From RECORD BREAKING QB to UNDRAFTED (What Happened to Sam Hartman?)
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- Sam Hartman was seemingly in college football for a decade, but after putting up historic numbers at Wake Forest and one year at Notre Dame, he went undrafted in 2024. Why did this happen? Today, we are going to talk about the rise of Sam Hartman, his journey and why he didn't hear his name called, enjoy!
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Why did Sam Hartman go undrafted? Who should I cover next (so many options)?
Bad size and measurable
I know people hate to admit/discuss but what is going on with Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame being mid. Also a retrospective on Brian Kelly especially compared to expectations could be interesting as well.
he’s a Jon Bois character. all 3 of his losses at Notre Dame weren’t really entirely his fault if you look at everything. not even mentioning how he damn near tore his ACL the week before the Ohio State game. i could go on and on about Gerard Parker and bad spots in the OSU game and Gerard Parker again but if you asked Sam, he’d say “that was on me, i didn’t ________” which makes me respect the hell out of him. he is (slimly) my favorite collegiate athlete of all time purely because i love and also hate what if’s. Sam Hartman was a few “what if”s away from being the starting quarterback on a team in the College Football playoff.
@@PSUMich hes the same size as caleb williams
Too many other QBs this year, he would've been selected in 9/10 draft classes.
Heres the problem the sports media keeps using the word great when so many are just GOOD
Yup that's really it, he is a solid college QB but I have doubts he can even be a backup in the NFL
It goes all the way to the NFL. How many good, “yes we should resign this guy because he's better than anyone we could draft guys” get paid like they're elite Super Bowl winning QBs?
Guys like him can't compete in today's NFL. Major liability. Ask Pickett and Zach Wilson
Calling a guy who is 24.. OLD.. is absolutely ridiculous man.. Do you know how old DOUG FLUTIE was when he finally took off? Or heck.. Kurt Warner..
I said it contributed to him going undrafted coupled with other more significant reasons.
@@ScottFisherCFB That played a role but so was Chris Weinke Brandon Weeden
Chill, he's not calling him old. 24 is older for a rookie.
Only a few months older than Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams.
He's about 21 months older than Caleb Williams. Saying Hartman is only "a couple months older" is like if Phillip Rivers said he only has a couple of kids.
He's so handsome that teams were too nervous
You sound like that lady on “Ciao House” saying people are jealous of her because she has 2 kids and she’s pretty lol
He’s so handsome he makes me want to wear my boxers backwards.
To be fair he does look magically delicious
He is a handsome man 👨. He belongs in front of a camera. 📸 😂😂😂. He reminds me of that Jon wick dude
wtf is wrong with the 🌎 today
He should just be an actor.
Should have stayed at Wake where he made a name for himself
I agree I don't understand leaving when you are the big man
He was a graduate transfer.
agreed
Absolutely 💯. If you’re good enough the NFL will find you anywhere.
Scheme fit and better receivers may have played a part in him leaving too.
He’s on the Commanders roster. He is an NFL player.
Sam looks like the type of guy that will be in the league for 4-6 years eventually retiring to coach then leading his team to the sb
He will become an X Factor in my madden rebuild if I have anything to say about it
Madden sux
@@rudy6222 k thx
@@Superiocrates lmao. Welcome.
@@rudy6222 Your grammar sucks.
Bro never asked for your opinion 😂
He went to ND and played under a defensive coach with no track record and naturally regressed
He had too many reps and exp to use the OC or coaching staff as an excuse, he played really bad against the big programs that’s the one and only real reason
I respectfully disagree with all these opinions that suggest Hartman "should have stayed at Wake Forest" and/or he "would have had a better season." The fact of the matter is that he had run his course at Wake Forest. He spent 5 years there already and had GRADUATED. He was ready for a NEW CHALLENGE (and who knows -- perhaps he realized that it would be unfair to remain at Wake Forest and thereby DENY HIS fellow Wake QB TEAMMATES the opportunity to start/play if he hogged 6 years of eligibility there ... whereas at ND there was the added benefit of no QB of his caliber ready to lead the Fighting Irish to the next level ... so it was a good match). Additionally, ND saves the ACC at least 5 slots on its schedule, so Hartman actually had the best of both worlds in having new challenges and experiences (e.g., playing in Ireland vs. Navy, playing Ohio State, playing USC and at Stanford, etc. while also facing familiar ACC teams such as Duke, Louisville, Clemson, and his old team Wake). I'm sure Sam Hartman saw the move as an opportunity to SHOWCASE himself nationally as well (all ND home games are on NBC, plus multiple away games are on national TV too. Finally, being the starting QB at ND provided Hartman MASSIVELY MORE NIL $$$ and endorsement $$$ than he would have been able to earn by remaining at WF for season #6. I also believe he monumentally enjoyed his year at ND, the coaching staff, and his new teammates.
