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  • Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
  • Back in 2022, I did a First Impressions on Spy x Family, and since then it's become my favourite show of 2023. Here I re-examine it and analyze the main cast in depth. This show is good. Watch it. Or I'll come to your house.
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    00:00 - Intro
    01:29 - Basic Summary and Pacing
    04:18 - Anya Forger - Full Time Bastard
    09:44 - Yor Forger - Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlfailure
    18:38 - Twilight - Manipulate, Manslaughter, Malewife
    21:31 - Yuri Briar - Paging Dr Freud
    29:36 - Nightfall - Bland, Boring, Bozo
    32:33 - Becky and Damien - The Curse of Comphet
    38:52 - An Aside About TwiYor
    41:37 - Conclusion/Credits
    #spyxfamily #anime

КОМЕНТАРІ • 204

  • @ayt3877
    @ayt3877 5 місяців тому +86

    I LOVE ANYA SO MUCH. So often in these child care animes the child is not much more than a token cutesy pet the protagonist drags around but Anya actually has a full personality and has her own little arcs and goals. The little kids shenanigans are actually my favorite part of the show 😂

  • @TheDualWieldingGamer
    @TheDualWieldingGamer 6 місяців тому +307

    Yor and Lloid being a platonic married couple is delightful and I’m a bit upset that my parents and the internet had me so romance-pilled for so long that I didn’t even entertain it until now.
    Thanks for spreading the message Lily, and Ren thank you for presenting the idea. Even if it’s not actually going to happen I’m going to be enjoying every moment of this series while keeping that “Besties who be married” mindset in my brain.

    • @jamalhartley5863
      @jamalhartley5863 6 місяців тому +10

      Yeah folks forget asexuality is a thing....

  • @gothicdear3889
    @gothicdear3889 6 місяців тому +208

    I've always loved Yor, but I was so happy with how they expanded on her character in season 2. As someone with autism, her insecurities about being weird and struggling to make and maintain personal relationships outside of her immediate family all resonated with me deeply. And it's also just so so nice to see a physically strong woman whose very loving and kind but can sometimes struggle with being physically gentle because it doesn't come naturally to her, even though, as a mother and wife, she feels like it should.

  • @viko1326
    @viko1326 6 місяців тому +426

    Glad to see healthy relationships in media. Very burnt out of the toxic crap everywhere else.

    • @Jino-yl3uk
      @Jino-yl3uk 6 місяців тому +18

      Omfg ur so right it just dawned on me

    • @levannahl.7573
      @levannahl.7573 5 місяців тому +5

      YES

    • @jonathanjuarez5544
      @jonathanjuarez5544 4 місяці тому +3

      *glares at Netflix She-Ra*

    • @marqusmedina5983
      @marqusmedina5983 3 місяці тому

      Is it though? A good chunk of it is based on a lie

    • @viko1326
      @viko1326 3 місяці тому +1

      @@marqusmedina5983 they're both lying, and if they each knew the others true identity they wouldn't hate each other or change their relationship dramatically. Its not a telenovela.

  • @user-oq4hz7qh1c
    @user-oq4hz7qh1c 3 місяці тому +51

    This show actually reminds me of Avatar the last Airbender because there both storys set in a war but the war it self isn't important what is important is how it affects the characters.

  • @kaykay8855
    @kaykay8855 6 місяців тому +207

    Seriously I don’t get why people hate Anya, she’s a literal child!

    • @skeletonsinscarves3965
      @skeletonsinscarves3965 6 місяців тому

      That's why they hate her weebs have a hard time with kids being kids

    • @HyperScepterOfficial
      @HyperScepterOfficial 6 місяців тому +5

      I see why lily loves her

    • @jonathanjuarez5544
      @jonathanjuarez5544 4 місяці тому +6

      They're the type of people who likely wouldn't be able to stand being anywhere near children for extended periods of time.

    • @aya-ms-s3y
      @aya-ms-s3y 4 місяці тому +4

      tbh,I always hated kids and found them annoying and here I am having Anya as my favorite manga character

    • @disgustof-riley8338
      @disgustof-riley8338 4 місяці тому +3

      Well, a fictional child, but, very authentic to how a literal child would act

  • @beautystitches2342
    @beautystitches2342 6 місяців тому +56

    I found something both relatable and sad about Becky: she doesn't really have feelings for Lloid.
    Becky is a lonely kid. She had trouble making friends and, even after Anya came into her life, is lonely at home because her parents are rarely there. She watches a lot of tropey romance shows, which led to the idea that the cure to her loneliness is a handsome man.
    Becky does not love Lloid; she loves the idea that he could be the cure to a loneliness she doesn't fully understand yet.

  • @TumbleroseStudios
    @TumbleroseStudios 6 місяців тому +85

    "This child has a fuckin body count " is now my new favorite sentence, This video is already a blast omfg
    The music choices are also impeccable granted I saw some of them on Discord but this is delightful
    Did Loid actually How Do You Do Fellow Kids omg this man is a lemon
    I really need to write that sapphic swap au fanfic I've been ruminating on
    Also did Yor just yeet a child, get hit by a car, then catch said child? I fuckin love this woman
    Yup this video was delightful, sorry for the long comment I wanted to properly engage with the video but Have the short term memory of a goldfish

