Adam Savage said "Buy all your tools cheap, and then if something breaks it means that you use that tool a lot, so buy an expensive version of that tool"
This is what my father-in-law always says, and I used to agree until I burned up my Menards $20 random orbital sander. It took a couple years. I replaced it with a Makita and instantly regretted using the cheap one for so many hours. The Makita was over twice as fast, and the vibration wasn't even comparable. The idea of buying cheap I still support, but sometimes just buy something decent to begin with.
This is kind of my harbor freight strategy. Mainly for tools that don't require a lot of accuracy and/or quality. I have a harbor freight rotary hammer drill that works fine.
@@fl5966 , yeah, its situational, some tools you should just go buy the nice one first and some it doesn't matter. I'd say a quality sander is worth the money because its a tool that requires accuracy and comfort.
Festool inspected Cameron's van but didn't offer to be a tool sponsor for Scott Brown Carpentry??? Come on Festool. Hook Scott up with all the tools. He Is the perfect ambassador for Festool.😉😉😉😉
@@nmoran2046 I was gonna say the same thing . I've worn my stiletto down to a nub.lol. replaced the handle twice.the eating gave me sore joints. The shock is the worst!
Everyone on my crew uses estwing and I used one for years. I'm just getting old. Lighter is better. I buy my boots by how light they are these days! Lol
I completely agree with Cameron if you have the money “it’s better to have the tool and not need than need it and not have it” I still love these videos keep up the amazing work Scott
I actually have both those first two hammers. The expensive one and the cheap one. I use the tiny/cheap one just as much. It's great for when I do finishing and cabinetry!! No hate. Cheers from Canada!
You, Paerau and Cameron make a good couple together. I bought myself a Stanley Anti Fibe hammer, which is quite expensive for me but it has been worth every penny I spent on it. Love watching your videos! Cheers from Holland.
Also, the side nail puller on the Stiletto: The nail has to be driven almost the entire way, only then can you get the right amount of leverage. A co-worker uses it to get nails out of concrete (which normally requires a 'gooseneck' prybar). Once the nail is sticking up any more than say half an inch you lose all the leverage with that side nail puller and would be best off switching to the claw. So in short, the side nail puller works but only in specific situations. But in that situation it allows you to put a ton of force onto the nail, which can be a serious time saver when you don't have a pry-bar handy. PS sorry for spamming the comments ;-)
Regarding 0:19, the Great Neck Saw M8C Wood Claw Hammer is actually a light duty hammer since its weight is only 8 ounces. Its construction consists of a drop forged steel hammer head fixed onto a hardwood handle. An eight ounce hammer is suitable for small nails. On the other hand, a 16 ounce hammer is considered to be a medium duty hammer. Hammers heavier than 20 ounces are considered to be heavy duty and suitable for efficiently hammering heavy nails but they are not ideally suited for brads or for tacks. Tools should be used for the jobs that they are intended for in order to achieve best results. Merely comparing the prices of tools is not a good indicator as to the suitability of tools for the jobs that they are intended for.
Considering how much tools cost in New Zealand (with shipping) Cameron must be charging his customers an absolute fortune, he has more Festool tools than a Festool showroom
the return of the hammer video. your first one was how I found your channel. Scott check out the toughbuilt C700 saw horses. I think they might be right for your set up. i love mine.
Matt P it’s between $70-95 here in aus for abn Chippy’s but if your on hourly most people will just give day rates around the $650+ gst area plus or minus a $100
I think this channel is just as much cinematography as it is building, review cheapest camera on Amazon vs your current set up. Let's see if you can salvage through editing hahan
Stiletto all the way, baby! I love my 15oz stiletto. For someone like me who's had carpal tunnel in both hands spending the extra cheese for a light weight but beast of a hammer just made sense. Lighter than my old 16oz estwing but hits like a 23oz.
Mat Mundt Due to the outrageous price of them I watched a SHIT TON of reviews on both the Martinez and stiletto and saw more negative reviews for Martinez. And I liked that stiletto only has the face that's replaceable and 'may' come loose but the Martinez has the whole head that 'may' come loose.