To the extent that Sam Hartman went undrafted, I believ he "hurt himself" by opting out of ND's bowl game. Had he played -- a game the Irish won handily with a back-up QB, he likely would have put up "pinball game numbers" to impress the scouts. But more to the point, he would have remained practicing with the team and he would have stayed "in football shape" through December and early January heading into the Senior Bowl. Instead, by opting out of ND's bowl game (which was really silly to do IF he was committed to playng in the Senior Bowl), his last real football practice and game prior to later in January was in November @ Thanksgiving. Consequently, despite continuing to "work out privately" (which is NOT the same), I think Sam Hartman was very "rusty" in the Senior Bowl and did NOT show well. I believe that hurt his draft stock considerably -- MUCH MORE than having only average performances against Ohio State and Clemson ... because he did NOT hab a "bad" season at ND at all.
He seems like a good guy hope he gets some play some where
Netflix show made him seem like a great kid compared to others on show
Pretty sure they didn't make him "seem" like a good kid they were all good kids besides rattler and Malik something that guy who went to Iowa State and disappeared
ND is a QB killer
Or it raises the profile of mediocre QBs
Lmao you let me know when your school produces a Joe Montana
Literally not true.
ND has produced NFL-level QB’s but they don’t stick in the current NFL so ppl think it’s a “QB KILLER” when their favorite team can’t ever produce a decent college QB. Tbf the ND QB to the NFL isn’t a shoo-in like it might’ve been.
Still that’s like saying Alabama is a QB KILLER. They haven’t produced a good QB for the NFL since JOE NAMATH OVER FIFTY YEARS AGO.
Pls discontinue speaking.
@@patricklemire9278
Sorta like Alabama? Or USC, who hasn’t literally ever produced a single NFL level QB?
@@ethanmyers4882
Or Joe Theissman for that matter.
U nailed it…. The definition of a good college qb, better than average with no developmental attributes for next level… but a winner. Good for him
Career backup sounds right. He reminds me of Charlie Whitehurst visually and the way he plays. Grow his hair all the way out, and he could be the return of Clipboard Jesus. Lol!
Brady Quinn more like
As a Washington fan, I’m happy to have two rookie QBs on my team. I think Sam Hartman can be a great back up for Jayden Daniel’s.
Went to ND into an offense run by the Te coach with no WR depth where his only target was the TE.
That and a mediocre O line. Freeman wanted Andy Ludwig, but promoted Gerad Parker when the deal fell through. Parker ruined Hartman, in my opinion
First saw him on QB1 and have been a fan ever since. Sucks he hasn't gotten noticed for the NFL. Good luck to him though.
Yeah he was like the only non-shithead kid.
I was just wondering about this vato... dope video bro.
I was your 1000 like!!
Followed this dude throughout high school into college. He should’ve stayed at Wake maybe but I think he’ll maybe get a shot.
Sams time at ND he had some great games (SC game) and then some horrible games (Louisville).
And Clemson on the horrible side.
From watching ND extensively, I can tell you that he couldn't adapt to the team. Felt like he threw more INTs than TDs, even though that's not the case. Great thrower when his targets neared the sideline, but asking him to throw it in the middle of the field was sketchy. He had tools around him, but they weren't exactly wide receivers. Tight ends, running backs, and as per usual, a stellar O-line. I think he's a good dude, but he's just eh at QB. A great arm with awful decision making often times.
