iPhone 7 + Video vs $50,000 RED Weapon Footage

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  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 7 років тому +709

    It just proves that the skills of the makers are more important than what was used,

    • @sopoci1818
      @sopoci1818 7 років тому +3

      what skills?

    • @MelvinGundlach
      @MelvinGundlach 7 років тому +2

      matsta177 Where can I get that lens for 10$?

    • @brackman71
      @brackman71 7 років тому +18

      Ignore Matsta177... it's a paid troll account.

    • @ikram2719
      @ikram2719 6 років тому +3

      Gears does matter

    • @RmX.
      @RmX. 6 років тому

      skills in video editing

  • @edgarin
    @edgarin 7 років тому +44

    the thing is that clients will never hire a man with an iphone on a gimbal stabilizer.

    • @DirectorHMAN
      @DirectorHMAN 7 років тому +7

      Clients dont know shit

    • @edgarin
      @edgarin 7 років тому +2

      H MAN by the way, the color grading is very poor. If you yo want to compare a red camera next to an iphone, try pulling all the colors and you'll see a huge difference

    • @jamiedimon1493
      @jamiedimon1493 7 років тому

      edgarin They probably would if you have a great reputation. I have worked with DPs who make 5 figures on a commercial but we shot with some really inexpensive cameras. We had budget to shoot on 35mm but didn't because it wasn't the right tool. Using cheap equipment is more of a nightmare for your crew, most clients with serious money primarily care about results. They they know they are hiring an experienced DP who can deliver and trust their judgement.

    • @KLK01
      @KLK01 7 років тому

      No fucking shit. Sherlock Holmes.

    • @MengL33
      @MengL33 5 років тому

      @@DirectorHMAN LOL AMEN!

  • @JeremyGallman
    @JeremyGallman 8 років тому +420

    I couldn't believe my eyes at first... the iPhone 7 footage looks too good to be true! Haha

    • @cryogenicheart2019
      @cryogenicheart2019 7 років тому +5

      Jeremy Gallman unless ur video content is going on tv, there's no reason to be using a red for youtube videos

    • @dausdk
      @dausdk 7 років тому +17

      but jon olsson use 50k usd red for daily vlogging, totally overkill -__-

    • @JavaBoy1337
      @JavaBoy1337 7 років тому +9

      Hence the name, Team Overkill :p

    • @kernelpanic2887
      @kernelpanic2887 7 років тому +2

      Jeremy Gallman But nearly each phone over 250$ can do this. No dark scene, no bokeh, no contrast...
      Then the hole on an expensive Stabilisation System and Colour Grading.
      They shoukd have shown the Raw Footage

    • @vasicp
      @vasicp 7 років тому +5

      But why? Exactly when is the final product raw footage? If I'm not mistaken, when you are producing a movie, you go through three phases: preproduction (treatment, script, etc.), production (principal photography, ADR if needed), postproduction (editing). You don't simply show everyone the raw shots you've recorded; you edit the film, you colour-grade, you do the audio. Most labour-intensive work is in the postproduction anyway.
      The purpose of this test was to show how well a film shot on an iPhone holds up, when compared to a reference result (a $50k RED). And, as I said numerous times, the point is that, if you're waiting to save enough money for a C100 (or 5Dmkiii) in order to shoot your first movie, you are just looking for an excuse to do nothing. The test show you that you can shoot your movie with the phone you have in your pocket. No excuses.

  • @brackman71
    @brackman71 7 років тому +903

    Most people won't be flying their iPhone on a nearly $3,000 stabilizer rig, either. Professional, high-quality, motorized physical stabilization goes a LONG WAY to making a professional product.
    ALSO... the Red Weapon will never lose a take because someone called you. :P

    • @thewrongopinion7811
      @thewrongopinion7811 7 років тому +57

      Always switch to airplane mode when shooting...

    • @g.e.o.r.g.e...
      @g.e.o.r.g.e... 7 років тому +19

      $300 gimbals work fine too.

    • @brackman71
      @brackman71 7 років тому

      George Maybe for a smartphone, but there's not a single motorized 3-axis gimbal that will fly a Red Weapon for less than a grand. The one used in the video is almost $3,000.

    • @EdoHDpro
      @EdoHDpro 7 років тому

      HyperOptic Productions airplane mode

    • @g.e.o.r.g.e...
      @g.e.o.r.g.e... 7 років тому +7

      HyperOptic Productions Obviously for a smartphone... that's what we were talking about.
      Nobody cares about how much the rig costs for his Red. The little 7 inch display is $3,000, and a new HANDLE is as much as an iPhone.
      Professional equipment costs more... shocking!

  • @rnilu86
    @rnilu86 7 років тому +410

    Let me guess, the video from the bottom frame was shot on RED.

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +22

      With a $10 dollar lens mind you.... Guys a moron

    • @MexicanMovie
      @MexicanMovie 7 років тому +26

      It is still an L series lens, hardly a ten dollar lens. He didn't use the cine lens purposely to show show what the IPhone 7+ can do, not to try and degrade the Red Weapon. When you are working for top professional companies and you don't have a troll account to comment from, we can discuss this further. I just finished his free webinar and he has had a lot of training and experience, and he offered up some impressive tidbits of info, even though I consider myself fairly knowledgeable on videography from doing stock footage work in photo & video as well as a couple of hobby cinematography projects. -Kevin

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +5

      wakeup1986 Oh really where did you study your Film degree at? I studied for 5 years and have worked for the last 10.
      I bet the highest grade camera you've worked with is DLSR, at most a C100.
      Come back to me when you've used a real camera and worked on a real production. videography... Try doing some real Cinematography.

