted asking about Tiamat last week. Tonight my group is doing the final chapter in "Rise of Tiamat". The timing of this video is so impossible that i think you made this for me!!! Thank You!!
That card is an outright reference to Tiamat, she is one of the most iconic villians in one of the most iconic tabletop games ever. Yu gi oh is filled with cards that reference other fantasy works.
I mean, on a far away distant world in an inaccessible crystal sphere unknown to those who travelled the phlogiston, a champion of Paladine stood against Takhisis and her dragonarmies with the aid of Paladine and banished her to the Abyss. I mean... Bahamut. Some champion of Bahamut. Uh. Banished... Tiamat... Yes. Yeeeees. To Avernus. Yeeeeeeeeees.
You actually hit upon one key difference in the lore there. In Dragonlance lore Takhsis resides in the Abyss, home to demons. In the 5E world Tiamat is imprisoned in Avernus which is one of the Nine Layers of Hell, home to devils. This may seem a small detail except that devils and demons hate each other.
Yup. I think the reasoning there is that Krynn does not have all the creatures in D&D (like not having lycanthropes or - I thiiiiink - orcs) and devils are specifically not present there.
Tiamat (from Rise of Tiamat, not Fizban's) is a CR 30 creature, but don't be fooled. This challenge rating was calculated based on several specific circumstances unique to the adventure Rise of Tiamat. If you use the stat block without context, you will likely TPK your players by accident.
I'm working on a homebrew campaign that has a new schism of the Cult of the Dragon, which would be more focused on holding territory in the Forgotten Realms. But really, it takes an ideological shift for Tiamat worshipers to a) not emulate their deity and hoard wealth, or b) give up all their wealth (ideally) to appease their deity. The Cult has to greatly suppress those tenets in order to have any creative-building power.
They really messed up Tiamats lore big time. In 3rd edition FR Tiamat had domains in both a Plane called Dragon's Eiyrie, and in the Untheric Pantheons Plane called Zigguraxus. In 4th edition Tiamat she was in Banehold serving Bane. Now she's been trapped in the Hells and have been retconned into having been there for a very long time.
Tiamat looks so cool, and her story of being the mother of all chromatic dragons makes her sound so ancient and powerful. She is the antithesis of Bahamut. Leave it at that! The whole nine hells and additional story hooks make no sense, don't fit the dragon theme, and trivialize an iconic big bad. Wizards what are you guys doing??? Just leave her as a cool big ass dragon.
I love the duality of the conflict between Bahamut and Tiamat. It creates such a unique platform for characters to grow and develop in strange and unique ways. The Dragonborn Ranger/Gunslinger I am OCing for CR's second campaign had his home destroyed by Vorugal when he was young but Arkhan appeared with the Hand of Vecna preaching about Tiamat to the huddled masses of displaced dragonborn and they sworn into his cult raiding and kidnapping people for the cults experiments with Dragonblood and creating halfdragons. Just prior to campagin 2 he was part of one such raid during which he was assaulted but a small child who began screaming the same words at him that he once screamed at Vorugal when Draconia fell. This shattering epiphany cause him to flee the cult, and his family. looking back at the monster he allowed himself to become he swore to use the tools that the cult tought him to bring them down he now seeks the aid of metallic dragons to create the first metallic guard drake what he likes to call "A living middle finger to everything Tiamats cult stands for"
So what would happen if the dragons and Tiamat tried overthrowing the realms. Like what would have to happen for Tiamat to finally command dragons to conquer the material plane and what would be the ramifications of that. I have to imagine its because she doesn't think she would survive Azmodeus and his armies so what would she need to do it. Maybe the dragons who fled during the Dragon and Giant war could come back or she could find a way to resurrect them. Or perhaps, since belief in a god gives that god power maybe she could grow her cult of worshipers enough that she does have the power to take hell. Just a weird thought, there's probably an adventure module out there that does something similar to that.
What I always found interesting is; on Tiamat's statblock provided in rise of Tiamat; she is classified as a fiend, not a dragon. Does this mean that Tiamat was always in the nine hells or the nine hells turns those who are imprisoned in them into fiends? Does the same logic also go for Bahamut making him a celestial?