  • @gtd5626
    @gtd5626 6 місяців тому +37

    A few things about Damian. It's okay to not like him, but he's not the way he is for no reason. He's a neglected 6 year old boy who just wants his fathers attention and is trying to become an imperial scholar and be the best just to live up to his family name. And considering the rest of his family, it's a miracle he didn't turn out worse.
    I know people in the fandom ship Damianya, but I think it's just adorable. It's just puppy love. Kids get crushes all the time. I see most people ship future them tbh, which is still kind of weird ngl. And as much as I dislike when he's rude to Anya, there are many other times he sacrifices for her. He isnt mean to her because he likes her hes doing it to hide the fact tht he likes her. We know how much he wants to become an imperial scholar and impress his dad, but he tries to catch the ball during dodgeball because he didn't want it to hit her, sacrificing his chance at getting a Stella (even thiugh he isnt know you wouldn'tget one), then he sacrifices the macaroon and let's Anya win the game because he saw her crying (even though it didnt work), then when Anya gets her second bolt due to the handkerchief, Damian sees her crying and decides to tell the truth, but Anya stops him (because then they'd get in more trouble). There's another instance of Damian sacrificing for Anya in chapter 71. And I can't help but feel bad for him because, like you said, Anya doesn't like Damian at all (and I don't blame her because he can be mean to her) he likes Anya because he thinks she cares about him and not his family name when it's only for the mission, which would destroy Damian if he ever found out.
    Fun fact: Damians character is actually inspired by Tsukasa Domyouji, who fell in love with Tsukushi Makino after she punched/kicked him. Tsukasa and Tsukushi are from a manga series called "Hana Yori Dango" (Boys over flowers), and it spawned off several live action adaptations from different countries.

  • @pkmnherofan22
    @pkmnherofan22 7 місяців тому +105

    Well this video is just delightful, here I was getting worried that internet brain got me unable to watch a positive video and im just delighted by an hour long video gushing about what makes Spy x Family great.

  • @AuroraExhale
    @AuroraExhale 6 місяців тому +27

    Honestly that scene with Anya throwing the spike back to Yor, while also adorable and hilarious, was also just so narratively satisfying. She saved her mama with the move mama taught her 😤

  • @AutumnBlaze689
    @AutumnBlaze689 6 місяців тому +40

    Lily’s breakdown into laughter is the single cutest thing I’ve ever seen on this channel. I’m gonna make sure to watch Season 2!

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 6 місяців тому +67

    I absolutely love Spy X Family. It’s a show I truly can’t get enough of. I love that all the characters get quirky personalities but are valid due to the fact most of them was caused by war in some way. It’s both funny and sad at the same time.
    However, I wish you went into more detail about Loid’s character apart from just his humorous side like how you did with the rest of the cast because I feel like you under sold him. The way he tends to overthink is hilarious, but it is also a testament to just how stressful his life as a spy is if he’s always expecting the worst case scenario. I mean, he never slows down to examine his own feelings. One of the things that stuck out to me in his disastrous date with Yor episode is that he wondered if Anya playing spies again and he asked how is that even fun. He believes there’s nothing good about it except that he can make the world better. He's miserable in his career and he can't even identify as much. Loid is a highly logical but sympathetic man who is considerate to everyone but himself.

    • @Rosefire
      @Rosefire 3 місяці тому +1

      Just read your comment and felt I had to respond to it. It's so profound about Loid, who I see as a complex character with quite a few contradictions. He had a traumatic childhood, has been living a life of deceptions, and finally starts caring for a family that was meant to be a facade. "Loid is a highly logical but sympathetic man who is considerate to everyone but himself." Oh wow...that hits me hard. Considering his horrible backstory and how his childhood was ripped to pieces, he doesn't know how to lighten up, to have fun, or be kind to himself. (He *tried* to dress up as what he thought was a "cool dad", but failed because it wasn't genuine). Maybe on some some level he thinks he doesn't deserve compassion for surviving the last war while people he loved died.
      But the beauty of this show is that while Loid can't restore his own childhood innocence, he's making Anya's life better in every way. She has a good home, her own beautiful room, a bed to sleep in, a father who cooks, studies, and protects her. Just as Loid is making Anya's life whole, and bringing fulfillment into Yor's life as well, he's filling the void in his own life even if he isn't aware of it entirely.

  • @Lexyr_
    @Lexyr_ 7 місяців тому +142

    Holy shit, those cuts of Yuri chasing after the train fucking got me, pffffffft!

    • @Mia_Monika
      @Mia_Monika 6 місяців тому +5

      Real I giggled every time

  • @eanna3781
    @eanna3781 6 місяців тому +40

    "platonic co-parenting" hmmmmm...
    *Aggressively taking notes*
    I'm currently writing a sci Fi thing for fun about this crew on a spaceship with aliens, very much in the vein of what I'd imagine is something that could have been going on in the background of Mass Effect 1 or 2. The comms officer, Krik, is from a species that is visually blind but has awesome hearing and finds his way around by echolocation and is from a very communal hunter gatherer society that was still very early in its development, before a big corporation landed mining equipment on the planet and poisoned it resulting in the species needing to be evacuated. And then only a few generations later they're dying out in a similar situation to the krogan.
    Krik finds an orphan abandoned on a station one day and is doing his best to raise her on board the ship and names her Songbird, due to how he heard her singing out in fear when she was alone. Fast forward to the point of the story happening and Songbird, calls most of the crew "Uncle" or "Auntie" due to everyone sharing the duty of taking care of her, but now the "platonic Co-parenting" idea makes me want to kind of come up with a word for it that she can call the crew.
    Thanks for the idea!

    • @ninevehgrey
      @ninevehgrey 4 місяці тому +3

      Your idea sounds very fun :]

  • @avenidalarco332
    @avenidalarco332 6 місяців тому +21

    I was really hoping you'd talk about the interview table punching scene because it's one of the scenes that really stuck with me reading the manga. Something about Loid repating to himself all the logical reasons why he shouldn't be upset or feel disrespected because his family is fake and kinda desperately grasping at straws to control himself amidst being absolutely enraged about his family being hurt is a really really interesting character development moment for him and also really heartfelt and sweet, you can really see the care he ended up building towards his family even early in series, i just find it to be a really outstanding scene .