    • @MexicanMovie
      @MexicanMovie 7 років тому +28

      There you go... it's not about the camera, it's about what you can do with it. Why don't you sign up for Parker's film school and we'll both post entries into the video contests and let everybody else critique our work and go from there ???

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +4

      wakeup1986 By that answer I assume I was correct in the camera guess.How about we both submit to cannes or Toronto film festival. If that's not to out of your league. I'll be at both in 2017 so message me back in 6 months and let me know what your entry is. =)

  • @EndstyleGG
    @EndstyleGG 7 років тому +86

    99 % of people are missing the point. Of course the phone wont get the same quality in dark areas and the same deph of field etc. The video was to show that u dont need a 50k + camera to make really nice looking films, especially for social media sites like youtube where it gets compressed anyways.

    • @MyFukinBass
      @MyFukinBass 6 років тому +3

      You just need a $3000 stabilizer (Just kidding, I got the point lmao).

    • @africanhistory
      @africanhistory 5 років тому +4

      I got the point, but they doing this comparison for CLICKS, because Paul made this point and Jet made this point yet they keep making the same point over and over and over again. I got the point-- teach us something new. Oh no, they will not do that unless you sign up for their courses. Its all good, they have to earn a living but call a cat a cat.

  • @Arcanineisthebest
    @Arcanineisthebest 7 років тому +1022

    Well, to, be fair, you are mounting the iPhone to a gimbal worth quite a shit load of money...

    • @cryogenicheart2019
      @cryogenicheart2019 7 років тому +20

      Arcanineisthebest iphone gimbals are cheap

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +25

      And putting a $10 dollar lens on a 50k camera

    • @kyleweir1590
      @kyleweir1590 7 років тому +109

      I'd like to know where you can get a Canon L lense for $10

    • @toocreepy.
      @toocreepy. 7 років тому

      LMFAO

    • @theodorelemineur7661
      @theodorelemineur7661 7 років тому +16

      Arcanineisthebest but the red weapon to is on a gimbal. Sooooooo its fair.

  • @Mustang8ify
    @Mustang8ify 4 роки тому +2

    I've watched this video a few times over the past couple years. In that time, I've shot in every setting and lighting condition with my iPhone 7 plus with filmic pro next to my Panasonic gh4. The gh4 was such a pleasant surprise--I've always liked the 4k video images it produces. The iPhone and filmic pro, however, was not. The differences are so dramatic between the iPhone and the gh4 that I couldn't imagine what they would be like with a Red camera. Filmic pro, in my view, doesn't provide much increase in video quality over the iPhone camera app and it's full of noise. I really like the energy of this fellow; I like the way he delivers his message. I appreciate the effort he took to put this together. But I'm calling time out. You don't need a 50 k camera to shoot something decent. You do need something better than an iPhone, and there are a lot of great cameras out there that cost about the same.

  • @Vylkeer
    @Vylkeer 7 років тому +178

    You can't really show the quality difference on UA-cam because of video compression. A RED Epic will always be miles better than any smartphone because of its sensor, lenses and image processor. These three elements are fundamental when it comes to video quality and no smartphone will be able to match a camera of this kind. Yeah, creativity is key obviously, but if we're talking video quality, nothing compares to Red, Arri or BlackMagic.

    • @evtimpapushev7137
      @evtimpapushev7137 7 років тому +18

      As was exactly the point at 2:40 (ua-cam.com/video/ztpX3AO1UtU/v-deo.html)

    • @cryogenicheart2019
      @cryogenicheart2019 7 років тому +12

      Vylkeer majority of content are consumed on youtube anyway.. so unless you're shooting a fking movie for imax theatres whats the point

    • @Vylkeer
      @Vylkeer 7 років тому +1

      cryogenicheart2019 You don't need to shoot an IMAX movie to take advantage of it, you just need to shoot any movie even a short or music video. The point is, it doesn't make that huge different on UA-cam, but it does when you're able to show the full quality and its full potential.

    • @cryogenicheart2019
      @cryogenicheart2019 7 років тому +6

      Vylkeer that's what I'm saying. Even short films and music videos get the bulk of their views on youtube. So there's no reason to use expensive gear when 99% of your audience are not gonna see it at its "full potential".

    • @Vylkeer
      @Vylkeer 7 років тому

      cryogenicheart2019 True. I hope UA-cam and similar internet services will increase the bitrate and other specs when uploading a video, so to have less quality loss.

  • @IliaSibiryakov
    @IliaSibiryakov 8 років тому +17

    I would say the difference between phone and 'proper' camera footage is motion, phones always look jerkier than a normal camera even at a high shutter speed.

    • @IliaSibiryakov
      @IliaSibiryakov 7 років тому

      ***** I agree that is part of it, but I think most phones have timing issues between frames where the interval is not always equal, high shutter speed footage can look smoother than that(just a theory)

    • @Gumpa2
      @Gumpa2 7 років тому +2

      Also its a shit ton less versatile doinng your shots. No focus pulling, no peaking, no zebra, no Neutral Density filters, no other different optics, sharpness ist not too good, depth of field either, less possibility for postproduction, less dynamic range. Just saying, the Iphone is a 700€ Device or so. You could get a camera for that, that would be more versatile in these terms. None the less, the image quality seems to be quite good for a mobile device, but as he said int he video, since youtube compresses the shit out of every footage, the difference between the RED and the Iphone are going to be was less obvious.

