The best health system is… in Portugal! 🇵🇹
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- In this video, I'll tell you everything about the health system in Portugal. I'll cover topics such as public healthcare, private healthcare, insurance for expats, waiting times, and much more! If you're moving to Portugal, this video is a must!
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00:00 How the health system in Portugal works
01:16 Who can get access to public healthcare in Portugal
02:07 How to register for healthcare in Portugal
03:18 Waiting times in hospitals
07:51 Referrals, prescriptions, exams
09:04 What’s included in public healthcare
09:33 Private insurance in Portugal
10:12 Prices for health services
10:58 Service in hospitals: my experience
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Hello. I’m a Portuguese MD (an allergist in Algarve) and I must say that most of the qualities you mention as booking directly with a specialist besides your GP (which is also a specialty in Portugal) and short waiting times, are only for the private sector. And most Portuguese cannot afford an insurance, at least as good as yours, with our wages. This is why you have some Portuguese commenting negatively on our health system. And we do have 24h waiting times in emergency sometimes! (In public hospitals). The public system is falling apart and that’s why we have been having several strikes from nurses, doctors and other HCP. If nothing is to be done, we will loose that 12th spot soon…
well as Portuguese I can only add, yes everything can be improved in all matters... yes public hospitals are where the majority of the Popullation has to be treated, so its a very big number to serve... but the money spent on the system is huge, most of the problems and there are many has the system as said is big, but in my view and I have several friends MD , I even have a brother witch is professor in washigton DC in a University for future Doctors in one colloge of medicine, and the need for more personel sometimes is the problem not so much the money the state pays. comparade to other professions and general salaries, doctors are not payed badly, I just yesturday was looking at the salaries for an entry doctor to the top of the career and for Portugal is very correct ( we are not a rich country ). One of the big problems is made by the "Ordem dos médicos" witch restrict the number of candidates of medical schools with the complacency of the political power, that over the years gives this problem of not so many doctors to contract at least for some areas. And doctors nowadays they want to live more than well, they see their old collegues in private hospitals and their private offices making the double or more and they simply want more and more and because there are no many doctors, some and I know a few they devide work from public and private , they often work in one public and several private units this is a problem witch is now one of the biguest problems I would say, so probably you have other opinion or you are young and dont see this, not saying all doctors are like this , but well I just wanted to respond leaving this for the 12th place on that ranking, the nurses are other problem to, just yeasturday the news was the state payed just this past year in extra hours for doctors has many as 2775 entry doctors take as ealy salary...so its not that the state is not putiing money, the problem is the number of doctors that are not in the market because from the last 20 years the "ordem of medicos" is strategicly defending the corporation of doctors, here are lobby problems its called, but there are others yes....
Já perdemos o 12 lugar há muito tempo
Há que perguntar quem fica a ganhar com o fim do SNS.....
Bem estive recentemente a ver a tabela salarial publicada pelo SIM e ....assim não dá
I think that all these strikes come more from the Portuguese health system, which was made more for a certain number of people. What is coming from immigrants of all nationalities in portugal nowadays is ridiculous. The laws that the government put in opening the borders so easily, will not help Portugal and it is already overloading the national health system... because so many people arrive every day, and the doctors and nurses are less and less. These people who are arriving, how will they be attended to? This, of course, overloads the Portuguese health system and makes it worse from now on, and much worse. Why, less doctors for the amount of people arriving to live in Portugal? it just can't handle it, Portugal is a very small country and the governance system is also small, it simply won't be able to deal with so many people arriving every day to come and live in portugal.
Portugal has already gone through the Covid-19 crisis, in which many health personnel died, many were afraid and did not even go to work, those who worked were insufficient, and then, we can say that the public health crisis began. In which many doctors and nurses simply quit because they didn't want to work like this anymore... too many shifts, too much overload. With so few staff they were overworked. Who wants to work under these conditions? But that's not all, the medical profession has always been a respected and organized profession, but in recent years it has been seen that this is not the case, and the workload has changed for the worse, which means that when many go to university, do not choose medicine. Because it is no longer a profession that is no longer pleasant, but hard and very poorly paid in Portugal. But of course, this is my honest opinion, others will have another point of view.