He was a good college QB ; NFL is a different game and he simply doesn't have a game that will translate well to the nfl and the same can be said of Devin Leary as well . I loved Hartman at WFU and supported his decision to go to ND but the problem with him is always consistency you never know who your going to get from game to game. He reminds me of another Will Grier .
I’m a UK fan and I was surprised Devin got drafted. Don’t get me wrong he threw a pretty spiral and a good amount of his passes were dropped by the receiver, but dude would miss those receivers by yards plenty of times during a game.
When these QBs keep transferring from Wake, bad things happen. Look at Jamie Newman
If in doubt blame QB1 Beyond The Lights
I personally predicted this happening and never wanted him at ND. Next year this time you'll be making this same video talking about Riley Leonard. 🍀
Riley Leonard will probably be a 4th or 5th rounder but he really went to Notre Dame for NIL
@@dreamkingsproductions aren't you the same guy that told me Hartman was supposedly a 1st round pick
i remember watching him at the combine, had no idea he went undrafted that sucks
Could you do a Video on kyron drones or just Virginia teach
Part of me thought he was going to be a nobody despite his decent numbers at WF but when he competed his lone season at ND, I suspected he would not go undrafted.
Sam’s love and embrace of Notre Dame made him instantly one of my favorite quarterbacks, I’ll never forget the win he gave us against SC seeing that in person with my father
He can play in the CFL, like Warren Moon & Doug Flutie.
Dude my family is taking step father applications someone get this dude to apply 😂
He was in a stacked draft class up against Jayden, bo nix, calib, JJ, spencer, jordan travis, drake maye, milton , penix ETC. thats a lot of QBs who were better. Thats WHY he went undrafted.
Wish him the best still living his dreams may have not been drafted but someone noticed his talent and signed him
You can thank gerad Parker, also Sam didn’t do well when the pocket wasn’t perfect, he will struggle at the NFL level if he can’t make more off schedule plays, play calling was not good but in the Clemson and Louisville game he did not come out sharp at all
I was born in the shadow of the dome but didn't expect him to be drafted.
I honestly thought Hartman was going to be 2nd or 3rd best late round QB. He seemed to be somewhat flatlined after the OSU game.
tommy devito is no answer. perhaps hartman can get a look?
Welcome to Washington Sam hope he makes the finale roster
dude is going to be fine. if you visited tiktok you would think the dude won 18 heismans in a row. as one female commenter said on tiktok, he is going to be showing someone a true meaning of christmas soon on streaming.
Great video but you forgot his whole stint on QB1 when he transferred for his senior year to a tiny high school with no facilities. Very likable kid. Rooting for him.
No he didn’t, he mentioned it early in the video?
The QB from Canada that played for Florida shows the way. Jesse wasn’t a great QB but he looks good. I see Sam in the broadcasting booth and hosting “The Bachelor”.
I THINK HE IS STILL A GOOD QUARTERBACK. HE WILL SURVIVE.
the next "Clipboard Jesus." Guys like Sam have a tendency to stick around as a backup or camp arms, make more money than you and I will ever make in our lifetimes, then coach or run some camp for high schoolers. Well played, good sir, well played.
Clipboard Jesus is nuts 😂
10:47 Hartman had THE play of the year for ND against Duke, picking up a 1st down on 4th and 17(?) With his legs. He didn't play well that game. But to say he disappear when he made the play of the season isn't accurate.
ND was #11 in the country, and was facing an UNRANKED Duke, may have been the play of the season for ND, but if so, shows how bad of a season it was. Just looked it up, he went 4-8 on the final drive, the winning TD was a 30yard run by the RB.
@fcscouto well thats just not true. ND was ranked 11th at 4-1 going into the game and Duke was 4-0 ranked #17, including shitting on (at the time) #9 ranked Clemson.
I'm happy you looked up stats. Next time, watch the game or watch highlights though.
@@alexgauthier2448 you think you got a sick burn in there, but the point still stands Duke had mediocre season, and having a your best play of the season against them shows how poor the season was.
