Poison Necromancer: Diablo 2 PvP Build
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this video, we converted our PvM Poison Nova Necromancer into a Player Killer! After a brief overview of the character, we cut to some duel videos. The build performs far better than we ever expected, that's for sure.
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Old school diablo 2 duels were the best. This is fun but the era of teleporting on every character seems lame to me. Those old non runeword battles were so fun!
Teleporting makes it more fair for all classes
I've heard a lot of people say this throughout the years. I understand why you wouldn't be a fan of tele, especially being a fan of the classic version of the game, but the addition of Enigma in patch 1.10 is really what transformed PvP into such a dynamic experience. Without it PvP is basically namelock each other and whoever's gear is better wins lol. Also Sorc is virtually untouchable if no other char can tele.
..I mean tp is just stupid
Troglobyte *facepalm* yeah, much like you buddy.
@@Enigma793 LOL, did u even play pvp back in 1.09? GA amy could destroy sorc 2ez. It was much more interesting that this boring poison nova/teleport spam -_- zzzZZZ
Now this is the kinda content I was looking for after getting back in to D2 2 weeks ago, but only found solo/offline/pugy videos. :D
I was feeling kinda demotivated as I started the first leveling and MF'ing seeing the game is dominated by farm/leveling bots on EU.
( Obviously my chars from around 12 years ago expired :( :D )
Not sure if I even wanted to play this game, then I joined my first PvP game after all these years running a double spirit,
non teleport Hdin, 3/4 empty inv ( using stuff like Gheeds and 12 life or just 8% fr sc's in the used slots ).
Remembering some patterns and trying to figure out the matchups from the scratch was such a fun and nice challenge.
My doubts were fully gone after the first duel game I joined!
Going against elements was a lost cause, but I had some amazingly fun duels against some other Hdins, Barbs and a lvl 99 Smiter.
At one point he asked me if I put on %dr gear and I showed him my stuff. He was a very nice polish dude and helped me out quite a lot!
Gave me a bunch of plain 17-19 scs and some 5@ and even a 20 life/5fr one. :D
I was super grateful and thanked him many times. He was just like "No problem. You earned it.
It's amazing what you did with your gear. I want to pvp a better version of this paladin."
Really had fun reading your little story haha! 2 weeks left for D2R!!
I had to subscribe due to excellent, non-rushed and detailed content also nice to see a guy from my era still playing.
Thanks, brother. I appreciate this!
Great video dood! i'm here hopeful that they will bring back this style pvp with Diablo 4!
You mean bring back PvP at all.
@@Wheatsolo yeah they made a huge mistake making dmg go over 100k then they made us do millions then billions then trillions.... fatal mistake
@@Wheatsolo Correct lol
doubtful, many games of the genre seem to aim balance pvm more so pvp gets kinda fucked.
Ah well, at least this year we'll get to enjoy the real deal again ;D
I have my doubts that d4 will have any type of dueling at all. Seems closer to d3 than d2 tbh.
Enigma makes d2 pvp into a complete clusterfuck.
Agreed
I played D2 before Enigma and it wasn't any less clusterfuck
I use to use dream rune word in my helm slot for this build lol. Little added damage with the holy shock just in case golem couldn’t handle it.
good note to keep later use. there is certain reason to archive this information with other transition duels.
Just use teeth/cast fire golem out far lol.. The tricks I have up my sleeve for my chars.. My opponents just love me lmao...
8:56 - tele into the house and kill sorc with poison nova, fave kill.
just got into diablo 2. really like your content man pleas do more history videos on this game and how it was played over the years !
Love the vid, i got back into d2 a few years ago but recently quit again after my wife said i played too much lol... shame, cuz its arguably the best ARPG made by a long shot. Great build great content, subbed cuz im lookin forward to more vids.
Also d4 updates would be a nice inclussion
Agreed man I don’t play anymore but the itemization is so good be cool to see d2 revamped with graphics
I know a hand full of people, not me included, that would argue that Path of Exile is the best ARPG ever created. 1) Hammerdins 2)MF PvE Sorc 3)Profit 4) PvP I hope Diablo 4 is gorgeous and the metric I will use is David Breviks opinion of the game in 3 aspects. Nonetheless I will buy it with good faith. See you at the gates of Hell.