@@estevaocunha5302 na verdade ( em teoria) a carga horaria até diminuiu -35h semanais-apenas quem trabalha em regime de exclusividade faz até 42h ( o que no caso de um chefe de serviço, dá um acréscimo de cerca de 1200€ )
Há que valorizar os salários dos médicos que em início de carreira ganham menos que p.ex .um professor e levar a que os médicos não trabalhem ao mesmo tempo no serviço público e na concorrência [ eu não posso trabalhar em simultâneo na "minha empresa " e numa empresa concorrente ( um jogador não pode ao mesmo tempo jogar no SLB e no SCP , um trabalhador da Coca-Cola não pode trabalhar ao mesmo tempo na Pepsi)]
E há que repensar a medicina privada que na maior parte dos casos ( há poucas excepções) só funciona com financiamento público
And people want more money!!
If we are the 12th in health care... I'm really really sorry for the rest of the world
Mas não somos. Sabe bem disso. Provavelmente o Governo a manipular os dados para "fazer bonito" :(
This, to be honest
Sigh... True
Yup! Very sorry for them if we are 12th!
But sometimes we don't know how lucky we are when compared to many other countries.. even with all the flaws...
Dont forget that in another countrys they dont have social health care, you have to have ensurance or you dont have health care at all
The thing with the public health system waiting times is how it's divided. If you have a very serious problem you'll be treated as fast as possible and with the best treaments ther is, something like a cancer, etc... But if you need a routine check it normally gets longer to wait.
This.
Just remember that a lot of portuguese will complain in a different context. Say, i complain if i have to wait 2 hours in an hospital when 2 hours would be great for others. You can have the best healthcare system in the world but people will still complain about something. The moment a foreigner "adjusts expectations", it will also start complaining at a different level. :D
yup, I totally agree!
If you are loosing eyesight and need to be cared urgently. You may loose the eysight before you get calleed. Only people that praise this kind of system are ignorant americans that think the grass is greener on the other side or young people that never had actual health issues other than breaking an arm or a constipation.
2 hours hahahaha try the whole day
@@davidpt I was talking about the concept/adaptation to a new reality but i'll tell you something. My wife pays 50 euro/month for private insurance and she doesn't have that waiting issue. Before you say private is to expensive, remember that most people that say just that walk around with a 1000 euro iphone and pay 100 euro for net/tv. Probably they even pay Spotify and Netflix. Reducing internet speed is usually a bigger issue than waiting for services.
I'm portuguese and a very proud one and finally someone realises that our health sistem is very good comparing to many other countries. Thank you!
i might apply to move to Portugal by next year. Do you recommend me to have private insurance for private hospitals and forget about public hospitals in Portugal ? Another question please: Do people wait a lot at private hospitals ?
@@ghassanjenainaty4212 Hello, since COVID our public hospitals have been full and have long waiting times but at least you don't have to pay anything and you don't lose anything by trying. As for private hospitals, I advise you to take out insurance, you have insurance from €13 per month, I can't afford any type of insurance so when I need to go to an emergency, I pay around €100/150. As for the waiting time, it is generally around 2/3 hours with scans and blood tests already carried out.
Yulia, another good one!👍❤️
thanks Chidozie!
Great Video, Yulia. I'll binge watch your videos about Portugal. I'm Luso-Brasileiro and we thinking to retire in Portugal in a couple decades or less. Obrigado. Fique com Deus.
Wonderful !! Very informative .
Glad you think so, Doron!
Yulia, I don't think you mentioned, you can go to private hospitals with an insurance, but you can also go with no insurance. Just pay the fees. Normally, 80 to 120€ per consultation, depending on the specialist. ER in private hospitals, same thing. Of course it will cost more. I remember a few years ago, at 2 am, with no insurance, just received some meds through a catheter, 300€...
And another thing, in public service, if you need a specialist, first you need to go to your family doctor to schedule it (he sends a request via online app). It's not possible to schedule an appointment to a public hospital.
Hi, at least you can get a referral to a specialist via online app. The Cdn system is so outmoded, you must get a written referral from a family physician and wait times to see specialists are typically several weeks to months.
Excellent explanation
Whilst on paper the healthcare system seems great: it's basically "free" (you pay with your own salary), and you have access to everything, there's long waiting lists for simple procedures many times like an MRI, unless you go to a private hospital.
Usually private hospitals send a lot of people to the larger hospitals which are public, because the specialists are there. Those same specialists are also over worked and underpaid and many of them don't have the resources to take care of you as well as they could.