I got no business in Carpentry but I love my Est Wing Ball Pin and Club hammer that can take abuse without breaking the hammer shaft as I was sick of replacing broken hammers.
Sheet metal worker here from local 105 in California. Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy the vids and if I wasn’t a tin knocker I’d probably be a Carpenter. Cheers
I organized a possibly the first Occidental electricians belt brought into New Zealand around 15 years ago, however in our damp climate I done away with leather and prefer the Dewalt ballistic nylon tool belts. I also used Skillers electricians belts.
Many years ago I had a coworker buy a hammer at a flea market. He bought a framer style fiberglass handle. Knocking around in the basement during the concrete phase of the remodel the head of the new hammer mushroomed before the mild steel stakes did. I think he paid $5-10 usd then. Since then I’ve spent way more on hammers even though I’m out of the trade.
Being a DIYer and not a tradie I go for the "budget for use" method. I have a lot of Ozito and XU1 hand tools because im NOT using them every day. Still got the cordless drill almost 10 years on, and only tool that has broken down was the orbital sander (which was fixed by taking it apart and clearing all the dust that had got past the crappy o ring). If I was using them every day, I'd probably go through a dozen a year meaning I would have spent more than one of the more expensive brands that would have taken the punishment (same reason I buy $250 boots that last me 2-3 years, rather than $50 ones that last me 3 months). Benchtop tools are a different matter though, cheap tools = cheap made = sloppy cutting guides. Last thing I want is a rip fence moving mid cut.
Hello, im a furniture assembler in brazil. I use one just like this for twelve years now. It would be ridicolous using a framing hammer in my job. Nice vid thoug. Thanks bro.
My next hammer will be a 14oz, just not sure which one it will be. I like Paerau's thinking on the screwdrivers, tools like that I but a cheap set, the one that gets used the most and wears out I replace with a better quality model. Surprisingly that hasn't happened yet ☺️
I started off with black & decker circular saw,empire level, plumb hammer a few tools in my finish carpentry company. Moved up to Dewalt saw, dead on, estwing,hammers, Milwaukee. Lufkin shockforce tape step up from Stanley. If your going to make a living need tools to do the job hold up and not fail. ,
Cheers man for making these videos! Made me get my love back for Carpentry and now I’m back out doing my apprenticeship finally with a good boss who’ll actually sign me up after 3 years of shit bosses! Finally doing the Carpentry I love! Decks and pergolas
I have an estwing 24oz and watched the misses try hit in tent pegs with a cheap hammer it was taking so long I had to finish the job, few weeks later I went out and got her a 20 Oz estwing cause every women needs a good estwing.
Actually, that would be pretty cool! And do it on wet timber aswell. And the different stamped ones from different suppliers, cos most of them are shit.
@@ScottBrownCarpentry Hi, this is the one we've been using for a while. They're branded Würth but look the same as the one on this picture i'm linking below. They seem to be more reliable staying in their sheath than the neon green ones branded Pica, which we used earlier. Switched to Würth because of this reason. I think they're called deep hole markers, but we use them as a general carpenter's pencil. The sharpener sucks though, i just use my razor knife for that - whenever i need the the tip to be really sharp. I always keep two of those in a leg pocket on my work pants. One has the basic gray graphite type of tip, the other a red one. The graphite one, especially, can be wiped fairly easily off of surfaces (at least if used a light hand marking), which comes handy every so often. cdn.eazyauction.de/a8/a894d53623bd48b8eda3e79e0170192fa9d84b8040f884efb600ecc077d92a32109903829dd2c2fc8aec2702596e94a8/img/500x500_3a26341626cead8dd29552ab82a8b4bebd2a3f24.jpeg
With a good hammer, you should be able to drive a nail with no more than *TWO* strokes . . . and one little tap at the end if the head is standing a bit proud.
@Scott Brown Carpentry I only wish there was good men like you and Paerau when I tried to get a trade back in the mid 1990's .It was a different world back then indeed
Hello Scott, in one of your episodes, you touched on the subject of how successful facebook ads can be to find new clients. Since then, you haven’t touched on that subject again. I would appreciate if you could shed more light on how many clients you actually (firm clients and not just one or two calls leading to nowhere) did you land from that campaign of yours. It would be nice to hear that.
