1960- Madill 009 yarder -A mystery of history

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @ZarDos001
    @ZarDos001 8 років тому +84

    I know this yarder!! Just seeing her again brings back some great memories. She was the first yarder I set chockers on in '72.
    Later, I pulled rigging on her. Gustaff Liske was the Yarder Enginer and still lives at the Lake. Dobbie Summerville the Hook Tender and last I heard was in an old people's home at the Lake. John Svetich (Scabby John) was the Bull Bucker and lives in Duncan. Those men will recognize her and probably add a lot more about her history. I'm not sure but I think the spar was 100' and the main line 1 1/4". It's been 45 years :-)
    On average we could get about 195 logs a day. She was owned by TW McKenzie Logging (Buster McKenzie, Manager), now Pacific Logging. We had her setup on Len's Main in those days but it looks like she is mothballed (abandonded) on the Shaw Creek side.
    I had the pleasure of driving her on one move. Inside the front cab was still army green. As I recall Gus told me she was built on an old tank retriever chasis. It's the only yarder I have ever seen where driving controls were in the front. Kind of an experience to take those sticks in your hands and step on the gas and feel her lurch forward. Most of the other Madill's McKenzie's owner were controlled from the enginer's cab when we moved them.
    Nice memory, thanks for caring about this old lady of logging and for the video.

  • @diane9247
    @diane9247 9 років тому +12

    "Old logging stuff always puts up a fight." Great remark at the end! Looking at the stand-up operator's spot surrounded by those huge moving parts, it's astonishing how hazardous this old stuff was just to operate. As always, a great video.

    • @skadill
      @skadill  9 років тому +2

      +diane9247 thanks for the look!

  • @kevinhillman1201
    @kevinhillman1201 10 років тому +4

    The Madill, on tracks, brought back memories of when I worked with a crew on one in the mid to late 70's at Stave Lake.

  • @w.w.2restorations.vehicles698
    @w.w.2restorations.vehicles698 11 років тому +17

    Great find and video. I own 4 acres on Gabriolla Is. and have to drive through Nanaimo to take the ferry over. I always loved seeing the logging trucks when I was a kid. I have been restoring WW2 military vehicles for almost 20 years. That yarder was built on a 1944 Allis-Chalmers M-6 High Speed Artillery Tractor. It towed the 155 mm gun. It was powered by twin Waukesha 6 cyl. engines, 190 brake horse power each. Fighting weight was 76,000 lbs. Towed load was 50,000 lbs.

    • @skadill
      @skadill  11 років тому +10

      Well,that's more than the rest of us know about the bottom half of this thing,glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jordanfc8181
    @jordanfc8181 10 років тому +7

    I would love to hear these things start. May take quite awhile but most liikely worth it in the end.

  • @jeffrykopis5468
    @jeffrykopis5468 2 роки тому +2

    Anywhere else, stuff like this would've been scrapped years ago. That's the cool and unique thing about Vancouver Island. It would cost more to get these machines off the island than they're worth, so they'll be there till they turn to dust.

  • @choatelodge
    @choatelodge 12 років тому +4

    Holy smoke, a 90 with a deck level operator cage, Gearmatic, band brakes and hand frictions! That operator was workin'!
    It's doubtful someone would go to that elaborate a job to make a temporary pad there just to set it on to wait for the barge, I'll bet it was piped up right there and used to swing wood to the beach, like you say. Well put to bed too, someone intended to take it out of there

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +2

    For sure,will be a great documentary from sit to salvage,keep me posted,thanks Daryl!

  • @MrSkaudun
    @MrSkaudun 12 років тому +4

    that give me tears in my eyes! great film of old warriors. work in the logging buisness in norway and love old logging machine! keep up on the good work!

  • @Maine_Railfan
    @Maine_Railfan 8 років тому +3

    Great video! Its always nice to see these old machines still around.

  • @jusportel
    @jusportel 12 років тому +3

    That one seriously belongs at the museum in Duncan, it is probably the earliest surviving Madill spar. Notice the guyline drums are all down low, that was before they put the gear reduction on the two front quarters. Not too many had the M6 carrier with original Army cab either.