D2 PVP is the real stuff ... hope they try to at least try to mimic this to D4 instead of shitty room-clearing bullshit like the failed D3
Couldn't agree more. They need to get trading and pvp right or we're gonna see a Diablo 3 remastered pretty much
Sadly they won’t blizzard is complete shit these days sadly, also d2 was blizzard north don’t even think it exists today in activision shit blizz
@@datiger39 I only wanted to correct "days" for "years", thanks
This is nutter butters, you were just melting them
Anyone else reading the dueling chat? I miss Diablo 2.
Nice build and video! Liked and subscribed. Keep em coming!
Much appreciated man! Thank you
I thought Necro woud be poopybutt since he seems so squishy, but I guess it was hard for them to get close.
Is poison use frowned upon in pvp?
Literally lol'd at this. 451 poison charms are frowned upon, for whatever reason. But all other forms of poison are good according to standard GM rules (source: asgardpvp.com/gm-dueling-rules)
Btw, Scientifically speaking, Max Block helps with Squishy-Butt Syndrome.
Poison necro is not a great dueler at high level d2 PvP, but is a hilarious bot killer. I’ve nuked level 98 bots to 1 health with nova and had them die to mobs in chaos. They get what they deserve for cheating lmao.
make a slowazon to piss everyone off
actually dude bonemancer is one of the deadliest PVP builds out there. have a spirit runeword with a shield and a sword for faster casting rate (FCR), max out bone spear and/or bone spirit and its synergies , add bone armor to soak up some physical damage, have decrepify for slow, have an enigma armor, and a good + FCR helmet with tons of +skill charms, also a hellfire torch charm, and all you have to do is spam teleport not too far from enemy, spam bone spirit as it will track your opponents, teleport out, repeat, and boom enemy is dead. just carpet the entire battle field with bone spirit. at max FCR you can cast like 4 bone spirits a second with each spirit dealing 4k damage! melee enemies got virtually 0% chance to defeat you, other players like trapsins and blizzard sorc have better chances. also, there is no effective resistances to magic damage of bones. 4k bone spirit is better than 10k lightning damage because of 90% max resistance.
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for poisonmancer though almost the same items, but using poison nova then use fire golem as nuke. fire golems have fire damage when summoned and resummoned to a specific area. the problem with poisonmancer decades ago was it just could not kill a well equipped player with 90% poison and fire resistance , 1500 HP, with enigma's teleport, and with tons of rejuvenation. to pull of a dominant winning streak you have to get very fast hands in the teleport - poison nova - fire golem nuke - teleport set up , versus bonemancer's easier teleport - bone spirit - teleport strategy. plus the nova range is shorter than the bone spirit range
Very nice old School d2 duelling! Subbed! Which class do you suffer against the most with this psn nec?
Thanks man! We struggle against paladins with ass loads of resistance, mainly. Wind druid matchups are easier than with a pnb necro, but can be difficult. Trap sins that can keep their distance also are a problem.
is this. active information to ask weak points to target weakness without trial and error methods of experimenting or an honest back bone question? some peoples questions are double sided draft of information
Whats up its Nim. I was honestly looking for a bone or psn build for my necro partially based on these duels (es orbs worst enemy haha) it was fun dueling but I honestly had no idea you were recording. that was my first time back on in 5 years? I missed my orber and necro and now Im here watching me get wrecked lol. I think it was my first pvp match too since then. Anyways great content keep up the work. D2 is a great game! Feel free to add me to test some builds or what not.
Also I saw the name Oko in the vid and thought "I think I remember this guy from a game." lol
What's up, man!? That was one of my first dueling runs on a Poison Nova necro, too. Was really impressive! I honestly thought that, as a cold sorc, you were gonna destroy me. If you woulda been Blizz, I think it woulda been a different story. That game was full of some good-mannered people and was a real fun night. Was really fun dueling with you!
haha! That's hilarious. And I'll definitely look out for you in the future. Would love to test some builds.