    • @Arrogan28
      @Arrogan28 7 років тому +1

      For this test anyway, you cannot really fairly compare the two, not only because of compression, etc, but also because it is likely his center point of rotation on the gimbal is around the red camera, not the iphone taped on top, so the iphone's framing is changing more each frame than the red is. But your right in general there are shutter issues that are going to bite you on the iphone that you have more control over on the red for instance.
      Even Roger Deakins made a joke recently that he doesn't care, he would shoot it on an iphone if the director wanted it for some reason, dig technology is getting good enough in general. But that is a guy with more experience shooting than 20 good cinematographers working in film right now have, so he probably knows enough to get around the iphones limitations and make a shot work. I have no doubt a genius eye like his could actually really make a movie with the iphone 7 that looks as good as many succesful moives. For the rest of us, shooting any important piece on the iphone7 would be stupid. As Gumpa2 says, for 700€ you can buy a blackmagic and get way better shots...

    • @JackRoutledge
      @JackRoutledge 7 років тому +2

      I think it looked jerky because the optical image stabilization built into the iPhone was fighting against the stabilizer, causing it to look shaky. that was the first thing that tipped me off about which was the phone. That said, the best camera is the one you have already.

    • @EugeniaLoli
      @EugeniaLoli 7 років тому +1

      The app he uses on his iPhone (and the one he recommends on the other video, the BTS one), Filmic Pro, supports shutter speed and ISO changes. And if you're shooting outdoors, I'd highly recommend an ND filter to deal with the unavoidable overexposure of the sky (due to the small sensor). So yeah, if you know how to shoot well, and the ability exists on your digicam or phone, the problems go away. I've shot official music videos with a $200 digicam, and no one would believe that the footage was from such a small camera. But the trick was: always lock exposure (and set shutter speed if your device allows it to a cinematic value, e.g. 1/48th for 24p, 1/60th for 30p), lock exposure to -1 and use an ND add-on filter outdoors, shoot with flat colors to enable easier color-grading in post (Canon allows for low contrast, saturation, sharpness controls on their cheap cams), and shoot at 30p (for a video without audio, like I did for my music videos -- music was added in post). Then, you slow down the 30p to 24p in the video editor (exactly what he did here too). And that comes out super-cinematic. I've been doing these tricks with digicams since 2009 (and with cellphones since 2 years ago, before then, the right software abilities were not there). The tricks work.

  • @iyuzhulan
    @iyuzhulan 7 років тому +40

    lord of the ring music?

    • @Brunlworkshop
      @Brunlworkshop 7 років тому +7

      Yup "Shire theme"

    • @drizzel47
      @drizzel47 7 років тому

      Zhenru Zhang played it with my trumpet. It's wonderful!

    • @MatheusSantos-qk7fw
      @MatheusSantos-qk7fw 7 років тому +2

      I was scrolling down looking for a comment like this!!

    • @pederolsen3489
      @pederolsen3489 4 роки тому

      Lord Of The Rings not ring

  • @VinceCheong
    @VinceCheong 7 років тому +2

    Wow, the fact that he executed this side by side comparison so well, it would deceived almost 90% of the audience in cinemas or any viewing platform. Quick fast cuts, and everyone would think it's shot on a million dollar camera! Well done!

  • @EduarFilms
    @EduarFilms 8 років тому +9

    The footage is quite good on the iphone, specially on the sun shot. It has good enough DR and the colors look good too.

    • @HurzMurz
      @HurzMurz 7 років тому +5

      My thoughts, too! :) The only difference I could see was the depth of field on the RED because of the bigger sensor and the f2.8 lens

    • @djayfriMusic
      @djayfriMusic 7 років тому +1

      and the particular flare from the Iphone

    • @HurzMurz
      @HurzMurz 7 років тому

      yes :)

  • @ameraljabr405
    @ameraljabr405 7 років тому

    Indoor shooting will really show you how much difference, low lighting situation distinguish the good cameras and the bad ones

  • @SuperChi11
    @SuperChi11 7 років тому +133

    I never liked these comparisons where any camera can do good at. Obviously filming at a beautiful location without having to focus on anything and using mostly wide angle shots is going to look good. A camcorder against a RED might look better for a mostly static shot. But itts when you get to the 50% of the other type of shots you will be doing where the RED or even any large sensor sized interchangeable lens camera will dominate any camcorder or phone.

    • @shem44
      @shem44 7 років тому +21

      you are missing the whole point of this video.

    • @SuperChi11
      @SuperChi11 7 років тому +8

      Kenny Shem No i'm not. I get it "you don't need expensive gear to start filming" but this just shows the best conditions possible type of scenario. What I am saying is that there is a huge need for expensive cameras and just using your phone wont cut it.

    • @shem44
      @shem44 7 років тому +34

      the discussion is not about abandoning RED and use iphone for proper production. It's to show that under certain environment, a smartphone can achieve such good result by which most online viewers won't be able to tell the differences. If you are to screen in theater, heavy color grading, green screen, low light, shallow dof shot definitely go for the RED but that's not the purpose of this video. It's not correct to bring in camcorder as that is a proper video camera whereas iphone is just a phone in your pocket.

