My Daughter came home from school with this story about Mary Seacole. I was completely shocked so I told her the truth it was hard work trying to get her to actually believe me. Our Children trust and believe their Teachers. To me its appalling that they teach these lies. I love your comment about the Statue, Yes it is strange and the worst thing is these people must have known that what they were doing was false.
Yes, I have had similar from my grandchildren's' teachers. One class were asked to pretend they were politicians. When one of them pretended they were a Right-wing politician, the teacher went mad, telling him, that is racist etc etc etc. They really wanted all the children to choose Left-wingers, Labour. Surely this is political indoctrination in schools which I thought was totally illegal.
@@littlenan3576 Hello, yes totally agree the move is to introduce politics in our education system. This is what has happened in America and has resulted in the division they now have, which in my opinion is far more dangerous than most think ! Recently I received an invite to sign a petition to introduce racial education in Schools on the wake of BLM. I resoundingly declined as this is the thin end of the wedge. Schools are their to educate, not indoctrinate. Politics stay out. We as parents raise our children the State educates them acedemicaly not spoon feed them the current dogma. This is how Communism and Fascism works, indoctrinate the Children.
She was both, lol. She wore many hats and travelled much. But she a nurse practioner and she is recognized as a nurse by the Florence Nightingale Society
@@shelbycain1137 I was taught about her in history GCSE en passant.. She has still to date never come up on any exam, I checked three exam boards and found one possible mark to mention her by name in an irrelevant question relevant to Florence Nightingale
My dad told me about Mary Seacole when I was a child. He was born in 1922. He told me the truth not the story we hear today. So there was a time when we knew real history wasn't there?
@Heloise O'Byrne European history is taught in European schools. Indian in India and African in Africa. The more diverse European countries become history will be created by people with ancestry from other continents and historical records of their achievements will be told.
May Seacole was clearly ambitious and enterprising so her true story could be somewhat of an inspiration for her people. The fact that it has clearly been distorted for ideological reasons demonstrates just how unethical our establishment is.
@@toucan221 What concerns me, is the almost total reliance we have, on digital information, via Satellite , etc. As we get rid of our recorded knowledge, via Books , CD's ,DVDs etc etc What if, in the not too distant future, Satellite's are turned off? No road maps, no Sat-Navs . You cannot enter 'Zones, Districts, Stores, even your own place of work. even your own home, without the right 'Pass-Word. Watch the BBC DVD (while you can) of ''The Last Enemy''. Staring Benedict Cumberbatch. Set in the not too distant future, A world reliant, as related above, scary stuff. We are slowly drifting towards it.
@@MrDaiseymay this is why it is still good to buy real books, or go to the library. the nurse came to see my mother 4 days ago, and I could hear the despatcher at the Ambulance station at the other end of the phone say he could not find the nursing home on Google Map, I thought how stupid, how bad is that, people blindly rely on these as though there is no alternative, there is ALWAYS an alternative. Yes you are quite right to worry 1984 is happening in China Right Now.
Mary Seacole got pushed down our throats at university...literally...and Florence was completely disrespected...shame on them. Thank you Sir for sticking up for our Florence...⚜️🥀🙏
It's got nothing to do with 'sticking up for our Florence'. It has to do with historical facts. A good historian does not have a personal agenda to fulfil.
She wasn't feeding an army.She was feeding overfed high ranking officers and onlookers to battle. She should be torn down and re-erected in a military museum perhaps.
Someone whose name escapes me once said that the masses are liable to fall for a great lie rather than a small one .The small one is easily seen through whilst the great lie cannot be seen through at all.
I have truely learnt something here , I had no idea who and why this was done . I knew who Florence Nightingale was and what she had done . I knew nothing about this it saddens me , but I appreciate the truth . Thank you
According to an article in UK ' Daily Mail newspaper, Florence Nightingale developed her nursing skills while tending wounded soldiers during World War ONE ( 1914-1918 ). How she accomplished this feat was not explained , as she died in 1910.
Fancy Florence's ghost helping in the 1st world War? Still Florence did good work during the Crimean war 1853 to 1856. The Daily Mail are bad historians. LOL 😂
I love your calm, collected, methodical, truthful and unbiased work that you do. I very much look forward to each and every one of your posts. Best channel on UA-cam!
It's so fascinating that the commentator keep, under the fact that she was BLACK and was Jamaican. But no mention that she was biracial and her father was a British officer or during the 1800's Colonials Brit's. British citizens non the less But in true British form you are only regarded as a loyalist. If are middle class and White.
@@stevesproul1627 leave where, do actually think I live in the U.K . Spending time there as a gateway to Europe is enough xenophobia I can take. Very happy living and owning a former plantation in the Caribbean, which by the way was my white side of family ancestral home. Loving my black previlage pass on by my white side of family. Pay back a bitch which keeps on giving. Cheers mate. P.S sold off 7 acres last year being paid Block. Lol
@@charlieb6001 Just trying my best to be like a WASP. I my high yellow black ass got it right or should I say got it White. Lol. Cheers mate keep trucking though
Very interesting. I always had reservations about the story and how true it was.I trained as a Nurse in the 80’s , never heard the Seacole name until I kept hearing about it in the late 90’s, with endless programmes and promotion, mainly on R4.It seemed this person came out of nowhere but they wanted to make up for lost time. If she was a Crimean War Nurse then what difference would her colour make? Would it make her a better or more worthy person? It turns out that she was never a Nurse at all and probably never set foot in a Hospital. It sounds like she had an interesting life but they wanted to create a myth to promote the Multicultural Agenda. How embarrassing that they would put a statue of an hotelier outside St Thomas Hospital, where the world’s first Training School for Nurses was set up, by none other than Florence Nightingale! They must’ve had a good laugh at the irony. How easy it seems to rewrite history, everyone falling over themselves to promote this neglected, major historical figure who, it appears, was an invention.
No, she hasn’t been ripped out of history. We had a talk all about her at Mothers union and I can tell you she still has family around and we had a lot of personal things spoken about her. She is still more famous than that other woman.
As she was 3/4 "white" (Scots father, Creole mother) why do we call her "black"? Is it not "racist" to presume that any black blood in our veins supercedes any other?
