Joe Louis was a great fighter. I don't think that he ever boasted, unlike Cassius Clay who was always that loud mouth like Rocky Marciano stated. This fight should not have happened, but just like he said 'I needed the money' Joe had deep respect for Rocky and they really were good friends. Two of my favorites and of course Big George Foreman!
Ali was actually very humble in real life. All the trash talk was just to put bums on seats, and no one can deny he was the most charismatic boxer of all time.
A real brother or mother feels the truth and tells the truth God bless both these guys even today as in earth and heaven Rocky cried after he got em God wow!!!
@@The_Durango_Kid Tyson, Ali, Louis all respected Marciano. Marciano was who they compared Tyson to coming up and he was humbled by the comparison. Furthermore Marciano helped out Louis financially when he was going through difficult times.
@@ryanlynch290 Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
Wow, I was convinced. How tough and realistic these men were then, listen to a modern boxer talking after a loss (take The Bronze Bomber) and listen to the excuses, the tantrum and blaming others like a child as opposed to this MAN taking a loss on the chin (literally) and with endless dignity. Joe was the greatest HW and puncher of all time in my opinion.
To be fair, Joe was not above attributing that loss to his age. But I think I was right. For the first few rounds I think we saw what this fight would have looked like with both in their primes. But I do think Joe started to gas in the 7th or 8th.
How cool is listening to this? Rocky was a tiny, heavyweight. The Brown Bomber was past his prime in this fight. It was refreshing to hear him being honest with himself at that moment.
@@herefortheluls2267 Yes! Thanks for watching and providing feedback. I may have “Joe” read more stories from his book. He goes into great details on most of his fights. He had an excellent memory.
@@DuggerManMuhammad Ali, "Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard *unrecognizable* folks in Africa." Cosell, "But you think you could have beaten him too?" Ali, "Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas *especially those deceased.* Marciano and I were good friends, *but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him,* probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, *it's just up to the imagination.* Cosell, " You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility." Ali, "Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. *He wasn't as great as me,* wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man *just pretending* and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, *he probably wouldn't...* *that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"* Later though in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore, and Charles would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. ((( *Why was the most important part removed?? Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore, and Charles would've beat Marciano"!!!* ))) ABC'S WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS {MUHAMMAD ALI VERSUS THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME; DAYTONA 500} Summary: This edition concludes the segment "Muhammad Ali versus the Greatest Heavyweight Champions of All Time" in which Howard Cosell and Muhammad Ali discuss the careers of great boxers. In this final portion, Cosell, with world heavyweight champion Ali at Ali's Deer Lake, Pa., training camp, discusses fight films involving these fighters: Joe Louis, Max Schmeling, Billy Conn, Ezzard Charles, Pat Valentino, and Jersey Joe Walcott. Dave Diles reports with a sports news update on the final lap of the Daytona 500 automobile race as Bill Flemming narrates the tape of the finish. Ali and Cosell resume their discussion of fight films involving the following fighters: Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, and Rocky Marciano. ABC February 15, 1976 Sunday 8½ hrs. (Dave Diles explains the entire 8½ hrs. coverage *@ 1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut) Moral of the story is so much of what Ali actually said about Rocky has been removed!!! This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!!! Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information!!!
