That's done completely wrong. The line will fall off immediately. The line goes around the shaft and then around the thorn. Ray Mears does it correctly.
Thank you for your wrong opinion. Not only do we have extensive archaeological records of it, we have video of it being used. And as stated in the video, this method was still in use into the 20th century
@thewildmanoutdoors It was configured wrong though. The first pass has to tighten around the shaft as the second pass has to tighten around the thorn, kind of like a snell. You just did a double pass on the thorn itself, it will fall off
it possible back in the really old days they would use a little piece of bone or somthing that could just wedge it self in the fish mouth and bam dinner
@@thewildmanoutdoors you may as well do a second short of full video ...could do a sarcastic or click bait title of: "exposed as fake" or "debunk" where you show the contrast and that even though "it might appear incorrect" that it works...
When i run out of fawns, i just call it a day. On a serious note. When i was a kid , i was fishing a stream in NY . It was an extreme warm up in early spring. I must have caught over 20 pike on creek chubs.( not European chubs ) . I ran out of hooks. And made a hook out of a hawthorn, and caught 1 last pike. But i didnt rig it backwards like this guy did. Cheers from the states. Happy Christmas
This type of hook works as a toggle bar rather than a hook to set in the lip. Interesting story though, I doubt these were ever used to catch anything that large
What are you on about ? We used steel hooks since the Vikings landed , if it wasn’t steel then it’s a toggle bar that wedges in the mouth. Yeah I just looked at ray mears video and it’s a toggle bar which is nothing like what you made . Maybe you should watch the video again
Ignore the boomers and the internet "experts." You only got it slightly incorrect. But doing so, you made people research the correct way of doing it. So, in fact, you got more people interested in it as you would if you had done it correctly
@markwingfield3677 aboriginal means first or earliest inhabitants, so every country had aboriginals. Though on the British Isles almost all of their culture is extinct. Some small parts still exist through the Welsh language but pretty much entirely gone
Will do, I'll make a follow up as soon as possible. If you want to check it out in the meantime though ray mears demonstrates this technique in a program he did called aboriginal britain, even catches a fish with it. The episode is up on youtube
@@thewildmanoutdoors No, aboriginal means original inhabitants of a land before outside influence or colonisation. Britain is historically made up of various groups that migrated to the islands over thousands of years. Celts, Romans, Saxons, Norse, and Norman's etc. Britain has no aboriginal population, lol
@@thewildmanoutdoors No, the term aboriginal specifically refers to the original, Indigenous peoples of a land. The term you're looking for and is used academically is either Celtic Briton, Pre-Roman Briton or Anglo-Saxon. Again, there's no such thing as an Aboriginal Britain, lol
@squibe_9610 yes, and whoever was first is the original, indigenous people of the land. Nope, there were people in Briton will before the celts and Anglo saxons. Again, every single country on earth had aboriginals by definition
@@carlmoore9198 well when you look at the words before the “has ever went fishing” it makes more sense. “Don’t think this guy has ever went fishing” meaning he doesn’t think the person who made this video has EVER gone fishing. What’s so hard to understand?
I prefer using large blackberry thawns .. fi d a large one with big foog . Press it into the centrr of a boot lace . Foot knside pointy bit outsside. .
Extinct culturally now unfortunately. What we know of them comes from archeology and Roman records during their invasion. The celts were the most well known aboriginal British tribe. Aboriginal just means first or earliest peoples
I’ve never tried this and i can tell he hasn’t either. Its hard enough to land a fish with a proper engineered hook, this is illogical especially the way he tied it
We have records of it working and modern recreations of it working on video. Unfortunately I haven't had time to actually take it fishing yet but I'll try in the new year
Unbelievable! People actually fished successfully using a tree thorn for a hook (bait optional?) And I have trouble catching a fish with a couple hundred dollars worth of modern equipment!