For some reason, many people POC ignore the white side of their family, like lewis hamiliton. megan merkle . It would be upsetting for them to be reminded they had white family too.
hmmm 🤔 So you are not familiar with the ‘One drop rule’ then I take it ? and who brought it into being and for what purpose ? Scandalous really ... one should know thy self, surely , before one .. makes conclusions about others ? Maybe ? Yes the ‘one drop rule’ brought about by fearful racist sadistic apartheid imposters barking up the wrong tree yet again here in 2020 .. weak.
@@ParameterSurfer Nevertheless, it is racist to assume that 'black' ancestry supersedes others. Or are you declaring me a "sadistic apartheid imposter"?
And were caught out doing it! www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11130475/CBBC-sketch-inaccurately-painted-Florence-Nightingale-as-racist-BBC-Trust-finds.html
@@alanwilliams3677 Their lies are so plainly idiotic that I wonder how people believe them in the first place, but surprisingly enough, far too many still do and it's abou time these criminals were held responsible for their lying and robbing entire nations of their identities.
@@evazigon5288 History was not debunked. This video was just a monologue denigrating a historical character, no attempt was made to provide any historical sources to authenticate the negative claims he made about Mary Seacole.
Seacole's actual life sounds really interesting. The true racism to me seems to cut all of that out in favour of her being cast as a black Florence Nightingale for no reason. Her business ventures of being a prospector, restaurateur and author, kind of does great damage to the downtrodden woman of colour narrative, doesn't it?
theres a few sites that get posted on fb that show many blk and blk females of wealth and position in usa in late 1800 early 1900 but all ive heard from some is that there were none or very few so yes it does go against the narrative that blk were kept down , this i read in comments about the book to kill a mocking bird where a whyte lawyer had to defend a blk man yet there were about 1256 blk lawyers in usa at that time
She invented a particular type of pie chart. It was her activities AFTER her stint in the Crimea that really made her name. She persuaded the government that field hospitals were a bad idea because they were causing more deaths than the actual wounds. Her detractors today say how unhygienic her hospital was - they didn't know about germs back then - but in fact she made her name precisely by pointing this fact out to the authorities, and by golly she got them to listen!
@@fredneecher1746 the pie chart showed the amount of soldiers dying of wounds in Hospital was greater than those in battle in a way they could accept from a woman in those times that was the purpose of the chart
Plus the fact that she was half-caste so, actually, half-black. But, like Barack Obama, Tiger Woods and Lewis Bloody Hamilton, she has been "upgraded" to black. This is the first of your videos that l've seen and am favourably impressed. Subbed! 😊
The role of an order of Roman Catholic Nuns, "The Sisters of Charity", in the Crimea has been almost entirely forgotten. They did play a very real part in actually caring for troops.
Thank you for putting the record straight. I remember watching a documentary many years ago about Mary Seacole and I was alot younger and naive at the time and believed what is said as it portrayed her life as the selfless dedicated nurse even lying saying that she went onto the front lines and picked up injured dying men and took them back to her "hospital" to treat them. It denigrated the work of Florence Nightingale in the documentary saying that due to racism Mary Seacole had been forgotten about. This documentary was shown on one of the British main TV channels so was obviously a lefty liberal unrealistic version that is sticking to the multi cultural marxist agenda.
She picked up dying men alright 2 empty their pockets.well so ive read . but seeing what africans r west africans do with knives and dem not even being doctors r vets i can belive it
Kookie 97 YES! I totally agree! It's a shame some people just want to argue instead of learning the real truth. Just like our current situation of tearing down monuments. Sad.
the three black ladies in the modern film were NOT the mathmeticians who saved NASA's moonshot. beethoven was not african. and britain was not built by bus conductors and dinner ladies from windrush
@@michaelhall2138 of course, they are someone doing a job. thats it. i think what we are talking about is fake history fake narrative. do you have a point in relation to the OP?
Trajans Method Mary Secole was celebrated in her day by soldiers and the general public.This has been long forgotten.Secole was no Florence Nightingale as regards the creation of modern nursing and her use of statistics.She deserves to be remembered nevertheless.I am well aware that I stand to be lumped with the politically correct crazies but I'm far from it.
Thank you. I always believed MS was more of a career than a nurse. I never believed she was held back because of the huge charity function they held for her. Britain couldn’t have been that racist or supremacist if so many people helped her. Subbed 👍🏻
They only fundraised for her after she supported the troops and the former soldiers sung her praises in the news paper. She also wasn't even Black. Her mother was mixed and her Dad was Wyte. So she only had a drop of Black in her and she was still not well received by many Brits. So the UK was and still is very racist and Wyte Supremacist.
@Andy XxX I spell Whyte that way so YT doesn't delete my comment. They are really hard on censorship on this site. But once again I see you couldn't pass up a chance to be a racist dickhead.
@@levelup9547 so what do you make of in dia where ligh ter are more wanted than da rker , in humour a comedian there said his parents howls when he was born da rk made some hospital staff think the mother gave birth to a girl , there are a lot of sexist people in countries , another word for sexist is male supremacy ,
We had a similar thing happen to us in Canada in 2018. There was apparently a woman named "Viola Desmond" who no one had ever heard of before. Suddenly she was being thrust in our faces in newspapers, magazines, radio and television. Apparently her claim to fame is that one time in 1946 she wanted to sit in the main floor section of a movie theater, but she had purchased a balcony ticket. As a result of this mix-up she was tossed from the theater. (No exaggeration, go read the actual story on Wikipedia). Well this has all been amplified and exaggerated and now somehow she's become Canada's version of Rosa Parks. She's even replaced the founding forefather of Canada on the $10 bill. We're clearly living in some sort of clown world.
Totally don't agree with you that she was made as a rival to Florence nightingale!!!!! That's your personal believe. What negative attitude has ever been shown towards her in Britain???? I've watched a few of your videos now and see your narrative clearly !!! You are a true white supremacist, spending your final days doing everything you can to discredit any positive history on the black race !!! I would not have noticed if it were just a couple of videos mixed in with other parts of history, but you go all in week after week. Here one for you, why don't you do a video on how the world was lied to about what happened to dozens of serving as officers after the 2nd world war !!! That's a truth people may want to know ! How the hell are you making out Florence Nightingale is no longer loved because of the idea of Mary ???? Show me one scrap of evidence to prove there has ever been any form of dislike or rejection for Florence Nightingale in this country !!!!!!! You are the problem trying to create issues where there isn't!!!!!