    • @spider853
      @spider853 7 років тому +5

      Kenny, but you're limiting yourself and your story. You're adapting the story to use the bad camera (only daylight scenes, only that focus, only that lens...). It's not only about shitty quality

    • @onegrapefruitlover
      @onegrapefruitlover 7 років тому +3

      DavidSaganHD Exactly! These shots are the low-hanging fruit, a comparison in low light or basically anything a little more challenging would not yield the same results at all. Highly suspect this was sponsored by Apple.

  • @SecretSocietyTV
    @SecretSocietyTV 7 років тому

    great video. everybody needs to realize this only works with exceptional lighting conditions. you pull out an iphone in indoor location and an infant can tell the difference between the footage and a red.

  • @TeaRexTheMighty
    @TeaRexTheMighty 7 років тому +27

    Why on earth are people complaning about the damn stabilizer? The videos where shot equally and in "exactly" the same way. It's a completely fair comparison. This was supposed to show the difference in the video quality comparing a phone to a $50,000 RED.

    • @JDAfrica
      @JDAfrica 6 років тому

      100% agree - that was the most revealing thing to me. Spend some money on a decent stabilizer system, (Zhiyun Gimbal Smooth 3 or Osmo), and that will immediately give you 1 up in production. Im blown away by the phone video quality ... and to think these things can shoot up to 240fps.

    • @troy5568
      @troy5568 6 років тому

      Yeah, they thought Hollywood movies are shot with bare hands.

    • @japmalalay9784
      @japmalalay9784 6 років тому +1

      Hahahaha. People like to hate on anything and rant about everything. Used to it though

  • @nicholastoo858
    @nicholastoo858 7 років тому

    To see the difference is easy, the dynamic range, especially the bright areas. See the sun in that last comparison shot. But, yeah, your point is still valid.

  • @NicolasWaldvogel
    @NicolasWaldvogel 7 років тому +18

    Looked good but if you had shot less flattering locations, before/after magic hour and no gimbal, the two wouldn't even be close to comparable..

    • @DirectorHMAN
      @DirectorHMAN 7 років тому +4

      I think thats his point. You can use some skill to make it stack up to higher end equipment

    • @leecason9468
      @leecason9468 7 років тому

      situation and environment aren't "skills"

    • @DirectorHMAN
      @DirectorHMAN 7 років тому +6

      +Lee Cason location scouting is a skill

    • @samvalentine9243
      @samvalentine9243 7 років тому +1

      H MAN so anyone who can identify a beautiful mountain-side is a qualified to be a location scout on a high-budget shoot? You do realize that there's more to a professional location scout's job than pointing out pretty places, right?

  • @JohnMcQuay
    @JohnMcQuay 7 років тому

    The camera in the iPhone 7 is an amazing tool. I love that I have such a powerful camera in my pocket all the time. I usually use a GH4 and rig for my projects, but the iPhone on an Osmo Mobile is a great "quick" option that is easy to haul places that I don't want to lug a larger setup.

  • @morphsuitgamer870
    @morphsuitgamer870 7 років тому +195

    And throw it on youtube, because youtube compression will really help show what is better. An iPhone or a Red.

    • @TheRestlesstonight
      @TheRestlesstonight 7 років тому +3

      Most filmakers use Vimeo... but it is not that different in quality (slightly higher datarates)

    • @Vylkeer
      @Vylkeer 7 років тому +3

      I absolutely agree, but they really don't have any other better option to show it off. UA-cam would have to allow way higher bitrates and have overall lower compression for people to really notice the obvious quality difference between a Red and an iPhone 7.

    • @Garcia24678
      @Garcia24678 7 років тому +2

      Morphsuit Gamer L

    • @susmoys
      @susmoys 7 років тому

      huh quality. let me tell u if u really want that quality. open up ur 6k fucking footage. no.. not in video player. in text file. and calculate the binary numbers and figure out how much correctly the raw datas has been captured. guess what? u aint doing that shit ;) thats why u r here shitting with an iphone and making living living. else, u would've been that nerd doing coding.

    • @Droggelbecherbot
      @Droggelbecherbot 7 років тому +4

      I was like: oh, look at those grainy and pixelated edges, that must be the iPhone...
      no wait, just the youtube compression :D

  • @alaskanfrogman
    @alaskanfrogman 7 років тому +1

    The dead giveaway is from the lens flare of the 2 units. The iphone produces a single lens flare that has chromatic aberrations, while the Red Weapon has a full compliment of lens flares from the multiple layers of glass that makes up the lens that you used in the film. The imaging of the Red is marginally sharper and is more crisp. Also, the colors are more true with the Red and the image is slightly better. Nice film, nice and honest assessment and comparison. I won't say which film is which, but I have no doubts about which is the iphone and which was shot on the Red unit... Thanks for sharing.

  • @ocukor1
    @ocukor1 7 років тому +3

    Now if I could figure out how to get to your website and see the tutorial that you've made I probably would.

    • @cristinapinx8031
      @cristinapinx8031 7 років тому

      Bе thе first tоооо win iРhоneeee 7 => twitter.com/caa0d22c3b8b736bc/status/790428760050798592 iРРРРhоnе 7 Vidео vs 50 000 RЕD Wеаpрооооn Fооtaaаgе

    • @basementhermit3607
      @basementhermit3607 7 років тому

      Maybe you should put that link in the video description. I think that might've been Oliver's point. Great video btw, couldn't believe that was shot on an iPhone.

