What if the weapons were originally built for the pilots, but were inside storage compartments in the beasts nobody could open? and the blight corrupting it was the first one who could force the lock?
I thought about that, too, cause it is interesting that Blights use weapon type exactly matching the pilot. This idea folds in on itself though because for it to work, Sheikah would have to be able to see the future, so they can tailor weapon type to each pilot, and still fail to predict Blights taking over. Alternative idea is that these were made for the first generation of pilots and were meant to be passed down to current group but Blights took them over before it was possible. This felt like going down a rabbit hole during scripting though, so I refrained ^^' I might still make a full video about it as a follow up in the future!
What if a higher aptitude for the specific weapons in some way made piloting the specific divine beast more intrinsic or somehow meant an individual had a higher aptitude for piloting divine beasts. This would explain how these weapons made for the original champions are the same types that the "current" champions used and was meant to be passed down or even used as a test for pilot "worthiness". And maybe our champions were not quite adequate and that could also be why ganon was able to corrupt them and then hain acsses to the weapons or something like that. Someone with a bigger brain than I could sort out the rest
@@Drakenwildplaying TOTK now makes me think that this idea of the weapons already existing, but being taken over is more likely than it first seemed. After all, I don’t think the zonai expected Ganondorf to take over one of their constructs, and the Yiga know how to use zonai devices in creative ways already, so I think that what happened was a kind of combination of the Yiga creating their own weapons out of already existing ones, and the calamity’s influence on the sheika technology.
Coming from a post Totk perspective, maybe the blights were the sheikah’s attempt at creating the constructs, specifically Mineru’s construct. We see all the blights have faces, and with sheikah tech often being attempts at imitating zonai tech, this seems likely to me. Because the Sheikah didn’t have access to fuse for the hands, they simply made the weapons their actual hands. Mini theory: The blights never originally had their elemental powers, but obtained them through the bodies of the dead chanpions (ik age of calamity disproves thjs but its not cannon)
My guess is that perhaps the Blights were originally specialized Guardians designed to protect the operators of the Divine Beasts and then Ganon took them over just like the rest of the Guardians.
That's a very interesting idea, I have not thought of that! It's also notable that Blights share the weapon type with their respective Champion, which could hint at this being the case.
@@Drakenwild I was thinking that maybe the divine beasts were supposed to have a system that the sheika were trying to implement that would protect the champions in case gannon's forces attacked the divine beast, but were not done on time when the calamity hit. Ganon probably used these unfinished sheika parts to create the blights. My guess is that they were meant to be kind of like guardian stalkers, larger, can hold weapons, and could likely shoot multiple lasers at once.
The main thing is, I'm not sure if modern Sheikah have the expertise to build it. Creation of ancient swords and the like took Robbie a century (albeit in unfavourable conditions). Autonomous robots are much more complex than that. Blight could be a variant of guardians but they would have to have been built by ancient Sheikah, 10k years ago.
i partly understand this but "the blights used to protect the divine beasts" are you thinking that they were made to protect the divine beast? sorry if im just not understanding it correctly
I LOVE this. I've literally had this convo with my partner I love the ideas presented here. I always just assumed they came with the Divine Beasts 😂 To be honest the entirety of mechanical parts on the blights AND Calamity Ganon, not to mention their weapons, has always kinda jist.. Gotten to me.
@@ABeautifulTraveler I mean, if you look at Guardian concept art, we nearly got eldritch horrors instead of cute robots. There definitely was an evil master plan in the background during production!
