Has Star Trek Been Saved !?!? New Reboot Details + Casting News !!!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- It looks like the Star Trek franchise could be headed for a reboot in the near future, with the recent news that Paramount has hired a new individual to head their film franchise. While also announcing that a star with over 40 years of film and television credits has been cast in their newest series. Hey Everyone, my name is Eric and Welcome to What Did I Miss. Where today I will be discussing these two new hires into the world of Star Trek and why I believe it is a definite sign of where the franchise intends to head towards thematically.
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You’re confusing Starfleet which was preexisting in 2150 and The Federation which did not exist until 2161
No, this is a common misconception. But Earth Starfleet is not the same organization as the current Starfleet. This is why the ships now use the NCC prefix instead of the NX prefix and why Starfleet's charter (boldly go where no one has gone before) was established in 2161. memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet
@@WhatDidIMiss The NX prefix is used on new experimental ships until they clear their shakedown phase. Hence NX 2000 Excelsior in ST III and NCC 2000 Excelsior in ST VI.
EDIT: NX literally stands for Naval Experiment as opposed to Naval Construction Contract. NX is about the number of the ship, not its name.
Starfleet incorporated the ships of other member worlds after the Federation Charter was signed. So no, it's not a misconception at all.
@@WhatDidIMissActually The USS Prefix was Preceded by the SS Prefix and the NX Prefix was actually used in Experimental ships Such as NX-01 Enterprise or NX-2000 Excelsior while Fully Commissioned Ships are the Standard NCC
@@noneya3635 Agree to disagree.
@@HKN48 I actually meant to say NCC instead of USS. Thank you.
As long as Secret Hideout or Bad Robots get involved in the making of ST, I guarantee you that it will be a disaster and not a save
If it's going to be a spinoff of Discovery, how exactly will that save Star Trek?
That unwatchable shit does not deserve to be here in the first place.
Exactly, I can not even make it through an episode of Discovery, its so bad
By continuing to be awesome.
@@tnickknight Kind of explains why Paramount is so broke.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Another STD?
Could they just make old school Star Trek for the older trekkies and then experiment with the new stuff separately? I just want to see the old school swashbuckling exploration.
It's been judged as politically incorrect to have male heroes, they even excluded Captain Kirk from the last Star Trek promotions. Hollywood has died.
I disagree. Star Trek was focused too much on Kirk. It’s time to show other characters. I don’t have a problem with male heroes at all. They should be diverse and not just White Men.
@@Globalman43 Diversity is a worthless goal. Representation is a sad joke, it really doesn't matter. Minorities are too small to bother catering to, no money in that tactic, as Hollywood are finding out to their cost.
They make sooo many different kinds of Trek now, but absolutely refuse to make even one traditional Star Trek show. I wonder why that might be...
@@Globalman43Nobody has a problem with that. We loved Sisko and Janeway. The problem is the quality of the new shows and the low-key anti-men, anti-white attitude. There is a clear disdain. That's not an enlightened Star Trek. It's regressive.
If you’re trying to save StarTrek, you should be staying as far away from Discovery as you can.
Agree completely
Amen.
No doubt.
Oh my God, Starfleet Academy being located on a ship, what an original concept.... Except for it's not, Filmation did it in the 1970's with a series called "Space Academy".
Then it's time to remake Space Academy! I will write the script for the pilot and I will be in charge of casting.
Iam sooooo tired of the studio not listening to the fanbase no Starfleet academy no section 31 no first contact prequel.
How hard is it to do a sequel to picard with the enterprise G or a new crew entirely on a new ship dam CBS..
Agree 100%
that would take courage something modern execs dont have anymore
Exactly. This franchise has been utterly ruined ever since Enterprise ended. Those in charge need to grow a spine, toss out all the woke activists and start listening to the fans.
With the exception of Picard season 3, nothing i have seen since 2005 has been legitimate Star trek.
Sorry I vehemently disagree. As an artist myself, I love and respect my fans and following, but the creation, core, existence, function, needs of my art has little to do with fans. I’d venture to say that any artist who creates and focuses more on the reaction to his or her art verse the art itself, its needs, purpose and the creation process to bring it about, is going to produce crap, which is exactly what we have been getting ever since the 70s. Too much reliance on focus groups, reactions to the art, and demographics rather than the art itself was an early birth of this malignancy, and has now given fans swelled heads and delusions of grandeur. As fans, you are not part of the creative process of true art… my art. Only your interest, investment, time and reaction to my art is valuable, whether positive or negative. For that I am grateful and beholden to you. Nothing more.
Exactly, this is what i keep saying. It's all most of us Fans want. All they have to do is keep that consistency and move into a whole new "Era". It would still attract NEW FANS because there will be New Characters" and as you said a New Ship.