I bought a 16 ounce Estwing when I was 18 in 1978 when I started a job as an electrician helper. The job boss always said he could tell if I was working hard because that hammer would sing a song that no other hammer on the job made since I had the only Estwing. Somewhere along the line I bought a 20 ounce Estwing but I don’t remember exactly when. The point of all this is that I’ve still got both hammers and they’re both still in A plus 1 condition. From my perspective if you don’t lose them they last perpetually forever.
Hello mate! I really enjoy your videos and am a new subscriber. I'm a contractor in the states who has dreamed of living in New Zealand for the last 10 years.
Very entertaining. I love my hammers. I never get rid of any hammer, or more frequently any hammer head, that I buy or comes my way. Each tells so much about the user and the use and the era and the economy and technology of the time of production and use. In many ways the hammer is the primal tool, and the tell of the time. A particular hammer will work for a person whose physical and psychological make up fits with that hammer. If you have a hammer that you must use, you learn how to train your body and mind to use it well and properly.
I had an estwing but I didn't really rate it over any other hammer. My Bacho is amazing. Something about the curve in the handle . It's more like a hatchet handle. 18oz just right wait. Pulls missed drywall screws out sweet which is its primary use .
I'm a carpenter in Australia and i have a ute. Yes the van would be nice and can fit more tools, but my ute is a 4x4 and doubles as my camping/beach car. That was my reasoning for getting the ute. Would be nice to be able to afford both haha
As a tradesmen there is nothing like working with high quality tools. There are tools in my tool bag like a cheap hammer that I use for the odd use but almost all my site tools are Festool and it hurts to buy them but I know they work really well all the time. Light, strudy, well built, comfortable to use.
The only tool I have since I started twenty years ago is my ck adjustable spanner. Everything else has been lost, broken, worn-out or stolen. Power tool Wise is a Makita 9inch grinder it's about sixteen years old.
Kameron got the sweetest van boys, especially got the competition won before it started. Having said that, you might want to get him some help for his tool addiction...
I can see the need to manufacture such cheap and low quality hammers as well. It all depends who buys the tool and what he needs it for. My neighbour has a hammer like that, he uses it a few times a year for little diy jobs around the house. He doesn't need anything fancy. But if you use something daily and make a living out of it, then yeah, best to invest. My problem with titanium hammers- I simply can't get one. I work on big commercial projects where fancy and expensive tools, hand or power tools, often get stolen. Even cheaper stuff gets pinched. This year I had to replace: 2 pairs of tin snips, a makita charger, and 2 hand saws. Also someone needed my jigsaw to cut something without telling me when I went away to get fixings, I found it lying on the ground in a different part of the building site, damaged- the base plate was loose and few screws were missing... And it wasn't even a bad year so far... I'm currently using a 20 oz Dewalt straight claw hammer- quality is alright, and I like the way it feels when I'm swinging, had a bad wrist injury 10 years ago, resulting in surgery and a metal screw permanently fixed into one of the bones, and I noticed that some hammers cause me discomfort, not the dewalt though.
When I was a kid I once made the mistake of buying a cheap 16oz claw hammer, only to find the claw was softer than the wire nails I was planting, so the bite was chewed to heck before I'd even pulled a half dozen nails. Buying cheap throw away tools isn't the way to go, but I was young and eager to have a toolkit and the heap of crap I ended up literally throwing away was such a waste of money and also cost me too much time on job sites trying to find work-arounds because e.g. the claw was useless on my hammer, or my DIY grade saw kept binding in the cut because it's plate wasn't taper ground. I'm not saying buy diamond studded or gold plated equipment, but always buy the best you can justify and suits your own budget. Tools you can readily replace if broken/damaged, but won't break the bank if or when that time arrives.
Reminded me of my apprentice days. Hammering in nails and my journeyman roaring at me..."for fuck sake min! Yer like a bolt o lighting....... Ye never hit the same place twice!!!! AHH, them's the days.😄
When you roll up to the jobsite, the other guys have their own vans. The one is your employee and the other guy has his own carpentry business but you work on the same job?
