This fight is stupid | Persona 5 Royal - Okumura Boss
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2020
- While this fight was a breeze in Persona 5.. for some reason they decided to over correct it's issues to the point where the fight is near unbeatable if you don't have certain setups ready.
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I think I lost a bit of my soul due to this fight.
In vanilla, this boss right was easy, but they had to make the employees run away.
i feel like i suddenly slapped right out of the speed force
I quit the game and moved to strikers
This is hard? really? if you really can't figure out to attack all enemies one-by-one and use baton passes. And then give up to get "izanagi no okami picaro" your way through it. Then you don't know how persona 5 royal's combat works.
@@askallywag that was my struggle even on merciless the big green guys would run and it made me die and reset so many times
As someone who beat both Shido and Yaldabaoth first try, this boss is the most incredibly and unrealistically difficult boss fight in the entire game.
The trick was to get the blue baton pass using items, right?
im weird, i found yaldobaoth easy and didnt take down any of his arms nor did a sing party member die, but i struggled rlly hard with okumura and shido
shido loses to magic wall, i think my izangi picaro had that and welp too ez
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@@joshburt8145Okumura is the hardest boss for me. Even harder than Yaldabaoth.
yess you get me, yaldaboath was easier than okumura by far@@unknowed5048
What ticked me off the most about this fight was how the countdown didn't stop for any dialogue or animation, forcing me to skip them in order to save time. This took out every bit of enjoyment when I finally beat him because I skipped his dialogue, afraid, not knowing if there's more after
The worst part is, if you think about it, its not even particulary hard or difficult.
Its literally designed to be tedious and frustrating.
This fight cost me so many nerves because it was constantly getting on them.
This was the fight that made me switch to "easy" JUST so i dont have to deal with it anymore after getting hardstuck again after my 5th attempt.
Agreed, the cut scenes for him were annoying and long during battle
"Oh no, I actually have to prepare and strategize instead of just brute forcing, this boss sucks!!!"
It's literally just the same as maderames 2nd phase but just a bit stronger, it's seriously not that hard...
@@RealQuarlie except the game forces you to rely on baton pass, while simultaneously taking away the all out attack, which normally plays hand in hand with the baton pass. The game arbitrarily limits your options for this fight, for no apparent reason.
@@porpoision
It's literally a final boss fight... You were never able to just do an all out attack, ever. Not on maderame, nowhere...
"The gamr arbitrarily limts your options"
You only mentioned one thing...
And the worst part to me is the big bang challenge move they do. It’s like having to climb a mountain and then some guy just kicks you straight back down. It’s literally designed to waste players’ time.
This palace is "That part" of P5R
They managed to fix the palace in general and make better but they somehow couldn’t make this boss fight any less hard. BRUH
It ain't that hard though
@@GuyWhoWatchesStuff you got jokes huh
@@neoken7356 died only once and was playing on hard
@@GuyWhoWatchesStuff I literally had to switch to merciless to get a damage buff
@@GuyWhoWatchesStuff this is just my run through tho so I guess you might’ve had a lot higher leveled team
max baton passes, use items (psy bombs, etc), and buff. that is the only damn way you’re getting through this fight.
Or just put it on merciless and cheese them with megidola
So, playing the game its intended way...
laughs in DLC
Also element accessories will let you do more than 50 damage lmao
So what the game has been telling you to do since the start
I was on quite the roll playing this game a ton and really getting into it until this boss fight. I tried and tried and tried, but I came to the conclusion that I'm simply not strong enough to beat it. I've never had this issue before, even the palace itself was totally within my grasp. But now I guess I have no choice but to go grind for a while.
Same. I was constantly playing P5R because I was having so much fun playing through the palaces and the boss fights felt fair and it didn’t feel like I needed powerlevel my team or use certain personas to beat it. Until this fight. I was about to throw my controller or break something I was so pissed. I don’t normally rage at a video game, but this is the exception. I just stopped playing the game because I would progress a little and then get wiped out by the new wave because I had no fucking idea how I supposed to kill them. I watch guides, and even made a damn Reddit post asking why the hell he was so difficult. Still can’t beat the damn thing.
@@blitzboy2934 I know right!!
Every time that green ugly loser runs away at the very last second I lash out at myself. I also have no clue on why in God’s name did they made this thing difficult as hell? How do they expect you to beat 4 demon like enemies at once in just 2 turns????
