Tracker OG is a terrific machine. A device you really can make your own with such an intuitive workflow. The Plus looks like a really strong development. The synths and drum synth sound great in the reviews I've seen. I will get the Plus, but I'll not be abandoning OG. They will sit next to each other and make me happy. 🙂
@@Aisjam I really like the limitations of the OG. It forces you to think differently and encourages creativity. It's fun, especially when most working days are spent inside a daw where there are no limits. Also it looks cool and sounds great. 🙂
The + does add extra tracks. however I do like that they didn't remove anything from the OG Tracker workflow so you can still do this. It just gives you more options to make music.
This is an amazing redevelopment of the original Tracker, very nice video you've created for people sitting on the fence, ya know if they are gonna pull the trigger. Or not. I'm currently having such a fantastic time utilising the OG, rinsing out adequate amounts of shady yet funky London Drumfunk that I'm not tempted by the upgrade. Since Firmware 1.8 it's solid, stable and the extra sampling time and pattern naming is a God Send for me. The only thing I would really love is Stereo Sample playback for some of my dystopian pads that lurk in the background, but ya know what it's not a deal breaker. I have an MPC X fully maxed out, which is the dogs but it's also a pain the the arse with so many possibilities. I will eventually get a Tracker + but not for a few years, because the OG is nice and focused for sample manipulation which is great for the next few EPs and an Album. Have fun mate, blessings from a Brit in Berlin. ❤️👌
It's almost become even more of a complete production suite...I've enjoyed the universal audio tracks on the Sonicware handheld that allow for longform traditional recording, what's the longest sample/recording length you can get on the +?
I know they did an update where they expanded recording time for the mini and tracker. just did some digging "Recording will automatically stop if the memory is full at ~750 Secs, Mono" or 375 stereo so 12 or 6 minutes at a time. Most of my recordings are at most 45~60secs then cut them up for instruments.
@@Aisjam wow, thats pretty huge! So many of the samplers aren't geared up for that workflow. Thanks so much for finding that, I'd been searching but couldn't find a solid answer
@@Aisjam full disclosure I’ve just passed my Tracker to a friend and am awaiting my + but had never considered the long form or tape-workflow possibilities hidden in them until your video...feel a tad slow! Also have the Mini but have barely used it so thanks, you’ve just given me the perfect reason to really dig into it
My OG tracker is unstable when previewing samples... It locks up, sometimes temporarily, sometimes it needs a restart. I use it as master clock and sequencing for a few analogue synths. I'll be happy if they just iron out the bugs with that...
@@Aisjam I'm on 1.7.1... I've reinstalled several times and it's been happening for several updates... It might be the length of the samples tho. But thx, I appreciate the advice. I told myself I didn't need a new tracker.. But those dedicated midi tracks really suit my use workflow
Since I got into synths in 2017, I've seen Polyend make really cool and ambitious devices. Devices that I really want -and this looks great - but they always scrap their products before I get the chance (or decide) to buy them. I wish they still made the Polyend Poly 2 and the Polyend Preset for my eurorack interfacing, but they were only around for a year or so before being scrapped. Now, Tracker 1 had been around for a while, but I wonder how long the Plus will be kicking before it's on to bigger and better things. I know, I know, small studio, they can only do so much, but I'm not sure how long this will stick around before it's abandoned.
Please correct me, if I’m wrong here. My view is very influenced by the Akai MPC point-of-view and what preventing me from buying an Polyend Tracker is the ability to multrack record. Example group more tracks and record polyphonic or just allow polyphonic within each track. Instead, you are still here forced to record it note-by-note per track. I think this is preventing this workstation from maturing up to other workstations. I know the “Limitation is good” touché statement is used here, but I don’t agree with it here as Renoise was able to do this since the last 20 years. I guess hardware at this point, should have the ability to do such stuff too?
As someone who uses renoise and my MPC 1000, Can understand why multi tracks is really valuable for chords and chord programming. The Tracker does polyphony by the use of multiple tracks and you can live record them by arming a select amount of them. However Its kinda tedious programming of polyphony. I want to talk about in a future video about how tracker music hits different. Specifically how trackers forces polyphony in the combination of melodic lines over chord progressions. My musical taste growing up was game music and had a tough time defining genres as there was a special sauce that made these tunes sound so memorable. Its one reason I like the Tracker so much, one day hope to get an M8 too. But it is finding tools that support your music journey. Also I think by the end of the decade we will see a variety of all-in-one workstations to meet anyone's style. I have a lot to say in this area and you make good points.