Muhammad Ali, "Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard *unrecognizable* folks in Africa." Cosell, "But you think you could have beaten him too?" Ali, "Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination. Cosell, " You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility." Ali, "Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!" Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. ((( *Why was the most important part removed?? Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano"!!!* ))) ABC'S WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS {MUHAMMAD ALI VERSUS THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME; DAYTONA 500} Summary: This edition concludes the segment "Muhammad Ali versus the Greatest Heavyweight Champions of All Time" in which Howard Cosell and Muhammad Ali discuss the careers of great boxers. In this final portion, Cosell, with world heavyweight champion Ali at Ali's Deer Lake, Pa., training camp, discusses fight films involving these fighters: Joe Louis, Max Schmeling, Billy Conn, Ezzard Charles, Pat Valentino, and Jersey Joe Walcott. Dave Diles reports with a sports news update on the final lap of the Daytona 500 automobile race as Bill Flemming narrates the tape of the finish. Ali and Cosell resume their discussion of fight films involving the following fighters: Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, and Rocky Marciano. ABC February 15, 1976 Sunday 8 ½ hrs. (Dave Diles explains the entire 8 ½ hrs. coverage *@ 1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut) ((( Moral of the story is so much of what Ali actually said about Rocky has been removed!!! This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!!! Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades!!! The honest truth is Rocky uploaders removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda!!! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano!!!* Why not just use Rocky's resume to defend him instead of hiding vital information? Well, because Rocky's resume is utter Horseshirt, that's why!!! Y'all can order copies *@ Archival Television Audio Inc.* just type in Muhammad Ali. 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore Louis Conn. *"A prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano."* - Muhammad Ali, February 15 1976 )))
he couldnt beat tiger ted lowery who was robbed on both occasions by corrupt refereeing marciano however hard he tried could never knock ted lowery down in 30 rounds of boxing marciano went the distance with ted lowery and was awarded the decision by corrupt judging many of the boxing and sport writers wrote about how disgraceful and corrupt it was that marciano got the nod .Tiger Ted Lowery talkss about how how was robbed of the win he beat marciano ass both times and he looked a mess yet was awarded the decision. a robbery and disgraceful
Ali said before he passed it would be very difficult to beat Rocky. He said if he fought him three times he would probably win once the others he wasn't sure. Though jersey Joe had him beat late in the 14th I believe but Rocky knocked him out. He knew he was down on points.
Ali said before he passed it would be very difficult to beat Rocky. He said if he fought him three times he would probably win once the others he wasn't sure. Though jersey Joe had him beat late in the 14th I believe but Rocky knocked him out. He knew he was down on points.
@@doug3819 Muhammad Ali would have TOYED with slow , flat footed Marciano. Cut him to ribbons. And George Foreman would have sent ragdolled him and sent him to the Brockton hospital.
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades: Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL* Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?* Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much! Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf. Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!! Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D. Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. To continue claiming he was the Greatest or even top 10 Greatest Heavyweight is absurd. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Joe Louis and Lee Savold fights really doesn't even deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous. Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't. *1)* Harold Johnson *2)* Oakland Billy Smith *3)* Yolande Pompey *4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd *5)* Clarence Henry *6)* Joey Maxim *7)* Marty Marshall *8)* Bob Satterfield *9)* Jimmy Bivins *10)* Lloyd Marshall *11)* Nino Valdes Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these; Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1) Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1) Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3) John Edwards (Career Record 1-2) Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7) Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3) Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14) Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10) Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13) Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15) Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13) Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7) James Connoly (Career Record 12-9) Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12) Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12) Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16) Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41) Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21) according to BoxRec and the Providence Journal, *"Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round and Eatman went down, THOUGH IT DIDN'T APPEAR HE WAS HIT"* Not only did Eldridge take a-dive vs. Rocky but he had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an F-LEVEL diver who had just lost 8 fights? It's clear as day Mafia Boss Carbo and underboss Al Weill cherry picked and padded Rocky's resume! Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses. Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)* Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses. Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses. Immediately *((same day))* after 170-lb diver Eddie Ross was supposedly KO'd by Marciano he drove from Rhode Island Providence to Quebec City Quebec -- 8 hr 15 min 465.9 mi via I-93 N inorder to fight 160-lb Billy Sparks.. ( *"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."* --BoxRec and Providence Journal ) Inspect Eddie's resume, it's hilarious! None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
Emanuel Steward was an American boxer, trainer and proven boxing Genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career. What did Emanuel have to say about Marciano? He said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
This video doesn’t quite add up for me. I read Joe Louis’s book years ago and he admitted he had underestimated Marciano. Watching Joe Louis fight on 10/26/51 was never a pretty site. He should have retired in 1948, as planned, and was fighting after that for financial debts, sadly. Joe could still jab, and he did duck some of Marciano’s punches. But he had no timing and virtually no combinations. How can you win a fight against a tough slugger with only one hand? Watch Louis vs Galento in 1939, along with numerous other fights to see his brilliant two-handed attacks. If Joe did win any rounds, I’m not sure why. It seemed as if Marciano had his number and was just fine waiting to go for the KO. There was no way the Joe Louis of October, 1951, could ever have won that mismatch. Louis ended up saying Marciano was the greatest champion in the first half of the century. (Frankly, I think Louis was. If he had stayed retired in 1948 it would’ve been more obvious.)