@ physically will just slide out of their mouth, reason why fishing hooks have been designed the way they are for centuries based off using a thorn carved wood bone etc. it won’t lever action anything it won’t spin around and grab anything it’s like tying a hook on backwards completely, and maybe it worked a time or two before all the other brain cells kicked in but a broken clock works 2x everyday too
Aboriginal is just another word for indigenous or native, for whatever reason it caught on for Australian indigenous people and isn’t popular for anyone else. Doesn’t really make much sense here though since “aboriginal Britons” are usually just called Welsh.
The hook doesn't "hook" anything. When the fish swallows the hook part acts like a lever and pushes the long end of the hook either up or down, essentially lodging it sideways in the throat. Imagine swallowing a toothpick straight, but then it getting twisted sideways in your throat. Works on the same principle as toggle hooks used by native americans.
@TheTravellingAngler yes, all countries have aboriginals. The term means first people or earliest inhabitants. The aboriginal Britons were a celtic culture, though most of their culture is extinct now unfortunately. Though Welsh still carries on some of their linguistics
@GreenFurnNW unfortunately I only had about 20 minutes to film and i have a baby strapped to my chest while filming this, you can hear her kicking off in the second clip. If I get a chance I'll try and film it in the new year but between work, new born baby and moving house, not getting much filming time at the moment. If you want to see this technique being used though, ray mears shows it in his program aboriginal britain. Search ray mears hawthorn fishing on youtube
That's done completely wrong. The line will fall off immediately. The line goes around the shaft and then around the thorn. Ray Mears does it correctly.
He tried to sell us
the Hook without the Line and sinker.
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yeh but 2 b fair Ray would embarrass Rambo 😎
I was thinking about it? When I saw your comment!! Thanks !!
Ray got fat eating bark and worms@@YoanBespoke
I unhooked my like 👍 lol
I have never seen such nonsense.. like halfway with the idea but you ain't landing fish with that 😂
Thank you for your wrong opinion. Not only do we have extensive archaeological records of it, we have video of it being used. And as stated in the video, this method was still in use into the 20th century
@thewildmanoutdoors
It was configured wrong though. The first pass has to tighten around the shaft as the second pass has to tighten around the thorn, kind of like a snell. You just did a double pass on the thorn itself, it will fall off
BS
it possible back in the really old days they would use a little piece of bone or somthing that could just wedge it self in the fish mouth and bam dinner
@@thewildmanoutdoors you may as well do a second short of full video ...could do a sarcastic or click bait title of: "exposed as fake" or "debunk" where you show the contrast and that even though "it might appear incorrect" that it works...
When i run out of fawns, i just call it a day. On a serious note. When i was a kid , i was fishing a stream in NY . It was an extreme warm up in early spring. I must have caught over 20 pike on creek chubs.( not European chubs ) . I ran out of hooks. And made a hook out of a hawthorn, and caught 1 last pike. But i didnt rig it backwards like this guy did. Cheers from the states. Happy Christmas
This type of hook works as a toggle bar rather than a hook to set in the lip. Interesting story though, I doubt these were ever used to catch anything that large
Catch a fish and prove me wrong but this wont work 😂😂😂
Best fishing hook??? The guy has obviously never used a circle hook...
Aboriginal Britons. That means early Britons, not modern Britons. Clearly you don't know the difference.
I don’t believe it without seeing a fish caught
Ray mears has a video where he catches a fish with it if you look that up
@ did you try and catch a fish on it?
@@S33D3D He's right Ray Mears did it, but he failed to mention Ray tied it correctly. This video is not how you tie it
Okay catch fish let's see
There is video of it on youtube
@@thewildmanoutdoorsthere might be but we want to see you do it.
What do you think our ancestors did to catch 🪝 fish?? Ancient technology!!😅
Someone's been watching old ray mears episodes. Awesome hook but completely illegal to use in the uk ❤
Best bushcraft show ever made. Pretty much everything is illegal here these days 😂
You wouldn't catch a cold with that 😂😂😂
What are you on about ? We used steel hooks since the Vikings landed , if it wasn’t steel then it’s a toggle bar that wedges in the mouth. Yeah I just looked at ray mears video and it’s a toggle bar which is nothing like what you made . Maybe you should watch the video again
And then he woke up. And realised it was all a dream. Thankfully
Nowhere on this planet dose a caucasoid call himself aboriginal because he himself knowns he’s a Johnny come lately.