@@cresshead Thanks for explanation. But why don't we get sample banks in the tracker as in the digitakt 2 for example. Maybe 4×48 Sampleslots. That would be great
I would really like one, the drum synth alone makes it worth it for me, whenever I can upgrade, will be doing so, but before that, would love to get a tracker mini, then eventually own this, the drum synth is really the most unique feature the tracker plus has and I haven’t seen it covered yet, would you consider doing a video about that feature?
There are only 2 things that are keeping me from making this an instant upgrade buy from me - multi-timbral synth mode (multiple MIDI notes controlling different mono synths or sampler channels) and more than 2 FX per channel. Would love to be able to program velocity, microtiming, plus 2 other parameters. 2 step FX is too limiting.
Tracker OG is a terrific machine. A device you really can make your own with such an intuitive workflow. The Plus looks like a really strong development. The synths and drum synth sound great in the reviews I've seen. I will get the Plus, but I'll not be abandoning OG. They will sit next to each other and make me happy. 🙂
Still keeping my OG Tracker, Gonna talk more about it in the next update.
@@Aisjam I really like the limitations of the OG. It forces you to think differently and encourages creativity. It's fun, especially when most working days are spent inside a daw where there are no limits. Also it looks cool and sounds great. 🙂
2fx per instrument?
Thanks Homie!
love love love my original Tracker and this + one is very exciting.
Yay, Finally!!! Your review of the Tracker+ is the only one I trust. 😆
He was sent the unit by Polyend. It's a great review but it's still something to bear in mind
@@rorz999I feel you there. That's why I like supporting these machines showing the cool stuff over reviewing them. But the algorithm likes this stuff
bummer theyre not offering the upgrade program for the tracker like they did for the Play to Play +. i'd love to get the new one.
Yeah I’m bummed about it as well, tracker is my main way to write songs before exporting stems to ableton
They got loads of criticism when they did that for the Play+, so I can kind of understand why they didn't do it again this time
Yeah, I feel the criticism of the Play will make a lot of makers steer away from creating upgrade paths in the future for a while.
I missed the drama, I was unaware. that's unfortunate.
I cant wait for the mini to get these new features. But I was really hoping for a chorus send.
The additional channels are a great addition to it but I’d like to think that 8 tracks and resampling were part of the workflow
The + does add extra tracks. however I do like that they didn't remove anything from the OG Tracker workflow so you can still do this. It just gives you more options to make music.
This is an amazing redevelopment of the original Tracker, very nice video you've created for people sitting on the fence, ya know if they are gonna pull the trigger. Or not.
I'm currently having such a fantastic time utilising the OG, rinsing out adequate amounts of shady yet funky London Drumfunk that I'm not tempted by the upgrade. Since Firmware 1.8 it's solid, stable and the extra sampling time and pattern naming is a God Send for me.
The only thing I would really love is Stereo Sample playback for some of my dystopian pads that lurk in the background, but ya know what it's not a deal breaker. I have an MPC X fully maxed out, which is the dogs but it's also a pain the the arse with so many possibilities.
I will eventually get a Tracker + but not for a few years, because the OG is nice and focused for sample manipulation which is great for the next few EPs and an Album. Have fun mate, blessings from a Brit in Berlin. ❤️👌
Nice! When flippin fx in performance mode, do You get the effects per track when using audio over usb. Or is that only thru the stereo jack?
I have not tried this. New thing to try unlocked :). Would say it "should" work just with how it becomes an audio interface with the pc.
It's almost become even more of a complete production suite...I've enjoyed the universal audio tracks on the Sonicware handheld that allow for longform traditional recording, what's the longest sample/recording length you can get on the +?
I know they did an update where they expanded recording time for the mini and tracker. just did some digging "Recording will automatically stop if the memory is full at ~750 Secs, Mono" or 375 stereo so 12 or 6 minutes at a time. Most of my recordings are at most 45~60secs then cut them up for instruments.
@@Aisjam wow, thats pretty huge! So many of the samplers aren't geared up for that workflow. Thanks so much for finding that, I'd been searching but couldn't find a solid answer
@@Farold_Haltermeyer No problem, did a deep dive into the manual to find that nugget.