  • @newdawnfades263
    @newdawnfades263 7 років тому

    Wow - this is super impressive. I'm a filmmaker and I honestly struggled to tell the difference at first. The thing that gives it away is the way the iPhone handles motion blur. It looks 'off' compared to the red (and a dslr that handles video well.) But in terms of resolution, for such a tiny lens, the iPhone is incredible.

  • @jehugarcia
    @jehugarcia 7 років тому +6

    Awesome job! You up for collaborating?

  • @MichaelRoninTV
    @MichaelRoninTV 7 років тому

    It is when you have poor lighting that the better camera truly comes to life, most cameras these days do a great job when the lighting is good; even more so when you are shooting in such a beautiful location as that :)

  • @SilasWilloughby
    @SilasWilloughby 8 років тому +7

    I love the lord of the rings music

  • @Forflies
    @Forflies 7 років тому

    Wow that was awesome

  • @Adventuregrapher
    @Adventuregrapher 7 років тому +3

    It seems like I need to start using my phone more at least to shoot some B-roll footage :)

  • @gauravsharma3721
    @gauravsharma3721 6 років тому

    This is called a rocking channel on youtube

  • @radud51
    @radud51 7 років тому +8

    But the Iphone was too on that rig(stabilizer, i don't know how it's called).
    I think this made also a great part of the job.

  • @iDealMedley
    @iDealMedley 7 років тому

    I tried using iPhone 7 not the 7 plus to shoot some video for my class was impress that i could achieve cinematic result and the internal stabilisation is amazing for what it is.

  • @ethanoglesby4368
    @ethanoglesby4368 7 років тому +5

    "shot completely on the iPhone 7" what about the stabilizer, professional editing software, light reflectors etc?

    • @mrvideodude101
      @mrvideodude101 4 роки тому

      Exactly, there are many different elements in play here other than the different cameras.

  • @wratnik
    @wratnik 7 років тому

    you can easily discern both by dynamic range. The wider dynamic range of RED is immediately apparent.

  • @sherdogholmes576
    @sherdogholmes576 7 років тому +54

    Yeah the dynamic range on IPhone still isn't that great, same with low light. And it can't really compare with using a RED to its full capabilities.

    • @speedbird737
      @speedbird737 7 років тому +7

      yep but I can do something close with my $900 iPhone 7 plus - awesome value for money!

    • @andresalfonso4407
      @andresalfonso4407 7 років тому

      Nigel Harrison try do it on night !

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +1

      And with a lens that costs more than $10 dollars from Kmart....

    • @MelvinGundlach
      @MelvinGundlach 7 років тому +1

      matsta177 You don't have to post that under every comment. (While you still haven't shown us where to get that 10$ lens)

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 7 років тому +1

      MikelG00 Posted where already maybe read another comment with my reply.

  • @jdrou
    @jdrou 7 років тому

    That was awesome ;)

  • @sanneh2
    @sanneh2 7 років тому +4

    You know what blew my mind last time I was thinking about this. This is a hoax/fake/scam video to increase the perceived value of the iPhone 7 Plus, because there is *no* way that these 2 cameras go actually head to head. RIGHT?!

    • @tjl2836
      @tjl2836 4 роки тому

      @@fulltimefilmmaker Love your video. Super high quality. But it would be nice if you emphasized that you edited the colors.

  • @epicuritus9761
    @epicuritus9761 7 років тому

    This was AWESOME!!!! And NOT because of the camera comparison. I grew up hiking those mountains, back before the trails were as nice as they are now. I spent so many summers climbing that very ridge and the canyon that is shown behind it. Beautiful area, that west side of Lone Peak. :) Thanks for showcasing it so well.

  • @BryceDearden
    @BryceDearden 8 років тому +32

    I don't think this is a very good comparison, just about any camera will look good in competent hands, with good light and a $3,000 stabilizer. I understand the point was to demonstrate you shouldn't use the "My gear isn't good enough excuse" but I feel it would have been far more realistic and fair if you had used a less expensive stabilization method than the movi.

    • @BryceDearden
      @BryceDearden 7 років тому

      Thank you I am well aware of that, what I was suggesting is he use a phone stabilizer for the phone and the movi for the RED. I know it wouldn't be the exact same shots but hear me out. If you are using a RED, investing in a movi makes a lot of sense, I mean the M5 fully rigged up probably costs about a tenth of what that camera costs, but if that's the case, it is also five times more expensive than the cost of an iPhone 7. Someone trying to use a phone camera for production will need a stabilizer, but I don't think any phone-dedicated stabilizer (except maybe the new Osmo mobile) can replicate the amazing results and usability of a movi. My point wasn't to use a less expensive stabilizer for both, my point was to put them each on one the end user might implement.

    • @BryceDearden
      @BryceDearden 7 років тому +1

      Parker Walbeck Yeah I understand, and I didn't mean to challenge that idea at all. My reaction was a bit disproportionate and I'm sorry about that. I have a lot of respect for you and the really great content you are putting out to help new film makers. I guess my point was that even though you can create great cinematic images with any gear, it is important to convey that it isn't super easy to create beautiful dynamic shots like the ones featured here. In hindsight you did discuss this, but most videos I see on topics like this sort of understate that if you want to use really budget friendly gear you have to put in a lot of work.

    • @lookitsanivysaur.3172
      @lookitsanivysaur.3172 7 років тому +2

      Bryce Dearden red and iPhone both were using a stabilizer. So it's a fair fight. Now shut the fuck up loser.

