Microtonal Chord Progression
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2023
- The progression isn't actually in 31edo. I just think the visual helps to understand the chords.
I made this using 3 slightly detuned instances 12edo (0c, ~-14c, ~-31c), which allowed me to tune the chords really close to just. I don't bother with the fifths because they're so in tune in 12edo anyway.
Here are the chord symbols:
sm7 - subminor 7th chord
h7 - harmonic 7th chord
h9 - harmonic 9th chord
also nontuplet beat go brrrr
I love when microtonal music is used more traditionally melodic like this rather than being dissonant for the sake of being dissonant
Exactly, same. Feel like a lot of microtonal music is just microtonal for the sake of it. A gimmick. The key is to actually sound good, and that requires showing some restraint like this, not just trying to incorporate every note because you can
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@@Accuratetranslationservices I think you underestimate how hard it is to write good music with notes and patterns that are entirely foreign to the human ear.
@@runswithbears3517 Oh? Why do you think I underestimate that?
Also relatedly - being hard to write has nothing to do with it. If your music sounds bad, you shouldn’t release it. No one will care how hard it is to write songs in a 19-note system. They will only care if it sounds good. Otherwise they will not listen to it and it’s just trash. They aren’t going to say, “This music really doesn’t sound good but I give him a break because microtonal is hard so I listen to music I don’t really like anyway.” No one out there is saying “I listen to this song all the time because of how hard it is to write” in general … which is why bands like the Ramones and Nirvana have millions other more fans than Yngwie Malmsteen. The only rule to music: Sound good.
That Bbh9 hits so teeth-grindingly good it seems like a portal to another dimension is about to open
Bbh9 feels like it makes one question their life..
Ong idk why i feel that shit in my teeth tho fr
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This turned into a reddit thread pretty quickly 👌
rainy Sunday morning in February type beat
Where do you live that it's warm enough to rain in February?
@@jordanolson happens all the time, weirdly warm days come around everywhere
@@nathanielpickett439 definitely not in minnesota in february lol
@@jordanolson a quick google of Minnesota February temps shows that highs are frequently above freezing
I love civ 6
As a classical music fan and composer, i love seeing people who are experimenting with microtonal chords and progressions! I believe it can add so much colour when used like this. Awesome.
amazing, love the h9 feel
your feelings are irrational
@@Fire_Axus Yes, that's quite literally the definition of feelings.
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@@Foxxeyexactly
@@Foxxey i think it was a joke about irrational numbers
I rarely ever see it used in chords. Hard to believe it can sound that harmonic
@@KimStennabbCaesar Also Zheanna Erose if you haven't yet
@@MauriceGuibot Aye, very cool stuff.
@@KimStennabbCaesar IDK bro, i'm pretty western centric musically soesking AND this sounds incredibly natural, almost too much, I don't think dissonant consonant notions are as artificial as many critics have you believe, then again, I don't really know and i'm not quite there in my knowledge of neuro-acustics, sound perception, aesthetics AND overall musicology to say this or otherwise. I just have this feeling that most people who use new techniques or sound in music composition forget that while then sounds AND techniques might be new, our sound perception is still limited and follows certain principles, wich if composed correctly, can make "new" and wild sounds make sense and feel natural.
you know its good microtonal when you cant tell its microtonal
edit: i could obv hear it but i was tryna say it sounds more fitting than other microtonal music ive hewrd
I can, sounds pretty obvious
You can tell someone is tone deaf when they can’t tell it is microtonal.
@@millennial_bug you legit just cant say that though because now its biased no matter what
@@rarecromI can hear it's microtonal. As the chords change it's pretty clear there's deviation from tempered intonation relative to the tonic chord.
@@jpizzleforizzle my original point still stands - i'm not attacking anyones ego. im simply just stating that in THIS SCENARIO since its already stated to be microtonal, there will be bias no matter what. you don't have to explain to me what recognizing something as non 12 tone through relative pitch is.