@@ebrahimfawad940 you can get a total of 6 turns for using psi attacks just with joker and haru, that's more than enough to kill them, even on the hardest difficulty...
You just have to actually think about what you're doing if you wanna beat a BOSS battle... it's supposed to be a challenge and testing your overall abilities, and not just a breeze...
Also, you can easily just attack once foe with a single hit attack for a 1 more, baton pass to joker with a psi persona, do the same "one foe hits" for 2 for one mores, then do a all foes attack for the final one more to do yet another all enemies psi... by doing this alone, you can attack all enemies a total of 3 times (except 1, only 2 times) with their weakness attack and baton pass boost in a single turn.....
@@RealQuarlie I finally defeated all of them after dozens of attempts. And yes hitting them with Psychokinesis or Curse attacks one at a time for a 1 more helps for a powerful attack when baton passed twice. The issue was that I did not have any psy and curse attack bombs or items and therefore I could only rely on Joker and Noir since they were the only 2 capable for these attacks. So I instead switched to another save file which was saved few days before the boss fight in the game and luckily I had 3 psy skill cards and so I implemented them on the rest of the team. And that helped a lot and that was how I finally defeated them. I don’t mind it being hard. That’s fine. I just don’t think it’s right that you need to have a set of requirement items to defeat this boss. No other boss in the game has such a barrier except Okumura’s.
@@ebrahimfawad940 I mean, a lot of bosses have something like that, where you simply need specific elements. Maderame alone has 2 different phases where you have to do it.. Also: the game just slowly expects you to have a variety of skills by that point. You have 12 slots, and there are 10 elements (8 if you don't include gun and physical, which most personas have anyway), so it shouldn't be too hard.
for such an amazing game, this boss fight is absolute shit.
This boss fight is piss easy
@@sippysoup9922 yeah i wish 😂
@@IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia it used to be easy but they added that first phase to royal
@@Transgender__ i know i heard it was so easy it was bad. and now its so hard that its bad 😂
@@sippysoup9922 Good ol' Izanagi-No-Okami Picaro, nothing beats that
I’m playing on merciless and I have been losing to this boos fight dozens on dozens of times this boss fight is nearly unbeatable they should give you an award for beating this boss fight
Now that I beat Royal, I can say that Maruki's boss fight was actually hard but in a fun way. Preparing for that fight, I was able to max out my entire party. It helped that I killed the reaper once in mementos to boost up EXP.
You're right, my bad xd.
I was using normal then I changed to merciless it was sooo ez
@@Airzo_X dude I'm playing hard on new game plus its not even a challenge
Don't you get a PS Trophy? You can get themes with that
If you really want to beat this legit, stack up on the elemental damage items so you can get the baton pass to max. But I don’t recommend it. This fight is complete bullshit. There is no leniency for you, and if you fuck up even just one turn you can get snowballed HARD. This was the only part of the entire game that halted my progression like a brick wall. Horribly frustrating.
If the enemies didn't get fully healed/replaced after only 2 turns after already being on a timer, this would be a way more fun and educational boss fight
If i didn't stumble upon some random reddit post describing how hellish this fight was I would have never been prepared for it. I can't believe they threw such a tough curve ball 100 hours into the game!!!
This is why I got the Ultimate Edition LMAO Izanagi-no-Okami Picaro their asses to death
Same. Go full Dio on their asses
This is the one time you should actively use InOP
This is the one fight I will allow DLC Personas
Shit's hard unless you come in already knowing what you need
Even though it took me the whole fucking day to beat this, I actually like this boss fight.
Made me think more about what I was doing than the other bosses. Thank god I had enough money to fuse more useful personas
Once I read up on strategy and realised by using items to weaken the enemies one by one and batton passing after one is weakened, it was kinda easy ngl. I failed like 5 times though before I learned how to do it. Easily the most frustrating and stupidly hard boss imo. How was I supposed to know that they run after two turns? I thought they ran after their health reached a certain level. So dumb.
Same
What items should i use for the green robots?
@@atha5007 you need to find their weekness, and then use abilities and items that make sure you keep baton passing. I went to mementos to stock up on items so I'd be ready for the fight. It's time consuming, but worth it.