There's a lot of people abusing the healthcare system, also putting a lot of strain in ERs. There were tons of maternities closing down due to lack of people and investment. A pediatric isle was constructed in Porto and it took 10 years in unsanitary containers due to lack of government funding.
For some people a lot of the waiting times (5-6 hours + for non urgent topics) might not be a long time, and for other it is. What I can say is: the healthcare system is good, but very flawed, in need of changes and it's not as good as outside people might make it out to be due to the way it's organized
thanks for the information, Pedro! I think Portuguese healthcare is really good compared to North American for example. It definitely has it's own flaws but it's not terrible (from what I've experienced so far)
This kind of services are common for the whole Western Europe. But great to know that Portugal is also developed in this aspect!
didn’t know that! I’ve heard bad things about EU healthcare 🥹
@@ThisisYulia oh really? Who says something bad about EU? :D Kidding but I can speak for Germany, Belgium and Austria and it's pretty good :) In Belgium we pay 70€ per year for the insurance :D and it considers on of the best medical care in Europe.
But great to know about Portugal since we consider to move there. Thanks for sharing!
I think it really depends on the country. I have a friend in Czech Republic and she is not a fan of the healthcare there 😓
I would love to know when you do a video for your dental appointment!
Please!! ❤
2:29 If you need to go to a ER,go to centros de saúde if you want to treat symptoms because they generally are prepared to treat smaller things whereas in hospitals it's for more complex and worse things,therefore only go this ER if you really need.Some Portuguese people don't think like that and the staff on the public hospitals' ERs gets overworked and has to take care of not that important patients rather than actual dangerous emergencies, when they could be treated in the health centres.
Hello Yulia, Great information! Thanks. But I have a question not related to healthcare. You mentioned about replacing your Canadian driver license to Portuguese one. I am from Ontario and need to do the same. Question: did you have to get your Canadian license certified by Portuguese embassy in Canada? It seems it is needed from what I learned from the internet. That would be a big headache. Can you share your experience? Thank you very much.
basically public healthcare is free but slow and has some extra bureaucracy, in private you pay a bit more and its fast, most people get healthcare insurance which gives much cheaper prices in private sector, I personally have health insurance thru my employer which is very cheap.. I pay like 15 euros for full coverage, including glasses and dental etc..
Great video! Do you have any info on alternative healthcare? Is it accessible as well? Im a Canadian interested in working in Portugal as an acupuncturist and researching the options :)
I’m not quite sure about the alternative medicine in general but I’ve seen many chiropractors in Lisbon 🙏🏼
There is a market for alternative medicine so you could do well
Im a 50 year old portuguese and i never have had a Family Doctor... nowadays, i get my prescriptions from the Health Center or from a Private Health Service. Our SNS its not great, but is so much better than the great majoritys of in other nations
oh wow, not bad!
I'm Portuguese and let me tell you that our health system is horrible, for you to say thar, I can't imagine how bad it is in your country.
trust me, healthcare in North America is much worse 💀
Não tenho nada contra. Comigo, sempre foram impecáveis.
@@ThisisYulia the healthcare sistem is great, people always get something to brag about.
Ты меня так обрадовала))
После Канады это слышать прекрасно!)
Обязательно все попробую 😂
ура!
do you edit your vedios yourself? what software and equipments you use?
Ничего себе! Слышал от разных блогеров, что оч тяжело всё с медициной в ЕС из-за того, что нужно долго ждать приёмы и тд. А тут в Португалии есть вариант платной медицины такой, что можно аж на следующий день попасть к врачу... Очень круто! Спасибо за видео, информативно. Рад, что Португалия вам приносит такие положительные штуки относительно Канады (помню видео, где вы грустили из-за некоторых вещей, которых вам не хватает в Португалии относительно Канады)
Европе Европе рознь) говорила с друзьями из Чехии и Германии, они плюются с местной медицины поэтому тут видимо как повезет) спасибо 🙏🏼
My wife and I just moved to Portugal recently. We enjoy your videos, very informative and fun. We enjoyed your health care video. However we would really appreciate the name of your private health care provider..