Spoilers for totk: drakenwild don't read this untill you beat the game on the true ending . . . . . . . The 5th sages robot I believe the blight weaponry was a attempt to reverse engineer her robots I assume the sheikah formed after the imprisoning war meaning the 5th sage would no longer be around but we know she left behind atleast 3 robots the sheikah found this and attempted to make the weaponry and masks so they could make there own version of the robots to fight against the great calamity Also to put it simply there weapons are just to big for anyone thats not a Gorin to use and even the Goron would struggle with them I also believe that the devine beasts where frist made for the sages because if you put on a devine beast mask the respective sage puts on there zonai masks and also how the armour for beating all the shrines looks like the frist weilder of the triforce of courage in the art depicting the calamity 10000 years ago Also most of the blight ganons don't exactly look finished always missing legs most with one arm and a incomplete torso the one that looks the most complete is thunderblight ganon who is arguably the hardest one I believe this was caused simply because they just weren't finished by the time the frist calamity happened and they had nothing to hold them together with sense sheikah technology seems to have there robots physically bound together instead of floating via zonai eletricty stuff like the soilder constructs ganon used malice as a sort of glue to hold them together and power them Speaking of how cool would it be if in the dlc there was finished versions of them we could fight and perhaps they even drop there parts we could fuse to our weapons that would be so cool Or even cooler the ability to ride em like the 5th sage To sum it up they where a attempt to reverse engineer the 5th sages robot to use against the calamity And I also want to steal thunderblight ganons yar har pirate hook to fuse with the master sword
Actually, I think you might be onto something, Sheikah stuff was clearly based on the Zonai tech, not just with the helmets but the designs of the divine beasts and energy weapons themselves. We've also seen that Zonai tech can be corrupted, a weakness shared by Sheikah machines. This seems very probable, good catch! Though given that they have completed the Divine Beasts and Guardians, I think Blights have also been finished but have since broken down.
@@Drakenwild i was always under the impression that shekiah tech couldn't erode Also why weren't the lets call them devine gaurdians instead of blight gannons Why wherent they in the illustrations of the original great calamity yet stuff like the devine beast and Spoilers the armour you get for completing all the shrines was there
@@joel-uw2lg I have no idea but it does feel like they had all the tools necessary to make autonomous robots, it feels like they should have been able to complete them. Here's a thought - the pilots on the tapestry don't look like respective races at all. Perhaps it is a drawing of early version of the Blights as they were before they got taken over, then Sheikah might have worked on improving them but were unable to finish due to Hyrule's demand they throw away their technology?
Perhaps the blights were some kind of security system for the divine beasts that got taken over by Ganon during the great calamity Or The blight ganons were designed specifically to take out the champions and when the blights took over the guardians they developed weapons to that would allow them to carry out there tasks
I honestly thought that the blights didn't beat them physically but took over the champions bodies, and that would explain why the deceased champions only took form after the corresponding blight was defeated, and only talked at key points in the quest to retake the Devine Beasts because they had a small amount of power left. Would also explain why the weapons the blights used were so similar to the corresponding champions weapon
Actually, we know there were multiple, as Calamity Ganon has copies of them, and dubious canonicity aside, Mutated Ganon has even more of these unique weapons.
I must know, what is the accent of our amazing narrator? Also, didn't the Yiga break when betrayed by the king 10,000 years ago, which would've included builders of the ancient tech?
I'm Polish! And not necessarily. We don't actually know how much time passed between the ancient Calamity and the Hyrule's king turning on the Sheikah. I've always assumed it to be at least a single generation gap, possibly more.
It's really easy to say that that ancient King was in the wrong, but then I consider the Sheikah who became the Yiga. Their reaction to the King's decree wasn't just refusal to obey or rebellion against the crown or leaving the country. It was to turn away from Hylia and start worshiping Ganon. Despite everything they should have known about how Ganon operates. And as far as I know the Kings of Hyrule haven't ever spoken on behalf of Hylia, even if their family is closely tied to her. With that in mind, and assuming the schism was that same generation alive at the time the King gave his decree, I can't help but wonder if that King had some very valid concerns about a good percentage of the people who had the best access too all that amazingly powerful magitech. I can only come to the conclusion that it was probably more complicated than the basic story told and that is impossible to know for sure without more information.
Something I feel like Draken didn't mention is that Ganon's weapons are the same as the blights' weapons. So, we could say that some of Ganon's own power went into strengthening the blights... which still leaves the question of how Ganon got the weapons in the first place.
No they didn't. They appear in two separate memories in BotW, they were very much in operation before the Calamity. And, according to the story of the Sheikah, they formed from the Sheikah who defected after the king ordered all ancient technology abandoned or destroyed.