Didn't Louis know from training camp that his conditioning was no longer there? He should have poured everything he had into taking Marciano out early.
He could,nt set up because rock did .nt let him set up and he would,ve got k.o.d sooner if he would have tried that.you guy,s don't understand how good and tough and smart Rocco was. Their will never be another.
Thoroughly look at Joe Louis... he is definitely past his PRIME. Although Joe Louis fought 8 guys before he fought Rocky Marciano, NONE of those fighters were in the top 10 as contenders. Joe Louis did this for the MONEY to pay the IRS. Because Joe Louis was in debt due to those numerous exhibition fights, his spendings and taxes. Joe Louis would NOT back out of the fight, yet Louis was washed up. 🚫🚑
After retirement my dad used to go to the swap meet to look for antiques and collectables . He picked up a sports award booklet that had a bunch of sports stars signatures on the front page of the booklet. On the the front page we've identified Rocky Marciano , Jackie Robinson , Jessie Owens , and a bunch more that we were not familiar with. Rocky Marciano wasn't supposed to be there , but he showed up to receive the award for a friend who couldn't attend.
@@mikemilliken3596*Ali was too big, too fast, too strong, way too smart and could take the hardest punch ever. Muhammad Ali was and will always be the greatest Heavyweight champion of all-time past and present and future. His best was better than anyone's best. Over hyped 5' 9" 184 lb midget-man would have been humiliated.*
@@mikemilliken3596 *Little Rocky backed up everyone bcz they let him cheat. Little Rocky wouldn't be allowed to fight that way today! Little Rocky would charge in with his head below his opponents waist then raise up and intentionally hit his opponent under the chin with the top of his head.*
Prime Louis got knocked down by Tony Galento. He was never known for his defensive prowess. Rocky had a better chin and better endurance. I’d favor him in 15 rd fight.
Joe Louis was an amazing champion 🏆 and amazing man
Joe was one of the absolute greatest and classiest
Joe Louis was a great fighter. I don't think that he ever boasted, unlike Cassius Clay who was always that loud mouth like Rocky Marciano stated. This fight should not have happened, but just like he said 'I needed the money' Joe had deep respect for Rocky and they really were good friends. Two of my favorites and of course Big George Foreman!
Thanks a lot for your reaction! Its a pleasure to know that there's still real fight fans out there
Foreman says that Archie told him his arms hurt so badly from rockys punches he could no longer defend himself.
Ali was actually very humble in real life. All the trash talk was just to put bums on seats, and no one can deny he was the most charismatic boxer of all time.
@@joekavanagh7171 an annoying A hole at times!!!!!! THE MOUTH.
How amazingly honest he is humble man probably the greatest heavyweight rip
A real brother or mother feels the truth and tells the truth God bless both these guys even today as in earth and heaven Rocky cried after he got em God wow!!!
@@HarryHeath-j2p Yes Rocky won but Joe Louis admitted he was washed. Rocky never fought an all-time great in his prime.
@@HarryHeath-j2p That makes Rocky overrated.
Joe was all class. An incredible fighter. You can hear the sadness in his voice talking about Marciano's death.
Absolute nonsense. There was zero sadness. Truth is both Ali and Louis hated Marciano.
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@@The_Durango_Kid Tyson, Ali, Louis all respected Marciano. Marciano was who they compared Tyson to coming up and he was humbled by the comparison.
Furthermore Marciano helped out Louis financially when he was going through difficult times.
@@ryanlynch290 Joe Louis was buried in Arlington National cemetery with full military honors. Joe was a hero unlike Rocky who was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery.
The greatest heavyweight of alltime in my opinion
Wow, I was convinced.
How tough and realistic these men were then, listen to a modern boxer talking after a loss (take The Bronze Bomber) and listen to the excuses, the tantrum and blaming others like a child as opposed to this MAN taking a loss on the chin (literally) and with endless dignity. Joe was the greatest HW and puncher of all time in my opinion.
To be fair, Joe was not above attributing that loss to his age. But I think I was right. For the first few rounds I think we saw what this fight would have looked like with both in their primes. But I do think Joe started to gas in the 7th or 8th.
This was great. Thank you.
How cool is listening to this? Rocky was a tiny, heavyweight. The Brown Bomber was past his prime in this fight. It was refreshing to hear him being honest with himself at that moment.