@@atha5007 the big green ones appear to be weak to psy effects btw, not sure about any other weakness. You could try googling. I don't recall much of the battle anymore
@@girffe7442 their other weakness is curse but I can't keep batton passing and hit their weaknees. And i just can't kill them at once. I also run out of sp
I pulled my hair for hours in this fight and the timer still going even on dialogues makes it worse.
completing this boss fight restores my faith for the rest of the game
First time playing Persona 5 Royal without playing the vanilla. After finishing it, Mr. Okumura was the hardest boss for me.
One of the worst bosses I've ever fought in a game. I've never been so disappointed in a game for a boss design ever.
I've beaten every single boss fight in this game without dying and going blind except this one. Took me s fucking night
I remember when I got to the green suits, I realized that I'm gonna have to redo the fight. So I spent the rest of the fight trying to figure out a strategy. When I ran it back and beat the green suits, I had about half the time and no idea what was next. I wanted to beat it with the gear and abilities I had on hand, like a run back. I popped off when that last hit struck!!!!
As someone who is close to this fight.... this terrifies me. And I thought Futaba's Mom was hard...
Dude, I only had Mapsi at the start of the fight and just couldnt kill the green ones fast enough, had to change the difficulty to merciless, I can see how much easier it is when you have mapsiodyne lol, really does require you to have certain abilities. I don't think I even had Psy bombs
Same, I had to take out a DLC Persona to beat it because I only had Mapsi and no bombs on me. I couldn't damage them fast enough to kill
The fights not that bad, it only cost me 2 controllers, 7 years of my life, and a deal with satan
i think this fight is designed around baton passes which yeah is fine. but it's the fact that you have to use baton passes to win the fight.
Small Brain Strategy for this Fight: Exploit Weaknesses and Spam Baton Passes to Victory. Lose precious time and resources (and tries) as you go through repeated waves ad-infinitum until it works. Lose Sanity in the Process.
Big Brain Strategy: Shill out loads of Money/Resources to fuse High Level "Late-Game" Personas with actually strong attacks to Breeze through this fight. Comfortably progress through the Game beyond with Sanity intact. :^)
(Latter Strategy more easily achieved in NG+, unless ofc Strength Arcana is maxed out before then)
Nobody gonna talk about okumura being like a NAVI in this fight?
Took me 3 tries on second hardest difficulty team mate swap helps alot with this fight. I start with the girls and end with the boys. Seems to work well to use Ann for the first couple then swap her with mona. Then use haru and then swap out makoto with ryuji and then swap out haru for fox and have the last guy just take alot of physical damage. Had joker just doing debuffs and trading characters most of the round and had abilities to eliminate debuffs on my team.
I lost two days of my life on this fight until I finally fused the persona that could beat the last three bots
Recommended tips from me!: if you have DLC personas use the one with Abyssal Wings on the big green robots
The team i used was Haru Morgana and Ryuji
On the right hand man try spamming stat buffs + stat debuffs then beat the living shi out of it as if it was another tanky enemy dont forget to guard when it uses Big Bang Order
Then on Robot Haru when its about to explode either guard bc its possible to survive the explosion or just try killing it as fast as possible then slap okumura bc u won
Don't forget healing
Ryuji Morgana and Haru are the best set up for this fight in Royal
☠️i stayed up all night with this fight bruh and i still havent passed it
Oh God I had to retry this battle like 4 times because these stupid bots won't die and they respawn endlessly.
All this fight needed was some checkpoints and it’d have been soo much better
I honestly really liked it, top 5, if you know what your doing its real fun at least for me.
I reach that part and I’m losing my mind playing this honestly I’m probably gonna cheer when pancake boi drops him
So far this was the only boss fight by far where I loss once. Admittedly I used Izanagi no Okami with concentration to clear most of the bots. Had to take their status weaknesses into account. And just powering through the manager bot. Then cognitive Haru was kind of easy. Then when it was Haru's turn, I had her use the ax to finish off her father. Yeah... definitely not a breeze despite how he was last time. I sincerely hope I enjoy sae palace because it was my favorite in vanilla version .
Same I went through the entire game without losing then I got to the boss fight and died
@@gagehackett1057 probably because you were on easy mode...
@@gamzeemakara7409 no I was on normal and I actually grinded for exp so I won almost every fight
@@gagehackett1057 when I said easy mode I meant normal. I highly doubt most people play the actual easy mode.