I didn't call myself an aboriginal....
The few Aborigines left in Australia and the First Nations people of North America were the original, and true masters of hunter gatherers.
You know white people are aboriginal to Europe? 😂😂🤡
@@Zenwarrior851 nope. they got conquered. sucks when u can't make it past the stone age right?
Clearly you don't know what aboriginal actually means.
Ignore the boomers and the internet "experts." You only got it slightly incorrect. But doing so, you made people research the correct way of doing it. So, in fact, you got more people interested in it as you would if you had done it correctly
Aboriginal Britain’s?
@markwingfield3677 aboriginal means first or earliest inhabitants, so every country had aboriginals. Though on the British Isles almost all of their culture is extinct. Some small parts still exist through the Welsh language but pretty much entirely gone
@@thewildmanoutdoorsThat's not true, Britain at no point had a aboriginal people group living on any of the islands
@RunnStoic that doesn't make sense, britain must have had a fiest people otherwise there would be no people here.
Will u show how u put the bait on I assume it's just through the thorn but maybe I'm wrong
Will do, I'll make a follow up as soon as possible. If you want to check it out in the meantime though ray mears demonstrates this technique in a program he did called aboriginal britain, even catches a fish with it. The episode is up on youtube
Will you catch a fish with it to show us how it's done?
Have you tried using hawthorn for hooks? It’s better to create a gorge hook
i hope he brought a case of beer and some smoke-smoke because he's gonna be there for a little while, heh lol
Show it working
I will at some point, in the mean time ray mears has a video of it being used
I thought a fawn was a dear, 😂
😂
Aboriginal just means native to the land it isnt refrencing any actual specific people or culture
Did you just say Aboriginal Britains? lmao, all credibility out the window bud
@@squibe_9610 literally every country has aboriginals. It means first or earliest inhabitants.
@@thewildmanoutdoors No, aboriginal means original inhabitants of a land before outside influence or colonisation. Britain is historically made up of various groups that migrated to the islands over thousands of years. Celts, Romans, Saxons, Norse, and Norman's etc. Britain has no aboriginal population, lol
@squibe_9610 yes, but one of them had to be first, making them the originals.....
@@thewildmanoutdoors No, the term aboriginal specifically refers to the original, Indigenous peoples of a land. The term you're looking for and is used academically is either Celtic Briton, Pre-Roman Briton or Anglo-Saxon. Again, there's no such thing as an Aboriginal Britain, lol
@squibe_9610 yes, and whoever was first is the original, indigenous people of the land. Nope, there were people in Briton will before the celts and Anglo saxons. Again, every single country on earth had aboriginals by definition
I don't think this guy has ever went fishing. A bass will sling a double treble hook out of its mouth.
Plenty of other types of fish. This was primarily used for flounder and trout
Wtf does ‘has ever went fishing’ mean?
@@carlmoore9198 I try not to judge my literacy challenged friends from across the pond
@@carlmoore9198 well when you look at the words before the “has ever went fishing” it makes more sense. “Don’t think this guy has ever went fishing” meaning he doesn’t think the person who made this video has EVER gone fishing. What’s so hard to understand?
@@thewildmanoutdoors it’s basic fuckin English my guy 😂
It's wood.....so it will float🤔
I prefer using large blackberry thawns .. fi d a large one with big foog . Press it into the centrr of a boot lace . Foot knside pointy bit outsside. .
Bigup all my British aboriginal brothers and sisters ✌️
Extinct culturally now unfortunately. What we know of them comes from archeology and Roman records during their invasion. The celts were the most well known aboriginal British tribe. Aboriginal just means first or earliest peoples
Aboriginal?
Same meaning as indigenous, native, indian, etc prior @@Quantumdingle-1
@@Quantumdingle-1inhabiting or existing on a land since the earliest times or since before colonial times: indigenous.
My lineage is mostly native British however please never call me "aboriginal" it sounds creepy, That's what the word British is for.
Aboriginal Australians were using this as well.