I both like and dislike the fact that they don't know exactly how things went. Yes, it's neat that it's a mystery, but at the same time, Faeruun is YOUR creation! You should know what happened when, even if the characters in your creation don't.
There are two likely scenarios: 1. It's left unknown for story reasons. Leaving something mysterious makes the world more believable. It's unlikely there were written records of this, so why should most people know? If most people don't know, then why does the player need to know? 2. It's left open for DMs to put in whatever they want.
This is a device all DMs and writers use. They put in stuff even they don't know the answer to, and maybe they'll get to explain it later if people are interested in it.
who said Dragons don't rule the world? They are the most powerful beings in the mortal realms but they are also territorial and solitary, dragons don't want other dragons around and thats why other social races like humans can proliferate and overrun an area while the lone dragon slumbers on its hoard largely uninterested in the pests until they get too annoying. and well if a dragon is slain, the other dragons arent going to mourn, they'll just see an opportunity to grab a bigger hoard
I'm thinking of making a campaign where the players have to go around and kill all the chromatic dragons on an island because there doing a ritual to summon tiamat Can someone tell me if this makes sense
What ever happened to Zehir going from 4e to 5e? He and Tiamat had a great beef going on that i wanted to base an assassin on for rise of tiamat(evil PC pretending to be good just to fit in with other adventurers to foil Tiamat's plan for his god Zehir).
well since she's a goddess there are only a few ways to kill her like if you get a terrasque to eat her but as long as she has followers her death will not permanent
Tiamat isn't interested in ruling the Nine Hells. Nor does she participate in the blood war, though invading demons soon learn a painful lesson in why it's best to steer clear of her slice of Avernus.
looked up Takhisis, apparently she’s from the dragonlance universe. Tiamat is from the Faerun universe. these interviews talk about the lore in the Faerun universe because that’s the universe the company uses for 5e lore and adventures
It's simply because they're the same deity, just in different worlds.... put simply when the dragonlance series was written the authors couldn't use the name Tiamat because there were copyright issues in place. Takhisis is to Tiamat as Paladine is to Bahamut.
what copyright issues, the books were released by TSR and Dragonlance was an official campaign setting.... I think the real answer is that Dragonlance was based on Weiss and Hickman's own home campaign and they had Takhsis as the queen of dragons on Krynn (just as I have homebrewed a few select gods for my home campaign). However as time when on it became clear that there were a few of the gods in the Pantheon of Krynn that were identical to the original D&D gods. Its funny that Arkhan is mentioned as Joe has said numerous times that he sees Arkhan as a follower of Takhsis but I guess in order to make things less confusing to the masses he just used Tiamat. (He's a big Dragonlance fan).
one of my favorite campaigns i've ever been involved in was when my half orc monk, a half fae-half elf rogue/paladin, and a gnome paladin had to go 100 years into the future to a doomed timeline. this timeline was doomed because tiamat was in the process of eating the world. so, that was cool.
Tee-uh-maht. Not Tee-uh-matt. I wish Mike had gone into how Tiamat became a part of the D&D game, and her Sumerian origin in real world mythology. There’s some great stuff in Sumerian myth that can inspire a lot of ideas for a DM.
If you’re great dragons not ruling over a great span of land with armies of other creatures. You’re doing something wrong. Dragons are not some dumb creature who sleeps under a rock waiting for an adventurer to come around to slay the damn thing. Dragons are very intelligent, methodical, charismatic beans that has a great deal influence. Tons of experience and knowledge over the years they have lived. Able to cast insane amount of spells without the need to prepare or need material components for. Commanding great armies to protect their land and the dragon itself. Dragons are made more for role playing, building an adventure around the dragon.
Man, it's really awesome to hear Mike Mearls talk about lore in D&D. The way he explains it, makes it seem like its actual history. "we dont know" "its believed" 10/10
D silva
That's nice to listen to, if we weren't hearing it from a developer. If these were approached from a point of "oh he's what Xanather or Volo has found out" but these are "hey Mr.Developer, can you answer some questions?" and he says "Yeah sure! I uhh, I don't know."