I wouldn't have even minded "Michael Burnham" the *spore drive* and just the whole "Discovery" starship, IF they were ALL set in a NEW ERA 100 years after the time of Voyager. But STD where it is now i just can't accept it.
None of this sounds promising. After years of seeing this franchise bastardised, it is foolish to see anything change so long as the current regime remains in control of it.
No, the founding of STARFLEET was not shoehorned anywhere. Starfleet already existed at the START of Enterprise. It was the founding of the FEDERATION that was shoehorned into Enterprise's season finale.
I answered this on another comment but this is not correct. Earth Starfleet existed before the Federation and then when the Federation was formed the organization was changed from Earth Starfleet to just Starfleet. This is why the ships have the NX prefix instead of the current USS prefix that all Federation ships use. memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet
@@WhatDidIMiss It is times like this is when I get happy....
that the white population is in decline.
@@WhatDidIMiss you clearly don't know anything about Star-Trek...
@@WhatDidIMiss NX wasn't replaced by USS, it was replaced by NCC and is used for the registry number. Although it's never really established in canon, NCC is generally assumed to mean "naval construction contract" and NX "naval experimental." (The real reason for NCC is that private planes often began with NC, and so Roddenberry just added another C.) The names of the ships are preceded by USS, which stands for "United Space Ship" and is akin to HMS (His Majesty's Ship) and USS (United States Ship).
@@WhatDidIMissNX was a prefix used for experimental craft. How can anyone watch your channel when the integrity of your knowledge is called into question and you bat it off as if you know more….when it’s quite clear that your information is incorrect and can be certified incorrect by many canon websites and by the to shows themselves. Do better!
This sounds like a terrible idea Why did the insist on throwing Money for bad ideas.
@@n.a.larson9161 “professionals“ have tanked Star Trek , Star Wars , Indiana Jones , Terminator, MCU … and the list goes on and on. Stop settling for woke garbage. Demand better
@@n.a.larson9161
Something a groomer would say sicko 😂🤣😂🤣
@@jamiemezs9891 I'm just an actual adult human being. And you're someone acting like a troll. Calm down, Jamie.
@@n.a.larson9161
Then stop acting like a pervert. ❤
@@joeylodes the moment you said "woke" you lost all credibility.
This is not a reboot, this will not save Star Trek, this will continue to alienate fans. If you want to save Star Trek here is the easy 3-step way you do it. 1. You take everything post-Enterprise and retcon it out of existence. 2. Create a new show set during the TNG era on a ship exploring the galaxy. After years of war with the Dominion and the Borg attack on Earth, Starfleet is back to exploration so it has a positive, aspirational feel. 3. You do not under any circumstances have any kind of political messaging in the show, instead you do what it's always done and hold up a magnifying glass on society and examine it from all angles without ever passing judgement, and you do this through great writing. Congratulations, now you have a Star Trek show.
this...
Agreed on most but there was ‘politics ‘ in Star Trek and issues of race (what was the episode with half black and white race and the ‘others’ were reverse)Klingons and Romulans - like Chinese and Russians.
Well said
Too late for no political messaging unfortunately.
@@paulvoas3328 Vietnam War-"A Private Little War", the evils of having to conform to a society's standard-"The Return of the Archons", the list goes on
All I want to know is if it is another woke joke?
Absolutely...I couldn't get into Discovery. Just no. Picard final season was good but the others...meh
Short answer yes
The last reboot worked so well....
Agreed. The franchise does not need a 'reboot', it just needs to cut out the cancer infecting it since 2009 and carry on from where Voyager left off.
@@MagnanimousEntropy Well that would be one Alex Kurtzman wouldn't it
There was no reboot. There was a different timeline
I didn't like the third film, same failure as TOS film #1, too much special effects were very sleep inducing.
@@RaikenXion Indeed, and all his minions.
So more people producing Star Trek that know little, if anything about Star Trek. Hooray.
The best thing Paramount can do is just declare everything after ST:Enterprise was a bad dream. Then time jump the franchise 50 years beyond the TNG era and begin a new era of wonder and exploration. No more prequels to TOS.
Strange New Worlds has those Trek vibes we missed
@@FekalistaGrzybowory-lz8lh Yeah, the Klingon boy band really screamed "Trek vibes." Literally.
This is what STD SHOULD HAVE BEEN
@@kettch777 😂😂
@@FekalistaGrzybowory-lz8lh If it wasn’t for Discovery, there would be no Strange New Worlds nor Lower Decks, Prodigy, and Starfleet Academy.