@fcscouto please give me more bad takes. Want to know why Duke had a mediocre season after starting off 4-0 (Btw, you'd know the answer if you watched the game or highlights)? ND forced a fumble on Duke's last possession. During the play/fumble, Riley Leonard's (Duke's QB at the time, now with ND btw) ankle got rolled up. He played in two more games, but was hardly the player he was before the injury and needed two additional surgeries after the season. Instead of 8-5, Duke probably finish 10-3, 11-2 with him at the helm.
@@alexgauthier2448 you keep trying to move the goalposts... your point was that he doesn't disappear because he made the play of the season vs Duke on a 4th down scramble. a drive where he went 2/4 and didn't pass for the TD...in the 5th game of the season. having one great play doesn't mean he didn't disappear. Look I get it, you love ND and/or Sam Hartman, i'm not even saying he isn't a good QB, and you're getting super defensive over it.
Wasn't he just let go by Washington?
Wow I had no idea he didn’t get drafted
When u consider how many 1st round QBs are a bust its hard to believe someone hasnt invited him to camp or etc?? I think theres no less then 20 NFL Teams that would love to find the next Tony Romo or kurt warner..
Real ones watched him on qb1 szn 2 🤟🏾
The real ones with no job
Funny that you keep saying he was slept on or acting curious as to why he only had 3 offers out of high school when looking at the tape it's absolutely clear why, the level of competition looked terrible. A bunch of small white kids, 10 players on the sideline...he was a great college qb though, has degrees from Wake Forest/Notre Dame and is extremely handsome (no Diddy) so he'll be fine in life, wishing him all the best 👍
Level of comp has nothing to do with anything if you can play you can play
@@AndreKing4yes it does its the biggest deciding factor between three and four stars
@@AndreKing4I feel you but it definitely does play a factor and it clearly showed when he was at ND. He’s not super athletic or does he have crazy arm talent. You could tell the speed of the game was different for him at ND.
@@AndreKing4 it has everything to do with your rankings and the level/amount of offers that you get, I think that's almost not even up for debate
I'm getting a Ryan Fitzpatrick-type of vibe with Sam.
He'll bounce around , get a chance here and there , and have a little success....in small doses.
I don't ever see him being a starter in the NFL , but he can still have a nice , long career.....just with quite a few stops.
As an FSU fan, I was glad when he transferred to ND because he tore our butts up at WF.
Man I’m a wake fan and I miss my boy Sam. It’s been a good 10 years since Wake has had bad qb play. Mitch Griffis is so bad and Wake needs to change up the offense.
Sam Hartman= Brady Quinn
2 words: Gerad Parker😢
He went to ND and decimated their ability to actually recruit QB’s. So now they’ve had to resort to relying on terrible QB’s. Last NFL QB f try on ND? Ian Book. Coach? Brian Kelly. Hartman wasn’t good for legitimately half a season. And none of our current QB’s on the roster are worth even a look, so they’ll transfer to better places-like LSU.
Yes I know Jack Conan was a transfer QB but that was the only one in BK’s decade at ND.
Sounds like Brady coming out
I’m gonna speak for all of us when we say we’re tired of hearing about Sam. People tried to push this narrative so hard that he was solid, smh. Time reveals all
The next Jimmy Garoppolo
Did Newman quit or did Covid happen ?
He was good not great, but he also didn’t get helped by the offensive game plans at ND. He was brought in to be a difference maker, but when the big lights shone, the coaching staff turtled and put out very conservative game plans. They played to limit mistakes on offense and give the defense the chance to win those games. That limited Sam’a options in the passing offense. Not saying that that is why he was underwhelming, but it didn’t help. ND didn’t need to bring Sam in if they didn’t want to use him…they could have done that with Buckner and gotten a similar result.
But, ultimately, he had enough chances to be the playmaker and pull out those wins, so it is largely still on him. He just wasn’t great.
Hope he gets a chance he’s going to be a steel
So he’s a future actor?
Do a video on Jason Bean
Notre Dame got blown out by Louisville on national TV . He showed his true colors.
That’s bc it was our 4th prime time game in a row against ranked teams and it was at Louisville. They were tired and also underprepared
Should have went to the Noles.👈💯👈
My brother went to hs with Hartman.