  • @BMK500
    @BMK500 6 місяців тому +21

    Career hitmen getting bodied by a literal 6-year-old with a good arm will never not make me laugh
    The face she makes afterwards is amazing
    Actually that whole cruise arc was amazing

  • @mysticwayfinder3578
    @mysticwayfinder3578 6 місяців тому +22

    I think this video broke me with how unbelievably funny it was, though that might have had to do with me getting my booster and flu shots earlier yesterday before I watched it.
    In all seriousness, hearing about Yor made me go, "Oh no" and "Aww" several times. I was not expecting an anime taking place during the cold war to be this good at covering subjects like this, but color me surprised. I really liked the analysis of her character, especially with how it ties in with how the cold war screwed everything up.

  • @ahmedmanaseer8696
    @ahmedmanaseer8696 6 місяців тому +9

    I think that I love about spy x family, is how the war is like an Eldridge threat you always see glimpses of it, but you never actually see what caused the war or the battle tactic that was used in the war (except bombing civilians and trench warfare because well they got a show something) you only know that it’s something all the good characters want to avoid at all cost and it’s really surreal seeing these characters, so terrified of this event making it a very realistic thing.

  • @mrdeadinside9462
    @mrdeadinside9462 6 місяців тому +10

    The whole Damien issue gets waaaaay better later, Anya and Damien become a good dynamic and to some people, even rivals Lloyd and yors dynamic

  • @therotryzit
    @therotryzit 6 місяців тому +31

    I believe a character not having a good first impression isn't the worst thing that can happen in someone's watching experience. Heck! It might even be the best evidence for the creator's ability to recognize a problem and succeding at fixing it. With Yor it clearly paid off. If i have to make a guess Tatsuya probably created Anya and Lloyd first and Yor was an afterthought and more a design, because it would explain how the characters start off in Season 1.
    One tip i like to give creators out there is that is okay if you have an ensemble of character ready for your story but you feel one or two characters isn't very interesting by comparison, i'd urge you to just create a small number of "test stories" just to see how these characters would work out in practice, maybe then you realize their potential.
    Anyway starting the year off with a banger! Good Job!

  • @quiddity131
    @quiddity131 5 місяців тому +9

    I find the fact that Yor in the sub calls her daughter “Miss Anya” not weird but adorable and totally in line with her character.

  • @witchyruin8747
    @witchyruin8747 6 місяців тому +7

    Damien does get better, like he does have a bratty attitude but it starts to falter HARD as we learn more about his family

  • @symwinter
    @symwinter 6 місяців тому +14

    The only things I enjoy about NIghtfall is a. Anya spending the entire debut episode hyping Yor up to avoid having Nightfall as her mom and b. her eyelashes. I think they look pretty.

  • @skeletonsinscarves3965
    @skeletonsinscarves3965 6 місяців тому +23

    Honestly, this show is like theres two braincells in the family, and frankie secretly has them

  • @elyssame6952
    @elyssame6952 6 місяців тому +26

    Lily your comedy editting is on point. Me and my bf laughed so much all video. Thank you for giving me a better perspective on Yur and Yuri. I rewatched the series because of that

  • @LordofPride
    @LordofPride 6 місяців тому +17

    I think it helps that the manga is ongoing and well in advance of the anime, meaning there's a set story to follow and, adaptational considerations aside, there's not a lot of room for the writers to write by the seat of their pants.

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 місяців тому +16

      It doesn't 'help' because you're still reliant on the comic author, and when I say 'the creator' I mean him.

    • @ahmadhadi177
      @ahmadhadi177 6 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@LilianOrchardI thought Nightfall was interesting because behind her poker face is an immature woman who yearns to be with her former mentor forever.I don't consider her sympathetic considering her antagonism towards Anya and Yor but I find her to be entertaining because of how over the top she can be,how funny she is.Basically,a type of person who you love to hate.

    • @ahmadhadi177
      @ahmadhadi177 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LilianOrchardNightfall would definitely not be a good mother to Anya.

  • @TalasDD
    @TalasDD 4 місяці тому +6

    conserning yuri. in the manga around what would be the beginning of season 4 we find out he actualy has a team to work with and a female coworker that has at least a friendly relationship with him.

  • @elizabeths.3307
    @elizabeths.3307 6 місяців тому +13

    Honestly, I think platonic Loid and Yor endgame still have a significant chance of happening. I might just be aro projecting though...
    I once saw an article title 'why Anya is ruining Spy X Family' and my immediate thought was 'she's half of Spy X Family'. She influenced so much of the show, you'd barely have anything left if you got rid of her.
    One thing I love about season 2 is right from the get go, it's a Yor season. Even before the big cruise ship arc, she pops up first in the theme song when they do character introductions, and the first plot of the first episode is centered around her. It's like the writers heard your complaints (and my little sister's, actually) and went 'oh sorry, here's a bunch of Yor to make up for it!' and I love it.
    I love this show. It's like you said, even when it's bad it's at lest still funny.
    Also I like the little swipe audio and blur for your notes.

  • @AccountDeleted013
    @AccountDeleted013 4 місяці тому +5

    "He's terrible which means hes amazing" 😍🤣

  • @Prince__Teclis
    @Prince__Teclis 6 місяців тому +16

    This is my go to smile anime. I wake up feeling down or have a rough day, I put this on and it just helps me smile or chuckle.

  • @waifu_png_pl6854
    @waifu_png_pl6854 6 місяців тому +6

    i love how this show appeals to damn near everybody. i generally stay in the realm of comedies in western animations when it comes to cartoons, my friend is a "im halfway thru one piece and going on strong" kind of anime watcher and both of us love the show. we watch it together on discord with another friend (hes cool and generally on board with anything to watch) and despite our vastly different preferences, we often end up thinking the exact same thing, its great. its just so funny and seeing the bullshit this wonderful gremlin child pulls off is delightful. and, mind you, my friend complained about the owl house being too fast. good comedy really is just the best thing ever... no, actually good comedy that is also very emotionally touching is the best thing ever

  • @robin-hw3pz
    @robin-hw3pz 6 місяців тому +12

    This is a real treat of a vid!! I have been meaning to finishing SpyXFamily, so I'm glad that two characters that I was not into at first (Yor and Yuri) end up being interesting! I also glad you took the time to analyse Yuri since most people right him off as a bad joke character. Zeroseroren is so right about platonic TwiYor! I wish more series had this kinda relationship (it also inspires me to write something like this too!).