  • @JonesDieselPerforman
    @JonesDieselPerforman 13 років тому +1

    I've seen that yarder so many times from the other side of Stave and have always wanted to get a closer look.Thank you for sharing,Todd!

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +4

    Thanks!yes,each piece represents wins and defeats for old company's,peoples first,worst or best job experiences,and thousand of untold memories and stories of thrill,misery,and danger.

    • @ZarDos001
      @ZarDos001 3 роки тому +1

      High Lead Logging is the second most dangerous job in the world. More than a few stories of thrills (near misses), misery and much danger, expected and SURPRISE!

    • @geoffbell166
      @geoffbell166 3 роки тому

      You need brains and heart and a little luck in the logging game,some days when you pulling strawline in the rain and cold,you think i going to git me a job back truck driving and then when the suns out the logs are going up the hill,you think man this a great job!?

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch 11 років тому +2

    Thank you.
    i 've searched a long time what could have been the base of this thing.
    The tracks and all the rolling parts looked military to me as soon as saw them.

  • @loatherd
    @loatherd 13 років тому +3

    I love it .I used to visit derelict power stations. I just love industrial entropy.

  • @GianfrancoFronzi
    @GianfrancoFronzi 10 років тому +2

    Nice video , I like it because It reminds me of our forest lake areas here in the Canadian shield . I've come across some interesting stuff way up back . Like old trappers cabins and logging and mining machinery .
    I could smell the cedar as I watched this .

  • @jasonskinner1555
    @jasonskinner1555 8 років тому +8

    I wish someone would restore thatbeast it looks awesome!

  • @beardo52
    @beardo52 10 років тому +5

    The M-4 Sherman tank was built in huge numbers, and after the War so many component assemblies were available that heavy equipment MFG 's bought them cheaply, and used them in their machinery. Differentials, final drives, suspension stations, tracks, all easily procured.

    • @ZarDos001
      @ZarDos001 3 роки тому +1

      This yarder was made form an old "Tank Retriever". That's why the driver area is not enclosed or armored. The video mentions that sometimes the tower was filled with water. True. This was done during fire season. That tower would hold 1500 gallons and with the 100 foot head the water had a LOT of pressure when you attached a fire hose. Mostly we used it to fill out Wafax back tanks and for safety in case we got a fire near the landing from the Mainline or Haul-back chaffing on a log or stump.

  • @montwolfman
    @montwolfman 12 років тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to post this clip. Wish I were there.

  • @monoamradio2309
    @monoamradio2309 9 років тому +15

    This is a very old Madill, not a standard 009. Priceless piece of history. In this times, every Madill yarder was unique. Customer purchased own hoist unit (from Washington IronWorks, Tyee, Skagit.....) and undercarriage. Ex-military vehicles like this M6 Hi-speed tractor or M26 Dragon Wagon were often used. Carrier and hoist were delivered to S. Madill factory, where they put it together, added the steel tower "Spar 009" and guyline setup.

  • @TheMrKeys
    @TheMrKeys 2 роки тому +2

    It’s been 10 years. Time for a follow up on the old girl.

    • @Connor4x4
      @Connor4x4 6 місяців тому

      12 and a half years as of now.
      June, 9th 2024.
      Be sweet to see a follow up on the old girl.

  • @mred9768
    @mred9768 Рік тому

    One of my favorites, l have to look it up and watch it from time to time

  • @DanielBoonesloggingvideos
    @DanielBoonesloggingvideos 13 років тому +2

    Awesome Todd thank you!!! Hopefully some day I can bump into some stuff like this up north

  • @elijahchavers
    @elijahchavers 12 років тому +1

    That thing is killer! I live on the gulf coast in Alabama. Had no idea y'all still had dinosaurs. VERY COOL. Awesome video.

  • @super8car
    @super8car 11 років тому

    I love watching your videos. These machines were peoples livelihoods. I could imagine operators got to know each ones nuances and behavior, something they likely havent forgotten to this day. It must be so exciting to come across them.

  • @rayquigley1327
    @rayquigley1327 10 років тому +2

    Very Interesting, I find these videos to be really educational as well as enjoyable. Thanks!