@@herefortheluls2267 Yes! Thanks for watching and providing feedback. I may have “Joe” read more stories from his book. He goes into great details on most of his fights. He had an excellent memory.
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This is quite impressive. Just imagine if A.I. could match up past champions and present it in a visual format? Thanks you for posting.
@@highlightoftheday7058 No problem! Thanks for watching!
@@DuggerManMuhammad Ali, "Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard *unrecognizable* folks in Africa."
Cosell, "But you think you could have beaten him too?"
Ali, "Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas *especially those deceased.* Marciano and I were good friends, *but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him,* probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, *it's just up to the imagination.*
Cosell, " You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."
Ali, "Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. *He wasn't as great as me,* wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man *just pretending* and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, *he probably wouldn't...* *that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"*
Later though in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore, and Charles would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. ((( *Why was the most important part removed?? Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore, and Charles would've beat Marciano"!!!* )))
ABC'S WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS {MUHAMMAD ALI VERSUS THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME; DAYTONA 500}
Summary:
This edition concludes the segment "Muhammad Ali versus the Greatest Heavyweight Champions of All Time" in which Howard Cosell and Muhammad Ali discuss the careers of great boxers.
In this final portion, Cosell, with world heavyweight champion Ali at Ali's Deer Lake, Pa., training camp, discusses fight films involving these fighters: Joe Louis, Max Schmeling, Billy Conn, Ezzard Charles, Pat Valentino, and Jersey Joe Walcott. Dave Diles reports with a sports news update on the final lap of the Daytona 500 automobile race as Bill Flemming narrates the tape of the finish. Ali and Cosell resume their discussion of fight films involving the following fighters: Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, and Rocky Marciano.
ABC February 15, 1976 Sunday 8½ hrs.
(Dave Diles explains the entire 8½ hrs. coverage *@ 1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
Moral of the story is so much of what Ali actually said about Rocky has been removed!!! This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!!! Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information!!!
@@DuggerMan I just entered the information needed to expose the truth. It's up to you now..
Joe won like a man and lost like one. How could he do this? He was a man, not some modern day, spoiled, pampered brat.
Was he more of a man than you're?
Realistically for real
Rare humbleness
You heard it HE WAS THE GREATEST .
It was a sympathy comment when Joe was at Rocky's funeral.
But of course Rocky fan's have no choice but to use quotes to protect their little hero because they sure as hell can't use his resume!
@@The_Durango_Kidur insecurities r showing. Keep sending yr applications.
Muhammad Ali, "Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard *unrecognizable* folks in Africa."
Cosell, "But you think you could have beaten him too?"
Ali, "Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination.
Cosell, " You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."
Ali, "Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"
Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. ((( *Why was the most important part removed?? Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano"!!!* )))
ABC'S WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS {MUHAMMAD ALI VERSUS THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME; DAYTONA 500}
Summary:
This edition concludes the segment "Muhammad Ali versus the Greatest Heavyweight Champions of All Time" in which Howard Cosell and Muhammad Ali discuss the careers of great boxers.
In this final portion, Cosell, with world heavyweight champion Ali at Ali's Deer Lake, Pa., training camp, discusses fight films involving these fighters: Joe Louis, Max Schmeling, Billy Conn, Ezzard Charles, Pat Valentino, and Jersey Joe Walcott. Dave Diles reports with a sports news update on the final lap of the Daytona 500 automobile race as Bill Flemming narrates the tape of the finish. Ali and Cosell resume their discussion of fight films involving the following fighters: Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, and Rocky Marciano.
ABC February 15, 1976 Sunday 8 ½ hrs.
(Dave Diles explains the entire 8 ½ hrs. coverage *@ 1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
((( Moral of the story is so much of what Ali actually said about Rocky has been removed!!! This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!!! Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades!!! The honest truth is Rocky uploaders removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda!!! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano!!!* Why not just use Rocky's resume to defend him instead of hiding vital information? Well, because Rocky's resume is utter Horseshirt, that's why!!! Y'all can order copies *@ Archival Television Audio Inc.* just type in Muhammad Ali. 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore Louis Conn. *"A prime Louis, Walcott, Moore and Charles would've beat Marciano."* - Muhammad Ali, February 15 1976 )))
Zhang weighs - 285
Bakole - 285
Joyce - 280
Briggs - 265
Ruiz - 265
Grant - 265
Fury - 262
Jalolov - 253
Parker - 250
Foreman - 250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Anderson - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 223
Lyle - 220
Tyson - 218
Holmes - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
*Moore - 175 lb Light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb Heavyweight champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb Heavyweight champion with 67" flyweight reach.*
Little Marciano's era was undoubtedly the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history and that's not even remotely debatable!