  • @herebejamz
    @herebejamz 6 місяців тому +12

    After credits scenes sure are popular in anime. Also, yes, I am so tired of localization teams not translating text, it's usually important. In there defense, the entire industry is horrendously underpaid and overworked.

  • @StrayNebarius
    @StrayNebarius 3 місяці тому +3

    I love hearing people and hearing Lily laughing in one of her videos just makes me smile so hard.
    I wish I had more to say but I just enjoy these videos so much it makes me too content to think.
    Thanks Lily.

  • @mosesmm5473
    @mosesmm5473 6 місяців тому +4

    Pretty much agreed with you on all points, but I do want to add two things if I could.
    The first is that that last part about Loid and Yor having a non-romantic relationship as endgame goes both ways as sure, Loid is far better at blending into polite society like he's always been a apart of it-but that's it, blending. He's a near perfect actor but he rarely feels connections or genuine emotions and when he does, he has no idea how to handle them-it's part of why Anya can play him like a fiddle as he doesn't get emotions and the parts of social norms that aren't important to his normal spy work, and she can use that against him.
    It's why he can misread Yor's mood so spectacularly as he has a childish understanding and relationships as he thinks that when a wife is angry, it's because of something the husband did. But he's learning, as in the finale, we see how he treats Bondo and how he shows that he was upset not because the dog was a bad attack dog, but because Anya(and him, he just won't admit it right now) would be upset that if he got hurt or was killed. He cares for life, and that drives him to learn more about his new family, connecting with them in ways he hasn't with another person since his parents.
    The second thing is the issue with Anya and Damian, as I won't deny it, he's a little shit to her and while he's a kid and gets a pass for most of it, I think most of the reason people ship them is because of those moments when she isn't in the picture, where we see he's more then angry brat that yells at Anya, that he has his own issues with his family and that his friendship with his two friends is both real and loving. To put it simply, it's the hope that he can get better since as it stands, he doesn't deserve to even be in the same room as her most of the time, it's why most artwork of them has then as teenagers at the least as he first needs to go through enough growth to be worth her time, That being said, if he remains like this, yeah I can see only the most fanatical(and creepy) shippers remaining on that hill to die on.

  • @wisdommanari6701
    @wisdommanari6701 7 місяців тому +12

    Shera montage is always welcomed

  • @Baxroy_the_Iron_Mace
    @Baxroy_the_Iron_Mace 6 місяців тому +8

    19:36 you don’t sound angry you sound like an actor doing a take that is going to show up during the blooper reel or someone given joker venom and struggling not to laugh. Also my favorite ship reading has been Loid and Yor as an ace couple as all the romance has been them going “what would a normal couple do? Let’s try that.” But it’s still clear there is love and affection there just not really typical romance.

  • @RayGainbows
    @RayGainbows 6 місяців тому +9

    My prediction is that Yor finds out about Yuri first. Imagine her realizing her fake family isnt necessary for her cover. But by that time they become her real family and she stays with them anyways, keeping her secret safe still. The story could easily continue from there.

  • @vanovasmith9586
    @vanovasmith9586 2 місяці тому +2

    I like to think with Yor not being out there so much at first, was because she was so worried about being accused of being a spy/traitor. Since that was her biggest concern. And a mouse that doesn't squeak, is less likely to be caught. And she started being more out there when she had the cover of Loid. And not so worried about rocking the boat and getting a little wet.

  • @Thejrguy
    @Thejrguy Місяць тому +4

    I love spy X family so much I think the reason is I haven’t watched a really wholesome show in a while most shows I’ve been watching are dramatic dark gritty or dark humor, but spy X family is the favorite of the animes. I watched. I don’t watch a lot of anime too I watched like five. But I just love the family dynamic. I LOVE THIS SHOW

  • @terry3368
    @terry3368 6 місяців тому +9

    31:54 "Its not Vegeta's fault its the writer's fault!"In a nutshell!😂😂😂

  • @varibunn
    @varibunn 6 місяців тому +8

    Oh this video is just positively lovely. It's so nice to hear all of this and I love your character analysis so much Lily.

  • @Ghostface1998
    @Ghostface1998 6 місяців тому +6

    It’s such a blast watching spy family and the second season is even better. Yor is my favorite character she is badass but is absolutely hilarious anytime she does something I just love her development . Loid always cracks me up whenever things don’t go his way with Anya especially during the cruise arc. I’m so excited to watch the movie whenever it releases in the US. The cruise ship arc was awesome I was hoping for more Yor screentime and she had a whole arc to herself which made me love her character even more. Yuri is hilarious and his dub va being Asta from black clover makes it even funnier.

  • @Abble_vs_the_world_
    @Abble_vs_the_world_ 5 місяців тому +7

    GOD I'm so happy to finally have an anime that doesn't involve shitty fight scenes, sexualization of 4 year olds, unhealthy/toxic relationships, and uncomfortable fetishistic scenes of women.
    That being said however, I am going to remain cautiously optimistic on Spy X Family.
    You can never know when weebs will turn this show into another generic 2010's style anime.

  • @Draiocht012
    @Draiocht012 6 місяців тому +5

    I absolutely hate that you've convinced me Loid and Yor would be more interesting, compelling, and cute as platonic co-parents than as an actual couple. I feel like Anya, just thinking 'hey it'd be awesome to have a family where the dad is a spy and the mom is an assassin' without any consideration for the actual characters/people, except I don't have the excuse of being a traumatized 4-year-old.
    Part of me is glad I'll still get to see that romance but now I have to add 'like Spy X Family but as platonic co-parents' to my list of narratives I'm dying to see that'll probably not happen in my lifetime.
    Always a pleasure, thanks for another great video.