No hammer is worth $300. When I was on the tools, I used an Estwing 24oz curved claw ( English Pattern) with nylon handle and thought that was expensive, but it never failed me and was always suitable for every joinery and construction job.
@@retardedamericans1 Well using any hammer with tennis elbow would give you problems. Same as if you have problems with frozen shoulders which is also common with joiners.
I thought the UK was bad for rip off prices compared to the USA . But you guys are getting shafted . 300 dollars for that Vaughan Dalluge . It's £130 here in the UK .
222.9 per litre?! Holy crap in Melbourne we were going berserk because it got to $1.60 per litre. No wonder so many kiwis are coming over here. I don't blame you!
I've never had to pay shipping on Amazon, I couldn't imagine paying more for shipping than the tool itself. That sucks. Also I've used many random hammers, and I don't think I'll ever be spending $300 or more. I can buy $5 hammers at the hardware store, but yes you'd be better off buying a BIGGER hammer, which would cost a little more, but we're still talking more like $30. I also really like wood handles over metal. My father used a metal one for many years building houses and I just never liked the feel of that rubber grip. You've definitely got to spend some time with tools to understand what you like, but I'll stand by the $300 being crazy haha.
Stanley is good enough for me I don’t mind draper either My stanley chisels where used for 50 years by the who gave me my workshop set up and they’re still going strong 5 years on from him giving me them Back story the guy was addicted to carving he used those chisels more than anything else in life
I'm getting into construction estimating so I'm always thinking about productivity, and whether or not the extra expense of the tool increases productivity enough during it's lifetime to justify it's cost. Another more 'human' factor is job enjoyment; better tools make the job more enjoyable. The boring conclusion I'm reaching is that mid-range tools are the way to go. But this might vary depending on the class of tool. I work on larger commercial construction sites where tools get stolen more frequently as well, so I'll buy cheap when I can get away with it because I know the more it costs the more likely it is to grow legs. Stiletto hammers have been known to lose their nail holder magnets. Kind of a shame because previously that was never a problem. I think Milwakee? bought Stiletto.
Really depends on what you want to do with it. My mom's in her 70s, has a hammer in her tool drawer that gets used a time or three a year when she wants to hang a new picture. It looks a lot like that $7 hammer, and it's more than enough for hanging a few pictures here and there. Might not be good for building a house, but she's never going to build a house.
Iv owned the stiletto 14oz for years and loved it. But the handles loose, alenkeys hard to get to and rounded, Claw tips are worn, magnets missing and head doesn't sit straight. Have just purchased the martinez m4 with m1 head. Only early days but so far its way better.
do a video on how to become a carpenter and all the stuff you need, im in yr 11 and thinking about becoming a carpenter id appreciate the help mate cheers
I feel those NZD prices here in Canada! I’ve got that 14oz stiletto mini and the 16oz wooden straight handled stiletto and I find myself going to that one much more than the 14oz, even for finish work. I really don’t like the rubber grip on the mini and when choking up on the hammer, the titanium neck is not comfortable at all, and it’s more than double the price! We’ll see how long they both last...but my 10oz wood handled stiletto has been my trim hammer for almost 10 years and I’ve used it for everything and it’s still going. I really wanted to try the Dalluge like you’ve got Scott, that looks very comfortable to use, but it wasn’t in stock when I went.
@Kyle Jones I'm in Canada as well and I just about chocked when I heard Scott say he paid $80 for his estwing. I paid less than half that for my 22oz waffle head estwing. Although that was over 10 years ago. I love my hammer, it's well worn in and I've beat it up pretty good, but it's still going strong.
I work in concrete if you’re a new labor I’d say buy a cheap good hammer just to have a hammer instead of asking around for one when you need it. Always best to at least have something rather than nothing.