Unfortunately it's kind of necessary to leave this stuff open for DMs to answer.
"Their creator... we think." I love Mike Mearls interviews.
Dungeon Dad - Yeah, Mike is the master of saying a bit without ever saying full detail. Unlike Jeremy, who sometimes speaks from on high like "This is the way it is, and no different."
Don't get me wrong, I love both of them talking, but Mike seems to take pleasure in not saying things.
James Wiebe I prefer meals on the dnd cosmology, but not on mechanics
Like I say - I love both of them giving us any information that they are willing to give. And I absolutely love Mike's grasp of lore. For feel or colour of the universe, I will talk to Mike every time. But for strict rules interpretations I will listen to Jeremy.
You prolly dont care but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my girlfriend for the last few days xD
@Theo Kieran Yup, been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself :D
I homebrew the worship of Bahamut and Tiamat in my settings to be a bit more linked - Bahamut represents aspects of loyalty, caution, and wisdom, while Tiamat represents facets of courage, passion, and ambition. Dragonborn tend to invoke their blessings situationally. But I think it's totally fine if Tiamat, the actual monster, is Chaotic Evil because who the Hells cares how they worship her as long as they worship her? At least that's fun for me, hehe.
Jonathan Herzog I am gonna borrow this sir thank you
Thats an interesting inclusion of Tiamat. Just thinking of how my Platinum Dragonborn Vengeance Paladin might invoke Tiamat under his breath whenever he has to play bad cop haha.
I've done something similar in my campaign. Bahamut is worshipped for being a god of duty, order, peace, contentedness and Tiamat is a goddess worshipped for change, personal growth, power, and discontent.
They are the two primary deities in my campaign and are intended to balance each other out, but of course, I have plot threads working to make Tiamat tip the power in her favor and unbalance the pantheon and unveiling her as being a god of true chaos and evil.
I've also renamed them to keep this all hidden from my players.
Tying in the old real world creation myth of Tiamat and Apsu from Babylonian religion can be really useful with them too! Ive used it in the past with Dragonborn worshippers believing that their union, chaos and order, the sea and the land, begat the lesser races, but her getting jealous of their attention tried to slay them and return it to just they two. Bahamut interjects himself to protect them all, his avatar is slain, and its the anger and grief and guilt that drives her mad, bent on ending it all and remaking things for dragonkind alone.
Basically Jedi va Sith
Mike Mearls is adorable and a pleasure to listen to. He so much loves this world he’s helped create.
"There's no Plane of Dragons..."
Not in the official setting, there isn't...
But homebrew? That's a different story.
There is 100+ types of dragon for each plane, disaster, color, ferrious metal, base metal, extraterrastial ect. How wpuld a plane of dragons would even work? Unless its a toy for a stellar draggon or any of the epic ones
"When you go to the other planes, there's no plane of dragons."
Dragon Eyrie anyone?
An Outer Plane for dragons might not exist *now* that the devs have scrapped the Forgotten Realms' unique cosmology, but I'm pretty sure that it *did* exist up until the Sundering/Spellplague/whatever in FR canon.
"And Tiamat?"
"A point of balance in the beginning," Enlil said. "If there is order, then, too, must there be chaos. But this plane fed her worst nature, merged her with something too great to be balanced by us alone."
-- The Devil You Know, Erin M. Evans
Sometimes...
*The rainbow tastes you*
Hey also fun fact when someone in my group tried to summon her, he summoned her incorrectly. So, when she came up, she was half dead and really angry. We killed her in fifteen minutes and I took her tooth and I use it for poison damage.
I tweeted asking about Tiamat last week. Tonight my group is doing the final chapter in "Rise of Tiamat". The timing of this video is so impossible that i think you made this for me!!! Thank You!!
Whatever book they are teasing cant come out soon enough.
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes, comes out March 2018
Robert Macneish had nothing about tiamat in there.
Wally Szarek the Abishai are her servants
That five-headed Dragon looks exactly like the five-headed dragon monster card in the anime called Yu-Gi-Oh but I could be wrong?
That card is an outright reference to Tiamat, she is one of the most iconic villians in one of the most iconic tabletop games ever. Yu gi oh is filled with cards that reference other fantasy works.