I lost cause I was an idiot and forgot I had defense boosting items I got made into a big bang burger :(
I didn't find him too tough but I did grind a little bit.
It’s the green one that makes me wanna break my controller
The green ones are literally the easiest ones...
@@RealQuarlie douche
just get concentrate on ann, you can obtain it from jazz club on 9/25 and dont forget to buy fire amp accesory and equip it on ann, once you get all that just spam concentrate and maragion and use fire brek if enemy has fire resistence, and for team i bring haru, mona (if your makoto already have mediarama then use her instead), and use mc for debuffing and equip the ring of glutony on mona/makoto for a marakukaja skill.
Myriad truths go brrrr
I was mostly relying on the enemies' weaknesses. How did you get so many technical opportunities??
You can check out the persona wiki and check out how to get technical’s.
I guess having a psi, bless, garu, agi and curse persona is uncommon? Or idk having ann, haru or morgana on the team... The robots even tell you their weakness.
What happens if you shock or maybe even freeze even one non-ED robot but fail to destroy the wave on turn 2? Do they recover immediately and flee anyway?
This boss fight made me switch the difficulty to "Safety" just so I could get through the damn story and be done with it.
Damn, still stuck on this one. Dont have enough persona for this
Should've used ryuji and yusuke and switch makoto with the three others occasionally
I lost my bits of my health cause of this fight
I’m literally about to give up here
i was forced to use izanagi no okami picaro for this fight , i hate myself so much -_-
What makes me sad is that there's no All out
Yup, that would've helped tremendously
This is one of the most frustrating boss fights I have ever played in a game, the fact that you have only 2 turns to beat each wave is a complete trash
Title:"this fight is stupid"
Video: *nothing stupid happening*
🤦
I can't beat the blue talk ones, and I have 5 days left till the deadline, any tips my guys are lvl 50 and imma bout to throw something
Edit: changed mode to safe so I wouldn't loose my mind, used holy power. This is a tedious boss but it emphasized strategies over brute force... still pissed off
This fight wasn’t too bad honestly but it was definitely annoying
I never saved my game data faster than after I beat this coward of a palace ruler. This man basically beats you just by rolling deep. I lost three times straight...😒
That doesn’t sound so bad.
This boss fight is just pure bullshit. I personally believe boss fights shouldn’t force you to exploit a mechanic in order for you to actually beat them. That’s just stupid and not fun. Forcing players to beat enemies in two turns is literally just frustrating game design.
this looks really hard
My answer to this boss fight was to power level like a boss and then strong arm the boss into submission.
THIS FIGHT WASTED 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE YESTERDAY AND I HATE IT
Its easy but takes longer than expected
I’m glad you don’t mind it.
i dont have enough psio attacks to do it. idk what to do ive been stuck for hours
Try to lvl up in mementos until lvl 50 then go burst his fucking robots
Haru naturally has psi attacks, and a ton of other personas have psi as well... you can already get half your team with psi easily
Ngl I lost like 6 times
only?
I believe you I think I died more than that
I lost this fight on S A F E mode
I beat it in the second try though, i got that legacy dlc (i didnt notice it in the store earlier and i felt stupid)
I raged so hard I dropped it on safe mode. I think I'm just gonna finish in safe mode. But I might go back cause I also forgot about the free dlcs. But so many hours lost.
Edit: I went back and beat it barely. It was insane lol.
@@kawaiicookiuwu3322 you know, safe mode is the hardest mode against this boss and this sounds insane but the highest difficulty is the easiest since you get three times damage for moves that they are weak too
@@amethystfox4213 you are totally right!!! with this suggestion i beat him
@@joshuadtm7 great to hear, I only wish if they could have fixed this broken mess of a boss fight
He's even annoying in the vanilla version
i managed to beat him earlier.
I hate this fight with every fiber of my being. It’s the only thing keeping me from replaying this otherwise amazing game, which is annoying because I missed out on quite a few things, missing entire character arcs and confidants.
Why does this exist
Little tip for him once you take out a full wave of robots it moves on to the next wave of different robots
So basically just don't let any flee
I Lost so meny Times on this boss I fanilly beat him!