@@Coooley yeah I went straight orb no syn and maxed ES with integer DR. Its strong vs all BUT poison haha. Try one out if you can if you enjoy being a tank and dying to poison.
So let me get this straight... cooley wrecks you when u first come back and then u still gave him a bugged tals??? If this is the case i will do nice things for u!!! I got a vibrating tongue i know how to use and ill make ya food and ill let u wreck my chars.... i wanna see wat kinda dupes ull give me lol
yeeeey! a fellow d2 player!!! still playing it right now! i got a PVP hybridmancer and also a PVP poisonmancer with end-game items and weapons. poisonmancer used to be a mediocre PVPer because of rejuvenation potions plus virtually every PVPers have enigma and just teleport away momentarily if bone prisoned then heal then teleport to kill you. but i believe it has potential. still, hybridmancer with maxed bone spear and teeth is better because it can bypass resistances plus it can kill while poison attacks leave enemies with 1 health.
D2.. Best game in my book! Both necro builds have their merit. Poison Nova can kill your opponent if they're hit directly. But yes, that's why we use fire golem... Get's that last hit in with HF at great distance. Against most builds (or even unsuspecting GG foes), it only takes one hit.
@@Coooley yeah i created a nonladder poisonmancer just months ago i just went back to it an hour ago my chars are saved both in google drive and flash drive for backup hahaha!
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well the poisonmancer, though survivable, is really, REAAALLLY fun on ladder games specially if the enemies are not yet in full endgear like 90% resistances and integer resistances. it eats up mid tier and heck even some high tier enemies like crazy! you got to have full revujs and antidotes ready all the time if your set is not yet complete.
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i discovered though, that adding lets say a few summons, can actually mess up melee builds because the summons teleport around you. it's like additional armor against chargerdins or zealots. it makes poisonmancer more durable.
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also the trang oul set was the go-to for poisonmancers though i still use spirit runeword in a sword and a bone shield for cool factor hehe!
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oh goodness. the good ol days . the nostalgia my man! hahaha!
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you playing on old diablo 2 ladders or path of diablo bruh?
Thanks for the in-depth response, man. Summons are typically considered BM in PvP, but... When you need to bm some people, it makes you almost untouchable. It's very difficult for dins to charge you when you've got revives/summons! I've dabbled in ladder a bit, but usually prefer NL. No Path of Diablo for me :P
@@Coooley oh, why not? heard path of diablo is getting another major revamp.
dude
whats your nova damage at here? I got one i made its slightli different than yours, mines at a little over 11k nova for 2 seconds or whatever, is that enough to kill or you think its overkill?
GOT HIS ASS.. wait why is my PC MELTING WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey man I made a poison nova necro at the start of this ladder I’m loving it so far!!! I usually just play at 75fcr or I go with 3 piece Trang’s to kill any monster in the game. I find myself killing pit vipers with far more ease. Which has me thinking how viable is 3 piece Trang’s in a duel?
That's really interesting. -25 psn res. With Lower Res and 3-piece Trang you could also cast a pretty nasty Fireball/Firewall to finish from a distance. I might have to test this out.
@@Coooley what conclusion have you come to?
Necro is the CHAMPION of all PVP,
Iron maiden
Poison nova
Bone spirit
Support skills :
Amplify damage
decreepify
Lower resist
Iron maiden
Is the game changer vs TEAM PVP
Poison necro / Spirit necro
the best dueling for pvp plus its anti melee
It depends on your overall defenses to counter melee/physical damages and you destroy easy
They thought that its the paladin or barb or the Werewolf druid,
No..
Its the necromancer 👌💪
I haven't played the game since 2003, so 18 years ago! How are you able to teleport on a necro :0
Runewords! Some new ones like Enigma came in patch 1.10
What a sick build man!
"gonna go quicky into duels without talking" -Duels start at 6:30 ..