🦅💚🦅💚💚🦅💚🦅🦅
He got cute with the portal like a lot of these guys, should have stayed at Wake and continued to put up numbers.
Notre Dame's front office FAILED Coach Marcus Freeman by not hiring OC Andy Ludwig and had to go with Gerad Parker and keep in the Tommy Rees SCAN OFFENSE that has never been QB or WR friendly and full of predictable plays and has a long track record of getting shut down in big games or vs top defenses he had no audibles and predetermined reads and then WR room talent wasn't developed and got hit with injuries THIS 2023 performance was not mainly about him ND failed to put him in his best position to succeed
He will be a solid backup QB for a non-contender I think.
He looks like my Nintendo mii
He didn't have a super arm. He wasn't super moble. He wasn't super dominant. For a secong i thought you were describing Mac Jones.
This is what happens when you move to a bigger school if your talented and at a smaller school stay there that’s the best route for you your name will just get diluted going else where
Dude should just market himself, if you have that good of hair, profit off of that since being a QB didn’t pan out
🙋🏿, REMIND ME OF BRAD JOHNSON.
At 10:14 did he piss himself?
Had two sons who played DI football, one in the Big Ten, one in the SEC. Never heard of this dude.
What do you mean what happened? He just wasn’t as talented as people thought he was. Yea he did good at wake forest against lesser competition but when you go to Notre Dame and player better schools you have to be elite.
Ill tell you exactly what happens he went to Notre Dame where top layers go and watch their careers burn.
Never heard of him don't really watch college though
Will Hartman be the next legend🤔
I guarantee that If we didn't get Jordan Travis, we'd have made him mr irrelevant
I wish I had his hair.
Yeah dismissing a QB just because he is under 6 feet is...smart. While going after QB who are 6'4 and can't read defenses. Smart.
In the NFL I think he’s fine
His arm is very weak. Look at his combine throwing mph. Its laughable comparer to all others.
he'd be a carer backup anyway. Which is fine, but something you'd not expect from someone who played at ND. Maybe those losses showed something about his playing style. But I think he'll be fine and prob be called up in the nFL at some point.
Id imagine that the medical stuff is a huge (if not the only reason) part in why he's not drafted.
After watching the vid in full: maybe it was the playing lol.
Cause he’s not good
our OC sucked lol but hartman wasn’t bad
yeah same people like you said the same thing abt Purdy at one point
He looked terrible in the senior bowl
@ganhubbs5617 No, they didn't, and he wasn't that good. That's never the whole story, and some things click for people at different times. Why care so much about someone's opinion anyway?
@Fencellisk cause we aint qualified enough to say what player might end up working with certain coaching staffs and schemes. we aint coachin em😂 that's why nobody knew Purdy would be great. we jus fans @ the end of the day. who knows w Hartman.
He was an average college qb carried by talent around him and no developmental traits that could fully transition him into the pros? What else is there to say? His offense put up 10 points on the second best college defense in the country. He’s not doing anything against NFL defenses and coaches and scouts know that.
It’s real simple. He’s not that good. He played mediocre in all of Notre Dame big games. The defense is the reason they beat USC
My Washington Commanders signed him 😁
Sam will become the next Tom Brady..... (Brady was 199th. and look what he did) That usc quarter back that the Bears got..... will get CRUSHED!!!!
Do a video about Titus Young out of BSU. Dude could do anything.....except stay out of his own head.
QBs go undrafted every year B 😐
If chase Daniel’s from Misso can last 10+ yrs in the NFl with arguably a worse college career, I have no doubt Sam will be at best a carrer backup with some plug and play here and there. His medicals and poor performance against top tear teams broke his draft stock. He folds under pressure to much,
Louisville is what happened to him
That hair, though. Doesn't pass the eye test, you say?
This is easy. There have been multiple examples of great college qbs that couldn't make the practice squad for NFL teams. NFL football is a different game. Ask the Raiders or the Titans how their star college picks Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell faired.
It’s not brain surgery.. no one wants a 26 year old rookie .. he is almost 2 years older than Jalen Hurts .. there’s nothing to develop