    • @skadill
      @skadill  10 років тому

      Ray Quigley Glad you like them!

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +4

    Thanks a bunch,glad you like some of this strange stuff too.

  • @shewey13
    @shewey13 12 років тому +2

    The carrier is a heavy artillary tractor from WWII.They utilized some of the same components.The cab appears to be basicly unmodified.These tractors were faster and could carry more soldiers and ammo than the crawlers used .

  • @markcapps1959
    @markcapps1959 Рік тому

    What memories this brings spent many hours day's and weeks pull in riggen setting chockers and watching these old school girl's pulling trophy size sitka spruce and western hemlock in the glory days of the 70s in SE Alaska back in the real high lead one whistle go and run loved it

  • @floriane450
    @floriane450 6 років тому +3

    It’s crazy, you are crazy 😃 beautifull vidéo again, best regard from France

    • @skadill
      @skadill  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @uhfnutbar1
    @uhfnutbar1 10 років тому +10

    Ill never understand why people have to vandalize things . but i guess that just to much to ask of people.

  • @jasonrichardson4522
    @jasonrichardson4522 9 років тому +4

    It's sitting on the logs so that it doesn't sink into the ground/mud and also won't freeze to the ground in the winter.

    • @diane9247
      @diane9247 9 років тому +2

      +Jason Richardson - I guess that indicates the owner thought he was coming back to get it.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +6

    Yes,but the dam was made in the 1910's.It was floated up here on a barge years ago.

    • @texasrox2010
      @texasrox2010 3 роки тому

      Why the two engines on that thing?

    • @nellsonstout7001
      @nellsonstout7001 3 роки тому

      @@texasrox2010 one for the undercarriage and one for the yarder itself

  • @MrThenry1988
    @MrThenry1988 8 років тому +7

    good job.
    I bet i could have the Cummins running in in an hour as long as it hasn't been under water or had water in it.
    hydraulic pumps and motors would likely be froze up.
    that value laying 30 yards away would cost a grand to get going.
    probably wouldn't be a hydraulic hose on it now that would hold any pressure.
    I bet the track would roll. everything that's involved in driving it would be froze up.
    in the end it wouldn't be worth much. couldn't use it today without a bunch of shields.
    you might get lucky if a guy that hit the lottery ran it many years ago and really wanted it to put in his living room.

    • @skadill
      @skadill  8 років тому +2

      +Tim Henry Its a good conversation piece/curiosity,but its day of contributing to the economy may well be long behind it.

  • @TheRjjrjjr
    @TheRjjrjjr 12 років тому

    Thank you! I obviously know NOTHING about logging. . . now I know what that old guy did for a living.

  • @vulcanlogic4480
    @vulcanlogic4480 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve worked on these machines.
    It’s a hellva thing to be good at.

    • @keepontruckinoutlawlife1248
      @keepontruckinoutlawlife1248 3 роки тому

      Amazing in bc I take it?

    • @vulcanlogic4480
      @vulcanlogic4480 3 роки тому

      @@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248
      probably.
      I got acquainted with loggers and what they could do to a machine in Washington, made some money at it in Alaska, and set up shop back in my hometown.
      The grease, frictions and smoke is an acquired taste.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +3

    thanks,appreciate you watching,take care.

  • @tarzanzardoz007
    @tarzanzardoz007 11 років тому +3

    absolutely amazing!

  • @MrRoberoni117
    @MrRoberoni117 12 років тому +1

    Just awesome footage. I love this channel!

  • @kevingilbert9695
    @kevingilbert9695 2 роки тому

    Glad you are saving these machines for posterity. They will never make these old guys again.

  • @brucew44guns
    @brucew44guns 11 років тому +5

    I've fueled those old Madills in the woods back in the day, pretty sure I recall those built on a tank chassis. The parts would be expensive and perhaps hard to find for the tank part on the bottom.