A.) Who's that quote from? (haha)
B.) I forgot 6 minutes is an eternity in a UA-cam video :P
I appreciate your feedback, man. Will keep this in mind!
@@Coooley haha no worries man i just found it kinda funny :D
I had an alternative 'hybrid' spec where i also used (and put some skill points in it) bone spirit/bone spear to spam alongside poisen nova. Worked like a charm in pvp
Oh man, you're gonna love the video I post tomorrow lol
@@Coooley I just saw your video on my recomended list, aw you :D Lets see what you made of it :D
Bone spirit is super strong for pvp
Why would u have a problem if Creation uses antidote potions?? Is it not allowed?
Did they fix the getting killed in town glitch?
Golem spawning with another char with merc hostile each other and despawn the golem to get the arrow to soar through town to merk you glitch
I lost all my perfect jewels 15max damage jawns and all my loot on my character killed in town some proper bulls hit
Same thing happened to me on HC once :( Fortunately, they HAVE fixed this!
Coooley good stuff! I’m seriously debating getting back into this game, cool videos, I’ll sub and keep watching!
wow. your build is a beast!
Hey do you remember Tomorrow and TheEndofAllDays?
Why is this not BM if a WW barb with poison charms is ?
In which moments, i mean versus which characters is it smarter to use hoto? When to switch homunculus for spirit? Can you give me an examples? I have all the stuff but i am not sure when i need to put the fcr rings and the spirit and when to use the hoto. No hate pls i am new to the game :D I've done the build the same as yours (took it as an example)
That's awesome that you used this as a guide! Hope you like the build, man. I use Hoto when I need max block and max cast (vs BvC and vs Zon).
Is the Trang bug still around? Where if you were transformed and took lethal you'd switch back?
Are you allowed to use The Jade Tan Do
vs poison necros? Or is that bm?
Novamancers have been around for soooooooo many years..
No game makes the necromancer as fkn bad ass as diablo 2. Summoning skeletal armies ? Warrior Skelies or fire or frost or electric I mean thatshit is fkn awsom!!!
An with no bullshit pay to win walls either.
I wish oldschool everywuest made the necro this bad ass but . Diablo 2 = 1rst place
And eq old school = 2nd place for the awesomeness an what. Necromancer should truly be.
Why are you using Blade & Sorcery music for your video? lol I can't believe I recognized it.
hey do you feel about 125 vs 75 fcr for this build?
Depends on what we're going against. If you're dueling a build where you need to tele in, strike, and tele out quickly (sorcs, necros, bowazons, for example) max cast can pay off. Otherwise I like 75%.
Nice vid! Just returned to D2 last month after reset. Played my first duel game after almost 15 years yesterday. Wind Druid. But necro will be my next
It's an amazing character, man. I definitely slept on the awesomeness of this archetype for years
EastDuels made it. Lvl 84 necro. Got a death web 2-45 with 5-5 psn a fcr circl with resist and str and fcr rings. Arach, upped homu with Eld. Mara 26. Eth sands, and some 3x life Pb skillers. Played a few duel games with it but it’s hard to take out the last bit of hp. Fire golem didn’t do the job for me... it’s a very defensive play style. Prefer bone spear necro a bit more. Know any good guides? Especially with max block?
Max block? Just stomp 'em for the last 1 life. Nova will kill 'em too. Sometimes, I also use lvl 1 Spear from a distance now. With all your charms, that will finish too. Although Fire Golem should do the trick. As with any build, the more you practice, the more comfortable you become with it. JSP should have a decent guide on a MB PnB necro; It's also on my radar to make a video about that version, as well.
EastDuels it’s suiting me way better right now. Currently lvl 89 and I think I’ll w8 until I restart it to a bone spear/spirit necro. Rekking a lot of pvp games atm :-)
I use to face roll with my necro till my account got deleted cause I wasn't able to login ☹️ was really decked out and pretty much unstoppable bone revive I had that weapon in secondary slot that gave u like 6 into revive super op lol
Damn so poison charms don't compliment the poison abilities at all?