Spoiler Alert for totk: I think the the weapons are parts of elite guardians inside the divine beasts, but instead of mechanical robots designed to assist or protect the champions like other commenters theorized, they functions more like mechs or exoskeletons the champions can use to boost their fighting capabilities strongly, similar to the sage of spirit (mineru) in totk. This theory is also supported by the yiga's advanced research on the zonai technology (seriously, they're the only ones making war machines or any zonai tech at all while the sheikah were still figuring out how the sled works). See, in the final master kohga battle underneath rito village, he whips out a literal construct (which, proven by his speech was built instead of being found) and rides it around as a mech suit; I theorize that the yigas were inspired by the sheikah exoskeletons they found on the divine beasts (which they later bring to ganon) and decided to built one themselves out of zonai tech in order to defeat link, given how much he "struggled" (lorewise, thunderblight, that one is actually pretty hard) against the blight ganons when he battled them. The only plot holes there is is how the sheikah managed to foresee the future, crafting the exact matching weapons for the champions which they have no idea who they are (the sheikah pilots in the first great calamity probably used those weapons and their future generations coincidentally happened to have the same kind though)
What if the weapons were originally built for the pilots, but were inside storage compartments in the beasts nobody could open? and the blight corrupting it was the first one who could force the lock?
I thought about that, too, cause it is interesting that Blights use weapon type exactly matching the pilot. This idea folds in on itself though because for it to work, Sheikah would have to be able to see the future, so they can tailor weapon type to each pilot, and still fail to predict Blights taking over. Alternative idea is that these were made for the first generation of pilots and were meant to be passed down to current group but Blights took them over before it was possible.
This felt like going down a rabbit hole during scripting though, so I refrained ^^' I might still make a full video about it as a follow up in the future!
What if a higher aptitude for the specific weapons in some way made piloting the specific divine beast more intrinsic or somehow meant an individual had a higher aptitude for piloting divine beasts. This would explain how these weapons made for the original champions are the same types that the "current" champions used and was meant to be passed down or even used as a test for pilot "worthiness". And maybe our champions were not quite adequate and that could also be why ganon was able to corrupt them and then hain acsses to the weapons or something like that. Someone with a bigger brain than I could sort out the rest
@@Drakenwildplaying TOTK now makes me think that this idea of the weapons already existing, but being taken over is more likely than it first seemed.
After all, I don’t think the zonai expected Ganondorf to take over one of their constructs, and the Yiga know how to use zonai devices in creative ways already, so I think that what happened was a kind of combination of the Yiga creating their own weapons out of already existing ones, and the calamity’s influence on the sheika technology.
@@Drakenwildwhat if the weapons were for the original pilots
Also they could’ve made the weapons according to the most used weapons of the respective tribes
Coming from a post Totk perspective, maybe the blights were the sheikah’s attempt at creating the constructs, specifically Mineru’s construct. We see all the blights have faces, and with sheikah tech often being attempts at imitating zonai tech, this seems likely to me. Because the Sheikah didn’t have access to fuse for the hands, they simply made the weapons their actual hands.
Mini theory: The blights never originally had their elemental powers, but obtained them through the bodies of the dead chanpions (ik age of calamity disproves thjs but its not cannon)
Yeah, it's pretty likely that Sheikah built those to replicate the large constructs of Mineru, I agree.
You: "Yiga are bumbling idiots!"
Me: *Entirely sips my hot chocolate* "Yes, yes, and yes. The Yiga Clan are indeed idiots" ✨
They do be loveable though :D
@@Drakenwild I was summoned from Bigotilyou's server ✨🎮🍃
I guessed so ^^ Thaks for being here :D
@@Drakenwild You're welcome! ✨🌸😄
Glorious idiots
Windblight Ganon is a direct reference to Samus Aran, who has the exact same weapon.
I always wanted to take their arms and use them as weapons
That would be such a fun mechanic! Sort of like that one Skyward Sword boss but more permanent xD
I have really nothing to add. I'm just enjoying my binge watch of your videos Drakenwild.
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My guess is that perhaps the Blights were originally specialized Guardians designed to protect the operators of the Divine Beasts and then Ganon took them over just like the rest of the Guardians.
That's a very interesting idea, I have not thought of that! It's also notable that Blights share the weapon type with their respective Champion, which could hint at this being the case.
I want to meet the guy who made the yar har super speed pirate
Idea: Blights are unfinished guardians left inside divine beasts that were originally supposed to be finished, but werent.