    • @ryanbecker7283
      @ryanbecker7283 10 років тому

      ea they are thats a m4 sherman chassis

    • @davvvvo
      @davvvvo 10 років тому

      Ryan Becker i wonder if it was finished after the war or was ever used in combat (back when it was used for the sherman and not the machine)

    • @ryanbecker7283
      @ryanbecker7283 10 років тому

      probly was and then converted to that

    • @thehagshow3049
      @thehagshow3049 4 роки тому

      Yeah you can tell from the sprocket it’s a Sherman

  • @beardo52
    @beardo52 11 років тому

    Surplus parts were readily available, and many companies purchased suspension stations, transmission/Final drive assemblies, and built them into their own designs. Logging machinery was a popular use of these components.

  • @adbombphoto1
    @adbombphoto1 12 років тому

    This was truelly a treat! Someday I'll have to come with you on an adventure. Some stuff still in the bush down here on CA but not much. Mostly bits and pieces and much is on gated land.
    Chasing a few turns on a real working BU99 was surely a treat for this city born kid though!
    Keep the videos coming!

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +3

    Transported by barge as much BC remote location camps an logging operations used to be accessed.It's in the southwest corner of BC Canada

  • @creatorTWin
    @creatorTWin 11 років тому

    Awesome video, love this sort of abandoned machine.

  • @mantis47354
    @mantis47354 11 років тому +1

    Would be neat to see it restored for history and posterity!!

  • @SuperKONR
    @SuperKONR 10 років тому +3

    That's awesome, I wonder if everything would still work.

  • @idreamofdragonso5677
    @idreamofdragonso5677 8 років тому +8

    Now time to restore it

  • @ThePsychodad2
    @ThePsychodad2 11 років тому +1

    I worked on a Madill with a Sherman tank carrier back in 1986 in just out of Spuzzum in the Siwash and Anderson creek area for Cattermole timber out of Chilliwack BC top speed was about 6 mph longest move to a setting was usually not more than a mile or two otherwise we would low bed it was too slow and hard on the tracks to move any great distance.

  • @MrThenry1988
    @MrThenry1988 8 років тому +2

    still love it. they had to bring that in on a barge.

  • @mxguy1276
    @mxguy1276 11 років тому +1

    Love stuff like this, thanks for sharing

  • @choatelodge
    @choatelodge 12 років тому +1

    Ran a lot of 009's but I never saw a Madill hand jammer! That's right, no air controls. Before the Witchita era looks like, it's got band brakes. Has a Gearmatic too.
    I'll bet this one was piped down to move, and before it was moved some manager probably decided that it was too slow and old to be worth barging it to another job, and they just left it where it sat cribbed up like that. I'll bet that lower motor ran the hydraulic pump to run the jacks, guy line winches, and bullprick cylinder.

  • @jusportel
    @jusportel 12 років тому +1

    So that one was sold to Western Forest Industries in 1960. I think I just might have a picture of it when it was brand new, well, a year old anyway. Got to check my slides.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +1

    thanks,glad you enjoyed it.

  • @solamagun
    @solamagun 11 років тому +1

    Nice video. Good walk around w/o any excessive, unnecessary talk. Well done.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  13 років тому +2

    @tcbsrcs I've been told it has a bad steering clutch or final drive on one side

  • @Glenstrom
    @Glenstrom 11 років тому +2

    Was going to ask where this was, thought it looked like Stave Lake - then I see in the comments it is. I did a timber sale in Stave, Lost Creek on the east side, many years ago.
    I've ran a Madill with a Skagit winch on it, but not a hand jammer.

  • @andrewkillen677
    @andrewkillen677 6 років тому +3

    Why did they abandoned it seems like a good piece just left to rot

  • @dav3fk
    @dav3fk 10 років тому +7

    Deserves to run.
    But, what old engine doesn't?

  • @kainenmattison2987
    @kainenmattison2987 10 років тому +4

    I always wonder the circumstances of a piece of equipment like this being left out in the woods. Why wouldnt the company even if it was broken pull it out when they were finished?

    • @ernestmurphy3898
      @ernestmurphy3898 8 років тому +2

      When you bid a job your bid includes the use of equipment and the prorated life and mean times between failures is evaluated. Equipment replacement is generally not in the budget unless it is a multi year job.. the Forestry dept would have contracts regarding the looging that was done in the area. I'm going out on a skinny limb here, to say the owner may have passed on, and the will to bring her back home, was never found, by who was left.