There has not been any real Trek, since Enterprise ended (excluding Picard season 3) They turned Roddenberrys better new world, into another dystopia . THey should sink all the latest garbage,
I find myself in full agreement with you! Jar Jar Abrams said, FOCK Vulcan, FOCK the fans, FOCK everyone! I'm doing it my way, & also FOCK established Canon!
It's sad to say the best current Star Trek is Lower Decks...
Sadly I have to agree. Enterprise was the end of Star Trek. (With the exception of Picard Season 3)
Lower deck.
Really its star trek anime .
@@JoseArmstrongur letting nostalgia get u. Season 3 was just as much not star trek as the rest of this garbage
I am sick of Trek reboots. I'm pretty sure the fans have been telling producers what they want - Star Trek Legacy with a Seven of Nine captain.
How many of these new fangled projects have to fail before someone gets it?
Agree the only thing they fucked up was just randomly making her a lesbian when she never had those tendencies on Voyager,,She was straight or at least only showed sexual interest in Males
Sick, sick, sick!
Legacy or bust! Seriously. Fans AND cast members want that show to happen. Frakes is still hopeful. Not sure why they don't green-light that one?!
Does she have to be woke?
@brianr3699 well they made 7 of 9 lesbian out of nowhere when she was straight before so..
I'd prefer a show set in the Next Generation era, so in 2401, where Picard ended.
Why would they INFECT it with anyone from Discovery?
Discovery exists to change everyone's mind about the worst series being DS9.
@@Squidbush8563who thinks DS9 is the worst?
Out of the original continuation of roddenberry/berman trek most people would say enterprise.....
But I would take all of them over everything now!!
@@Squidbush8563 You misspelled Voyager.
More woke crap and because Alex Kurtzman has a stake in Discovery Trek, so he won't f**k off and leave it alone any time soon.
@@Welsh_Dragon756 Enterprise was the last good series they made. And like the idiots they are they canceled it 3 years too soon!
all i can picture in hollywood is someone hitting ctrl-alt-del over and over and over again. my god the creative bankruptcy is stunning.
Well, Hollywood is run by liberals.
I only watched the first couple of episodes of Discovery and thought it was garbage. I never went back to watching Trek, and I've been a fan since I was a kid in the 70's. The last Trek I watched was Voyager or DS9.
To the nice folks at Paramount: You don't need to keep rebooting stuff. Star Trek has proven over and over again that you can introduce a whole new cast and whole new situation and have it be successful. TNG was different from TOS, DS9 was different from TNG, and so on. Even the current crop (Discovery, SNW, Lower Decks, Prodigy) have completely different characters from anything that came before, and are STILL successful. Enough with "reboot fever" already.
Discovery was not successful it was largely rejected by Star Trek fans. That said, new films can be done of the original crew and new actors without having to re-introduce the characters every time. They can cover periods not covered by the original series. People know Kirk and his crew just like people know Batman or Spider-Man.
@@HepCatJackhe idea that fans largely rejected discovery is a narrative pushed by media influencers who make their money complaining about everything.
Well, with the last movie reboot, there has been a few deaths with some of the major actors to deal with. Besides, it sounds like the video is just talking about sequels not actually reboots.
@@HepCatJack no, there’s a lot of fans who like Discovery. There’s obviously a lot that don’t, too, but you can’t please everyone all of the time.
You lost me at Disco was successful 😂
Why can't Star Trek just pick up after Nemesis with the Titan? It's ok to have a show without the Enterprise for a while. They did it with Voyager just fine. After a while, the Titan can be destroyed, and a new Enterprise take over. But ENOUGH of the reboots. We've covered this ground and time frame already. Let's do something in the 25th century and beyond with that new Enterprise I just mentioned.
The BEST thing they could do for future Star Trek is to dump all this pre-Next Gen crap and do what Trek used to do best: MOVE FORWARD!
There was the original series, next gen, DS9, and Voyager. Then they lost the plot by going back and playing the Fill Up The Timeline game. Worst... move... ever! Now that S.T. Picard is ending, the next series should take place after then, and they should NEVER go into their past again.
I have spoken!
Nice try... Discovery is inevadible being set in 32. century now. There is no going forward from Picard onwards that does not eventually get there. Or let's say we could, but there would be no point. We're stuck. Thanks Alex Kurzman!
Isn't "City on the Edge of Forever" generally regarded as one of, if not the very best, episodes of TOS?
@@jackabug2475 Yeah but Time Travel episodes are not the same as setting an entire series prior to the canon timeline. That's why I liked the idea of S.T. Picard, because it was not another prequel series like Discovery and Enterprise.
Seek out new life and new civilizations. It's the Star Trek way.
Reboots, woke shit, bad acting, bad story telling...