MARCIANO beat everybodys ass who got in the ring with him. He retired UNDEFEATED. ✨🏆✨
he couldnt beat tiger ted lowery who was robbed on both occasions by corrupt refereeing
marciano however hard he tried could never knock ted lowery down in 30 rounds of boxing
marciano went the distance with ted lowery and was awarded the decision by corrupt judging many of the boxing and sport writers wrote about how disgraceful and corrupt it was that marciano got the nod .Tiger Ted Lowery talkss about how how was robbed of the win
he beat marciano ass both times and he looked a mess yet was awarded the decision. a robbery and disgraceful
Hadn’t heard about the Lowery fights will check them out
Ali said before he passed it would be very difficult to beat Rocky. He said if he fought him three times he would probably win once the others he wasn't sure. Though jersey Joe had him beat late in the 14th I believe but Rocky knocked him out. He knew he was down on points.
Ali said before he passed it would be very difficult to beat Rocky. He said if he fought him three times he would probably win once the others he wasn't sure. Though jersey Joe had him beat late in the 14th I believe but Rocky knocked him out. He knew he was down on points.
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Muhammad Ali would have TOYED with slow , flat footed Marciano. Cut him to ribbons. And George Foreman would have sent ragdolled him and sent him to the Brockton hospital.
Followed by Ali and my favourite fighter of all time larry holmes
Different in their primes both great champs
Ali was the greatest but these 2 warriors are definitely in the top 10.
This was really cool! Quite realistic
@@hanzagod thanks, man!
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades:
Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?*
Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much!
Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf.
Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!!
Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D.
Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. To continue claiming he was the Greatest or even top 10 Greatest Heavyweight is absurd. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
Miller weighs - 305
Zhang - 285
Bakole - 285
Teremoana - 285
Ruiz - 275
Briggs - 265
Grant - 265
Fury - 262
Jalolov - 253
Parker - 250
Foreman - 220/250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Itauma - 240
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 223
Lyle - 220
Tyson - 218
Holmes - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
Frazier - 206
Dempsey - 187
*Moore - 175 lb Light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb Heavyweight champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb Heavyweight champion with 67" flyweight reach.*
Little Marciano's era was undoubtedly the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history and that's not even remotely debatable!
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Joe Louis and Lee Savold fights really doesn't even deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous.
Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't.
*1)* Harold Johnson
*2)* Oakland Billy Smith
*3)* Yolande Pompey
*4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd
*5)* Clarence Henry
*6)* Joey Maxim
*7)* Marty Marshall
*8)* Bob Satterfield
*9)* Jimmy Bivins
*10)* Lloyd Marshall
*11)* Nino Valdes
Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these;
Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1)
Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1)
Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3)
John Edwards (Career Record 1-2)
Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7)
Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3)
Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14)
Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10)
Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13)
Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15)
Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13)
Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7)
James Connoly (Career Record 12-9)
Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12)
Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12)
Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16)
Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41)
Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21) according to BoxRec and the Providence Journal, *"Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round and Eatman went down, THOUGH IT DIDN'T APPEAR HE WAS HIT"* Not only did Eldridge take a-dive vs. Rocky but he had just lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an F-LEVEL diver who had just lost 8 fights? It's clear as day Mafia Boss Carbo and underboss Al Weill cherry picked and padded Rocky's resume!
Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses.
Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)*
Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses.
Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses.
Immediately *((same day))* after 170-lb diver Eddie Ross was supposedly KO'd by Marciano he drove from Rhode Island Providence to Quebec City Quebec -- 8 hr 15 min 465.9 mi via I-93 N inorder to fight 160-lb Billy Sparks.. ( *"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."* --BoxRec and Providence Journal ) Inspect Eddie's resume, it's hilarious!