  • @terry3368
    @terry3368 6 місяців тому +9

    After my coworker recommending Spy X Family to me and getting into the Show and the Manga ended up enjoying the Manga a bit more Spy X Family is a heartwarming wholesome and adorable, experience even though I prefer Dr. Stone Anime and Manga and believe it's a better story. Still Spy X Family hits on all emotions and resonates deeply with me. 8.6/10!😢😂

  • @theMillieBun
    @theMillieBun 6 місяців тому +5

    ive been reading the comics as they come out but man i need to watch the show...the part where Yor got hit by a car and kept going fucking sent me and the animation was just perfect lol
    honestly the only thing i find interesting about Damian is hes somehow the most normal and sane person in his family...i honesty wanna see what they do with the scene where anya reads Damians mothers mind (in a like audio/visual sense)
    also im suprised Bond the dog wasnt mentioned too, at least in the comic i thought he was a fun charicter

  • @Persphone_cabin
    @Persphone_cabin 6 місяців тому +8

    This is unrelated to anything but ANNPATSU COVERS YAYYY nice to know you also have listened to her; she’s amazing

    • @alejandrovargas6908
      @alejandrovargas6908 6 місяців тому +2

      SAME I RECOGNIZED HER AS SOON AS SHE STARTED SINGING I WAS FANGIRLING SO HARD ❤❤❤ Breath in and out lol

  • @Murmeska
    @Murmeska 6 місяців тому +6

    I've watched the first 4 episodes of Hazbin Hotel and...Lily I'm so sorry we've lost everything 😭

    • @terry3368
      @terry3368 6 місяців тому +4

      I believe the first 4 episodes are really good I look forward to what they do in the future. Stay Gone is a great musical number essentially at the end with The Radio Demon closing it but one criticism that sarcastic chorus pointed out how to destroy the premise by changing the reasoning for the yearly cleansing from over population to weakening hell and keeping more power because of this why is Charlie trying to redeem sinners to these monsters?

    • @Murmeska
      @Murmeska 6 місяців тому +6

      @@terry3368 also they completely wrote off Charlie from the show. Alastor feels more like a main character than Charlie in her own FEMALE centric show, her romance with Vaggie is sidelined and overshadowed by Huskerdust even by creators. And I'm not even talking about how terribly they have handled the SA topic.

    • @terry3368
      @terry3368 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Murmeska I see what you mean. But the show has great ideas I hope they can iron out the issues as the show continues.

  • @edalynclawthorne5877
    @edalynclawthorne5877 6 місяців тому +11

    Really good video Lily.
    I’m gonna be honest, after the first first-impressions I kinda passed on SxF mostly cause it’s an anime, which I generally veer hard left from on principle and experience alone. However after this video Imma give it a shot, once I find where to watch it.
    HOWEVER!!
    This? 22:51?!? Why do you do this? Why do you hurt us? This is psychic damage

  • @AMenaceInGeneral
    @AMenaceInGeneral 6 місяців тому +4

    Ugh, I love your reviews and I think the best part of the experience is undertanding your opinion on the subject, and then thinking about my own point of view as I form my own opinion- I love these discussions because it helps me find ways to express how I feel about certain things since I struggle to put my thoughts into words, for example, as a shipping menace I understand that romantic relationships have been shoved down people's throat since the stone age, and I confess that I do hope Loyd and Yor will end up together as a couple, but just the thought that there's the chance of them being platonic co-parenting doesn't bother me at all because their dynamic is just a joy to watch regardless of them being romantically involved or not! If I could I would have both to be honest XD

  • @joahjoah92
    @joahjoah92 6 місяців тому +4

    About Yuri, honestly my only hang up with him is that I live in a country that lived through a military dictatorship and his portrayal on uniform is kinda too close for comfort. Also props for putting Shayfer James music on the video, didn't expect to hear his voice today.

  • @oblitusunum6979
    @oblitusunum6979 2 місяці тому +3

    I wish Hilda had done better. I enjoyed it originally but then it just...sank.

  • @TheGamingKidNetwork
    @TheGamingKidNetwork 6 місяців тому +4

    It’s really nice that the show got even better. I remember being interested in the show due to what you talked about the 3 leads in the last video and how fun you talked about them. And now your new analysis just makes me more excited as I catch up on the show.
    Your analysis of Anya, Yor and Yuri were my favorite to hear. Particularly about how Anya still is allowed to be a kid, why Yor still does assassin work and getting to be more comfortable in her life, and the interesting reasons why Yuri is the way he is and how his story is about him getting better.
    Plus your jokes in this video were all just so fun to watch. You got a lot of laughs from me

  • @magdalenaszulc1691
    @magdalenaszulc1691 6 місяців тому +7

    Great summary of the whole story so far (at least this animated part). I also want to thank you for the conclusion about Twiyor. I love them and I want them to have a romantic relationship but you gave me a new perspective on them. Which I am grateful for. I reread some of my favourite moments of them and I see a trail (at least with Yor) but at the end of the day I think that they just deserted to find and feel all spectrum of love especially romantic ones. It would be (in my opinion) a great example for mature love in genre and a real slow burning (kinda like in real life). However, thank you for the video ❤

  • @ShadowRoadX
    @ShadowRoadX 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm kinda working a similar concept in my books! One of the protagonists is as OrphanTM as it gets, so he has no frame of reference towards what a normal family dynamic is, offset by another protagonist who is ancient and experienced, but constantly insecure and paranoid about letting down or hurting his loved ones, and a secondary character who is the sensible work-husband foil to protag 2 and a scholarly protective mentor to protag 1. It all unfolds into a jumbled mess of what is essentially multi-generational brotherhood, but plays out like two wryly bickering parents and a befuddled teenager struggling to find his own footing in life. All three have their own baggage with what family is and means to them, especially for protag 2 with the weight of having been a parent and the pain that comes of failing as one.