THANKS, Steve and Lee
thanks Steve and Lee! I use Aegon Future Health
Private Hospitals are quite good in Portugal, Public not quite so. Public system is underfounded and understaffed, good doctors leaving to private. Private Insurances are renewed every year. So if you have a severe health problem don't be surprised if you insurance is not renewed.
thanks for your comment, Luis! really good to know that 🙏🏻
Well it depends , I am Portuguese I am 51 , I can say this , it can depend from hospital to hospital , I was last month 11 days in the Cascais Hospital, on the urology unit because I entered with a "Prostatite com obcesso" , the " urgency " i can say was the worst but we know everybody goes even when things are not that urgent, so "urgencias sao sempre diria o pior" I was nevertheless seen in urgency quite fast , and when seen immediatly the doctor said you are are not going out today you will stay , they rightly saw it was prostate problem I was clueless and thinking it was an hemmroid problem of the sort, they immediatly I mean in 20m made me a TAC (MRI scan I think its called) , I then took some hours to go to the Urology unit because it was full, that i can say was the poor part I had to wait fully assisted but on the emergy room where were all the beds with I lot of old people , the room had like 20 or more bad all bad situations that were pilling up on the emergency, after that I went to the 7th floor and my room had 2 persons, the room was very good, super quiet the bed was very good had private WC, TV , I was there for 11 days it was like an hotel , breakfast at 8am , lanch at 12:30 , at 4:30 pm tea and bread with butter , dinner at 7:30pm and at 11pm some more tea and cookies, I made 3 TAC (MRI) in all, i was with antibiotics all intravein , Man it was very very intense , they gave pills, bags and bags in the vein because I had major pain , I was very bad, they were on top of me all the time checking , they took more than 5 times blood tests , it was a superb stay like I said like an hotel, when I left super well just a bit weaker has when you dont walk you get a bit weaker and the stuff I had really stressed my sytem. after one week they sent me the TOTAL BILL of 41€ for all the TAC´s (3xMRI) all the blood tests all the pills and the 11 days of room hotel treatment food.... I entered almost dying with 42 degrees of temperature and shaking because of it, with pains that I never had and in the end I was good to go home, I was prescrebed and went to the pharmacy with 18€ more I purchased more antibiotic and pain pills if they came again , they never did, took the antibiotic more 14 days and after one month now I am super ok and all is behind .... I can say in the US with all this ( I have american customers when said they said with that you could became homelless in the US ) so , yes urgency is the worst but if something serious comes you are more than ok at least in the Cascais hospital for sure witch is a public hospital. I payed happilly the 41€...
One hour??? OMG! In Canada, you go to the ER with a book and a sense of humour. Thanks for this - we're moving from Ottawa to Portugal in November, and your videos are super helpful.
Glad you enjoyed it, Rob!
This isn't 100% true though. Unless you go to a private hospital, public hospitals tend to take a long time due to the sheer number of people. A lot of old people just go to the ER to complain about a back ache which is nothing, it's just them being alone. My recently departed grandfather who died at 84, was known by the hospital and the doctors used to do a quick check up to understand if he was serious or not and usually they would just tell him to go home or give him a placebo shot, but these people usually take a lot of the spaces in public hospitals for people who actually need unfortunately.
Funny thing your video popped up cuz I just finished reading chronic condition by Jeffrey Simpson on why Canadian health care sucks. It's only "good" if you're urgently dying right now! If you're dying slowly, you wait months years...if you make it 🤣
We do have telemedicine here like Dialogue, but it's so so. Good enough to get blood test prescription.
Fun fact I learned. QC has the most private clinics in the whole of Canada which is semi against the healthcare act. Also, Canadian healthcare contrary to popular belief is already very similar to US healthcare and funding it even more won't make it work.
I wonder what kind of horrible crisis must happen for Canada to finally start adopting European system 🙄🙄
Thanks for sharing your experience! 🙏
thanks Kate! yeah, I wish Canada had EU system 😮💨 maybe one day haha
❤❤❤ please 🙏 what would be the cheap& best student insurance in Portugal ?
This is very strange to me. I moved here from Poland and in my opinion and experience of friends and family the healthcare in Poland is better than in Portugal. Why is Portugal 12 and Poland 50? No clue. I actually FLY to Poland if I need something to be done fast and/or well.
Because, unfortunately, rankings are made based on info provided by governmental sources and do not reflect the reality. Contrary to what she says, the national health system is collapsing (also due to the "health tourism"), but you wouldn't know it unless you have lived here long enough, which she obviously hasn't.
