This speech would have developed his character and completely flipped the plot of Avatar turning the Navi from the noble savage into the pathetic, floundering natives of a static culture. And all of their defenders from heroes into fools.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than the Na'vi because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, WMDs and so on - while all the Na'vi had ever done was muck about in their forests having a good time. But conversely, the Na'vi had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons.
@@Thunderbird-2 The humans of Avatar fucking killed Earth. They turned into an industrialised, polluted slum for the average person. And now they're bringing that to Pandora? They can eff off.
@@theregalproletariat to the age of Avatar universe, they have made FTL travel possible, and maybe even space mining and orbital habitats, the real problem wasn't that humanity has exhausted resources on earth, but they have mismanagement and were seeking a fast solution for it, they were more than capable to fix the problem, but it would have taken a hit to their economical and societal system, just like in the crisis of 2008 the banking and federal system were able to let the bubble pop and economy fix by itself and lost trillion of dollars, but no, they just patched up and let it for another day so they don't get important losses.
If any animal could do what humans do, they would. Dominating the ecosystem is every species' DREAM. Even chimps, our closest genetic relatives, have the capacity for cruelty, tool use, and war. It is only our philosophy and morality that keeps us in check, and that's what sets us apart.
Except the argument here is that scaling up those basic animal instincts indefinitely and unconditionally, while treating our philosophy and morality as simply self-validating extensions of it, is the "special spark" of a TRUUUUUE civilization. On the one hand a naked appeal to nature and rejection of societal evolution (in this case to something post-imperialism/post-consumerism), and on the other an appeal to some ascended nature defined by whatever it is we do that other animals don't.
@@theregalproletariat "The smartest cooperate..." they literally do not. They all compete. At least all of the apex ones. Unless you're talking about being akin to a symbiotic parasite.
A Douglas Adams quote springs to mind: "Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons."
sounds valid until i realise human can commit genocide on the dolphins but the opposite dont seem can happen, that is when we know who is more "intelligent".
people who say that quaritch is a bad villain or whatever are looking to deep. he doesn’t need trauma, he’s just a hateful man. and in atwow, when (old) quaritch tells him that his target is jake sully, he thinks nothing of it and just continues with this thought all the way through. when he says that they will watch their sun die out and their world burn is just full of hatred that we never got in the original theatrical release. kinda makes his motives more clear, he doesn’t care about anything , anyone, he just wants the resources and to leave, no matter the lives cost. i wonder if in future avatar movies quaritch will maybe realize that he didn’t think too hard about why his target was jake and will maybe just go back to his resource/habitat motive haha
This speech would have developed his character and completely flipped the plot of Avatar turning the Navi from the noble savage into the pathetic, floundering natives of a static culture. And all of their defenders from heroes into fools.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than the Na'vi because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, WMDs and so on - while all the Na'vi had ever done was muck about in their forests having a good time.
But conversely, the Na'vi had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons.
@@theregalproletariat The Dunning Kruger Effect for the Navi. Failing to discover or build is objective proof of a static dull culture.
@@Thunderbird-2 The humans of Avatar fucking killed Earth.
They turned into an industrialised, polluted slum for the average person.
And now they're bringing that to Pandora? They can eff off.
@@theregalproletariat to the age of Avatar universe, they have made FTL travel possible, and maybe even space mining and orbital habitats, the real problem wasn't that humanity has exhausted resources on earth, but they have mismanagement and were seeking a fast solution for it, they were more than capable to fix the problem, but it would have taken a hit to their economical and societal system, just like in the crisis of 2008 the banking and federal system were able to let the bubble pop and economy fix by itself and lost trillion of dollars, but no, they just patched up and let it for another day so they don't get important losses.
@@Thunderbird-2 exactly they don't get points for being failures
If any animal could do what humans do, they would. Dominating the ecosystem is every species' DREAM. Even chimps, our closest genetic relatives, have the capacity for cruelty, tool use, and war. It is only our philosophy and morality that keeps us in check, and that's what sets us apart.
fucking a.
Domination? Really?
Every species competes.
The smartest cooperate...
@@theregalproletariat "Negotiation is best done from a position of power"
Except the argument here is that scaling up those basic animal instincts indefinitely and unconditionally, while treating our philosophy and morality as simply self-validating extensions of it, is the "special spark" of a TRUUUUUE civilization. On the one hand a naked appeal to nature and rejection of societal evolution (in this case to something post-imperialism/post-consumerism), and on the other an appeal to some ascended nature defined by whatever it is we do that other animals don't.
@@theregalproletariat "The smartest cooperate..." they literally do not. They all compete. At least all of the apex ones. Unless you're talking about being akin to a symbiotic parasite.
Having Quaritch say this is next level, I love AI. Also, based.
God I love mankind
The stars are humanity's birthright.
Go Starship!!
We were made for the stars
You tell em Colonel.
A Douglas Adams quote springs to mind:
"Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.
But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons."
Inb4 the witty replies that are just restating the assertion being skewered
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"
The Dolphin Species when departing Earth.
sounds valid until i realise human can commit genocide on the dolphins but the opposite dont seem can happen, that is when we know who is more "intelligent".
Completely ignoring that Dolphins and Mankind aren't alike. To go meta, Dolphins *can't* build wonders. And they are literally just dumb animals.
@@NoNameChanel-mv6jv why would you want to commit genocide?
BASED!
RDA ALL THE WAY!🦅
The only mistake the humans in avatar made was deciding to not glass the navi from orbit
Based
You should provide a little more context about the origin of this. It's from a rather old Warhammer/Avatar crossover fanfic...
Yeah, sounds like something the imperium would say
well tell us what fic it is homie
What fanfic was it from?
@@emperorclaudius5499 the only one I could find doesn’t have it some say it’s from an old sci-fi book pretty sure the fan fictions lost to time
Amazing how a fan fiction writer can write better villains and dialogue than actual writers in Hollywood.
We will conquer
*GLORY TO MANKIND.*
where'd you find these stuff?
Where did this come from?
It came from I believe Warhammer 40,000 and avatar crossover fanfiction this is just having a Quaritch say this
I heard it's from 4chan. And knowing how 4chan works I'm inclined to believe this rumor.
It’s from 1d4chan
He said it in the movie
Nope @@Conici_AU
We are made in god's image.
Very impressive.
people who say that quaritch is a bad villain or whatever are looking to deep. he doesn’t need trauma, he’s just a hateful man. and in atwow, when (old) quaritch tells him that his target is jake sully, he thinks nothing of it and just continues with this thought all the way through. when he says that they will watch their sun die out and their world burn is just full of hatred that we never got in the original theatrical release. kinda makes his motives more clear, he doesn’t care about anything , anyone, he just wants the resources and to leave, no matter the lives cost. i wonder if in future avatar movies quaritch will maybe realize that he didn’t think too hard about why his target was jake and will maybe just go back to his resource/habitat motive haha
This is a good start, but it needs way more nuance and depth. Only a human (literally) could deliver the raw emotion needed for this rhetoric.
Burn
I do not condone this message.
Quiet brainlet.
I condone this message, he’s right. Humans #1
@@ethangonzales8230 i don't!!! humanity needs to respect nature and not everything needs to be extreme consumerism while destroying our earth
I do
@@zello4075 You too brainrot