PnB? Of course they do
No game makes the necromancer as fkn bad ass as diablo 2. Summoning skeletal armies ? Warrior Skelies or fire or frost or electric I mean thatshit is fkn awsom!!!
An with no bullshit pay to win walls either.
I wish oldschool everywuest made the necro this bad ass but . Diablo 2 = 1rst place
And eq old school = 2nd place for the awesomeness an what. Necromancer should truly be.
the nice part. they didn't over buff the necro. those that wanted to play it's set value played it's set value but not for power. other people missed out just scoring kill boards rather then experience for play value. those other players found neat builds not always focus points of play based on power. and come up with these ideals. those that like to experiment. the other side of 'human' experience points
Bone prison use to make me lag so much when pvping. Good old days of playing on a 32kb connection.
Bruh, you're talkin' to someone who played this one DIAL-UP at one point in his life. Gotta love Rural Maine! haha Glad to run into an OG D2 player, man. Thanks for scopin' out the vid!
I remember upgrading to cable internet in 1998, I guess i was spoiled as a kid lol
@cdxxlife been there done that
@cdxxlife they fixed that bug before I could play with it in the days. but I do remember playing with iron maiden back in the days when it worked as a curse that was useful and worked as an authentic/proper skill (and stand alone useful). when they patched it. they poo'd on the effects.
@cdxxlife the game is way different when you get the collectors edition. even barb item find is puking up regular items not magic
maybe I am living in my head in an alternative reality. but I called my necro CastaNova I guess I just loved the womenizer role with the name cassanova in text transformation.
lolol The names in D2.... Will never get old.
Man this brings back memories. Ghosts were always a total pain. Contrary to my old ass acct name I never really did bm duels. I def don’t remember psn Necs being a big thing at all. My personal fav was always Wind Druid. Just tele stomp on ppl and if they didn’t have enough fhr it’s gg. And of course charge/desync dins. How bad/good is NL dueling right now?
Nice! Wind druids are very fun, my man. Very linear game plan, but extremely effective. NL dueling is good. As with any realm/playmode, you do run into some BM people, but for the most part, people are cool.
called my druid cow_plow back in the days. just a lower level druid plowing cows to level up new characters. can not trade experience value of play for some cost of money.
Do people still use the hero editing software.
Holy smokes!
Man this came out when I was 10 years old. 20 years later it's still held its charm for sure.. are people still buying their gear from d2jsp? That always disappointed me
Oh for sure. That's still a thing. In-game trades on ladder though are better than they've been in years. No more spam bots either!
Actually jsp is the most efficient way to gear chars but if u play on east there is also d2gd where u can just spend real money on gear too lol
Follwed ur guide on d2r - the perf dweb and circ cost a fortune.. but i got everything all perf rolls, just need my GCs and its game on TY !
Nice video. Keep going!
I appreciate that, man. And thanks for the sub!
Can't stand the synergy/runewords in this version of D2. everyone was hax.. everyone teleports... everyone has barb shouts.. shit was so cheesy, and it felt like I was playing a hacked Jamella character XD good video although I hate 1.10+ I used to RIP people with my martial arts assassin... no such thing in 1.10+ Traps or nothing at all.. anywho good day!
Go check out Riftsin videos. Its a Martial Arts / traps hybrid and it's seriously the funnest build ever. you can do Ubers with it, PVP and PVE. The Frozen Orb procs coming out of the Rift runeword just fucking shred.
Ethereal Flail Hoto non indestructible? why?
Eth flails are fine because we don't hit things with it (which is the only thing that damages them)
I beat the number 1 wind Druid with my psn necro back in the day and all his friends started laughing at him. He went to his stash and put on all anti psn stuff on lol
I have some mod for this build that can reach -155 to poison and around 11 k. DMG with Max block all the time .
.here is it ....
The idea is about using 3piece trang's glove /belt/shrunken head (which have a decent block rate and -25 to enemy poison with 3 pieces) ..@ lvl 98/99 it need 26 more dex points than homunculus for Max block ...through poison facets in it .