  • @Chriswasfirst
    @Chriswasfirst 7 років тому

    The first video I thought was the red, but it said shoot on iPhone!!! That's crazy good.

  • @grahamcouture6786
    @grahamcouture6786 7 років тому +110

    The quality isn't honestly that different given the $49,000 price difference. I'd rather stick with an iPhone and a new car instead of a Red Weapon.

    • @yuh6094
      @yuh6094 7 років тому +17

      Graham Clarence low light is where the difference shows

    • @grahamcouture6786
      @grahamcouture6786 7 років тому

      johnniedehuff still, if I can buy an iPhone, a new MacBook Pro and a new vehicle for the same price as one camera, I'll take the former over the latter. If I was a serious video maker I might get the Red Weapon. It is truly a great camera and can't be done justice on UA-cam since it doesn't support 6K. Yet.

    • @luca_hc_gruber
      @luca_hc_gruber 7 років тому +4

      one word, Glass.
      Iphone has only one lense thats the big problem

    • @grahamcouture6786
      @grahamcouture6786 7 років тому

      Luca Gruber true. The interchangeable lenses are nice on dedicated cameras.

    • @_MJ07_
      @_MJ07_ 7 років тому +13

      To the untrained eye on UA-cam at low resolutions, most people couldn't tell the difference. I told instantly because of dynamic range. To get true cinematic quality, you would struggle on an iPhone.

  • @judichristopher4604
    @judichristopher4604 7 років тому

    This does not surprise me at all... A few years ago I was in a movie... and the lady that was shooting the continuity was using a iPhone4... some of her "B" roll shots were better than the main camera!!! That is when I was hooked on IPhone... ;) ... I teach the same knowledge that you do, that it is Great to have an expensive camera like the Red, (who wouldn't want that?) ... but, an IPhone or a Cannon 5D Mark III isn't bad to start out with at all.. Thank you for sharing this... and I can't wait to see more... ;)

  • @Emilioh888
    @Emilioh888 7 років тому +101

    Yeah, good luck achieving shallow depth of field with your iPhone...

    • @newdawnfades263
      @newdawnfades263 7 років тому +3

      Emilioh888 it's entirely possible with lens adaptors. You put different lenses on your red, so it's a fair comparison when you add a lens attachment to the iPhone.

    • @Zarabozo
      @Zarabozo 7 років тому

      Dr Pellypo There's no way to adapt lens to the iPhone or any camera of that size with unremovable lens to achieve depth of field.

    • @newdawnfades263
      @newdawnfades263 7 років тому

      Francisco Zarabozo I disagree. Beastgrip is just one such adaptor.

  • @adrianzarate1571
    @adrianzarate1571 7 років тому

    So, you only need a decent gimbal, to know how to light, use some edition programs, use composition and also the limitations of your mobile camera to make something even comparable to a high end camera, this is motivation for people who want to make some films in a budget, thanks!

  • @kaimelis
    @kaimelis 7 років тому +3

    100 percent iphone 7 s? what about the $$$$ gimbal?

  • @austinpark2161
    @austinpark2161 7 років тому +1

    Brooooo that iPhone 7 footage was Insane

  • @factophile2.6mviews81
    @factophile2.6mviews81 7 років тому +4

    Okay...now go watch my video to see a $200 DSLR camera kick the shit out of an iPhone in video and photo!

  • @katemjd8010
    @katemjd8010 7 років тому

    I think too many people are held back from accomplishing amazing things because they get too obsessed with things like the lack of a $50,000 camera. The message of this video is simple -- get out there and start working on your creative projects with what you have. Even if it's just an iPhone. Creativity goes a LOOOOONG way.

  • @nathankolbe4939
    @nathankolbe4939 7 років тому +25

    "it doesn't matter what your budget is"
    * films with 800 dollar phone on top of the range gimbal *
    come on bro...

    • @nathankolbe4939
      @nathankolbe4939 7 років тому +2

      Parker Walbeck ok buddy, if that's what your mind is set on. Sure the camera only costs $50, but it's not like I can go on amazon and buy the iphone camera. so what is your point even supposed to make clear??

    • @dean8067
      @dean8067 7 років тому

      Blackest Man Alive This was a very dumb comment. An 800 dollar iPhone is dirt cheap compared to any sort of professional equipment or even the other camera he used

  • @TheZuyTech
    @TheZuyTech 7 років тому

    Awesome man , im using my iphone 7 plus to film 🎥 all my videos for my tech channel and its really amazing !

  • @shaniawes1716
    @shaniawes1716 7 років тому +4

    1:20 looks like green screen

  • @PradiptaMitraVlogs
    @PradiptaMitraVlogs 6 років тому

    Please shoot a video red weapon vs oppo f3

  • @jonvenusti
    @jonvenusti 7 років тому +42

    lmao so many salty RED fanboys.. does the snobby attitude come with the overpriced camera or is that an overpriced mandatory accessory ?

    • @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
      @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi 7 років тому +1

      RED fanboys? This is getting stupid, what's next Aunt Jemima fanboys? Medium roast arabica coffee fanboys?
      They are just salty that the iPhone has a good camera, which should be expected from a flagship phone. There are no RED fanboys lol.

    • @dankdopths6955
      @dankdopths6955 6 років тому +1

      I do think they are overpriced as all hell. But, in the end, they are targeted at cinema studios. They don't care about price in the end. Because studios will by a $100k camera anyways.
      But, if you're talking about the comments, I agree with you. People aren't getting the message that the video is to show the AMAZING improvement of smartphones.