@@mariannasoares2388 I have been here shorter than her and I'm an EU citizen so I am pretty much treated the same way the Portuguese are by the system. I noticed it immediately. Also, what seems "cheap" to Americans or Canadians, like the 40 euro copay at Urgencia seems super expensive to me! When you have a sick child in Lisbon you have to have good insurance and spend 40 euro on top of it or wait for god knows how long at the public hospital. It is not the case in Poland. I am not saying the quality of healthcare is bad, because I did not do anything serious, but the accessibility and price is much much worse than what I am used to.
@@alayde91 You might as well just pay for insurance and go private. Don't even look at public health care, that's what I usually recommend pepole
@@alayde91 Well, I don't know where in the EU you're from, but I'm Italian and find prices in Portugal much more affordable for healthcare, and the overall technological advancements are more profound (no hospital in Italy has an "app" to book anything, the social services are provided only by the phone, and doctors don't work remotely). When you say that it "seems cheap to Americans or Canadians" you already show your pre-conceived bias a lot. She's not Canadian. She's Russian. A Country that is definitely poorer than any other in the EU.
Do we have to take appointment how long we should wait
Hi Yulia, which private health insurance would you recommend?
I have future health. super happy with it!
Great video! Wanna move to Portugal now.
Please do 😈
Sigh. Me too.
"Wanna move to Portugal now"
Ничего себе... 🫣
You don't need to register yourself on a private hospital unless you want to. I am Portuguese and to be honest, SNS could be better. If you are foreign it is easier for you to go to a hospital. If your Portuguese,wait if you want.😢
Not really. Elderly waiting hours in the rain just to get an apointment. People waiting years for a surgery. Emergency rooms closed due to lack of staff. Pregnant women travelling hundreds of miles to deliver babies. An so on
Paulo, thanks for this information! It's helpful to know about other people's experiences 🙏🏻
In a country only 200 miles across where do these pregnant women live that they have to travel so far for delivery? In the Dakotas in the US we have Natives living in reservations without birthing facilities where this is the actual case.
There is no wait time in India as well
nice!
Hey Yuliaa, I’m a bachelor student of International Relations and I’ve been interested in pursuing my studies in Canada. I have stumbled upon a university called the University of Canada West, and it has had a lot of controversial opinions and reputation. Considering my budget, so far it has been the best option I’ve found, but again, if the diploma I get from that university will have no value and if I won’t be eligible for PGWP, then I’m not too sure whether that is the right choice. I will be starting my bachelors again for BA, and considering the fact that my grades are not satisfactory for entry to other public universities as well as my budget I’m really conflicted as to what to do. I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Thank you for your time :)
PGWP is a private university where tuition for even Cdns is a rip-off. You may wish to explore programs in accredited State universities in Eastern Europe.
That "Yep" single handedly roasted Canadian health care system
What’s it like moving to Portugal for someone with mental health
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I LOVE YOU YULIA ❤ YOU ARE SO PRETTY 😍
I might apply to move to Portugal by next year. Do you recommend me to have private insurance for private hospitals and forget about public hospitals in Portugal ? Another question please: Do people wait a lot at private hospitals ?
get both cause you never know. as for the waiting times, it really depends on the specialist you wanna see, the hospital etc. I can get an appointment with a GP same / next day in Lisbon. as for the specialists, I might wait for a few weeks to see them
@@ThisisYuliawhat do you recommend me to choose and how you it cost per month? I guess the health system in Portugal as a whole is better than Canada as it is being horrible in Canada
I pay 70 EUR/month for private health insurance but I'm pretty sure you can find a cheaper option. Portuguese healthcare is much better than Canadian for sure!
Ok dear, thanks for your informations. I guess 70 EUR per month can be worthy. Any way i hope you wont need to see a doctor all your life and enjoy good health@@ThisisYulia
Добрый день Юлия! Посмотрел и послушал с большим интересом! Удачи в Лиссабоне!!! 😊
спасибо большое!
@@ThisisYulia в следующий раз полечу в Лиссабон, захвачу немного снега для Вас. У нас в Торонто его ещё много…. 😄
буду рада 🥹
Don't come to Portugal for healthcare. You will be seen as a foreigner. There is no recognition of the reciprocal agreement with other countries. If you can speak Portuguese, and are a wizard on computers and cell phones, you may have better luck. Nothing is universal, there are multiple disconnected small networks.that do not share information. As far as insurance, you need to check whether the the network, or the hospital, or even th doctor, accepts your insurance.. And if you go to public hospital, you will be greeted with resentment. All of this inefficiency will tax your patience to the point of utter defeat.. Best of luck😢
The portuguese health system is the best. If you're unemployed you don't pay nothing. If you have a job, you just pay the minimum. I had a heart problem and I was treated for free all the time even when my babies were born. Our system is great.