  • @Mortal2064
    @Mortal2064 6 місяців тому +4

    13:40 ow... that hurt. Lily please don't ask me to imagine having 3 people that fully support me, it hurts thinking about something I don't have, especially something as powerful as that. /hj
    I say /hj, but this part of the video made me pause for, like, two whole minutes, as i just sat there and reflected. And attempted to mourn something I never had.

  • @thepoetjean
    @thepoetjean 6 місяців тому +6

    I was listening to the video as I was getting ready for work this morning and THE WAY I UGLY LAUGHED ALONG W LILY AT CERTAIN POINTS LOLOLOLOLOL 😂 Honestly, made my day! One of my favorite vids of yours thus far (slowly getting thru the Pokemon megavid). Thx for making my day, yall 💛

  • @EllipsisMark
    @EllipsisMark 6 місяців тому +9

    Emotional relationships without sex or romance is something I noticed missing. I understand the internet being horny and expressing that, but writers really do pivot into making everything about sexual love.
    Something I miss from the 90's and 00's is how you can have two characters of the same sex express a deep love of each other and they're still just bros. With the acceptance of LGBT+, a good thing, we've lost that. and I think that's a shame. Now any expression of care is twisted into shipping and creators capitalize on it because the number needs to go up. Ultimately captialism is to blame.
    Well, I also know I try to address this in my own writing. In my book, I expressly establish a type of relationship called "Confidants". It's described as something like "Best Friend Plus" but there are expectations surrounding it. Your "Confidence Partnership" is seen to have the same weight as a "Romantic Partnership".

    • @EllipsisMark
      @EllipsisMark 6 місяців тому

      And yes, I have read Homestuck. Thank you for noticing.

  • @MaceLight
    @MaceLight 6 місяців тому +4

    this is going to sound odd, but I think the point of nightfall is that she is boring. when she first showed up, i saw people saying that she is who Loyd should have gone with. that having Yor was a bad idea and that there should have been a female Spy assigned with twilight on the mission. but she is bad with Anya, and she would be bad for the mission and for the story. at some-point i just guessed the Mangaka was tired of hearing it and made nightfall to just got "this what you want? really? instead of Yor?"

    • @MaceLight
      @MaceLight 6 місяців тому +1

      its not a grate idea, but I can understand getting sick of people saying it and getting them understand your thought process. nightfall suffers as a character because of it, i hope the writer gets it off of his chest and dose better by her, but I do understand

    • @ahmadhadi177
      @ahmadhadi177 6 місяців тому

      ​​​@@MaceLightI thought she was interesting because behind her poker face is a woman who really wants Loid to be with her forever.I honestly think she's funny but I definitely believe that she will not be a good mother to Anya.Why is it that Lily think she's boring?I thought that she was quite entertaining.Of course,I don't find her to be sympathetic considering her selfish love to Loid and her antagonism to Anya and Yor.

  • @thepoetjean
    @thepoetjean 6 місяців тому +3

    Personally, Yor and Loid being at the exact intersection of girl boss/ girlfailure tickles the HELL out of me as a competent person in my field who's also extremely shy and neurodivergent in life in general. I also love the idea ir them as platonic co-parents / marriage buddies cuz it feels just as important and organic as them being a romantic couple eventually. 10/10, bi ace approved 🎉

  • @fluffydragon3200
    @fluffydragon3200 2 місяці тому +1

    Aww, I love the lil you on the thumbnail! It's cute! ✨️ Also, good video.

  • @champ2stay920
    @champ2stay920 6 місяців тому +4

    I guess "Lower Decks" and "The Ghost and Molly McGee" were the remaining 5% since your first Impressions of them were positive and you didn't mention them here.

  • @gilwags
    @gilwags 6 місяців тому +4

    Fiona is the most boring character I have seen in a long time I mean holy shit.
    So nice to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that

  • @bleakautomaton4808
    @bleakautomaton4808 6 місяців тому +4

    It is a nice comedy with characters you actually care about. And how the espionage and war affects the characters is compelling.

    • @bleakautomaton4808
      @bleakautomaton4808 6 місяців тому +1

      I was also amused by the bratty rich kid being named Damien, making me think of The Omen unintentionally to a comedic way. But a horror character being made into something goofy will seem a bit old hat huh? But that was where my mind went with an intolerable 6 y/o named Damien I guess.
      Anyway anyway Anya is the best character and doesn't deserve that 'he hits you because he likes you' anti-logic.

    • @kaykay8855
      @kaykay8855 6 місяців тому +1

      @@bleakautomaton4808everytime I hear the name Damien, I see Robin Damien. And not the good version but the stereotype that a lot of fans see

  • @COMPUTEROSIS
    @COMPUTEROSIS 7 місяців тому +9

    Well damn, the last time I watched Spy X Family it was just the first half of Season 1 at my ex's place summer of 2022 alone with headphones on AND this is the first I visually seen Anya cuddling up to Loid because said ex's Crunchyroll account refused to not autoplay to the next episode (and I wasn't gonna mess with her settings just because I'm someone who watches the whole episode without skipping intro/credit sequences and the like) among other things in hindsight I should have known ahead of time... ANYway~
    I had thoughts of just rewatching from the beginning and what luck clearly it has only been just as good and even better than initially viewed that one night of forceful binging, trying my damnest to not laugh too loud least I wake up the ex except now I can take my time, hydrate, and definitely make sure I'm watching the full-text translation dub for that extra layer of comedy/context in-show~
    Other than that, they really should just drop the "shonen" tag (I don't care if it generally means "targeted to young men/boys") and just say "ongoing" when both the "comedy" and "drama" tag are more on-point and just as universal of a description as "ongoing"... and that's my nitpick, Nightfall notwithstanding (though that clip of her just saying "I love you" is like as if the VA was having a ball akin to AOT Junior High's dub of Mikasa not always making her sound purposely monotone if said line(s) will sound comedically funnier in 2015), and I'll be hard-pressed if any opening/ending theme after the first opening and ending theme are better than just on-par at best~

  • @pablodonner5213
    @pablodonner5213 6 місяців тому +4

    Glad to see one of your forages into the lands of anime has yielded such a treasure

  • @uneducatedpineapple4119
    @uneducatedpineapple4119 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this video. Watching it made me remember that I wanted to watch this show and now my life has substantially improved after doing so

  • @user-kb1xk4lg7r
    @user-kb1xk4lg7r 3 місяці тому +2

    Im kind of curious why it got demoted from the best show of 2023 to one of the shows of all time ?