Reboot again??? Can those people understand once and for all "we don't need or want reboots" surely not reboot of a reboot. Go back and continue where Voyager finished; same era, same style of narrative and same style of the series that was TNG - DS9 - VOY. Quality over flashier productions and constant characters with personal issues or identity crissis. We want optimistic space adventures as old Star Treks were once upon a time... and no lanceflares
Now a prequel movie none of us in the fanbase want a prequel a sequel is needed new crew on an advanced new ship sequel set after picard..
I agree that I would love to see Star Trek Legacy (or whatever they would call it). However, I am also looking forward to the lost-era stuff they've been talking about.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. Prequels are lazy ideas, developed by lazy producers.
I'd rather have a continuation of "Enterprise" (at least the 5th-7th seasons to close out the series) than all these "Discovery" and JJ Abbrams versions. Can dogkind (Porthos) and Andoriankind be included?
How about a Star Trek that deals with a Starship where all the crew are deaf?
@@trhansen3244 Interesting idea, but it would open a real can of space worms. In the name of equal representation, they would have to have ships entirely crewed by blind people, autistic people, ADD people (that would be an interesting one), people in wheelchairs, gay people, trans people, etc.
Easier to simply have all kinds of people serving on any ship in the fleet.🤓
“Star Trek” is DEAD!! This is all just window dressing Paramount Pictures is placing forth, but nothing will come of it, much like a “fourth feature film” they keep teasing the fandom with. The analytical and insightful narratives of the Roddenberry/Nimoy “Star Trek” are forever gone and scoffed by the new people trying to bring this franchise ahead. But they won’t since Paramount could care less.
So rebooting the reboot. Well if it doesn't work you know they will just reboot it
Time to face the truth it's been over and will never be startrek ever again don't even watch anymore
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If Bad Robot or Kurtzman are involved, it'll be a guaranteed dumpster fire. Bring back The Orville.
Recast everyone and make movies from the Shatnerverse novels.
ANOTHER REBOOT?! Can we move into a TNG, Voyager or a DS9 film?? If it's woke, I ain't going...
Voyager and DS9 cast were treated so badly after their series. They did the fans of those shows a MASSIVE disservice by giving a few characters (except Worf) stupidly pointless cameos.
Trek has been "woke" since before it was a word you even knew.
@@MJG206 there is a huge difference between being preachy and a naturally diverse crew that is there because of their skills.
@@MJG206 Nope, as someone who has watched Trek since it started it only turned woke this century. It used to celebrate diversity, now it preaches that men are bad, women are superior and all the other woke nonsense being preached in a patronising, clumsy way they do. DEI initiatives are blatant and unbearable.
@@lancelange9377 ¿Porque no los dos?
Reboot? Lack of imagination.
Saving Star Trek? Well I actually like Strange New Worlds and l'm looking forward to the next season. Discovery sucks, the first season of Picard was ok, the rest sucks. The new movies are not bad. My favorite series are TOS and DS9 but I also love TNG, Voyager and ENT. However as a Star Trek fan you you should always be open for something new, exploring new movies or series is like exploring new worlds, planets and stars... ;)
"However as a Star Trek fan you you should always be open for something new, exploring new movies or series is like exploring new worlds, planets and stars... ;)"
Let us celebrate Star Trek's infinite diversity in infinite combinations!
Agreed...Strange New Worlds was a breath of fresh air....and Anson Mount is asolid actor
this is not a good idea, between lower decks and strange new worlds and perhaps a seven of nine series, lets focus on these shows that have already cemented them selves. to much at one time will ruined the franchise as a whole. disney tried to do this with star wars and marvel... lets dont over saturate the market and just stick with the stories that we need to finish before we move on
There SO MANY loose threads left in TNG, Voyager and DS9 that could have potentially been turned into movies or mini series that a reboot was entirely unnecessary and what they are doing now is more likely to push away more fans rather than make things better for the Star Trek property.
One of the few things Disney did right was to make mini series exploring aspects of Star Wars and the MCU. There's tons of things in the Star Trek universe that could benefit from the same treatment.
Star Trek Discovery was such a bomb, I wouldn't want anything to do with it. They should treat that series as non-cannon crap and let it slip into obscurity and start from scratch.
Aww, does the poor baby not like people who don't look like him taking up too much screen time?
They’d have better luck with a prequel of the prequel.. ‘Star Trek Babies’ an animated kid show.
Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of all these reboots. I want to see continuing adventures of characters that we've grown to love, not start all over again with younger versions of themselves (or their predecessors!).
Here's an idea: Outside of whatever else they plan, Paramount can give a modest amount of money to a group of exceptional Sci-fi writers and producers to make a Trek show just like TOS, TNG, DS9. This will give the OG fans what they want, and let's see how the ratings are.
This sounds terrible, absolutely terrible.