This fight is hard in a not fun way
Unlike bosses like yaldabaoth and maruki they're hard but in a fun way
However okumura is not fun at all and he's incredibly stressful and it's very hard not to see why this fight is so hated
This fight really is annoying
video title completely not natch with the content
Yes, yes it is
The fight is made to use whats learned through out the palace, you learn the weaknesses and use them, I might be the only person who kinda likes this fight
This boss literally took me two minutes even on the harder difficulties
First 3 Waves of Enemies! No Problem. But then it's just a stupid Mess! It ruins the Game
This whole palace sucked
Liked the maze, hated the boss. How tf was I supposed to know I'd need psi bombs
The most disappointing fight for a boss i ever dealt with, not that it's difficult but just plain dumb. He is garbage yet the game decided to make him use hordes and a time limit just to be annoying. I work full time and want to play games to enjoy my time off, i like turning off my brain like what the hell.lol
Now here i am watching a video on how to whoop em. I quit for tonight as i have work in a couple of hours, i was enjoying myself until now.lol
This boss wasn’t hard for me, he was fucking annoying.
I hate this Boss!
Worst boss fight ever
Well, bild was totally bad
1. No persona with Concentrate, no Seth with megidolian, no kaiwan with psy spells (it was in same palace)
2. No psy boost item for haru, dmg weak (selled in mall)
3. Fight on casual mode, ofc you will suffer, what do you expect?
And those people cry about "bad" fight, this fight was BEST cuse tested how people prefer to play with their feet instead using alarm more and create some usefull personas.
Could just take izanami if it was so hard.
Facts and logic right here
True, but it's hard to tell what you'll need in advance. Imo the fight design sucked not because the fight idea was bad, but because it requires you to know what you'll be up against beforehand. If you don't have psi bombs for example, it can be hard to do enough dmg to kill, even if you are optimizing your turns in battle. Every other fight in the game except this one was easy imo
Yea this fight is easy. I don't understand the complaints. Maybe persona 5 was their first persona game or something. My first persona game was persona 4 (the original version not golden where difficulty went to being a joke) and every bosses there kicked my ass at least 20 times each.
in my opinion is one of the best bosses on all persona like top 5. the idea is cool and its fun cose its hard. have you played smt 4? the first boss is hard AF if you dont abuse hes weakness
Well the group did whant a challenge
this battle was absolute trash
Tbh i don’t know people say this fight was hard it’s really fun especially in royal
It gets repetitive if your personas are too weak to kill the robots in 2 turns and you have to start over. I personally beat it by luck cause I used Mona's lucky punch to get a crit and baton pass
Yes, the reason why it’s hard is because if you don’t have enough money, items, very specific spells, the best baton and technical dmg. etc, this boss fight is near impossible. I had to perfectly select party members and map out before hand exactly what I would need to do for each turn of every phase. After that I was barely able to scrape by with good RNG and praying that he doesn’t give my allies hunger, which makes baton passing impossible.
lol do y'all speed running the game? At the time I fight this boss, it was hard at the beginning and I lost, then after I figured out the trick and immediately restart the battle, my second attempt is pretty easy
@@maChao97tachibana I wouldn't say I speed run I just did mementos and all fights on the palace by the end I was level 43
I’m glad that not everyone hated it.
3:34 that’s a bad move on your part if you had Morgana on your party you could have used baton pass or just used it again 🤦
5:53 bro why didn’t you use mapisodyne you could of passed it to haru so that she could inflict more damage with mapiso 🤦
Uhhhhhh I beat it first try it was really easy
This was on persona 5 royal they added a first phase that is way to hard
This boss was absolutely horrible! I spent 4 hours trying to beat him. it was nearly impossible. I almost completely gave up on the game because of this shitty boss. It ruins this wonderful game, that's a shame.
What about Kaneshero
At least kanshiro was fun to fight
How the hell y'all struggling with this game? Once you have Ryuji's instant kill difficulty is totally gone and that shit was 3 dungeons ago.
Tfw you lose the boss not cause it's difficult but cause you're dumb. (I'm talking about me btw just to make this clear lmao)
So who else got made into a big bang burger?
This fight was easy. How are people struggling with such easy boss
The problem is you guys are so used to having gimmicks thrown at you like the crown for kamashida for example... It's to the point where this "hard" boss fight is taking you so long because you're used to easy BS... This is why smt players and persona 1-4 players laugh at y'all 😂😂