  • @jusportel
    @jusportel 11 років тому +1

    no, that is a M6 High Speed tractor. They towed the big artillery late in the war. Built by Allis Chalmers.

  • @iamrichrocker
    @iamrichrocker 9 років тому +6

    Sir..been awhile since you posted this video..did you glean any information on how this monster got out there? love a mystery..thx..

    • @ZarDos001
      @ZarDos001 3 роки тому

      Don't know how she got there but knew this yarder well.

  • @ThePaulgregg
    @ThePaulgregg 10 років тому +6

    Imagine the foresight genius of the original maker of this machine...

    • @ernestmurphy3898
      @ernestmurphy3898 8 років тому

      If ya follow the beginning of Logging you will understand this machine was just an upgrade from the previous one and so it goes in process control.

    • @ThePaulgregg
      @ThePaulgregg 8 років тому

      Ernest Murphy Yes certainly most seemingly modern inventions are upgrades of less sophisticated crude process or function. Agreed.

    • @ernestmurphy3898
      @ernestmurphy3898 8 років тому

      Need, is the mother of invention and this is one big mother, who's parts are made up of formerly successful mechanized products with proven reliability.

  • @kennethrobinson11231
    @kennethrobinson11231 8 років тому +4

    The lower engine is a Ford. Like 401,477,534.

  • @drewbayless3912
    @drewbayless3912 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like it’s on a old m4a1 Sherman tank chasis

  • @jingorat
    @jingorat 9 років тому +8

    back when men were men and machines were machines

  • @LoweredthGenF
    @LoweredthGenF 10 років тому +6

    Someone took the carb off that big block now its ruined.

  • @wes11bravo
    @wes11bravo 10 років тому +6

    It's built on an M6 Artillery Tractor.

    • @dieselman8v923
      @dieselman8v923 10 років тому +2

      I thought that looked like military tracked vehicle U/C.

    • @briscollama2521
      @briscollama2521 10 років тому +1

      Cool, Thx. I was wondering about that.

    • @TheSpy149
      @TheSpy149 9 років тому

      and it looks like a tank barrel on a big dump truck or crane truck

    • @nellsonstout7001
      @nellsonstout7001 7 років тому +1

      Dieselman8v92 a lot of yarders were in fact because after ww2 the tanks or artillery tractors in this case were cheap

  • @Whatsintheshop
    @Whatsintheshop 12 років тому +2

    This looks like the one I see abandoned at the side of a Lake on Vancouver Island when I'm out ATVing. Always wonder why they just abandoned equipment like that.

  • @olavh.flensborg9654
    @olavh.flensborg9654 9 років тому +3

    This is the machine that pulls the wood from wher it did get copd down

  • @richardtodd42
    @richardtodd42 6 років тому

    my grandfather was a machinist at madill in nanaimo during that time so likely his work is in this machine.

  • @georgerenton965
    @georgerenton965 5 місяців тому

    It was hard to see, but I’m guessing it had a PT pump on the Cummins ? It would be nice to hear it barking under load at 1800. Thanks for making the effort.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +1

    It's still there,Is aw it myself from across the water last thursday again.It in B.C southcoast

  • @tractortom401
    @tractortom401 13 років тому +1

    sherman tracks, awesome video

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому

    If you type in 'Madill 009 Yarder' on my channel search bar you can see a 1964 one restored at the forest museum.

  • @ramairgto72
    @ramairgto72 11 років тому +6

    What is this? .... I think we need to get this running!

    • @skadill
      @skadill  11 років тому +1

      It's a high lead logging tower/mobile spar tree.

    • @punhoss
      @punhoss 11 років тому

      skadill . Can you be more specific? I'm no logger

    • @skadill
      @skadill  11 років тому +1

      type in 'madill 009' on my youtube channel and you'll see

    • @edwardrumming3516
      @edwardrumming3516 11 років тому

      skadill . I worked for S. Madill Ltd. for 26 years. they never made 009 Yarders until 1965. That was the year I started there on yarder production. Ted R.