@@Aisjam full disclosure I’ve just passed my Tracker to a friend and am awaiting my + but had never considered the long form or tape-workflow possibilities hidden in them until your video...feel a tad slow! Also have the Mini but have barely used it so thanks, you’ve just given me the perfect reason to really dig into it
My OG tracker is unstable when previewing samples... It locks up, sometimes temporarily, sometimes it needs a restart. I use it as master clock and sequencing for a few analogue synths. I'll be happy if they just iron out the bugs with that...
What version of tracker and firmware are you running? think i had this issue with 1.7 and did a reinstall to solve it.
@@Aisjam I'm on 1.7.1... I've reinstalled several times and it's been happening for several updates... It might be the length of the samples tho.
But thx, I appreciate the advice. I told myself I didn't need a new tracker.. But those dedicated midi tracks really suit my use workflow
Since I got into synths in 2017, I've seen Polyend make really cool and ambitious devices. Devices that I really want -and this looks great - but they always scrap their products before I get the chance (or decide) to buy them. I wish they still made the Polyend Poly 2 and the Polyend Preset for my eurorack interfacing, but they were only around for a year or so before being scrapped. Now, Tracker 1 had been around for a while, but I wonder how long the Plus will be kicking before it's on to bigger and better things. I know, I know, small studio, they can only do so much, but I'm not sure how long this will stick around before it's abandoned.
does new Tracker+ have ability to record automation (without need for setting it per step on grid)?
Please correct me, if I’m wrong here. My view is very influenced by the Akai MPC point-of-view and what preventing me from buying an Polyend Tracker is the ability to multrack record. Example group more tracks and record polyphonic or just allow polyphonic within each track. Instead, you are still here forced to record it note-by-note per track. I think this is preventing this workstation from maturing up to other workstations.
I know the “Limitation is good” touché statement is used here, but I don’t agree with it here as Renoise was able to do this since the last 20 years. I guess hardware at this point, should have the ability to do such stuff too?
As someone who uses renoise and my MPC 1000, Can understand why multi tracks is really valuable for chords and chord programming. The Tracker does polyphony by the use of multiple tracks and you can live record them by arming a select amount of them. However Its kinda tedious programming of polyphony.
I want to talk about in a future video about how tracker music hits different. Specifically how trackers forces polyphony in the combination of melodic lines over chord progressions. My musical taste growing up was game music and had a tough time defining genres as there was a special sauce that made these tunes sound so memorable. Its one reason I like the Tracker so much, one day hope to get an M8 too. But it is finding tools that support your music journey. Also I think by the end of the decade we will see a variety of all-in-one workstations to meet anyone's style. I have a lot to say in this area and you make good points.
Q. still limited to 48 samples per project?
Didn't get that too....why is this limitation?
@@k-g-p becasue its tied to the number of physical buttons 12x4=48
KO2 has 48 samples 12x4 groups
sp-404mkii has 160 samples (16x10banks)
@@cresshead Thanks for explanation. But why don't we get sample banks in the tracker as in the digitakt 2 for example. Maybe 4×48 Sampleslots. That would be great
@@k-g-p if ram and cpu compute allows maybe a firmware update could add 'banks'
Didn't the original Tracker have 8 sample and 8 midi tracks, or even 16? Not on the display maybe.
I would really like one, the drum synth alone makes it worth it for me, whenever I can upgrade, will be doing so, but before that, would love to get a tracker mini, then eventually own this, the drum synth is really the most unique feature the tracker plus has and I haven’t seen it covered yet, would you consider doing a video about that feature?
I got them as on the video list. Might move the perc video forward. Gonna do a comparison between the mini and plus too
Any bugs you've noticed so far?
Been pretty stable so far over the last month.
@@Aisjam Reassuring to hear! A few users have suggested issues with the onboard synths
There are only 2 things that are keeping me from making this an instant upgrade buy from me - multi-timbral synth mode (multiple MIDI notes controlling different mono synths or sampler channels) and more than 2 FX per channel. Would love to be able to program velocity, microtiming, plus 2 other parameters. 2 step FX is too limiting.
Can't believe it's still 2 FX per channel. It's what made me return my mini.
I've enjoyed a number of you videos, but I've been curious about he wooden stand behind you - is that custom?
Yeah. I usually build my own furniture as it meets my needs
Looks like NI maschine cousin
Nice ponytail cupcake