Star Trek already was rebooted successfully, it’s called The Orville
The STD spreads from one show to another. We need antibiotics and distance.
Ya know, just pick up the timeline from the end of DS9 and Voyager. TNG, DS9, and Voyager are the ones we, the fans, binge over and over, and the time we’ve been asking to continue for decades. That’s why Lower Decks is so popular. It’s really that simple, respect the lore (and data ;)
Star Trek II, IV and VI are the top three.
You, understand what makes Trek great!
The even-numbered films rule!
Discovery is not canon. The Kelvin timeline has run its course. Let's get back to basics with Star Trek The Third Generation with what Star Trek stood for from the very beginning and move forward from there. Please please please!!
Strange new worlds is the only decent series to come out in quite a while. Keep them coming.
SNW had a couple of good episodes in the first season but the quality dropped rapidly after that, embracing the std reboot nonsense and changing the characters too far from their original versions that they were based on. I will NEVER watch the musical episode.
Yep, they ruined SNW as well.
It was good when they had episodes on exploration. One or two. Then the rest was for under 10s. What a waste.
SNW is now a sitcom missing the laugh track.
Lets just say i. Still boycotting tje jar jar verse star trek and i apologize to jar jar binks for the insult by comparison.
Hate to be a stickler, but the creation of Starfleet hasn’t yet been witnessed on screen, as far as I’m aware… the founding of the United Federation of Planets was shoehorned into the end of Enterprise… but Starfleet predates Enterprise.
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No news makes me happy about good old Star Trek. They destroyed the whole thing :(
I am tired of the reboots when the tone and message of the show doesn’t line up with what made the franchise great.
I love mr shatner... but his time is gone. We have seen many other actors pick up the kiry mantle and do a good job.
Holly Hunter is a great addition to the ST universe. Hopefully the writing will be up to her considerable ability.
Doubt it.
The "Woke" writers corps, will ruin everything.
Trek, wars, Marvel ...pretty much anything coming out of Hollywierd, is crap.
No. Too old, for starters. And without a doubt too woke. The writing for Star Trek has been abysmal for about 20 years now.
She was a success on Batman vs Superman.
As a long time fan of Star Trek, I'd like to see the franchise 'fill in' the time between ENT and TOS.
I'd prefer moving away from the hackneyed time travel and alternate future plotlines.
Just a good old 'these are the voyages' format harkening back to the TOS days.
Maybe starting with the creation of the Federation and going on to the Romulan war.
I've always thought that the last episode of ENT isn't canon, since it was a holodeck simulation and was an interpretation of events that could have been exaggerated/invented for dramatic effect.
I'd like to see as many of the ENT original cast brought back to see how the Star Trek universe appears twenty years after ENT ended (excluding the final episode).
Or maybe they could open with a visibly older (now Admiral) Archer visiting the bridge of the NX-01 in a museum and go from there.
I'd watch that.
Paraphrasing, “It’s possible Starfleet Academy could be on a a ship…” So… in other words… a remake of Filmation’s “Space Academy?” (Great show, by the way - but Gen X’ers like me will recognize it if they try to rip it off thinking, no one will remember it. I ain’t dead yet, and I ain’t that old yet! Just sayin’.) 😉
How is this a reboot? A reboot would mean throwing out everything that has happened and starting completely over with a new continuity, and typically a retelling of the story that has already happened. As for Kirk coming back. NO. I don't need to see any of those characters again. I don't need to see any characters from any series again. All the stories that have been told are done. It is a huge universe with a long timeline. Plenty of opportunity to tell something fresh. Hopefully, Academy will be it, but with the awful writing we've been subjected to I'm not hopeful. That shot was at the whole guild. Next time they want to go on strike, they should go find other jobs and let someone else take over.
It's so bad, I don't even get excited about new announcements anymore. My first thought about anything coming out is "It's probably going to suck." History will not look back kindly at what we are getting to watch now.
I was wondering if I was just being a bit too bitter. So, I read the other comments. Yeah, we're all feeling it.
It's not a reboot and so many people are so bitter.
I'll watch anything Star Trek ❤
That is not good.
So you have no discernment? You don't care if it's trash as long as the name 'Star Trek' is slapped on it?
@johnsieversse8288, me too
I can only imagine this being all about personal relationships and more sappy drippy emo and love stories over SciFi. The only thing Trek about it would be the setting. Just like the new Dr. Who that just had the worst ratings in it's long history due to it's preaching over story telling. Trek is giving older fans the middle finger like the new Dr. Who did in trying to attract the younger crowd instead of trying a more broad appeal.
If you think Star Trek is primarily about science fiction, you have been watching it wrong.
If we really get Holly Hunter as captain I will surely celebrate.
She will be an amazing captain, she's such a great and accomplished actor, and I bet she will do great. As in "Patrick Steward" great.