Todd seems WAY too excited about Tiamat right there at the beginning. Is there something you need to tell us?
I like evil
It's THE QUEEN OF DRAGONS! How can too excited exist?!
In my opinion Dragons are rare an would squabble about who rules. Their egos are too big.
*EXTREMELY POWERFULL GODDESS*
I mean, on a far away distant world in an inaccessible crystal sphere unknown to those who travelled the phlogiston, a champion of Paladine stood against Takhisis and her dragonarmies with the aid of Paladine and banished her to the Abyss.
I mean... Bahamut. Some champion of Bahamut. Uh. Banished... Tiamat... Yes.
Yeeeees.
To Avernus.
Yeeeeeeeeees.
You actually hit upon one key difference in the lore there. In Dragonlance lore Takhsis resides in the Abyss, home to demons. In the 5E world Tiamat is imprisoned in Avernus which is one of the Nine Layers of Hell, home to devils. This may seem a small detail except that devils and demons hate each other.
Yup.
I think the reasoning there is that Krynn does not have all the creatures in D&D (like not having lycanthropes or - I thiiiiink - orcs) and devils are specifically not present there.
UnimportantHero going back to 2nd edition I believe they made it clear that the Abyss is what the inhabitants of Krynn call the Nine Hells.
Thanks for that interview. It provides additional food for thought on the plot I'm putting together for tier 4 play.
Mike Mearls is the Larry Bird of the D&D - multiverse he will steal the Hand of Vectar and dunk on youre orcs while he schools you
Tiamat in here??
-Fujimaru_ritsuka
-mashu
-ishtar
-kingu
-merlin
-king_hassan
-ereshkigall
SFX*JOINED THE BATTLE
Tiamat (from Rise of Tiamat, not Fizban's) is a CR 30 creature, but don't be fooled. This challenge rating was calculated based on several specific circumstances unique to the adventure Rise of Tiamat. If you use the stat block without context, you will likely TPK your players by accident.
I like to play Tiamat as the goddess of chaos rather than Evil. Then her heads range in personality between good to evil.
I mean she is named after a primordial Babylonian Sea goddess of chaos and creation. So it does make sense.
The Forgotten Realms used to have a plane called Dragon's Eryie.
Gyor Gyor
yeah but nobody likes that setting so its ok
Heimskr, Prophet of Talos that no one likes the Forgotten Realms is news to me!
I'm about to run Red Hand of Doom. So the more Tiamat the better.
My Drow worships Tiamatt. He finds her interesting.
Krynn is the dragons home plane. Takhisis => Tiamat
Hey look it's Tiamat dragon!!! XD
D&D the animated series episode 1
I'm working on a homebrew campaign that has a new schism of the Cult of the Dragon, which would be more focused on holding territory in the Forgotten Realms. But really, it takes an ideological shift for Tiamat worshipers to a) not emulate their deity and hoard wealth, or b) give up all their wealth (ideally) to appease their deity. The Cult has to greatly suppress those tenets in order to have any creative-building power.
Tiamats grand and all but where the hell is bahamut?
He got bare a few sentaces as a note on hm
He is spending his time dressed up as an old man so he can hang out in some backwoods small town tavern on Krynn. It is much more relaxing.
My silver Dragonborn Ranger is a devout follower of bahamut and I want to know more about him and how they worship him.
NeonFlame I would recommend googling him. When I started dming I did research on the pantheon which made my world so much more flushed out.
They really messed up Tiamats lore big time. In 3rd edition FR Tiamat had domains in both a Plane called Dragon's Eiyrie, and in the Untheric Pantheons Plane called Zigguraxus. In 4th edition Tiamat she was in Banehold serving Bane. Now she's been trapped in the Hells and have been retconned into having been there for a very long time.
And in 1st edition Tiamat ruled the 1st Plane of Hell. That was canon until Forgotten Realm became the default world and all others perished.
Didn't really mess it up so much as go in a different direction.