@@lawrencethomas701 you do know he is reading history books it's not his opinion ,and in the light of present day when race hate against white people due to fake slave history it must be said,or is the truth not important anymore.
Many years ago I remember watching a documentary on Mary Seacole. It may have been in the "Horizon" or "Time Watch" series. The documentary described Mary going out onto the battlefields and attending to wounded soldiers as well as her taking wounded soldiers back to her "station" (it definitely wasn't described as a "hotel") so that she could treat, and care for, injured troops. I seem to remember Florence Nightingale being denigrated due to the unhygienic and generally poor living conditions within the allied hospital or hospitals. Am I remembering correctly and was any of it true?
Great Video, it prompted me to check the main internet source for information on Mary Seacole, the Wikipedia entry, to see the amount of spin involved in the story. It’s clear that she was primarily a victualler and shopkeeper, spending time in her mother’s a boarding house, likely dispensing spirits such as rum as well as other items for serviceman at that time. Her father was an officer in the British Army and she helped attend convalescing visitors from the Army hospital in Jamaica before she was 16. Interestingly, there is no mention of the herbs used but Senna, Coconut Oil and Aloe Vera are common herbs in use at that time. Florence Nightingale did not want her nursing staff visiting Seacole’s hotel in Balaclava. Nightingale says Mrs Seacole was associated with much drunkenness and improper conduct and questioned her purpose in the Crimea. To be honest, it looks like she wanted a free passage out there for the purpose of opening a hotel rather than having an interest in nursing. Treating wounded servicemen is a different job to tending cholera patients with herbs, which was her only experience. Puzzlingly, Seacole says she knew people of the 97th and 48th Regiments serving in the Crimea from her life in Jamaica, yet the Regimental history of the 97th shows no service in the West Indies and 48th Regiment service record in the West Indies ceased in 1796, long before she was born. Wikipedia also has multiple references to her storytelling, from wearing Crimea medals she wasn’t entitled to, to making up stories about being related to famous people.
I love listening to you cats. I'm 47 and live in Wisconsin. Never heard of Mary but Florence Nightingale, she was amazing! History is important to me and should be to everyone. It should be taught as it happened, without sugarcoating, in all detail so it can be learned from and progress can be made. Leaving things out I always thought was the most abhorrent thing now I know that was just the start. I may have drove my kids nuts but I was always tossing out facts and getting upset because they hadn't learned something in school. They learned alot at home and just between the 1st and the last of 3 that went, that covers about 6 yrs, the school went down hill.🤦♀️ My 1st grandchild started preschool this year. I'm concerned about how much worse it's gotten. The race thing finds it's way in heavily here too as I have a Mexican daughter who married a Dominican and my other girl married a black man. Both amazing people but when the uncivil unrest began here under Obama which has blown up this year with increasing demand for segregation it really pisses me off. I'm starting to think about starting a group for pissed off Grandma's everywhere. Free Wooden spoon with membership. 🤣
Thank you, thank you , not just for the truth but of the back story to why they tried to change the truth. I especially like your posts on slavery. Being brought up in the 🇺🇸 public school system the truth is barely touched upon in detail. Thank you also for just reporting the facts. Sounds like you had some military experience.
Shocking, I got sucked into this myth about 30 years ago when a publisher used one of the illustrators at the artist agency I helped run, for a children's book on Mary Seacole. I also remember after that seeing something on TV making Florence Nightingale sound like she was like some sort of bad tempered monster, and Mary Seacole being liked by the patients a lot more.
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Thank you for saying this; what you're doing is very rare today. I found that video very moving.
I’ve just come back to this video Simon because I’m looking through my grandson’s school books from the last terms work. He is 7 years old and there is a page devoted to local heroes…this is in Chelsea where he lives, and Mary Seacole is mentioned, that she nursed and saved soldiers from a bad illness. I’m just checking on your website. Florence nightingale isn’t mentioned at all. Then Bob Marley is mentioned… I can’t for the life of me think why! I know Bob Marley sang many folk songs but was he actually a local hero? I’m still searching, but if he was, it’s the first I’ve heard of it .
I'm sharing a lot of your videos on Facebook so that people - at least those that are still following me - can see the truth about our history - thank you.
I love your videos! As someone else noted, I see, this really shows the depth of the propaganda. Based on her real life story Mary traveled the world looking for investors for an enterprise, and running a restaurant. She is actually a decent role model all her own, had she not been twisted into a replacement role to cancel out Florence. Typical of all modern racial rewrites, they can't just let her be who she was, she had to fit their mold.
True, u got an enterprising black women from British Jamaica trying to prospect gold, traveling, going to crimea, starting a business there and being nice to soldiery, a true British patriot Why they have to denigrate Florence tho is beyond me There's no comparison Florence was - a trained nurse, who actually stepped inside a hospital - advanced the medical field and popularized nursing internationally - actually saved lives - was a wartime hero - devoted her life to the care of the sick - was a pious and honorable lady all her life - founded the first nursing school Whereas Mary seacole - wasnt a trained nurse, she was a doctress basically a witch doctor from the carribean, nothing scientific or medical about her - never stepped foot inside a hospital - never advanced nursing as a profession - didn't save lives She basically showed up in crimea, a " doctress" with no formal training or experience, her background being that of a failed gold mine owner with limited understanding of vodoo medicine, no experience as a nurse, sets up a business to make money, selling lemonade n cakes to soldiers, after the battle was done, far from the front lines There's no comparison
Nauseating stuff about the Windrush, and that wretched smug newsreel. If anyone researched the history of each of those migrants, their careers and what taxes they paid, what would they find? ...and even if each one had contributed (unlikely), they each did it for their own benefit, not altruism.
Thanks once more. You give us more determination to look at these modern 'historians' trying to erase our British cultural history with the utter contempt they deserve.
Still an amazing story that a black woman did that in those days! They built an estate on an old hospital site near me , one the roads is Seacole Ave or something
@@yesihavereadit must have been lol if u have no idea that there was racism just imagine it then hey lol You have the same attitude as the stop and search haters in London mate, well done
Mary Seacole's USP in her lifetime wasn't that she was a black Jamaican. It was what she did for the troops as a cantiniere that distinguished her at the time.