This unironically goes hard
it indeed goes
That Esm7 hits different, but repetition legitimizes
True
Lyrics:
C
G7sus4
Gh7
Esm7
Dh7
Bbh9
*Repeat*
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This sounds strange, but pretty good.
This is beautiful
Nice chords Tottiman! Good short video!! 😄🎆
sounds great! never seen something like this before so the notation freaks me out tho lmao
Awesome!! How do you name the chords? How do you handle the midi(?) data?
the info is in the bio.
since for some reason op liked your comment and didn’t reply to it lol
Beautiful progression
fuckin gorgeous my dude, can't wait to see what more cool stuff like this u come up with fr
This beat is very strange, but for some reason, it kinda makes the song better. I might start uploading similar videos to you.
Any particular program or method you used to make these?
Ableton Live 11 Lite with like 3 tracks per microtonal instrument, of which 2 i detune with pitch bend to actually make it microtonal
Ah, so I've been trying to recreate certain sounds I've heard but never could get it quite right, and now I know why thanks to this video.
I must experiment with microtones now
Bbh9 sounds very majestic
I love this.
Holy shit this is so incredibly good
It sounds oddly good!
W-w-w-w-w-w-whaaaaaat???!!!!!
It's freakin' awesome! That's what!
Great video! Microtonal for the win!
i love this
Dope man
Those drums 😍🫶
It feels like life is collapsing and being sucked into the quantum portal towards the end, ready to start a new life.
Nobody gonna talk about how good that Esm7 sounds?
I feel like most microtonal music isn't trying to develop a new musical language that extends the 12-tone one we already have but just "omg guys it's going uhh chromatic but a billion notes!" or something
yeah
what kinda time signature is this i'm so confused
4/4
@@tottiman3939 Is this an "everything is in 4/4" joke or are the drums just really offbeat and poorly looped
Amazing.
I enjoyed that❤
This huge hit on home planet!! 🔊 🔊
guys the drummer’s trying their best to
there's no drummer :p
i like it!
really cool
Great, now we'll never get rid of Autotune.
I love this site
Good job
very pleasant
Pretty good
Красивое!
Nice!
awesome
like an angelic choir of biblically accurate cats
Bbh9 sounds like a villain
What notation are you using? This is great
what do you mean what notation? also thx
i think they’re asking how to read the keyboard/chart laid out in the video.
@@imauz1127 I mean like the chord notation. Esm7 etc
@@TitanScream
sm7 - subminor 7th chord
h7 - harmonic 7th chord
h9 - harmonic 9th chord
there's a list of the microtonal ones
@@tottiman3939 ok thanks. I'm really interested in this theory. I was telling my friend when he saw me giggling at my phone "really exciting things going on in music" I had no idea there was a whole like burgeoning nerddom surrounding microtonal stuff.
Wow, that sounds natural.
Bbh9 hits hard
why are the drums having a stroke I Love it
February 31st type beat
And of course the polyrhythm just to add that feel
Nice drums.
this MIGHT be pilotredsun 🔥🔥🔥
Hipster garbo
More tones to suck at playing, great!
So what you're saying is that I don't sing out of tune, I sing in micro tones and am a fabulous singer!! 😂😂😂😂
Yeah!!
Your microtonal chord progression but I played on a 12TET piano be like:
Yo this shit bops
Nice job! I know this is in detuned 12-tet, but which tuning is this trying to emulate?
just intonation (if you're asking between that and 31edo)
@@tottiman3939 Ah, Thanks! :)
Cars horning, but they are a banda
Wow!
I don't know much about sound or music theory but the 'Dh7' sounds very 'harmonically inline'. Like very natural. Also why does the drum beat sound off?
this website >>>>>>
fun fact, when i play anything polytonal on the violin it's technically microtonal!
i have a fm synth that do microtonal stuff too.
At first I couldn’t even tell it was microtonal 😭
sounds like ELO
needs more variety
Looks like blockbusters
@tottiman is there anyway you could upload a no drums version? I really like the drums but it would be super cool to just hear the progression.