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  3 місяці тому +3

      I decided that's how I'm titling these videos now

    • @user-kb1xk4lg7r
      @user-kb1xk4lg7r 3 місяці тому

      Thank you for your response by the way i don't even watch anime you are the first person to actually make me think of giving this show a try

  • @thepoetjean
    @thepoetjean 6 місяців тому +3

    I think a lot super grimdark and super bland shows miss is that all the shows that they draw inspo from (and/or try to rip off) is this: THE GOOD SHOWS TAKE THEIR GOOFY CHARACTERS AND PREMISE SERIOUSLY. Not in the "let's make this all boring and super serious" and it's more like treating their comedy and drama as super important to making the story good. Like, one is just as important and valid is the other in terms of good storytelling. All substance, good vibes all around. Be weird and fun, story writers. I believe in youuuu ❤

  • @ayushnayak6138
    @ayushnayak6138 3 місяці тому +4

    fiona does get her shine. In a future arc that also involves yuri btw. It shows how insane fiona is and what she is willing to do for loid.

  • @reader7777
    @reader7777 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the birthday gift. Always love your videos.😅

  • @spookygirl1031
    @spookygirl1031 2 місяці тому +2

    and this show takes place in the 60s jeez, poor yor and spy x family, but wicked awesome 😎

  • @shuneoliver6506
    @shuneoliver6506 6 місяців тому +5

    I love this analysis. Finally someone who sees that the point of this series is not the war (way too many people are saying the plot is not developing) and that the relationships are at the heart of this series. Operation strix is just a background for the development of the Forger family and I am here for it.
    I do agree that the Damianya ship is massively confusing as Anya blatantly cannot stand him. Even though Damian clearly has emotional issues, there are way too many red flags.
    In general, I think your character analyses are spot on, but I must have a slight disagreement about Nightfall. Yes, I thought she was hateful when she first appears, but despite her selfish desire for Twilight, she is an amazing agent who does play a significant role. I must say that I am actually quite pleasantly surprised at how great all the female characters are in the story (Not nearly enough is said about how fantastic Sylvia Sherwood is), and later in the manga even the co-workers get some love.
    Anyway, like I said, so glad that there are people out there who have seen the point of season 2 rather than just complaining because of the focus on characters. Awesome.

  • @sinanyan
    @sinanyan 6 місяців тому +2

    i am now in love with platonic co-parenting yor and loid :"3

  • @martinratagris
    @martinratagris 6 місяців тому +2

    I really like this video.
    I really enjoy the analysis videos even when I disagree with Lily's opinion because her reasons are... well... reasonable.
    I also really like to watch Lily tear apart something I already disliked and hear her explain problems I have with a series or character better than I can.
    But for all that I like those videos there is something amazing about listening Lily talking about something she really enjoys.
    I love when she starts to laugh at Loid.

  • @huamanJR
    @huamanJR Місяць тому +1

    I kind of now wish you would explore more anime after this. I will try to keep it light with suggestions; A Place Further Than The Universe, The Dangers In My Heart, and Shadows House.

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  Місяць тому +3

      Small world, the next video IS A Place Further Than The Universe

    • @huamanJR
      @huamanJR Місяць тому +1

      @@LilianOrchard OHHHHH!!! If I had to guess it would be with the new English dub. I look forward to your perspective on the series! Thank you for the response!

  • @moth4252
    @moth4252 6 місяців тому +2

    (19:46) I haven't even watched the show and I started laughing with you, your laughter is contagious!

  • @glossyxvibes
    @glossyxvibes Місяць тому +1

    I love spy x family, everyone loves spy x family. I’ve watched, let’s put Komi can’t Communicate out there as an example. It’s great, I loved the story BUT there was one problem that I had, over sexualized characters. One of the characters, (I forget her name) would bark and act like a dog for Komi, and a lot of characters had revealing and inappropriate outfits, that would be over shown WAY TOO MUCH. Those scenes were uncomfortable to watch. Like I said, I still love Komi can’t communicate, and over sexualized (and minors) who are characters is a problem in a lot of animes. Spy x family is the acception, other than some blood and murder (which, I don’t think is highly graphic) it is appropriate for anyone. And enjoyable. No characters are “sexy” in a weird way, and I also like how it has a different storyline. I’ve found that a LOT of popular anime’s are about highschoolers/older school students, which there is nothing wrong with that- but it felt SO GOOD to see a fresh idea. And, the characters are all very cute, and everything ties together very well. Honestly, I’ve never found any haters. And I enjoy the show so much. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 💗

  • @marqusmedina5983
    @marqusmedina5983 5 місяців тому +2

    4:23 I'm surprised you haven't done a video explaining why character is so important to story telling....Then again that could be seen as "breathing is necessary" levels of obvious 😅

  • @thepoetjean
    @thepoetjean 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the lil discussion of platonic partnerships since im exploring one between my WIPs MC and one of her best friends who're in a plot-relevant arranged marriage but doesnt do anything romantic cuz yknow, friends are awesome and emotional connection is important and interesting to explore in fiction

    • @alyeditsart217
      @alyeditsart217 5 місяців тому

      That’s a really cool concept, do you have any work I read about? Or

  • @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838
    @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 6 місяців тому +3

    Im curious as to why you dislike hellva boss and what you currently think of hazbin hotel on amazon prime?
    Also I thought you liked anakin skywalker or do you just hate how he is written in the clone wars?