  • @Iamhowboutit
    @Iamhowboutit 10 років тому

    Nice Video this a real early 09 I have worked on an ran many never seen one without a upper cab or one with a lower engine and not a down drive box

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +1

    Glad you liked it!

  • @openstationloggingkevinbak4625
    @openstationloggingkevinbak4625 6 років тому +1

    I know this is an older post but do they ever go back and log again in the area where some of these are left or do they just let them rust away ?

  • @laid-backgarage4412
    @laid-backgarage4412 9 років тому +3

    Be cool if it could be made operational again

  • @Chezgee7
    @Chezgee7 12 років тому +1

    so quiet out there. couldn't help thinking what a racket that thing made when it was in operation.

  • @MrBeboopman
    @MrBeboopman 10 років тому +2

    Strangely creepy but fascinating !!!! .... and subbed. Hello from Ireland :)

  • @bryansmith9255
    @bryansmith9255 11 років тому

    Madill used to build yarders on Sherman tanks chassis. Alot of them still run strong

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому

    Nothing yet,but It's days are numbered.

  • @John420Dirt
    @John420Dirt 12 років тому +1

    this up by port alberni??

  • @altecman21
    @altecman21 11 років тому

    Liked this one!! Quite interesting!!

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +1

    At around 55 tons or more,it would stuck as soon as is turned off gravel road.

  • @jeremylee99100
    @jeremylee99100 13 років тому +1

    @forkdriver500 its safe from the cuting touch though so its not all bad

  • @roddomenko1658
    @roddomenko1658 8 років тому

    i used to work on madill yarders in the late 70. up in naka creek on vancouver isle

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 11 років тому +4

    Anything that could be carried off has been stripped out. That looks like a Sherman tank chassis under it.

    • @ernestmurphy3898
      @ernestmurphy3898 8 років тому +2

      probly the guy who was yarding the stuff off had enough freeboard for himself and had to leave the valve bank behind. We can hope he sank from a passing canoe, and had to swim back.

  • @LinnTractorNut
    @LinnTractorNut 13 років тому

    Would make a great camp. Sometimes machinery got abandonned when the logger was behind on payments and moved it around to prevent repo or just to tick off the guy they owed money to. There is an old PACCAR style Athey tracked log arch back in the central Adirondacks that was hidden, then a state crew with a bulldozer doing trail work hooked on to drag it out but diverted to another project and went out via Cedar River Flow leaving it miles further back in.

  • @ericlakota6512
    @ericlakota6512 3 роки тому

    Its worth the work the mine explore in bc went to old steam shovel and the side of a river found by a plane 20 years ago its on youtube i love ones like this forgoten to time looks like its on a sherman tank old vietnam tank

    • @skadill
      @skadill  3 роки тому

      probably the shovel i filmed

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +1

    Its a complete high lead logging yarder/Tower

  • @Kactapuss
    @Kactapuss 11 років тому

    Anybody ever help you out based on those serials you recorded? I'd love to know more history on this beast. Thanks for taking us along.

  • @JACKALBACK
    @JACKALBACK 11 років тому +1

    where was it sitting at.

  • @TheRjjrjjr
    @TheRjjrjjr 12 років тому

    Do any of you think there is video of one of these in operation? I'd love to see that.

  • @jesserice2823
    @jesserice2823 11 років тому +1

    This unit is built on the m6 high speed tractor hull. This unit was bought by corrections Canada, It was barged in over 30 years ago and set up to teach inmates from the local prisons logging. They used it to pull logs out of the river at the bottom of the lake. This unit has been seen by many people and people have gone and taken lots of parts from it unfortunately. If anyone knows of any more of this type of hull please let me know.

  • @frostythesnowdragon3170
    @frostythesnowdragon3170 9 років тому +1

    I think it's still useable idk how many parts are missing tho

  • @skadill
    @skadill  11 років тому +1

    Just with the year and model, I think its one of the earliest comments below.

  • @skadill
    @skadill  12 років тому +2

    Yes,that's all accurate info you've got there.