Crimean War was an attack on the Czars by the Rothschild criminal banking cabal. The Czars had interrupted the US civil war which was created by Rothschilds to divvy - up the US. Czars (actually Catherine the Great) had prohibited Central Banking shenanigans, which has run Britain since 1694AD and France since the "French" Revolution against France. The third reason, was the Czars were creating an alliance between Catholic monarchs in Austria, Bavaria and Italy. They were trying to resolve the Catholic Schism of 1035AD and to con-join Orthodoxies of the East, with the Bishop of Rome (papal) States in the west. This could have meant the end of usury. At least the Khabbalist decadence and "degeneracy" Europe presently experiences would have been set back for some time. As a result, the Crimean War laid the foundation for WW1 and WW2 and 6 Czars were assassinated by guess who.
I have a friend who worked as a nurse in the hospital on the IV team, In the ER and on the floor. This is a travesty and a dishonor to her and all other dedicated nurses !!!!
She was in fact a inn keeper, the nursing I believe came about more from the motherly way she treated the troops on leave from the front line who would rest up in the homely atmosphere of her inn. When the war ended suddenly she lost everything and was penny less, yet so loved by the troops they started a appeal to rise money for her on her return to the UK yet she died in poverty. She is of course being used here for political reasons but let's separate the person who was essentially good
My Daughter came home from school with this story about Mary Seacole. I was completely shocked so I told her the truth it was hard work trying to get her to actually believe me. Our Children trust and believe their Teachers. To me its appalling that they teach these lies. I love your comment about the Statue, Yes it is strange and the worst thing is these people must have known that what they were doing was false.
It was reported on the BBC this morning that they would be teaching about her as part of their home schooling project in the future.
Yes, I have had similar from my grandchildren's' teachers. One class were asked to pretend they were politicians. When one of them pretended they were a Right-wing politician, the teacher went mad, telling him, that is racist etc etc etc. They really wanted all the children to choose Left-wingers, Labour. Surely this is political indoctrination in schools which I thought was totally illegal.
@@littlenan3576 Hello, yes totally agree the move is to introduce politics in our education system. This is what has happened in America and has resulted in the division they now have, which in my opinion is far more dangerous than most think ! Recently I received an invite to sign a petition to introduce racial education in Schools on the wake of BLM. I resoundingly declined as this is the thin end of the wedge. Schools are their to educate, not indoctrinate. Politics stay out. We as parents raise our children the State educates them acedemicaly not spoon feed them the current dogma. This is how Communism and Fascism works, indoctrinate the Children.
I hope you sent a letter protesting these lies to the school Govenors and got up a petition with other parents
@@Boudicca15 I certainly complained, it's a disgrace the political agenda they have in schools now. Schools are meant to educate not program our kids.
I grew up on the Mary Seacole myth and have only recently found out the truth about the restaurant proprietor.
I have never heard of her till now.
FGallen for misinformation you mean.
She was both, lol. She wore many hats and travelled much. But she a nurse practioner and she is recognized as a nurse by the Florence Nightingale Society
@@shelbycain1137 what evidence do you believe this recognition provides?
@@shelbycain1137 I was taught about her in history GCSE en passant..
She has still to date never come up on any exam, I checked three exam boards and found one possible mark to mention her by name in an irrelevant question relevant to Florence Nightingale
My dad told me about Mary Seacole when I was a child. He was born in 1922. He told me the truth not the story we hear today. So there was a time when we knew real history wasn't there?
Shades of 1984 here?
@Heloise O'Byrne Yes. true She did train as a nurse,maybe romanticised. I suppose folks at home needed a heroine.
@Heloise O'Byrne thats ok so long as its not a lie.
@Heloise O'Byrne European history is taught in European schools. Indian in India and African in Africa. The more diverse European countries become history will be created by people with ancestry from other continents and historical records of their achievements will be told.
@Heloise O'Byrne but you cant make stuff up to suit , i had someone tell me in dia had nuclear power in history long long before the west
May Seacole was clearly ambitious and enterprising so her true story could be somewhat of an inspiration for her people. The fact that it has clearly been distorted for ideological reasons demonstrates just how unethical our establishment is.
Who is her people? She was not Blk. Her mother was mixed creole and her dad was Wyte which made her approx. 75 percent wyte.
@@levelup9547 the swath of mongrel peoples then, plural because they are not one
It is easier to fool the masses than to convince them they are being fooled.
Mark Twain
that's as true as it ever was, even more so today.
@@toucan221 What concerns me, is the almost total reliance we have, on digital information, via Satellite , etc. As we get rid of our recorded knowledge, via Books , CD's ,DVDs etc etc What if, in the not too distant future, Satellite's are turned off? No road maps, no Sat-Navs . You cannot enter 'Zones, Districts, Stores, even your own place of work. even your own home, without the right 'Pass-Word. Watch the BBC DVD (while you can) of ''The Last Enemy''. Staring Benedict Cumberbatch. Set in the not too distant future, A world reliant, as related above, scary stuff. We are slowly drifting towards it.
@@MrDaiseymay this is why it is still good to buy real books, or go to the library. the nurse came to see my mother 4 days ago, and I could hear the despatcher at the Ambulance station at the other end of the phone say he could not find the nursing home on Google Map, I thought how stupid, how bad is that, people blindly rely on these as though there is no alternative, there is ALWAYS an alternative. Yes you are quite right to worry 1984 is happening in China Right Now.
@@toucan221 i have been trying to buy books and dvds as i felt this was happening ,
If you can't beat someone.
Replace them.
You missed a few steps, but yeah.
Mary Seacole got pushed down our throats at university...literally...and Florence was completely disrespected...shame on them.
Thank you Sir for sticking up for our Florence...⚜️🥀🙏
It's got nothing to do with 'sticking up for our Florence'. It has to do with historical facts. A good historian does not have a personal agenda to fulfil.
There ought to be a Nurse organization titled "The Florence Nightingale Foundation".
Now some ""left wing "paper is trying to hint that Florence Nightingale might be a lesbian . It never stops ,does it .
I wonder if Lucy worsley will do mary Seacole on her BBC series "History's greatest fibs" ?
Not a chance.
No chance
Not a chance the BBC’s leftest agenda would not allow it
Maybe when the bbc replace Lucy like Florence was she'll do a YT upload on it, then get a strike of YT for hate facts
More chance of a night with Jim Davidson on the BBC!
"As you can see, instead of a famous nurse, they decided to put a statue of a black restaurant proprietor outside their hospital" 😄
@mo's Ahamhead only the the old school jingoists.