I haven't thought of that! It could be a possibility :D
@@Drakenwild I was thinking that maybe the divine beasts were supposed to have a system that the sheika were trying to implement that would protect the champions in case gannon's forces attacked the divine beast, but were not done on time when the calamity hit. Ganon probably used these unfinished sheika parts to create the blights. My guess is that they were meant to be kind of like guardian stalkers, larger, can hold weapons, and could likely shoot multiple lasers at once.
The main thing is, I'm not sure if modern Sheikah have the expertise to build it. Creation of ancient swords and the like took Robbie a century (albeit in unfavourable conditions). Autonomous robots are much more complex than that.
Blight could be a variant of guardians but they would have to have been built by ancient Sheikah, 10k years ago.
@@Drakenwild I never considered that, but they couldve been used to pilot the divine beasts in the calamity that took place before this one.
@@Froggard_Fazfrog they could. It would be one hell of a twist if it turned out that previous Champions weren't even people to begin with.
I think they are like hologram weapons that the blights used to protect the divine beasts.
i partly understand this but "the blights used to protect the divine beasts"
are you thinking that they were made to protect the divine beast?
sorry if im just not understanding it correctly
I LOVE this.
I've literally had this convo with my partner
I love the ideas presented here.
I always just assumed they came with the Divine Beasts 😂
To be honest the entirety of mechanical parts on the blights AND Calamity Ganon, not to mention their weapons, has always kinda jist.. Gotten to me.
They're really creepy, aren't they...
@@Drakenwild Beyond!
It feels like there was an evil master plan in the background even during their production!
@@ABeautifulTraveler I mean, if you look at Guardian concept art, we nearly got eldritch horrors instead of cute robots. There definitely was an evil master plan in the background during production!
@@Drakenwild There's real nightmare fuel in the concept art
@@ABeautifulTraveler honestly, tone of the game would have been very different if that made it through.
I have a pretty good theory but the problem is it is related to heavy spoilers for totk
If you want to you can post it in the reply and I'll get back to it once I beat the game. Provided I remember about it.
Spoilers for totk: drakenwild don't read this untill you beat the game on the true ending
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The 5th sages robot
I believe the blight weaponry was a attempt to reverse engineer her robots
I assume the sheikah formed after the imprisoning war meaning the 5th sage would no longer be around but we know she left behind atleast 3 robots the sheikah found this and attempted to make the weaponry and masks so they could make there own version of the robots to fight against the great calamity
Also to put it simply there weapons are just to big for anyone thats not a Gorin to use and even the Goron would struggle with them
I also believe that the devine beasts where frist made for the sages because if you put on a devine beast mask the respective sage puts on there zonai masks and also how the armour for beating all the shrines looks like the frist weilder of the triforce of courage in the art depicting the calamity 10000 years ago
Also most of the blight ganons don't exactly look finished always missing legs most with one arm and a incomplete torso the one that looks the most complete is thunderblight ganon who is arguably the hardest one I believe this was caused simply because they just weren't finished by the time the frist calamity happened and they had nothing to hold them together with sense sheikah technology seems to have there robots physically bound together instead of floating via zonai eletricty stuff like the soilder constructs ganon used malice as a sort of glue to hold them together and power them
Speaking of how cool would it be if in the dlc there was finished versions of them we could fight and perhaps they even drop there parts we could fuse to our weapons that would be so cool Or even cooler the ability to ride em like the 5th sage
To sum it up they where a attempt to reverse engineer the 5th sages robot to use against the calamity
And I also want to steal thunderblight ganons yar har pirate hook to fuse with the master sword
Actually, I think you might be onto something, Sheikah stuff was clearly based on the Zonai tech, not just with the helmets but the designs of the divine beasts and energy weapons themselves. We've also seen that Zonai tech can be corrupted, a weakness shared by Sheikah machines. This seems very probable, good catch!
Though given that they have completed the Divine Beasts and Guardians, I think Blights have also been finished but have since broken down.
@@Drakenwild i was always under the impression that shekiah tech couldn't erode
Also why weren't the lets call them devine gaurdians instead of blight gannons
Why wherent they in the illustrations of the original great calamity yet stuff like the devine beast and
Spoilers
the armour you get for completing all the shrines was there
@@joel-uw2lg I have no idea but it does feel like they had all the tools necessary to make autonomous robots, it feels like they should have been able to complete them.
Here's a thought - the pilots on the tapestry don't look like respective races at all. Perhaps it is a drawing of early version of the Blights as they were before they got taken over, then Sheikah might have worked on improving them but were unable to finish due to Hyrule's demand they throw away their technology?