Sure I can see all 4’11 of her as a star fleet captain punching a 6’5 Klingon to the ground.. Picard was a stretch but please holly hunter…
@@tywynn7270Did you not like Janeway? Or are you one of these people who scream about the diversity filled franchise about space communists going “woke”
I like Jane way and voyager. The show was written for a different time when they didn’t have an agenda in every tv shows or movies. Voyager was written how society was back then just like the original show. Agenda of today is in your face when they talk tolerance which Woke is nothing of. Discovery is full in your face crap and constant crying. You think any military forces have solders crying all time and be a killing machine.. trek of today is more like Woke Trek seek out new more men to hate.
@@JohnTaylorSimmons The criticism of Discovery is unrelated to the comment I was reacting to, which was automatic “Holly Hunter is a small woman that doesn’t look like she could beat up Klingons therefore she’d be bad and AGENDA!” That was conveyed. Commanding a spaceship isn’t based on how much you can bench.
I therefore mention Janeway’s very similar stature, and Picard for a majority of the series not being a super physical captain to highlight the double standard.
I actually didn’t like Discovery’s melodrama and need for the professionals to discuss their personal problems in the middle of every crisis instead of focusing - and did feel it went too much into being a never ending therapy session. This is imo more an issue of the extreme serialization and interpersonal drama style in today’s short run tv than being too “woke”. In fact, I think newer Trek isn’t woke *enough* as the characters and Starfleet act like unenlightened 21st century militarist a-holes too often.
But if you think ST wasn’t overt and heavyhanded before, remember the episode Plato’s Children was literally banned from airing in the South because of it’s “politics”. And see heavyhanded episodes from TOS’s “Let This Be Your Last Battlefield” to DS9’s “Far Beyond the Stars”. And I’m old enough to remember the backlash to both the supposed political-correctness-forced black series lead/station commander Sisko (not Captain at first) and later to the first woman captain Janeway by the same types who scream about woke “NuTrek” now.
Star Trek Discovery is HORRIBLE!!!! Using anyone from this show will make the newest reboot horrible too. Go back to the beginning!!! Stop the crappy reboots!!!!
I remember a show called Space Academy, in that show the Space Academy was located on an asteroid and it was shown on Saturday mornings along with other cartoons for kids. Oh yes, the actor who played Doctor Smith in Lost in Space was the head of that Space Academy. Jonathan Harris was his name.
The actor who played Scotty ( James Doohan ) also starred in one of those Saturday morning Space shows , cant remember which one right now , but iam sure someone will name the show.
Why do execs keep making the same mistakes. Fans HATE STD and STP, how can you call it a reboot if you have the same characters, from the same universe, in a "new" show. Star Fleet Academy is an old idea. It was one of the possible shows after STNG. They ended up picking Enterprise as the next series. These execs who control Star Trek can't find their own asses, with two hands, a map, and a video. Who the hell would want to watch cadets anyway. Star Trek has always been about exploration, not a bunch of whiny cadets. Sounds more like that crappy animated show, "Below Decks", or what ever it's called, as a live action show. I can't bare anymore garbage, I'm stopping this video at 1:43.
I only found the JJ Abrams trek films entertaining. I could tell within ten minutes of the first one that they messed a lot of it up.
I read the star Trek encyclopedia back in the 90's so it seemed insanely stupid that the entire crew was at the Academy at the same time. First, Chekov didn't join the crew until season two. Second, Spock, McCoy and Scotty were the oldest members of the crew being in their mid forties while Kirk was in his early thirties while Uhura, Sulu, and others were in their twenties. Changing it so drastically stuck out like a sore thumb throbbing in our faces. Or just a huge middle finger. And hooking Uhura up with Spock was probably the dumbest thing ever! I could have accepted Nero's time travel changed things but it couldn't possibly account for these blatant FUs to everyone that was excited about a reboot. I mean come on! Abrams isn't even a fan and doesn't know a thing about it. His star wars films suck too for the very same reason. I could have made a better reboot. And that's saying something because I can't write good sci-fi. Hell, at age six, I wrote a shitty short story illustrated with crayon about the first man to travel faster than light who had problems that were unanticipated. A la Algernon with Voyagers Threshold aspects. It sucked hard and I've never written sci-fi since. But it would have made a better movie than JJs lame ass reboot. They should have gotten a better script written by someone who gave a shit, a better director ( such as Nimoy himself) and almost any producer other than JJ Abrams would not have hurt it either!