She wasn't feeding an army.She was feeding overfed high ranking officers and onlookers to battle. She should be torn down and re-erected in a military museum perhaps.
@Thao Brewster Lol, good point food would aid a soldiers recovery, so yes they would be lucky eating jerk chicken, rice and peas.😋
@Martin Martin There was no hospital according to documentary.
food forthought1 - Can we have your sources please.
I first heard of her many years ago on the BBC's Blue Peter. Start the myth with the young and impressionable.
Keep revealing and unearthing the truth!! Thank you!! The truth no matter how bad it is it is always better than a lie!!🌞🌞🐝🐝🦋🦋☘️🍀🌺
Someone whose name escapes me once said that the masses are liable to fall for a great lie rather than a small one .The small one is easily seen through whilst the great lie cannot be seen through at all.
A Black Florence Nightingale? What next, White Shaka Zulus!
"White Shaka Zulus!" - you're new to this aren't you? It only ever goes one way
I hope not. He was an imperialist dictator and mass murderer of other tribal peoples and we can't have that!
Johnny Clegg is known as the white Zulu. Do a search for Scatterlings of Africa by Johnny Clegg and Savuca. Great song and video.
If you can have a black Anne boleyn why not.
I have truely learnt something here , I had no idea who and why this was done . I knew who Florence Nightingale was and what she had done . I knew nothing about this it saddens me , but I appreciate the truth . Thank you
According to an article in UK ' Daily Mail newspaper, Florence Nightingale developed her nursing skills while tending wounded soldiers during World War ONE ( 1914-1918 ). How she accomplished this feat was not explained , as she died in 1910.
Truly an amazing woman and nurse.
Fancy Florence's ghost helping in the 1st world War?
Still Florence did good work during the Crimean war
1853 to 1856.
The Daily Mail are bad historians.
LOL 😂
I love your calm, collected, methodical, truthful and unbiased work that you do. I very much look forward to each and every one of your posts. Best channel on UA-cam!
You are very kind!
History Debunked Credit where it’s due sir.
ptah-rek fear-none Always start a new sentence with a capital letter!
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb I agree 100% and it’s great to learn history from you
I understand the Seacole statue near the Nightingale statue is considerably larger, I can’t think why?
What's your point?
Go back to square one.
From the account given here, Mary Seacole's real life was interesting enough without having to make up lies about it.
It's so fascinating that the commentator keep, under the fact that she was BLACK and was Jamaican. But no mention that she was biracial and her father was a British officer or during the 1800's Colonials Brit's. British citizens non the less
But in true British form you are only regarded as a loyalist. If are middle class and White.
@@everettgrant9227 Bigot.
@@everettgrant9227 welcome to leave anytime you want mate!
@@stevesproul1627 leave where, do actually think I live in the U.K . Spending time there as a gateway to Europe is enough xenophobia I can take. Very happy living and owning a former plantation in the Caribbean, which by the way was my white side of family ancestral home. Loving my black previlage pass on by my white side of family. Pay back a bitch which keeps on giving. Cheers mate. P.S sold off 7 acres last year being paid Block. Lol
@@charlieb6001 Just trying my best to be like a WASP. I my high yellow black ass got it right or should I say got it White. Lol. Cheers mate keep trucking though
I had a quick look at videos about MS on youtube after I watched this one. I notice all their comments are turned off. I wonder why?
hahahahahaa
Maybe the on button has broken
Perhaps to keep away the dross here from spewiong their racist crap.
@@davidjessop2279 What are you doing here David?
@@davidjessop2279 No doubts she was a redoubtable woman and deserves to be recorded in history but it does appear to have been somewhat distorted,
Very interesting. I always had reservations about the story and how true it was.I trained as a Nurse in the 80’s , never heard the Seacole name until I kept hearing about it in the late 90’s, with endless programmes and promotion, mainly on R4.It seemed this person came out of nowhere but they wanted to make up for lost time. If she was a Crimean War Nurse then what difference would her colour make? Would it make her a better or more worthy person? It turns out that she was never a Nurse at all and probably never set foot in a Hospital. It sounds like she had an interesting life but they wanted to create a myth to promote the Multicultural Agenda. How embarrassing that they would put a statue of an hotelier outside St Thomas Hospital, where the world’s first Training School for Nurses was set up, by none other than Florence Nightingale! They must’ve had a good laugh at the irony. How easy it seems to rewrite history, everyone falling over themselves to promote this neglected, major historical figure who, it appears, was an invention.
British Army had black musicians for 100 years esp in cavalry regiments..
turns out 1000% bull shit its not hard to figure out.
No, she hasn’t been ripped out of history. We had a talk all about her at Mothers union and I can tell you she still has family around and we had a lot of personal things spoken about her. She is still more famous than that other woman.
Thanks God there are people like you Sir who exposes left lunatics
I’m glad I found you - Looking forward to many more!
I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb have you done a video on yt about king james 1/vl being blk , i know the geneology history a bit but not sure about this
I'm reading a book about how Louis Armstrong, and Mohammad went to the moon in 1478.
Thank you......your work is very much appreciated!!
I'm pleased to hear that. Thank you.
As she was 3/4 "white" (Scots father, Creole mother) why do we call her "black"? Is it not "racist" to presume that any black blood in our veins supercedes any other?
I wish the Australians would have thought the same way and the rest of the white world
@Anakin Skywalker You sure she's not being compensated for being a ginger?
For some reason, many people POC ignore the white side of their family, like lewis hamiliton. megan merkle . It would be upsetting for them to be reminded they had white family too.
hmmm 🤔
So you are not familiar with the ‘One drop rule’ then I take it ?
and who brought it into being and for what purpose ?
Scandalous really ...
one should know thy self, surely , before one .. makes conclusions about others ?
Maybe ?
Yes the ‘one drop rule’ brought about by fearful racist sadistic apartheid imposters barking up the wrong tree yet again here in 2020 ..
weak.
@@ParameterSurfer Nevertheless, it is racist to assume that 'black' ancestry supersedes others. Or are you declaring me a "sadistic apartheid imposter"?
Horrible histories lied to a young me about this too 😂
And were caught out doing it!
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11130475/CBBC-sketch-inaccurately-painted-Florence-Nightingale-as-racist-BBC-Trust-finds.html
They, the BBC, lied about Roman Britain, too, claiming the "typical" family was black.