Who knows maybe this is the sound of the future
No, maybe of the past. Organs used to have perfect thirds with microtonal different flat and sharp keys. If you check they are used like that, in certain chords.
@@MeteCanKarahasan That doesn't make it not "sound of the future" yet again
@@marijandesin8226 if back to the future is what you are trying to say, past is not the future.
How does the distance work between chords or groups of notes here?
couldn't tell ya. I picked the chords near randomly
@@tottiman3939 thanks 👍 good video
gwoooghhh
I like ur pfp
I look at the chirds and they look like chess notation
bee comb music
this hurts my ear to hear unreal notes
Bach Prelude no.1 in C Major
lost subborn msm or something be like:
Hmmm... jazz to me ears🥵
Not sure I'm hip to the Esm7 sound here, everything else seems fairly consonant though. There's just some kind of tension in there I wouldn't expect from a min7, I guess? Maybe? What informs your decision when you employ microtones, I feel like it would just be overwhelming
the Esm7 is indeed a tiny bit more dissonant than a min7
hiw could a chord be harmonic? whats the formula for a harmonic 7th chord?
What is the software displyed there in th video?
hey, i dont know a ton about microtonal theory, but are 12 tet and 12 edo the same? maybe there's a slight difference?
they are
tet is Tone Equal Temperament, while edo is Equal Divisions of the Octave.
Normally they're the same because people like pure octaves, but if you decided to detune the octave while still preserving equidistant steps you would have a tet system, but not an edo system.
12tet can refer to 12 equal divisions of any space, while 12edo is 12 equal divisions of the octave. 12tet could refer to 12ed3, 12 equal divisions of the perfect twelth, which has step sizes of 158.5 cents instead of 100 cents.
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Interesting chord progression but you can fix up the rhythm a bit by making the drums more stable and accenting the chords in different ways and maybe changing their length, and don't forget that. REPETITION LEGITIMIZES, REPETITION LEGITIMIZES, REPETITION LEGITIMIZES, REPETITION LEGITIMIZES, REPETITION LEGITIMIZES.
was a baby with no arms drumming?
eh might as well idk
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What does the notation mean? Seemingly, the Esm7 is Em7 and the Bbh9 is Bbm9b5. I'm confused since I've never seen it written like that
I can see why you'd think that, but they are different chords
Esm7 - E subminor 7th (even flatter third and 7th than minor7)
Bbh9 - Bb harmonic ninth (dominant ninth with way flatter 7th)
@@tottiman3939 So in the Gh7 chord is the 'E#' note not actually enharmonically equivalent to F? It's flatter than an F?
@@XenialXenon correct. it is about a third of a semitone flatter
@@tottiman3939 Ohh, I see. Thanks for the explanation!
where did you record this?
Isn't this like organ music, separate flats and sharps? As far as I can tell you only have 1 difference between keys. Flats and perfect third flats, same with sharps.
Sounds like western 1980s pop music took some tabs of acid.
Nevermind the like count went up i guess i can like now
Because you know
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i am terrified that this is a real instrument
It isn't
@@tottiman3939 can't tell if you mean this in a denial way or a not knowing that it is so saying that it isn't way
@@zerotian5661 It is very much not a real instrument. It was a synth pad preset in ableton lite
oh i mean the ones in real life not this video specifically @@tottiman3939
Google the Lumatone, if you dare.
Don't get me wrong, i think experimenting with microtonality is super cool but the esm7 doesn't really fit for my ears, it just feels out of tune and i cant get into it
CrUNcHy
What VST is this?
no
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Ah terpstra keyboard online my favorite Lmao
I always find micro tonal melodies to sound extremely disonant, including this one. Is that the point of micro tones? Am I missing some key detail in how micro tones are? This is a genuine question.
They give composers the choice to make their music more dissonant or less dissonant than the usual 12 tones of modern music. The most common microtonal tunings are ones that allow a closer approximation of the harmonic series from any given note
Sounds like a certain artist I know