I'm so tired of shitty reboot movies made by people who don't have a clue what they're doing. And I actually want to see Tarantino's idea to do a pulp fiction like reboot of A Piece of the Action. If I could go back in time like Nero, I'd slip Abrams a bunch of sleeping pills so he misses the call from Les Moonves asking him to do it. Then I'd fuck with Les' phone so every contact had the phone number of Quinton Tarantino. Or maybe just go back farther and make sure Les wasn't born. He really sucks!
The jj films are kelvin universe they are alternate time line I liked them with prime spock messing up the timeline anything can happen
Ugh. I hate Sony sci fi and superhero movies. I'm not optimistic about them buying Paramount
*”It is likely that one or more actors from Star Trek: Discovery will also return.”*
If the implication here is that ST: Academy will be a continuation of STD, I’m out.
Starfleet had already formed in Enterprise, it was the birth of The Federation that was depicted in the finale.
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Omigosh dude. What hot garbage. "Elysium" isn't underrated. It's utter trash. It's a Marxist wet dream. And as such, it's nothing more than a crap propaganda film. And if that's the direction you're gushing over when it comes to Star Trek -- I'll just go ahead and give it an immediate hard pass. (And by the way, Star Trek Discovery was the absolute worst Trek iteration ever made.)
“Star Trek Academy” has been proposed for decades but never made it to preproduction. That would be a welcome addition to all the other series and definitely “undiscovered country” 😎🛸👽
My fav startrek film after khan
There is a reason why it was rejected. People were calling it Star Trek 90210.
Look, ANY connection to STD, is not a "Reboot" of Trek....just a rehash of Nu-trek. Nobody likes Nu-trek.
So while Ms. Hunter iscariot marvelous actress, the crap and dregs she will be forced to work within, will soil her legacy, as a performer.
No Abrams/Kurtzman defiling. Old fans hate it....
....and new fans would hate it too, if there were any new fans.
Sell the franchise, to someone who loves it and will rescue it, from harm.
Why defile the coma patient, further, with STD based abominations?
I am looking forward to new versions of Star Trek and new stories. Once I got used to Star Trek: next generation, I was able to embrace the idea of Star Trek with different people and have not looked back since.
Put the idea forward in 1991 in place of Undiscovered Country. Bad idea then, bad idea now.
Honestly, you weren't really having to "get used to" TNG... the majority of the first two seasons really don't hit with most people, the exceptions, of course, being "Measure of a Man" and "Q Who." If season 3 was where you finally started connecting with it, you're right there with most folks.
@@j.rileyindependentproductions John De Lancie and Brent Spiner saved TNG from mediocrity (and very possibly cancellation)
I'm open to new things. But I'm not open to Star Trek being brainless slop.
@@Chud_Bud Which it is currently with Discovery
Why are you giving Simon Kinberg credit for X-men? Some of those films were fun, but they were an absolute mess in terms of continuity. Star Trek's continuity has already gotten messy with the new shows. We don't need someone to come in and make it worse. You're talking about fans being excited for this "new era" after you describe what we could be in for....retelling of stories we've already had, an A.I Shatner Kirk. You're out of your mind!
I don't see how this is necessarily a good thing. If it's based on Star Trek Discovery canon, It's just going to be more of the same. 🤷♂️
Oh no, another reboot 😴
Not interested.
Just license Star Trek Axanar, and let THEM do it, no more reboots, JarJar Abrams, Alex Kurtzman, STD's or any other crap!
Star Trek is beyond saving, it's been done to death and compromised with DEI propaganda. They're trying to reanimate a corpse at this point.
And with that I'll just continue watching fan made Star Trek like Star Trek Continues, FPSD, These Are The Voyages and Avalon Universe etc. At least they have an actual Star Trek feel and atmosphere to them at a fraction of the budget. Buh bye. 🤣
Well Eric what did you miss its woke trek star trek 90210 slash saved by the bell its a sequel to STD which was not popular legacey is the money shot the sure thing
IOW, the "reboot" will ignore everything already established in Star Trek Canon, just like jjabrams did with his trash movies. Zero interest in anything connected with std.
she will prob be a great cast for the Academy... That said, i'd love another Kirk style captain to come around someday.
Star Trek? ...it's dead Jim. Considering all the horrible things that were done to the franchise after Star Trek VI, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
It's not a reboot, it's Star Fleet Academy and perhaps a prequel/sequel to Enterprise.
ENOUGH with reboots, prequels and darkness!
It's none of those things. Confused why anyone things that.
This whole universe is crap. If they want to save Star Trek they need to return to the original timeline and stop violating Roddenberry's legacy. "Kelvin" timeline is when ST became trash.
I used to love only the '90s Trek,but then realized, there are truly endless stories to be told in the infinite Trekverse. Star Trek is first and foremost about:"The Human Adventure" and how it must continue. Trekk in the '60's was nessasraly only the beginning. Hope to the goddess,they're still making TREKK in the 23rd century and beyond!🖖🏻❤️🔥
They haven't had a decent Trek series in about 20 years. They haven't had a great one in about 30 years.