@@alanwilliams3677 Their lies are so plainly idiotic that I wonder how people believe them in the first place, but surprisingly enough, far too many still do and it's abou time these criminals were held responsible for their lying and robbing entire nations of their identities.
Plus their blatantly racist episode about brexit where they claimed " everything British is stolen" and worse.
@@evazigon5288 History was not debunked. This video was just a monologue denigrating a historical character, no attempt was made to provide any historical sources to authenticate the negative claims he made about Mary Seacole.
Seacole's actual life sounds really interesting. The true racism to me seems to cut all of that out in favour of her being cast as a black Florence Nightingale for no reason. Her business ventures of being a prospector, restaurateur and author, kind of does great damage to the downtrodden woman of colour narrative, doesn't it?
theres a few sites that get posted on fb that show many blk and blk females of wealth and position in usa in late 1800 early 1900 but all ive heard from some is that there were none or very few so yes it does go against the narrative that blk were kept down , this i read in comments about the book to kill a mocking bird where a whyte lawyer had to defend a blk man yet there were about 1256 blk lawyers in usa at that time
I love your work, "THANK YOU". Please can we have more?
I'm glad you enjoy them. Have no fear; plenty more coming!
Florence Nightingale also invented the pi chart to convince the army of the need for organised treatment of the wounded
She invented a particular type of pie chart. It was her activities AFTER her stint in the Crimea that really made her name. She persuaded the government that field hospitals were a bad idea because they were causing more deaths than the actual wounds. Her detractors today say how unhygienic her hospital was - they didn't know about germs back then - but in fact she made her name precisely by pointing this fact out to the authorities, and by golly she got them to listen!
@@fredneecher1746 the pie chart showed the amount of soldiers dying of wounds in Hospital was greater than those in battle in a way they could accept from a woman in those times that was the purpose of the chart
Plus the fact that she was half-caste so, actually, half-black.
But, like Barack Obama, Tiger Woods and Lewis Bloody Hamilton, she has been "upgraded" to black.
This is the first of your videos that l've seen and am favourably impressed. Subbed! 😊
Upgraded by whom ? who is writhing this history and putting it out there ?
@Tony Marlowe You missed out the word "many".
The correct term is "mixed race". I am sure you will know that.
@@portcullis5622 It's not the "correct" term; it's one of the terms...
@@christophernewman5027 Outdated and offensive. A bit like saying "Red Indian", "Abo" or "eskimo".
The role of an order of Roman Catholic Nuns, "The Sisters of Charity", in the Crimea has been almost entirely forgotten. They did play a very real part in actually caring for troops.
Russians setup something similar on their side.
If Florrie N. is considered too white, middle class & religious a bunch of RC Nuns have absolutely NO chance in the modern 'woke' era.
Spies
@@edcarson3113 spying for who?
"If there were no black people, you would have to invent them" - Johnny Speight.
I cannot see UA-cam tolerating content like this for much longer, they’ll be a price to pay for your honesty.
Thank you for putting the record straight. I remember watching a documentary many years ago about Mary Seacole and I was alot younger and naive at the time and believed what is said as it portrayed her life as the selfless dedicated nurse even lying saying that she went onto the front lines and picked up injured dying men and took them back to her "hospital" to treat them. It denigrated the work of Florence Nightingale in the documentary saying that due to racism Mary Seacole had been forgotten about. This documentary was shown on one of the British main TV channels so was obviously a lefty liberal unrealistic version that is sticking to the multi cultural marxist agenda.
For God sake, it was also in the sholdures own diaries and the letters that they rote back home telling about her...
@@blesroy1090 have you got sources to show evidence of these diaries, journals?
She picked up dying men alright 2 empty their pockets.well so ive read .
but seeing what africans r west africans do with knives and dem not even being doctors r vets i can belive it
This Chanel is gold ngl
I look forward to learning something new from you daily!
Keep up the great work!! Have a lovely day Sir!
Thank you. You too!
Simon is very knowledgable.. and knows what he is talking about...who ever dont agree with what he is saying.. then dont watch his channel ..
Kookie 97
YES! I totally agree!
It's a shame some people just want to argue instead of learning the real truth. Just like our current situation of tearing down monuments. Sad.
Why not have an open discussion, rather than telling people they shouldn't make points or ask questions.
@@nolinbolin5064 have you read the negative comments.. people dont want a open discussion they just want to be rude. And nasty..
I actually haven't. It's unfortunate if that's the case.
So glad I discovered your channel, knowledge is never a burden to carry.
the three black ladies in the modern film were NOT the mathmeticians who saved NASA's moonshot. beethoven was not african. and britain was not built by bus conductors and dinner ladies from windrush
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Nurses,doctors,midwives.Are working people in general nothing to you?
@@michaelhall2138 of course, they are someone doing a job. thats it. i think what we are talking about is fake history fake narrative. do you have a point in relation to the OP?
Trajans Method
Mary Secole was celebrated in her day by soldiers and the general public.This has been long forgotten.Secole was no Florence Nightingale as regards the creation of modern nursing and her use of statistics.She deserves to be remembered nevertheless.I am well aware that I stand to be lumped with the politically correct crazies but I'm far from it.
@@michaelhall2138 evidence of the public celebration?
She was already a role model. She was an accomplished business owner and entrepreneur. People need to stop trying to fix what’s not broken.
That is true. But she was not a nurse. People are lying.
Brilliant channel. Ty
Thank you.
Thank you. I always believed MS was more of a career than a nurse.
I never believed she was held back because of the huge charity function they held for her.
Britain couldn’t have been that racist or supremacist if so many people helped her.
Subbed 👍🏻
There was no one else to help them on the battlefeild, nursing was not formalised in Britain yet at that time.
@velveteyes79 Just about who died without a penny to her name.
They only fundraised for her after she supported the troops and the former soldiers sung her praises in the news paper. She also wasn't even Black. Her mother was mixed and her Dad was Wyte. So she only had a drop of Black in her and she was still not well received by many Brits. So the UK was and still is very racist and Wyte Supremacist.
@Andy XxX
I spell Whyte that way so YT doesn't delete my comment. They are really hard on censorship on this site. But once again I see you couldn't pass up a chance to be a racist dickhead.