I believe you are wrong....anybody, citizen or not can go to a portuguese Hospital. They will be charged 23€ and that's all. If you need exams, a CT Scan, for example, costs 15€. I leave in other countries and I love the ones in Portugal ( even if can take some months for an appointment)
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I’m very surprised…! I thought Portugal was significantly less advanced. Good to know the current geopolitical atmosphere in the aspect of health care.
same here!
Please, please do your own research. There is a huge difference between how pretty the Portuguese health system looks on paper, as it were, and what actually happens, especially in the case of serious illnesses.
Marianna, please share with us what actually happens in case of a serious illness, so we’re all aware what’s the “reality” of the Portuguese health system. thanks
@@ThisisYulia You are the expert on this, aren't you 😉
@@ThisisYulia In Portugal, if you have serious health problems, private hospitals send sick or injured people to large public hospitals, which have, in particular, the most specialized doctors and equipment.
You are getting allergies?
The spring pollens are kicking in
nope, didn’t get it last year. will check next week whether it’s mold allergy or asthma 🫠
@@ThisisYulia were you wearing masks last year?
I think they were canceled after we arrived (~October 2021), so I wasn’t wearing a mask
I am Portuguese, living in Canada, in Canada the health care system is different for each province, the Portuguese like to complain, think they are worse off than everyone else, I have had to wait for close to an hour outside a clinic to see a doctor, the temperature was -15, very windy, stormy, I was frozen,,(I am in my late 70’s), I see my family and friends seem to get doctors appointments, faster, exams done, here they say we no longer do those exams at your age etc
Sou Portuguesa vivo no Canadá, cada provincia tem o seu sistema de saúde, ja tive de estar uma hora na rua à espera de entrar numa clínica, com temperaturas a 15 graus negativos, uma tempestade de neve, estava gelada, e já tenho setenta e tal anos,
.ouço a minha família e amigos em Portugal que me parece mais depressa conseguem ver o médico, e se quiserem podem ver um médico particular, se podem, aqui não há médico particular, também me parece que é mais fácil fazer exames clínicos aí, aqui tem relutância, são caros etc, a não ser se se suspeita de uma doença realmente grave etc. parece-me que os portugueses se queixam, não sabem como é noutros países, deve haver melhores e piores.
Private health care is very very expensive for portuguese pockets 😋
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уважение Португалии..
Como se vê nos comentários, há muita gente em Portugal que não conhece outras realidades, mas reclamam... de barriga cheia... só porque lhes apetece reclamar...
Trabalhei na Holanda (antes da pandemia), havia uma espécie de imposto obrigatório para o plano de saúde (à data, o equivalente a uma renda de casa em Portugal) e ainda assim, se tivesse o azar de ter uma patologia urgente ou grave mas que não fosse para morrer, no mínimo esperava 24 horas ou então apanhava o avião no dia seguinte de manhã e vinha à santa terrinha resolver o problema...
(escrevo em português, porque esta mensagem é para os portugueses que aqui comentam)
Mais um tachista que provavelmente vai ao privado.
Volta para a Holanda.
Mis um comuna anti tuga, a falar mal do melhor país do mundo, que podia ser ainda muito melhor, se lguns se mudassem para a sibéria, para sberem o que è bom para a tosse.
Volta para o pré escolar
@@joaosoares3861 comuna anti tuga é quem te fez as orelhas. Para que saibas ecografias obstétricas só para junho... A pagar é já para a semana ó panhonha do melhor país do mundo. E creches... É melhor nem falar disso que o puto não teve lugar em nenhuma das 6 em que se inscreveu... Falsas Promessas dos teus queridos Socialistoides tachoides. João Soares? Por acaso não és filho do João Villaret? É que és a cara chapada do teu pai... É só fazer as contas.
I don't pay anything because I'm physically disabled
It’s really disgusting to show dr. I was waiting 15 hours without any benefit. It’s was Angelo Beatriz Hospital. That’s really shocked me 😢😢
nah it isnt lol or maybe u just didnt have to wait 12h in sao joao hospital just to be treated by a doc
The portuguese healthcare sistem is great, people just always have something to complain about.