None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
Emanuel Steward was an American boxer, trainer and proven boxing Genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career. What did Emanuel have to say about Marciano? He said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
wow not bad. not perfect but definitely much better than i was expecting tbh
This video doesn’t quite add up for me. I read Joe Louis’s book years ago and he admitted he had underestimated Marciano. Watching Joe Louis fight on 10/26/51 was never a pretty site. He should have retired in 1948, as planned, and was fighting after that for financial debts, sadly. Joe could still jab, and he did duck some of Marciano’s punches. But he had no timing and virtually no combinations. How can you win a fight against a tough slugger with only one hand? Watch Louis vs Galento in 1939, along with numerous other fights to see his brilliant two-handed attacks. If Joe did win any rounds, I’m not sure why. It seemed as if Marciano had his number and was just fine waiting to go for the KO. There was no way the Joe Louis of October, 1951, could ever have won that mismatch. Louis ended up saying Marciano was the greatest champion in the first half of the century. (Frankly, I think Louis was. If he had stayed retired in 1948 it would’ve been more obvious.)
do you think
Criminal treatment of a great man by the system
You heard it JOE SAID HIS LEGS WERE WASHED AND HE COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE WAY .
Prime Louis got knocked down by Tony Galento.
@@johnshogskins4443Prime Rocky got knocked down by two little light heavyweights.
Didn't Louis know from training camp that his conditioning was no longer there? He should have poured everything he had into taking Marciano out early.
He could,nt set up because rock did .nt let him set up and he would,ve got k.o.d sooner if he would have tried that.you guy,s don't understand how good and tough and smart Rocco was. Their will never be another.
Thoroughly look at Joe Louis... he is definitely past his PRIME. Although Joe Louis fought 8 guys before he fought Rocky Marciano, NONE of those fighters were in the top 10 as contenders. Joe Louis did this for the MONEY to pay the IRS. Because Joe Louis was in debt due to those numerous exhibition fights, his spendings and taxes. Joe Louis would NOT back out of the fight, yet Louis was washed up. 🚫🚑
After retirement my dad used to go to the swap meet to look for antiques and collectables . He picked up a sports award booklet that had a bunch of sports stars signatures on the front page of the booklet. On the the front page we've identified Rocky Marciano , Jackie Robinson , Jessie Owens , and a bunch more that we were not familiar with. Rocky Marciano wasn't supposed to be there , but he showed up to receive the award for a friend who couldn't attend.
Am I right in thinking that Louis took up wrestling after his retirement in order to make money to pay his tax bills?
@@joekavanagh7171 Yes, he turned to wrestling but got his ribs cracked. I may have “Joe” read that chapter of the book as well
Prime Joe Louis , when he beat Max Schmelling in the rematch, would smash Rocky Marciano.
Bullshit ,Louis was to easy to hit and could not stand toe to toe with rock. No one could. He backed up everyone.
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Video evidence proves you wrong.
@@mikemilliken3596*Ali was too big, too fast, too strong, way too smart and could take the hardest punch ever. Muhammad Ali was and will always be the greatest Heavyweight champion of all-time past and present and future. His best was better than anyone's best. Over hyped 5' 9" 184 lb midget-man would have been humiliated.*
@@mikemilliken3596 *Little Rocky backed up everyone bcz they let him cheat. Little Rocky wouldn't be allowed to fight that way today! Little Rocky would charge in with his head below his opponents waist then raise up and intentionally hit his opponent under the chin with the top of his head.*
@@mikemilliken3596 Hey bruh why are u angry all the time? How many decades have-u desperately been trying to protect Marciano?
Joe Lewis was the best
no one can beat rockys record!!!LOL!!!! he had the power and stamina of a race horse and no one can take that away from rocky!!!!
@@berardoferrari could never knock down tiger ted lowery rocky kryptonite
@@chrisbennett6260 Rocky is an american HERO!!!!!! 40 straight!!!!!
Cool dude
Prime Louis got knocked down by Tony Galento. He was never known for his defensive prowess.
Rocky had a better chin and better endurance. I’d favor him in 15 rd fight.
he should have been able to knock down ted lowery but he never was able to do shit to ted lowery
, Joe got k.od by smelling he did avenge the loss, Joe got dropped hard two times by Walcott but he did get up and win a questionable decision.
@@chrisbennett6260Ted Lowery ran away and would,nt fight.