Upside down and line goes on the shank.....or just use a toggle stick. Like a duffel coat button
It's not upside down, it's that way deliberately to act as a lever for the toggle, as I explained in the video
Rays been on the phone asking about copyright. 😂
It won't work
I’ve never tried this and i can tell he hasn’t either. Its hard enough to land a fish with a proper engineered hook, this is illogical especially the way he tied it
These were traditionally used on trot lines, so just held the fish in place rather than trying to pull one onto shore.
@@thewildmanoutdoorsand they were ties around the shaft!!!
the ony thing you're gonna catch is a buzz, my boy😅
Never ever working that 😂😂😂
I still fish that way
Glad to see someone keeping the old skills alive
Hallo, fellow vegan!!
really ...honestly would like to know more....amazing. kind regards ❤
@@royferguson3909He's lying. Kids call it trolling
Boooooooooooooooooooo
As a fisherman, look forward to many hungry days if you think that's going to catch you anything
Yeah that won't work at all. 😅
Everything looks good on paper.
We have records of it working and modern recreations of it working on video. Unfortunately I haven't had time to actually take it fishing yet but I'll try in the new year
Better hope Tesco's Open this apocalypse 😂😂😂😂
Give a man a fish...
but Give a man a fishing rod...
Give me a hawthorn bush!
i will have a'1000 Fishing Rods 🤣😂 My Man 👉🔥
This is straight up wrong 😂
Aboriginal britons (Brythoniaid, Britaniaid, Brutaniaid) became us Welsh🏴. Nice looking hook would it of been weighted or float on surface?
It would traditionally be used on a trot line in tidal rivers
@thewildmanoutdoors ah nice, tidal rivers are teaming with life Great fishing
Why don't you show how it works?
Well, in the Americas, its backwards😅
Native America's have a similar hook but it's upside down fork aswel
If people don't know what they're doing they don't usually make tutorial videos on the subject 🤦🏽
@@LachlanFarah I'm curious, which part do you think is wrong
@thewildmanoutdoors it's not even tied properly you pillick
Nonsense have u ever caught a fish or watched how a hook works in the opposite way🤣🤣🤣 clickbait🤣
@@donaldhutton3617 as I explained I the video, it's a toggle bar
And when you set the hook, you rip it straight out of its mouth and the fish than comes on land and thanks you from saving it and allows you to eat it
P everybody is doubting this works are people called fear somehow without metal hooks
I struggle to see how you would catch a fish with this.
That wouldn’t stay on if the wind blew on it.
Did he say aboriginal Britain’s.. 😂
Grellat demo now lets see it in action. You gave 50 % demo we need to see it being used.
Now show you catching a fish in one continuous shot
Unbelievable! People actually fished successfully using a tree thorn for a hook (bait optional?) And I have trouble catching a fish with a couple hundred dollars worth of modern equipment!
I have the same problem, I honestly think fish just hate some people
Because equipment means nothing if you don't have knowledge.
All the gear but no idea 😂
Are you crazy buy a hook 😊😂
Tell me you don’t how to fish without telling me you don’t know how to fish 😂 it’s tied wrong the thorn will not grab onto anything tied like that
The thorn doesn't grab onto anything, it acts like a lever causing it to toggle, as I explained
@ physically will just slide out of their mouth, reason why fishing hooks have been designed the way they are for centuries based off using a thorn carved wood bone etc. it won’t lever action anything it won’t spin around and grab anything it’s like tying a hook on backwards completely, and maybe it worked a time or two before all the other brain cells kicked in but a broken clock works 2x everyday too
I thought that a locus tree, in America the black locus tree can kill cows. If you get pricked it will cause swelling and inflammation like arthritis.
Nope, it's hawthorn, I'm in England
Bro you need to take the first loop up the shank of the hook. Not just double it round the hook. It will fall off. Learn your craft.
Can use green briar in the US....or lotus tree
"British do it right" a series of words never spoken before
What kind of fish are you fishing that can't open it's mouth?
@@arecane2000 I mean, you can open your mouth, doesn't stop you choking on things.....