Please people, whatever you do, do not decide to move to another country based on the info provided by a UA-cam video of someone who - having lived in a country for a very limited amount of time - obviously DOES NOT know the ins and outs of that particular country.
Marianna, could you please define what’s not “limited time”? 10 years? 20 years? I’ve been living in Portugal for almost 2 years now and I’m pretty sure I know what I’m talking about. I’ve been to both public and private hospitals, so I think I’m capable of giving my own opinion on the healthcare topic
The national system it's colapsing
12th ??? What a lie . who did this study? came to Portugal to test that ? for example last time I went to the hospital because of otitis reach at 9 am with 39.8 fever I was seen as 5 pm . and that is the 12th health care? what a lie
Are you kidding to me? Im portuguese i live here and its not true.
people have different experiences 🤷🏼♀️
Another prove statistics don’t show the whole picture
A poor country, one of the most indebted in the world and also with one of the highest tax burdens to pretend to be rich. It must be said that in Portugal there are people who die due to lack of medical assistance, there are waiting lists for consultations and urgent surgeries that are years old and we have people making videos that do not fully correspond to the truth, inducing even more people to come here to seek medical care. health that are not enough for the natives, let alone for the outsiders
No lady. Its not cheap or free, it cost us a lot. Despite being a "good" system in your words, its payed and mantained by the portuguese people, aka natives. The ones that earn a 800 euro monthly salary, and have to pay for the health system you are talking about. Use it or not. We do not need to crowd it with wealthy pensioneers doing health tourism and taking advantage of the poor financial condition of the country.
As a Portuguese, i strongly disagree, our health system is a disaster in permanent breakdown, you don't know what you're saying
It's all about perspective. I can tell you the same about the Italian healthcare system, because it's easy to complain about things than appreciate you live in a country where you can get treated at the highest level of care for free or for cheap, but it's just factually false. There are billions (BILLIONS, with the b) of people around the world that would book the flight tomorrow if they could, and more than 300m+ that still die from diseases Portugal has eradicated for decades. So, it doesn't really matter if you, David, disagree. Stats are stats for a reason.
The devil is in the details, though. Public healthcare is very costly in taxes (~950€ per person, ill or not, every year -- that's nearly two minimum wages), high waiting times (months, often), once in a while there's lack of stock for certain medicines or vaccines, hospitals are always packing and rushing to send people home ASAP, once in a while staff goes on strike (which only ever happens in public services), health centers are absurdly inefficient and you can literally spend an entire day on the waiting line...
On top of that, a lot of medicine isn't covered by the public healthcare system, as mentioned in this video. Growing up I kept hearing my grandparents always complaining that their retirement money -- or pensions, or whatever it was -- was never enough to cover their medical expenses, let alone to live with.
And the only problem with using private healthcare is just that it's going to be an extra expense on your shoulders, because you can't opt out of having to pay for public healthcare when you're not using it.
thanks for this information! it's really interesting because when I was doing my research about what public healthcare covers, they say that almost everything is covered 😵💫
@@ThisisYulia I suppose everything during a treatment is covered, but I don't think the medicine you take ongoingly is. I haven't needed any of that in quite a while, so I can't say for sure. But then, at the end of the day, none of it is being given to you for free. You're paying for all of it in taxes, unless you're a healthcare-tourist. Things being "covered" is really just an illusion.
yeah, free healthcare = paid from taxes like anywhere in the world 🫠
You mentioned in another video you don't find it hard to find friends and activities in Portugal. Is it still the case? 100% of your videos about Portugal are filled with comments from Portuguese locals saying you have no idea what you're talking about, that the entire country is poor and struggling, and that people like you are the problem. I find it hard to even just try to talk to someone here, because even if I'm Italian (a Country with very similar problems), they'll start telling me for hours on end all the ways I'm the reason they're poor, mostly based on completely made up stats or costs (one told me "people come here with 200k salaries and then wonder why we hate them"... who tf comes here with 200k salaries? Most immigrants are from the EU. Richer than the minimum wage in Portugal? Yeah, but the minimum wage sucks EVERYWHERE around the world. The minimum wage in Italy doesn't even exist. Salaries are not entirely dependant on minimum wages).