Enigma ..crafted amulet ( 2 nec and at least 8 FCR and decent stats). two 10 FCR rings with other good res and stats
Head coa two poison facets..(.u can keep another in stash with double ber for DR )
This build have 48 FCR and reach 75 in off hand.
Off hand cta and spirit ( 27+ FCR to complete 75fcr in off hand)..
Inv ...torch /anni/life..fhr poison skillers.........u will need 3 fhr skillers to reach 86 break point.
Stats and skills the same as urs ..
This build gives u a decent firewall spell which will be great distracting the opponent and make him very cautious closing the distance to u.
I think i hit 11k to 13k on battlenet. but for sure it hit at least 10k
love these duel videos. subb'd!
PVP zons using guided arrow are relatively unused and also broken as hell lol
Pvp zons require some of the best and expensive gear, jewels and especially charms in the game
Really nice!
My bro had one a poison nec he always cleared out BM Hdins with AA and auto exit lol
That assassin kid thought your ANDARIEL 🤣, he doesn't ANTIDOTE potion is useless, couldn't stop a POISON NOVA from a necro.. 🤣😂
The kid doesn't know, antidote is for PVM only,
Poison nova cast a million times from a necro user 😂🤣
Try this with a +3 psn bone skill base white wand
heads up. it is bad. get even a lower res curse with 3 nova and maybe spear too. all can be 3 and still be a bad white wand. I would suggest you use a blue 3 necro and 3 nova . with 2 socket at lazurk before trying to build a white. if you got white wand use it for budget and starter gear. waste of time if not
Looks like that barb drinks psn pots.
I think so, too. NBD, though. FPK. On stream the other day, it was surprising to see how many people absolutely hated losing to a poison nova necro haha. Did everything they could to survive.
which server is it ?
USEast
No1 can even get close to you. I guess this game is not very balanced at all.
Ur necro name Oko means eye in polish :)
I would go aldurs and bramble over enigma and treks
In PvP, it's really hard to give up Teleport with this build. Bramble is over-kill in most GM duels, anyway. That being said, if we had a teleport charge amulet... Now THAT would be an interesting build! Also, necros need FHR from Treks. Otherwise, we'd never have escaped those mindblasts from Creation. Good seein' you on here again, man!
@@Coooley teleport resets holy fire aura for fire golem js and yeah dude i'm still around
TBH with you Bro your Psn Necro is Very weak My bro, This is a top shelf Dueler, you'd have to redo your charms, Any Kinda Lightning Sin or Sorc woulda Caused havoc to You or FOH.... 3k+ Hp and capp'd res
most times I would think. but FOH is weak to other builds. so don't buff your charisma points too many for your dialog
it's not about other builds it's about his necro, lol
he didn't have the greatest stats or resist this is one of my fav builds. next to the Bone necro, which bone necro slays all.
just waiting for the remaster anyday Now Blizzard....
Mind dueling my ghost sometime?
Not at all. Look for me on one of my streams and I'm sure we can make somethin' happen.
im doing D2R what is best pvp char? specily toards idiot people destroing your game with smite/chargers
For those cases? Probably a Bone Necro? Bone Prison then and Spirit the shit out of 'em.
Nice u need to come to d2ga.net server.
Been on there a few times, man. It's really fun! Great way to test builds.
Curse and bone prison not duel 😩
What? Lol. It's cool to BP peeps who have Enigma. GM Rule Video to come! Thanks for watchin', man.
@@Coooley I don't really understand not English sorry but I remember curse and bone prison not allowed that suck as hell and it's not duel for old player I am.
But if u have fun that's good ☺️
I'll look if u have other char duel clip ❤️
@@Coooley i believe he meant curse and bone prison are not suitable for duel and he is somehow right. bone prison and curse can be escaped through teleport . but for those who dont have a way to escape it... MWAHAHAHA destruction! :D
you potted
Mana's Gucci
Its not pvp unless its fpk lol
Fire absorb and this build sucks.
Hahahahahahahahhahahaahahaha i’m 100% agree with that movie :D
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