Tiamat looks so cool, and her story of being the mother of all chromatic dragons makes her sound so ancient and powerful. She is the antithesis of Bahamut. Leave it at that! The whole nine hells and additional story hooks make no sense, don't fit the dragon theme, and trivialize an iconic big bad. Wizards what are you guys doing??? Just leave her as a cool big ass dragon.
I love the duality of the conflict between Bahamut and Tiamat. It creates such a unique platform for characters to grow and develop in strange and unique ways. The Dragonborn Ranger/Gunslinger I am OCing for CR's second campaign had his home destroyed by Vorugal when he was young but Arkhan appeared with the Hand of Vecna preaching about Tiamat to the huddled masses of displaced dragonborn and they sworn into his cult raiding and kidnapping people for the cults experiments with Dragonblood and creating halfdragons.
Just prior to campagin 2 he was part of one such raid during which he was assaulted but a small child who began screaming the same words at him that he once screamed at Vorugal when Draconia fell. This shattering epiphany cause him to flee the cult, and his family. looking back at the monster he allowed himself to become he swore to use the tools that the cult tought him to bring them down he now seeks the aid of metallic dragons to create the first metallic guard drake what he likes to call "A living middle finger to everything Tiamats cult stands for"
The tiamat is the mystic dragon
So what would happen if the dragons and Tiamat tried overthrowing the realms. Like what would have to happen for Tiamat to finally command dragons to conquer the material plane and what would be the ramifications of that. I have to imagine its because she doesn't think she would survive Azmodeus and his armies so what would she need to do it. Maybe the dragons who fled during the Dragon and Giant war could come back or she could find a way to resurrect them. Or perhaps, since belief in a god gives that god power maybe she could grow her cult of worshipers enough that she does have the power to take hell. Just a weird thought, there's probably an adventure module out there that does something similar to that.
What I always found interesting is; on Tiamat's statblock provided in rise of Tiamat; she is classified as a fiend, not a dragon. Does this mean that Tiamat was always in the nine hells or the nine hells turns those who are imprisoned in them into fiends? Does the same logic also go for Bahamut making him a celestial?
Turned into bad agent Coopers nodoubt
GOD HAD ME DESTROY MY RED DRAGON LAMP TWICE. VANQUISH THE EVIL 5 HEADED DRAGONS, WITCHES, WARLOCKS, AND GOATS TO HELL !!!
Tiamat is a good item
Still people fucking this up in Neverwinter that can't figure it out.
What did he say we could read about the dracolitches? Tier new dragons
If the dragons' main weakness is their lack of structure what would happen if the illithids started controlling some..?
Them subtitles at 3:33
This is deep ass lore
I both like and dislike the fact that they don't know exactly how things went. Yes, it's neat that it's a mystery, but at the same time, Faeruun is YOUR creation! You should know what happened when, even if the characters in your creation don't.
There are two likely scenarios:
1. It's left unknown for story reasons. Leaving something mysterious makes the world more believable. It's unlikely there were written records of this, so why should most people know? If most people don't know, then why does the player need to know?
2. It's left open for DMs to put in whatever they want.
D&D tries to leave it as open as possible so that DMs have room to create whatever they want in the narrative
This is a device all DMs and writers use. They put in stuff even they don't know the answer to, and maybe they'll get to explain it later if people are interested in it.
Kaipyro67ALT Forgotten Realms is actually Ed Greenwood's
I've made one of my players the key to freeing tiamat and now he's so scared it's funny
I am running T.oD.
What did you do?
What about the character makes them able to free her?
sometimes the rainbow eats you
There is no story about how she ended in hell? And what about the five heads?
who said Dragons don't rule the world? They are the most powerful beings in the mortal realms but they are also territorial and solitary, dragons don't want other dragons around and thats why other social races like humans can proliferate and overrun an area while the lone dragon slumbers on its hoard largely uninterested in the pests until they get too annoying.
and well if a dragon is slain, the other dragons arent going to mourn, they'll just see an opportunity to grab a bigger hoard
In D & D is there a Character of Venger from the old cartoon or is that just a vampire or Demon? Just wondered cause I thought he was cool.