Perhaps the blights were some kind of security system for the divine beasts that got taken over by Ganon during the great calamity
Or
The blight ganons were designed specifically to take out the champions and when the blights took over the guardians they developed weapons to that would allow them to carry out there tasks
i think ganon just stapled a bunch of weapons together
Not sure if he's that technically adept, lol
yea thats what i have been thinking but after watching the video im not sure about that
My guess is that it was made out of spare Sheikah parts or from guardian scouts
It could have been, the main problem is whether or not Yiga have an engineer capable of making it work ^^'
I honestly thought that the blights didn't beat them physically but took over the champions bodies, and that would explain why the deceased champions only took form after the corresponding blight was defeated, and only talked at key points in the quest to retake the Devine Beasts because they had a small amount of power left. Would also explain why the weapons the blights used were so similar to the corresponding champions weapon
Actually, we know there were multiple, as Calamity Ganon has copies of them, and dubious canonicity aside, Mutated Ganon has even more of these unique weapons.
I must know, what is the accent of our amazing narrator? Also, didn't the Yiga break when betrayed by the king 10,000 years ago, which would've included builders of the ancient tech?
I'm Polish! And not necessarily. We don't actually know how much time passed between the ancient Calamity and the Hyrule's king turning on the Sheikah. I've always assumed it to be at least a single generation gap, possibly more.
@@Drakenwild I remember you mentioning Poland in one of your videos, but I don't recall you specifying that you were, so I didn't want to assume. Lol
@@anthonibrookshire3867 no worries! ^^
@@Drakenwild oh thats interesting i dont think i have heard a polish accent before
It's really easy to say that that ancient King was in the wrong, but then I consider the Sheikah who became the Yiga. Their reaction to the King's decree wasn't just refusal to obey or rebellion against the crown or leaving the country. It was to turn away from Hylia and start worshiping Ganon. Despite everything they should have known about how Ganon operates. And as far as I know the Kings of Hyrule haven't ever spoken on behalf of Hylia, even if their family is closely tied to her. With that in mind, and assuming the schism was that same generation alive at the time the King gave his decree, I can't help but wonder if that King had some very valid concerns about a good percentage of the people who had the best access too all that amazingly powerful magitech. I can only come to the conclusion that it was probably more complicated than the basic story told and that is impossible to know for sure without more information.
Something I feel like Draken didn't mention is that Ganon's weapons are the same as the blights' weapons. So, we could say that some of Ganon's own power went into strengthening the blights... which still leaves the question of how Ganon got the weapons in the first place.
That's a very fair point I missed entirely, yeah.
I think the weapons came from Calamity Ganon itself.
Where did the weapons come from on Calamity Ganon’s body?
The yiga
I think I heard the yiga formed after the calamity,after divine beast excavation
No they didn't. They appear in two separate memories in BotW, they were very much in operation before the Calamity. And, according to the story of the Sheikah, they formed from the Sheikah who defected after the king ordered all ancient technology abandoned or destroyed.
loved it!
Glad you liked it! :D
Spoiler Alert for totk:
I think the the weapons are parts of elite guardians inside the divine beasts, but instead of mechanical robots designed to assist or protect the champions like other commenters theorized, they functions more like mechs or exoskeletons the champions can use to boost their fighting capabilities strongly, similar to the sage of spirit (mineru) in totk. This theory is also supported by the yiga's advanced research on the zonai technology (seriously, they're the only ones making war machines or any zonai tech at all while the sheikah were still figuring out how the sled works). See, in the final master kohga battle underneath rito village, he whips out a literal construct (which, proven by his speech was built instead of being found) and rides it around as a mech suit; I theorize that the yigas were inspired by the sheikah exoskeletons they found on the divine beasts (which they later bring to ganon) and decided to built one themselves out of zonai tech in order to defeat link, given how much he "struggled" (lorewise, thunderblight, that one is actually pretty hard) against the blight ganons when he battled them. The only plot holes there is is how the sheikah managed to foresee the future, crafting the exact matching weapons for the champions which they have no idea who they are (the sheikah pilots in the first great calamity probably used those weapons and their future generations coincidentally happened to have the same kind though)
That is an interesting idea, I like it!