    • @JoeLancaster
      @JoeLancaster 5 років тому

      Overpriced isn't accurate. In fact the reason RED became so popular in the first place was because of how vastly cheaper it was than the comparable competition.

  • @anton7244
    @anton7244 7 років тому

    as long as you can colour grade well it doesn't matter what camera you use

  • @gigigigiotto1673
    @gigigigiotto1673 7 років тому +5

    Ahahahah are you serious? Red vs iPhone? Ahahahahh

  • @nicodechavez2542
    @nicodechavez2542 7 років тому

    The stabilizer makes all the difference. what ever camera you used if you have a great stabilizer you can make anything cinematic.

  • @police0204
    @police0204 6 років тому

    All u need is Light Color and View important is the good background music

  • @sal_hussain
    @sal_hussain 6 років тому

    Lol, your gimbal is soooo nice to, so you have to keep that in mind. Secondly, its important to know that after color coding, and throwing different LUTS, and adding different retiming in post, the quality looks a lot better. Not only that, but the landscape was buetifal. Not saying the iPhone S quality was bad, cause it was great, but there are many factors, and I think the setting was a prominent factor.

  • @rpgslayertv
    @rpgslayertv 7 років тому

    Its kinda funny that i could recognize the Red Weapon footage and ive never even heard of it. Its just very noticeable which one is better. Although the iPhone 7 footage was pretty good!

  • @KonvasForSale
    @KonvasForSale 7 років тому

    This did a great job of showing what excellent images the iPhone is able to generate. It's pretty mind blowing how good the phone looks.... however, I could just not get past the stuttery look because the iPhone was obviously shooting at a much higher than "normal" shutter speed (and I'm assuming you can't control that with the iPhone, I don't know as I don't shoot motion footage with a phone). The RED footage looked so silky smooth because it was no doubt shot with something much closer to the equivalent of a 180 degree shutter (which would be 1/48th of a second if shooting 24fps). No doubt in the brighter scenes the shutter speed ramps waaaay up, yielding those crisp images. I stopped to look at a few still frames where there was a lot of motion (the guy waving his arms, for example), and in the iPhone footage it was perfectly crisp, not a hint of motion blur. Your brain obviously needs that motion blur to perceive the action as smooth, which is what the iPhone footage has a bit of an undesirable staccato look to it. Great comparison.

  • @legomigginy4054
    @legomigginy4054 7 років тому

    The iPhone 7+ footage looks amazing, like a great dlsr camera

  • @SuperSharpboy
    @SuperSharpboy 7 років тому

    Buffering the vid at 1440p on the lg g4 really helps you tell quickly which video is shot with the red weapon 😄

    • @SuperSharpboy
      @SuperSharpboy 7 років тому

      Just learned that I was wrong! Turns out, the one on the top was the iPhone whereas I though otherwise! Really impressed

  • @claudioagmfilho
    @claudioagmfilho 7 років тому

    I am from Recife in Brazil South America great video...and comparison of the two cameras.

  • @karanbruh9563
    @karanbruh9563 7 років тому

    Yes I subscribed

  • @raniielee3847
    @raniielee3847 7 років тому

    Best comparison ever! Let's handicap the capability of the Red Weapon vs what the iPhone 7+ can do best and market it as good as a Red Weapon to a bunch of iDiots! It's like a kid riding a bike at 15mph and a dude driving a lambo at 15mph and trying to explain to kids the Bike is just as good as the lambo.

    • @raniielee3847
      @raniielee3847 7 років тому

      Parker Walbeck No, I do get the point of your video. however, your video can very easily spread misinformation toward the two products. You missed my point.

  • @mochamadarifin3527
    @mochamadarifin3527 6 років тому

    Youre deserve for 1 million Subscriber, I Love your video cinematografi so beautiful 😄

  • @JeremyBoulerice
    @JeremyBoulerice 7 років тому

    Top one is the Red camera. You can tell mostly because it has more stops of dynamic range. Shots at the start have a slightly more blown out sky on the bottom shot (iphone)

  • @PTKDM
    @PTKDM 6 років тому

    เก่งจริง ผมชื่นชอบในการทำคริปของเขาจริงๆ

  • @divine6735
    @divine6735 7 років тому

    Jeez it is really the skill !!!! This is awesome

  • @belajartsindonesia5099
    @belajartsindonesia5099 6 років тому

    i agree,.that the creativity,.is the number one,.
    but the gear is important too,.but , to be honest,.
    the gear is nothing without creativity

  • @FlorianRazocha
    @FlorianRazocha 7 років тому

    this is a great comparison video, thanks!
    to make sense of it all: please disclose all the camera and lens settings you used. for both cameras (as far as you can tell with a smartphone cam...). color profile, shutter, aperture, lens, iso, any other stuff that's worth mentioning...
    and then: what did you do in post? this is important! sharpening, any kind of grading, ...
    you can't expect to have a technical comparison like this taken seriously without any real tech specs.

  • @29kalel
    @29kalel 7 років тому

    Great video Parker. Glad I choose an iphone 7 plus.

  • @eirik73
    @eirik73 7 років тому

    It´s almost like comparing a racing car (RED) to a slow family car (iPhone) in rush traffic - no obvious difference. However when that rush traffic clears, there will be a huge difference. But still a fun test. And a good photographer can use any tool and get great results, a RED will not make you a great filmmaker, but it will make a great filmmaker better!