Giorgio, I'm mostly friends with expats simply because I don't wanna hear that I'm not welcome in this country. However, I do know some Portuguese people and they're the nicest! Blaming expats on everything is not very smart and fortunately some people do understand that
@@ThisisYulia I'm Portuguese but live in England and have done most of my life. Portuguese people are not necessarily hating you, they hate the government because they favour immigrants (allegedly) over their own people. I personally think that goes for each and every country in the world. As you may know, the UK has the NHS which is free at point of service, but of course it is funded by tax that everybody pays, most national health systems are the same. But people here also complain about the NHS, which is probably one of the best national health service systems in the world, but as usual people must have something to complain about. I watch a lot of channels from people who have moved to Portugal and the thing that they all have in common is their amazement of how friendly the local people are and they cannot do enough for you. The Portuguese are too nice to not welcome you, but if you are mostly friendly with other immigrants (not ex pats, you're all immigrants) then you can't blame people for maybe not warming up to you so much.
Susana, I know that they're hating the government but they do it through hating on immigrants / expats. As for the "people must have something to complain about", I 100% agree with you 🙌🏼
MY CASE has example : I am Portuguese 51 years old , in public hospitals , it can depend from hospital to hospital , I was last month, 11 days in the Cascais Hospital, in the urology unit because I entered with a Prostate problem "Prostatite com obcesso" , the " urgency " i can say was the poorest part of the escellent service given to me, but we know everybody goes even when things are not that urgent, beacuse its cheap, I was nevertheless seen in urgency quite fast , and when seen immediatly the doctor said you are are not going out today you will stay , they rightly saw it was prostate problem. I was clueless and thinking it was an Hemorrhoids problem, they immediatly in just 20m made me a TAC (MRI scan I think its called) , I then took some hours to go to the Urology unit because it was full, that i can say was the poor part I had to wait fully assisted but on the emergency room where were all the beds with I lot of old people , the room had like 20 or more beds all situations that were pilling up on the emergency unit, after that I went to the 7th floor and my room had 2 persons, the room was very good, super quiet the bed was very good had private WC, TV , Window, AC, I was there for 11 days it was like an hotel , breakfast at 8am , lanch at 12:30 , at 4:30 pm tea and bread with butter , dinner at 7:30pm and at 11pm some more tea and cookies, I made 3 TAC (MRI) in all, i was with antibiotics all intravein , Man it was very very intense , they gave pills, bags and bags in the vein because is very painfull , I was very bad, they were on top of me all the time checking , they took more than 5 or 6 times blood tests , it was a superb stay like an hotel, when I left super well just a bit weaker what I had really stressed my sytem. after one week they sent me the TOTAL BILL of 41€ for all the TAC´s (3xMRI) all the blood tests all the pills and the 11 days of room hotel treatment food.... I entered almost dying with 42 degrees of temperature and shaking because of it, with pains that I never had and in the end I was good to go home, they prescribed pills to buy in the pharmacy, they costed 18€ more antibiotic and pain pills if they came again , they never did, took the antibiotic more 14 days and after one month now I am super ok and all is behind .... So public Hospital of Cascais was superb to me, happilly payed the TOTAL of 41€ = to go to a restaurant and have a good meal for 2 persons....but I had 11 days in a good room even with sea view, TV I watched a lot of movies all the ALIEN saga witch I love , had like 11 lanch , 11 dinners , 11 breakfast, and all the exams and all the care from the personell , and they gave everyday new and clean pijamas, I took everyday bath , I mean for 41€ its just not to say bad , and this is for all I am not a special case, everybody has the same right, I am a middle class person, of course hospitals have limits and well people complain , because there is allways a bad case or because people just know to complain of everything and sometimes one has to understand that sometimes hospitals are in full capacity, still you have the private option, but on private they will charge for it all, even with insurance at maximum you will pay in my case much more than the 41€ and I bet it can be worst has normally the public hospitals have the better equipment has the state is not comparable to one institution money purchasing resources
Private helthcare destroyed public service. Propaganda.
Really? most of the locals in portugal have no teeth. It's cheaper to take them out instead of getting them fixed. Jokes on the side, portugal definitely doesn't hace the best health care system
really? I’ve heard dentists are really affordable in Portugal 🤯
@@ThisisYulia my experience was 50 to 100 for a small fix. To some that may seem as not too much of a big deal but the average salaries in portugal are 600-700 euro so if you go for a visit to the dentist your budget will decrease a lot during that month. I also noticed that many locals don't have health care at all
oh wow, that’s kinda expensive! I was told that for 200€ you can fix your whole mouth but I guess that’s not the case anymore. thanks for sharing with me this info!