@thewildmanoutdoors But you can bite...I don't see the lead?
If the fishes mouth is big enough for the "hook" to go in then I'd imagine it would get spit out quite easily lol
No, you're confusing length with width and height
.....only you will never catch a fish....
Good luck
I don’t see how that’s gonna work
Nice
How many actuallys was that?
Bollocks!
Prove it
Catch one!😂😂😂😂
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@thewildmanoutdoors cool
Should have linked it on the other video
Used to go long lining with my dad in Morecambe bay
Cool 😎
Aboriginal British? I may have to some looking into, I thought aboriginals were only Australian
Aboriginal is just another word for indigenous or native, for whatever reason it caught on for Australian indigenous people and isn’t popular for anyone else.
Doesn’t really make much sense here though since “aboriginal Britons” are usually just called Welsh.
@ ahh right got it! Thank you for the clarity.
I don't see enough room for bait.
Thorn with an f 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
no way that works
There is video of it on youtube
Surely the fish's mouth keeps the hook locked my aboriginal ancestors would love this clip
I’m not trying to be mean but wouldn’t that orientation not hook anything? Go the other way and yea you could definitely hook something.
The hook doesn't "hook" anything. When the fish swallows the hook part acts like a lever and pushes the long end of the hook either up or down, essentially lodging it sideways in the throat. Imagine swallowing a toothpick straight, but then it getting twisted sideways in your throat. Works on the same principle as toggle hooks used by native americans.
How did brits never went extinct due to starvation? , boggles my mind 😵💫 (cartoonish inefficient hook)
@@Tomatotomaydo it actually worked very well.
Yeah, the only fish this is catching, us the bait fish you stick it threw
Win all my matches this way 😅
Give me some tips bro I've barely caught anything with hundreds of pounds of fishing gear
Yeah, for small fish, in Canada we throw those small one back.😂😂
a sturdy forn from a hawforn tree
Since when do trees have forns?
Since the evolution the hawthorn tree
Youre better off using your hand brother
These hooks were traditionally used on trot lines on tidal areas. So you could set up your trot line and then go hand fishing I guess
Let"s see it work Limey. And for he record - the # is "thirty" - not "firty" - as in seconds.
Aww. Triggered wee thing, aren't you?
Don't try and correct my pronunciation, and then make spelling mistakes in your comment......
Now u can go out and show us u catching a fish with it
This total BS. Tied on incorrectly. The angle he has it on will not set in the fishes mouth.
The angle is exactly what causes it to set, if you put it the other way the thorn snaps on anything large
If you cant work out its a joke after the first 2 words he says .. think again.
@felixmorgan1 not only is this not a joke, there are multiple videos of it working on youtube
I’m not swallowing that
And I can’t see too many fish that are likely to either
Some people just got no common sense
What’s a forn? 🤷🏻
Thorn in British innit
Did he say aboriginal Britons? Lost it there am afraid
@TheTravellingAngler yes, all countries have aboriginals. The term means first people or earliest inhabitants. The aboriginal Britons were a celtic culture, though most of their culture is extinct now unfortunately. Though Welsh still carries on some of their linguistics
Dude should of caught a fish with that hook instead of just talking.
@GreenFurnNW unfortunately I only had about 20 minutes to film and i have a baby strapped to my chest while filming this, you can hear her kicking off in the second clip. If I get a chance I'll try and film it in the new year but between work, new born baby and moving house, not getting much filming time at the moment. If you want to see this technique being used though, ray mears shows it in his program aboriginal britain. Search ray mears hawthorn fishing on youtube
No wonder everyone over there almost starved to death!
I want to see you catch a fish with it
I'll see what I can do, not a good time of year for fishing though
Wrong way round son!
An “angle” hence an angler!
Aboriginal Britons... so 🏴🇮🇪🏴 😂
That's not how a hook works.
Correct, it's how a lever toggle works, as explained in the video.....
Give me a korda longshank anyday
Looks like you tied it wrong to me.
Show it working then
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did he say Aboriginal Britains?
@AndyUK-Corrival yes, the origins of the celtic people's