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 місяців тому +7

      Helluva Boss always looked dull. I'm currently working on a video on Hazbin Hotel
      And yes, it's just Clone Wars Anakin.

    • @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838
      @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 6 місяців тому

      @@LilianOrchard I'm curious to see what you say, the biggest praise I hear is the songs are great and the one criticism I see for hazbin hotel is that it was too much going on with so little episodes to probably adress the topic

  • @lanceshadow5582
    @lanceshadow5582 2 місяці тому

    I finally started watching this show about a week ago after my wife took me to see the movie that came out in theaters this year.
    Its absolutely wonderful

  • @colbaltmind5696
    @colbaltmind5696 6 місяців тому +2

    Yeah i find similar characters to nightfall just absolutely infurating. Like Juvia from fairy tail is like Nightfall but even worse. Like actual rapist criminal levels yet i keep seeing absolute morons calling her a girlboss. It's a failure of the audience and writer which just gets worse and worse with the memeification of tropes in fandoms

  • @aceaster109
    @aceaster109 3 місяці тому +1

    the hands part had me bawling

  • @ssj4jason737
    @ssj4jason737 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly between this and Ultraman Blazar, I'm torn between which is the best of 2023

    • @terry3368
      @terry3368 6 місяців тому +2

      In my book, Dr. Stone easily takes the best of 2023 hands down. There's no doubt NewWorld did everything right, especially in setup and payoff. Senku and how he escapes the petrification wave is ingenious! I recommend that show to any and everyone! Get Excited The kingdom of science is moving forth!!!

    • @terry3368
      @terry3368 6 місяців тому +2

      5 meters in a single second!

  • @Amewyn
    @Amewyn 6 місяців тому +1

    You know I started with the "oh yeah Zerozeroren is not accurate" but hearing the reasoning, I have to agree. Their reasons make sense, I mean I do hope that Yor finds someone that fits for her, preferably ...outside of Yuri. I mean I hope the series does get to a satisfying conclusion at the very least, I am no further ahead on the comic but definitely season two has been nothing but bangers for stories for me and I appreciate that heavily.

  • @martinratagris
    @martinratagris 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh, about Nightfall, I feel that it is very understandable to label her as "Female version of Yuri" but from what I saw on the comic she seems to have been created as a female version of Frankie.
    Admittedly Frankie is a background character that may be below Yor's coworkers or Bond, the Dog.
    But Frankie is constantly shown as a "romantic" always chasing a pretty face when Loid or Anya aren't roping into wacky shenanigans.
    In the same way Nightfall feels as a comedic relief character meant to punctuate jokes but the author made her too hot and competent so everyone disregarded how sad she is.
    There is a short chapter of her and Frankie working together and honestly, she was almost likeable there.
    ...
    About Becky, I can see what the author wanted to do.
    Just as Anya filters most of what she knows through her Bondman cartoon, Becky who has no friends filters everything through the soap operas she watches.
    It's not only her puppy love for Loid but her tendency to see Anya's interest for Damian as a romantic drama.

  • @popperscore
    @popperscore 3 місяці тому +3

    man hearing that bit at the start about hilda and moon girl is really disheartening bc i just started hilda and its really pleasant so far, and when i watched moon girl it was really good up until the finale and hearing about season 2 torturing Lunella. to quote mickey milkovich, "why does everything always have to suck"

  • @israelibarracampos8307
    @israelibarracampos8307 6 місяців тому

    Very good video lily, i have noticed that your editing has been improving and evolving in recent videos and i quite like it.

  • @xensilverquill2064
    @xensilverquill2064 6 місяців тому +2

    Damn, I actually want to watch this now. (Btw what is that song at the beginning of Lloid's segment? I can't find it anywhere.)

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 місяців тому +3

      CREDITS

    • @xensilverquill2064
      @xensilverquill2064 6 місяців тому +1

      @@LilianOrchard Thank you, I realized that about 10 minutes after posting that comment (right about the time I remembered where my brain fell out).

  • @calebbridges4748
    @calebbridges4748 6 місяців тому +1

    Dang. I would love them to just have some platonic intimacy. I didn't realize that was on the table, mentally, for me. It won't happen but this awoke something in me.

  • @DefinitlyAlive-ip8wt
    @DefinitlyAlive-ip8wt Місяць тому +1

    As someone who has read every single Manga that has been serialized, don't worry. It gets even better

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  Місяць тому

      What does?

    • @jackyy3
      @jackyy3 Місяць тому

      @@LilianOrchard i'd assume spy x family

  • @cannabishornliu6119
    @cannabishornliu6119 6 місяців тому +1

    20:18-20:28
    *EMOTIONAL DAMAGE*

  • @prowolf633
    @prowolf633 6 місяців тому +1

    I still need to start it from the beginning

  • @Jayday12345678910
    @Jayday12345678910 6 місяців тому +2

    35:23 goddamn I need to watch this show lmao

  • @reeveeedu9685
    @reeveeedu9685 6 місяців тому

    Hazbin Hotel Just started as a series. Have your opinions changes? Gotten better? Worse?

    • @ninevehgrey
      @ninevehgrey 6 місяців тому

      Theyve posted about it on their Tumblr

  • @felipebartole6461
    @felipebartole6461 6 місяців тому +1

    Goddammit every time someone says that anime demographic is the same shit as genre my ears bleed, shonen is what old editors think Will be popular among teen boys, just that.

  • @gilgeaschwithkerk2344
    @gilgeaschwithkerk2344 3 місяці тому +2

    I love that Anja just tells Yuri he is a freak not like in other anime were this is a valid option for romance.
    Also Nightfall could be a true villain later in the Story. She is egoistic and that could make her want the war so loid would not need the fake Family anymore.
    Also as someone that reads the manga Damian and his mother are just so good characters.