  • @slimesterg
    @slimesterg 7 років тому +1

    that lens flair on the weapon gave it away with the side by side

    • @frosti7
      @frosti7 7 років тому

      and DR

    • @slimesterg
      @slimesterg 7 років тому

      Rostislav Alexandrovich oh yeah cant forget thats a big one with smart phones

    • @TheThreeLancers
      @TheThreeLancers 7 років тому

      plus the high light roll off was very digital compared to the reds but for a phone I am surprised

  • @mbongenisimela4757
    @mbongenisimela4757 6 років тому

    That is amazing Parker.

  • @alaskanfrogman
    @alaskanfrogman 7 років тому

    Parker Walbeck, I see that so many people missed the point of this demonstration. He (Parker) was very clear about what he did and why he did things the way he did. He also pointed out that you do not need expensive equipment to shoot great looking films, and he is absolutely correct. His comparison and assessments were spot on, and I understood his message perfectly. I am able to shoot good looking films with my smartphone without the fancy gear or stabilizers, and without expensive equipment. That is precisely his point and his reason for doing this side by side comparison. He made it a point to let you know that"you're only limited by your imagination and skills at using what you have...
    His other point of this film was to show you what can be achieved and what you yourself can do if you have the knowledge and take the right approach with the right attitude... I'm sorry that so many of you don't see or understand that. But, he was also aware that there would be many "nay-sayers" that would make many negative comments about his comparison. I applaud him for his skills as a filmmaker and his ability to foresee the comments now being posted and shared. Thank you Mr. Parker Walbeck for this beautifully made and informative film.

  • @timothy-ha
    @timothy-ha 7 років тому

    The iPhone dynamic range is unbelievably good

  • @cristobalcaro3392
    @cristobalcaro3392 7 років тому

    I watched this on my cellphone and the side by side was microscopic xD. But the pro camera has better "light tolerance" (?). What I mean with this is that the shadows are not so dark and the bright parts looks better.

  • @diegocorrales844
    @diegocorrales844 7 років тому

    Excellent soundtrack choice xD.

  • @CecilMathew2
    @CecilMathew2 7 років тому

    Even without a gimbal, the iPhone's got great image stabilisation especially at 60fps. The only annoying thing I'd say is the auto exposure. But there's always AF/AE lock :)

  • @gauravsharma3721
    @gauravsharma3721 6 років тому

    Brother trust me you are a great cinematographer

  • @TheFusionOwl
    @TheFusionOwl 7 років тому

    Cool and interesting test,Unfortunately I cannot really see the real difference because
    youtube downgrade the footage big time.What I see is that the phone uses high shutter speed causing a bit jittery lagging effect on faster movements but hey it’s a phone.Overall it’s a very impressive performance from a tiny sensor and lens.Great video!

  • @pruthviprince768
    @pruthviprince768 6 років тому

    He's such a legend !!

  • @imgoodatvideos6710
    @imgoodatvideos6710 7 років тому

    Get a wide angle lens and use colour correction

  • @dimunche
    @dimunche 5 років тому

    Wow! Very impressive! That was amazing!! What was the editing like!?? I think that would be the biggest grabber. I stumbled on tis video by watching your webinar by the way! Great stuff! Im taking detailed notes and learning a lot!

  • @TellmeonIt-storytelling
    @TellmeonIt-storytelling 7 років тому

    Hi, very clear and useful video. Thanks a lot!

  • @ShermanMR2
    @ShermanMR2 7 років тому +1

    Looks like you shot the Red at a much higher f stop as to not have a shallow depth of field to match the IPhone. Pretty sneaky if I do say so. But seriously though great video.

  • @rafkhan2903
    @rafkhan2903 6 років тому

    I never thought the iphone camera was so powerful !

  • @sum1tookish380
    @sum1tookish380 7 років тому

    Man, I was already excited about this video, but the LotR film score had me SOLD. LOL! good choice

  • @atr8126
    @atr8126 7 років тому

    Dope I own the gh4 and 7d and iphone 7 plus and this was amazing bro good work

  • @Artmanifesto
    @Artmanifesto 7 років тому

    I think you should try the procam4 app and shoot at 4k max and then compare. I think you would like the iphone results. But of course you can not compare with the RED

  • @ParkerBarandon
    @ParkerBarandon 7 років тому

    Both are amazing, really

  • @nonyabusiness665
    @nonyabusiness665 7 років тому

    Great video honestly, really nice camera handling as well.

  • @Uk01agent0
    @Uk01agent0 7 років тому

    I am following your lead now . good explanations

  • @NGC-8931
    @NGC-8931 7 років тому

    Man You Good with camera

  • @kingstarfilmworks
    @kingstarfilmworks 7 років тому

    Loved it! Thank you!

  • @brandonhill4670
    @brandonhill4670 7 років тому

    hmm seems like a i need a stabilizer lol Great video!

  • @nempense2695
    @nempense2695 6 років тому

    watching from Brazil you are amazing

  • @vcpatt
    @vcpatt 6 років тому

    Man, you've inspired me ... thank you

  • @JorgeArias
    @JorgeArias 7 років тому

    These are my thoughts, 1. Obviously we do not watch the amazing results of the RAW footage of his red weapon because of the compression of (i assume) the h.264 and the youtube compression. And 2. Yes, you can do anything with almost any camera, look out the vids of Romain Gavras (Amazing Director), He have some videos with the oldies vhs cameras.
    By the way, nice video!