@@levelup9547 so what do you make of in dia where ligh ter are more wanted than da rker , in humour a comedian there said his parents howls when he was born da rk made some hospital staff think the mother gave birth to a girl , there are a lot of sexist people in countries , another word for sexist is male supremacy ,
I have recently discovered your videos. I love your corrections of history.
We had a similar thing happen to us in Canada in 2018. There was apparently a woman named "Viola Desmond" who no one had ever heard of before. Suddenly she was being thrust in our faces in newspapers, magazines, radio and television. Apparently her claim to fame is that one time in 1946 she wanted to sit in the main floor section of a movie theater, but she had purchased a balcony ticket. As a result of this mix-up she was tossed from the theater. (No exaggeration, go read the actual story on Wikipedia). Well this has all been amplified and exaggerated and now somehow she's become Canada's version of Rosa Parks. She's even replaced the founding forefather of Canada on the $10 bill. We're clearly living in some sort of clown world.
This re-writing of history is just laughable!
Dangerous.
Yes I agree. More a case of it would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous.
Who is doing the writing ?
No laughing matter
The BBC are eagerly contributing to the rewriting, here’s a few examples m.ua-cam.com/video/fSBx0pqTSL0/v-deo.html
The autobiography of Mary Seacole is well worth reading.
"Can you remove a musket ball and dress a wound?" .... "No, but I have a lot of Melanin..." "You're hired!"
fuck you
@@samalo2953 That's such a logical counterargument.
@@fredpagniello3267 it is, isn't it. Was going to go into a well thought essay, then I remembered your comment.
Totally don't agree with you that she was made as a rival to Florence nightingale!!!!!
That's your personal believe.
What negative attitude has ever been shown towards her in Britain????
I've watched a few of your videos now and see your narrative clearly !!!
You are a true white supremacist, spending your final days doing everything you can to discredit any positive history on the black race !!!
I would not have noticed if it were just a couple of videos mixed in with other parts of history, but you go all in week after week.
Here one for you, why don't you do a video on how the world was lied to about what happened to dozens of serving as officers after the 2nd world war !!!
That's a truth people may want to know !
How the hell are you making out Florence Nightingale is no longer loved because of the idea of Mary ???? Show me one scrap of evidence to prove there has ever been any form of dislike or rejection for Florence Nightingale in this country !!!!!!!
You are the problem trying to create issues where there isn't!!!!!
@@lawrencethomas701 you do know he is reading history books it's not his opinion ,and in the light of present day when race hate against white people due to fake slave history it must be said,or is the truth not important anymore.
She wasn't really black either, being of mixed race.
And she considered herself British - after her dad - not " a person of colour"Her own opinion, not mine.
are you sure she had a restauarant, i was told she was a waitress in the officers mess
Many years ago I remember watching a documentary on Mary Seacole. It may have been in the "Horizon" or "Time Watch" series. The documentary described Mary going out onto the battlefields and attending to wounded soldiers as well as her taking wounded soldiers back to her "station" (it definitely wasn't described as a "hotel") so that she could treat, and care for, injured troops. I seem to remember Florence Nightingale being denigrated due to the unhygienic and generally poor living conditions within the allied hospital or hospitals. Am I remembering correctly and was any of it true?
Great Video, it prompted me to check the main internet source for information on Mary Seacole, the Wikipedia entry, to see the amount of spin involved in the story. It’s clear that she was primarily a victualler and shopkeeper, spending time in her mother’s a boarding house, likely dispensing spirits such as rum as well as other items for serviceman at that time. Her father was an officer in the British Army and she helped attend convalescing visitors from the Army hospital in Jamaica before she was 16. Interestingly, there is no mention of the herbs used but Senna, Coconut Oil and Aloe Vera are common herbs in use at that time.
Florence Nightingale did not want her nursing staff visiting Seacole’s hotel in Balaclava. Nightingale says Mrs Seacole was associated with much drunkenness and improper conduct and questioned her purpose in the Crimea. To be honest, it looks like she wanted a free passage out there for the purpose of opening a hotel rather than having an interest in nursing. Treating wounded servicemen is a different job to tending cholera patients with herbs, which was her only experience.
Puzzlingly, Seacole says she knew people of the 97th and 48th Regiments serving in the Crimea from her life in Jamaica, yet the Regimental history of the 97th shows no service in the West Indies and 48th Regiment service record in the West Indies ceased in 1796, long before she was born.
Wikipedia also has multiple references to her storytelling, from wearing Crimea medals she wasn’t entitled to, to making up stories about being related to famous people.
Typical. Even their heroes are full of shit.
Officers did transfer between regiments so it’s possible the officers had served with other units.
I love listening to you cats. I'm 47 and live in Wisconsin. Never heard of Mary but Florence Nightingale, she was amazing! History is important to me and should be to everyone. It should be taught as it happened, without sugarcoating, in all detail so it can be learned from and progress can be made. Leaving things out I always thought was the most abhorrent thing now I know that was just the start. I may have drove my kids nuts but I was always tossing out facts and getting upset because they hadn't learned something in school. They learned alot at home and just between the 1st and the last of 3 that went, that covers about 6 yrs, the school went down hill.🤦♀️
My 1st grandchild started preschool this year. I'm concerned about how much worse it's gotten.
The race thing finds it's way in heavily here too as I have a Mexican daughter who married a Dominican and my other girl married a black man. Both amazing people but when the uncivil unrest began here under Obama which has blown up this year with increasing demand for segregation it really pisses me off. I'm starting to think about starting a group for pissed off Grandma's everywhere. Free Wooden spoon with membership. 🤣
You are amazing. Keep making these videos please.
Indeed I shall!
History Debunked
Thank you :)
Thanks for the Video's Simon, Nice to have a different perspective of our History , your Research must take forever , Chris
Fascinating! This is a real eye opener.
Thank you, thank you , not just for the truth but of the back story to why they tried to change the truth. I especially like your posts on slavery. Being brought up in the 🇺🇸 public school system the truth is barely touched upon in detail. Thank you also for just reporting the facts. Sounds like you had some military experience.
You, sir, are amazing. Keep up the truth telling!
Shocking, I got sucked into this myth about 30 years ago when a publisher used one of the illustrators at the artist agency I helped run, for a children's book on Mary Seacole. I also remember after that seeing something on TV making Florence Nightingale sound like she was like some sort of bad tempered monster, and Mary Seacole being liked by the patients a lot more.