@@trhansen3244So go watch reruns.
Sounds awful. Milking the franchise in the worst ways possible.
If the new Film can show the Earth-Romulan War which was a catalyst in forming the Federation, I'd be happy. And, Holly Hunter to me will be this Gen's Janeway!
Yes my thoughts too regarding Hunter/Janeway!
Yes with Daedalus Class Starships. The Novel: 'Starfleet year one' left me wanting more and represented Star Trek better than Enterprise did.
Bro you have a Star Trek channel and yet you don't know the difference between Starfleet and the Federation?????
Seriously? What was shown at the end of Enterprise was the formation of the Federation. They are already IN Starfleet. That's who Archer and his crew serve under.
SMH
Bro, that isn't correct. Before the formation of the Federation, the NX-01 Enterprise and the other ships commissioned after her were a part of the United Earth Starfleet, which is not the same organization as the current one. The current Starfleet charter was established in 2161, the same year the Federation was formed. memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet
@@WhatDidIMissNice try but no lol. The last episode was setting up the FEDERATION!!! That has Jack all nothing to do with Starfleet. Those are two completely separate things. Starfleet is just an Earth organization Archer already works under. The Federation, what the entire show was setting up, was about having a formal alliance with other aliens like the UN.
Seriously just admit you made a mistake and move on.
Star Trek Enterprise’s finale was the birth of the Federation not Starfleet. Starfleet already existed by this time.
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Star Trek hasn't been Star Trek since the JJ Abrams movies. The real Star Trek was killed and replace with trash. I wouldn't waste my time watching what Star Trek has devolved into.
While I am sad for the loss of the actor who played Chekov in the Kelvin Universe, I am still hopeful for a 4th movie and a continuation of that story. I'm not really looking to see another re-boot, but may give it a look to be fair.
I'm tired of the woke bullsh*t. If they can make something entertaining, I'm all in. If they try to "educate" and "enlighten" me, I'm all out.
The kick in the pants for me, the final one, is they called the show Star Trek Discovery, and I was like "oh great! They're going to make a show returning to the roots of exploring strange new worlds interesting worlds, meeting vastly advanced civilizations that have attained pure moral perfection, other societies that implemented completely different solutions to problems, which are ultimately dystopian.
There wasn't any discovery. Just endless war propaganda. Then they made Strange New Worlds. Just endless war propaganda. Endless conflict. If I want to know more about war, I can just study the last 7 wars the US has been lied into - I've seen plenty of that.
At the risk of making the fuckboys already all over these comments further froth at the mouth... THANK YOU for using the word "humankind" rather than the dated and wildly inappropriate (especially when we're talking about Star Trek!) "mankind" that seems to be making a resurgence in certain corners of the internet.
You mean “hupersonkind”…
@@StorminATube Thanks for proving my point.
I love Holly Hunter! She’s got such a unique speaking voice and loads of experience. Reminds me of how perfectly cast Janeway was with Mulgrew. It’s awesome to see experienced women getting more screen time. I’m excited to see where they go with Starfleet Academy. I wonder what other planetary systems’ training centers are like?
Oh joy! More Star Trek Discovery.......🤢
The sarcasm is strong in this one.
I approve of your sarcasm and feel the same. 👍
expect retcon and DEI in overdrive
The Star Trek franchise needs to put as much distance between anything new and Discovery. Discovery turned out to be one big woke disappointment. Which is why it got cancelled. The fans are not going to put up with a rehashed version of a loser show. .
Wokeness killed Star Trek. Star Trek died in 2005 when Enterprise ended with season 4.
Not interested in the least. Haven't watched any nutrek and never will.
The only way to "save" the Star Trek franchise is to permanently delete all "shows" made after Enterprise and begin again at that point. This time making shows that have the look and feel of the the previous shows. And please stop with the humongous glass bridges that all the garbage shows have. Go back to designs that resemble something people might actually use.
I might have been interested to look back in treks direction if they hadnt tied themselves to discovery. Im done with trek, their just going to keep doing the vapid stupidity that newtrek has rolled around in and tracked all over the one franchise i cared about. Ohwell. Im out. enjoy.. whatever this is. cuz it sure isnt trek.
they set up a start of a good series with the last ep of picard season 3, pity that will prolly never see the light of day.
anything without kurtzman might show some promise, but I won't be holding my breath in todays entertainment climate.
Leave it to Paramount, to start yet another series, on a failed storyline. Let Discovery die. How about getting a good writer and finish off enterprise's last 3 seasons? How about slapping Pine and Quinto into another movie, to set the tale of a real series?