Mike this was a LEWK
I'm thinking of making a campaign where the players have to go around and kill all the chromatic dragons on an island because there doing a ritual to summon tiamat
Can someone tell me if this makes sense
Tiamat. Such a useful item! Or wait a moment... I think I’m in the wrong game :/
Yet it isn't even a dragon, it's a hydra
Me and my team fought this god yesterday and almost died
What ever happened to Zehir going from 4e to 5e? He and Tiamat had a great beef going on that i wanted to base an assassin on for rise of tiamat(evil PC pretending to be good just to fit in with other adventurers to foil Tiamat's plan for his god Zehir).
Lunaras
snek is kill
no more snek
when did that happen? non of the wikis I saw had that
Nice red leather jacket, Todd!
What I learned "idk we aren't sure".
Nathan Honabach
that's most of these videos.
Godamnit! I need to know about Tiamat and how to kill her! Not about aging Dragons and giant gods! Preferably till next Saturday.....
well since she's a goddess there are only a few ways to kill her like if you get a terrasque to eat her but as long as she has followers her death will not permanent
since I'm discussing wardrobe: Dark collar under white sweater, Mike? C'mon!
is there a video where he talks about bahumut?
Why don't Tiamat challenge Asmodeus? Can someone please respond?
Tiamat isn't interested in ruling the Nine Hells. Nor does she participate in the blood war, though invading demons soon learn a painful lesson in why it's best to steer clear of her slice of Avernus.
So basically... we were told nothing about Tiamat :/
The headline was more informative than the interview
Why is Tiamat mentioned so much more than Takhisis in the current iteration of D&D, and can someone explain to me the difference?
looked up Takhisis, apparently she’s from the dragonlance universe. Tiamat is from the Faerun universe. these interviews talk about the lore in the Faerun universe because that’s the universe the company uses for 5e lore and adventures
Further, Tiamat has been part of D&D for a bit longer, being in Greyhawk, and was also part of the old cartoon series
It's simply because they're the same deity, just in different worlds.... put simply when the dragonlance series was written the authors couldn't use the name Tiamat because there were copyright issues in place. Takhisis is to Tiamat as Paladine is to Bahamut.
what copyright issues, the books were released by TSR and Dragonlance was an official campaign setting.... I think the real answer is that Dragonlance was based on Weiss and Hickman's own home campaign and they had Takhsis as the queen of dragons on Krynn (just as I have homebrewed a few select gods for my home campaign). However as time when on it became clear that there were a few of the gods in the Pantheon of Krynn that were identical to the original D&D gods.
Its funny that Arkhan is mentioned as Joe has said numerous times that he sees Arkhan as a follower of Takhsis but I guess in order to make things less confusing to the masses he just used Tiamat. (He's a big Dragonlance fan).
Khellendross well, that's the deal, Weiss and Hickman own Dragonlance, TSR was basically a licensee
one of my favorite campaigns i've ever been involved in was when my half orc monk, a half fae-half elf rogue/paladin, and a gnome paladin had to go 100 years into the future to a doomed timeline. this timeline was doomed because tiamat was in the process of eating the world. so, that was cool.
🛡🏇😇
Thas fine just gonna stick to takhisis
RUTGERMORTENSEN
literally the same god, kiddo
Tee-uh-maht. Not Tee-uh-matt.
I wish Mike had gone into how Tiamat became a part of the D&D game, and her Sumerian origin in real world mythology. There’s some great stuff in Sumerian myth that can inspire a lot of ideas for a DM.
If you’re great dragons not ruling over a great span of land with armies of other creatures. You’re doing something wrong.
Dragons are not some dumb creature who sleeps under a rock waiting for an adventurer to come around to slay the damn thing.
Dragons are very intelligent, methodical, charismatic beans that has a great deal influence. Tons of experience and knowledge over the years they have lived. Able to cast insane amount of spells without the need to prepare or need material components for. Commanding great armies to protect their land and the dragon itself.
Dragons are made more for role playing, building an adventure around the dragon.
360p?
That was a whole lot of nothing!!
Not very helpful
i had more question after watching this... not helpful.
Tiamat is not the evil goddess of dragons she is the demon queen of dragons and that is why she is part of the nine hells ,sorry but your wrong ...
First
Them subtitles at 3:33