Thank you for saying this; what you're doing is very rare today. I found that video very moving.
Thank you great stuff.
My son came home from school today and told me the story of Mary Seacole. I'm going to show him this video. History must not be rewritten.
Honestly , I’ve never heard of Mary . Guess she’s not big in theUS. Maybe I just missed her . But, I have read a lot about Florence
Perhaps we should all rally together and pull the statue down! What’s good for the goose!
I’ve just come back to this video Simon because I’m looking through my grandson’s school books from the last terms work. He is 7 years old and there is a page devoted to local heroes…this is in Chelsea where he lives, and Mary Seacole is mentioned, that she nursed and saved soldiers from a bad illness. I’m just checking on your website. Florence nightingale isn’t mentioned at all. Then Bob Marley is mentioned… I can’t for the life of me think why! I know Bob Marley sang many folk songs but was he actually a local hero? I’m still searching, but if he was, it’s the first I’ve heard of it .
Great stuff I learn so much from these video’s and I’m 67 years old
Brilliant information.
Lovin your videos and content 👏
I'm sharing a lot of your videos on Facebook so that people - at least those that are still following me - can see the truth about our history - thank you.
Who allowed this distortion of facts?
Well posted Sir!!!!
Thank you for a very informative and interesting video
never knew it was all made up!
it was presented to me as a great injustice.
I like your wording so correct nothing is being done about it 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
I love your videos! As someone else noted, I see, this really shows the depth of the propaganda. Based on her real life story Mary traveled the world looking for investors for an enterprise, and running a restaurant. She is actually a decent role model all her own, had she not been twisted into a replacement role to cancel out Florence. Typical of all modern racial rewrites, they can't just let her be who she was, she had to fit their mold.
True, u got an enterprising black women from British Jamaica trying to prospect gold, traveling, going to crimea, starting a business there and being nice to soldiery, a true British patriot
Why they have to denigrate Florence tho is beyond me
There's no comparison
Florence was
- a trained nurse, who actually stepped inside a hospital
- advanced the medical field and popularized nursing internationally
- actually saved lives
- was a wartime hero
- devoted her life to the care of the sick
- was a pious and honorable lady all her life
- founded the first nursing school
Whereas Mary seacole
- wasnt a trained nurse, she was a doctress basically a witch doctor from the carribean, nothing scientific or medical about her
- never stepped foot inside a hospital
- never advanced nursing as a profession
- didn't save lives
She basically showed up in crimea, a " doctress" with no formal training or experience, her background being that of a failed gold mine owner with limited understanding of vodoo medicine, no experience as a nurse, sets up a business to make money, selling lemonade n cakes to soldiers, after the battle was done, far from the front lines
There's no comparison
Nauseating stuff about the Windrush, and that wretched smug newsreel. If anyone researched the history of each of those migrants, their careers and what taxes they paid, what would they find? ...and even if each one had contributed (unlikely), they each did it for their own benefit, not altruism.
And the cost of keeping their kids and Grandkids in prison.
Such a shame that your UA-cam stuff isn’t shown in schools. Excellent observations. Thank you.
Thanks once more. You give us more determination to look at these modern 'historians' trying to erase our British cultural history with the utter contempt they deserve.
Good Morning, Simon!
Good morning to you, Ms River Song!
I'd never heard of Mary Seacole until about 5 or so years ago!
Well said Simon, well said (and true)!
Brilliant stuff 👏👏👏🇬🇧
Thank you!
Still an amazing story that a black woman did that in those days! They built an estate on an old hospital site near me , one the roads is Seacole Ave or something
Not so amazing. Black people are just as enterprising as anyone else.
@@fredneecher1746 exactly , but there must have been the odd barrier !
@@yesihavereadit must have been lol if u have no idea that there was racism just imagine it then hey lol You have the same attitude as the stop and search haters in London mate, well done
She wasn't really Black.
A quarter creole having been born Jamaica of a Scottish father.
Mary Seacole's USP in her lifetime wasn't that she was a black Jamaican. It was what she did for the troops as a cantiniere that distinguished her at the time.
It would have been great if you were my grandpa.
That's nice of you to say!
just been reading about florence nightingale, and what an absolutely amazing woman she was
I remember that Mary was voted as number 1 in the black scientific Britons poll.
If I was the sort to go around pulling down statues, guess whose statue I would pull down? It's a good job I am civilised.
And the Queen said in her Christmas Day speech "What an inspiration Mary Seacole was to nursing. 🤭
this is so interesting thanks 🙏 i had not realised the real story
The first black NAFFI manager ..
Crimean War was an attack on the Czars by the Rothschild criminal banking cabal. The Czars had interrupted the US civil war which was created by Rothschilds to divvy - up the US. Czars (actually Catherine the Great) had prohibited Central Banking shenanigans, which has run Britain since 1694AD and France since the "French" Revolution against France. The third reason, was the Czars were creating an alliance between Catholic monarchs in Austria, Bavaria and Italy. They were trying to resolve the Catholic Schism of 1035AD and to con-join Orthodoxies of the East, with the Bishop of Rome (papal) States in the west. This could have meant the end of usury. At least the Khabbalist decadence and "degeneracy" Europe presently experiences would have been set back for some time. As a result, the Crimean War laid the foundation for WW1 and WW2 and 6 Czars were assassinated by guess who.
The MultiCult has a few things to answer for.
Your posts are brilliant👍👍 could you do one on Henry dundas 🙏🙏
Just obtained her book. I'll post again when I've read it.
Seems like history is being rewritten in order to rewrite our knowledge! Great video!
I have a friend who worked as a nurse in the hospital on the IV team, In the ER and on the floor. This is a travesty and a dishonor to her and all other dedicated nurses !!!!
Very sad, I'm sure there are more than enough real black nurses who could have served as a role model maybe just not from the Crimea war.
She was in fact a inn keeper, the nursing I believe came about more from the motherly way she treated the troops on leave from the front line who would rest up in the homely atmosphere of her inn. When the war ended suddenly she lost everything and was penny less, yet so loved by the troops they started a appeal to rise money for her on her return to the UK yet she died in poverty. She is of course being used here for political reasons but let's separate the person who was essentially good
Thank you she did no harm, she made life comfortable for some.
Gems of wisdom 💎
David Starkey the historian referred to the establishment she set up near Balaklava as a Hotel in a recent interview on GB News.