Question for carpenters: do you still actually use Hammers for framing instead of framing nail guns nowadays? In what situation would you use it over a framing gun (don't say when you don't enough room)
Bad Dog Media yes, we use hammers to pull nails out, tack plywood on walls and roofs, knock over a nailed stud or rafter, drive nails in when they don’t go in all the way with the nail guns, pry things over with the claw; hammers are very useful when framing
I know this is a year old. If the tool are that expensive there, are tradesmen paid more or have some sort of "bonus". That metabo nailer got me surprised, I could get one for 500CAN
The most expensive hammer i've seen was around 50 euros, and was a stanley brand hammer, with 750gr. I bought a fully forged hammer for my job (i don't use it everyday) for 12 euros. I usually just do tiles, floors, finishing stuff, but when it's needed we do formwork too, however, if yoh use it every single day, I must say, buy something long lasting, comfortable, high quallity, because if you have a shitty tool, the job won't be has good, you'll have more wasted time and it's overall a pain in the butt to trying to do something and it just not cutting it.
Adam Savage said "Buy all your tools cheap, and then if something breaks it means that you use that tool a lot, so buy an expensive version of that tool"
Very smart opinion. Greettins from chilli.
i like this
This is what my father-in-law always says, and I used to agree until I burned up my Menards $20 random orbital sander. It took a couple years. I replaced it with a Makita and instantly regretted using the cheap one for so many hours. The Makita was over twice as fast, and the vibration wasn't even comparable. The idea of buying cheap I still support, but sometimes just buy something decent to begin with.
This is kind of my harbor freight strategy. Mainly for tools that don't require a lot of accuracy and/or quality. I have a harbor freight rotary hammer drill that works fine.
@@fl5966 , yeah, its situational, some tools you should just go buy the nice one first and some it doesn't matter. I'd say a quality sander is worth the money because its a tool that requires accuracy and comfort.
Milled head: "When you are doing finishing, everyone knows that you missed." LOL, absolutely true!
had one of those 7 dollars hammers, the head ended up flying off. Then again I was using it to break bricks.
Cameron is great, I love his attitude about work and tools.👍 from 🏴 Scotland 🏴
Mark D thanks mark
I agree, from U.S.
Festool inspected Cameron's van but didn't offer to be a tool sponsor for Scott Brown Carpentry??? Come on Festool. Hook Scott up with all the tools. He Is the perfect ambassador for Festool.😉😉😉😉
@Captain Commodore you're right, overpriced junk
@@jamesandayladodge4815 junk? which ones?
Scott who almost exclusively uses Makita, you mean?
Festool should sponsor Kameron
Estwing 20oz steel straight claw. 25 years of constant use. When I retire it’s going into my trophy case. LoL
Chris Moody North Americans industry standard I swing a stiletto and I would never go back so says my elbow
@@nmoran2046 I was gonna say the same thing . I've worn my stiletto down to a nub.lol. replaced the handle twice.the eating gave me sore joints. The shock is the worst!
Everyone on my crew uses estwing and I used one for years. I'm just getting old. Lighter is better. I buy my boots by how light they are these days! Lol
@diver dave my boss swears by estwing.his looks like a ball peen hammer it so worn. Lol.
My brother at Downers wear out a Estwing and a wheel barrow every 8 months doing mainly form work.
I completely agree with Cameron if you have the money “it’s better to have the tool and not need than need it and not have it” I still love these videos keep up the amazing work Scott
Carson watkins thanks mate 😃
You hit the nail on the head there! Spend what you can and learn what's best along the way.
David Daniels Craftsman no pun invented 😂
I actually have both those first two hammers. The expensive one and the cheap one. I use the tiny/cheap one just as much. It's great for when I do finishing and cabinetry!! No hate. Cheers from Canada!
You, Paerau and Cameron make a good couple together. I bought myself a Stanley Anti Fibe hammer, which is quite expensive for me but it has been worth every penny I spent on it. Love watching your videos! Cheers from Holland.
Also, the side nail puller on the Stiletto: The nail has to be driven almost the entire way, only then can you get the right amount of leverage. A co-worker uses it to get nails out of concrete (which normally requires a 'gooseneck' prybar). Once the nail is sticking up any more than say half an inch you lose all the leverage with that side nail puller and would be best off switching to the claw. So in short, the side nail puller works but only in specific situations. But in that situation it allows you to put a ton of force onto the nail, which can be a serious time saver when you don't have a pry-bar handy.
PS sorry for spamming the comments ;-)
Regarding 0:19, the Great Neck Saw M8C Wood Claw Hammer is actually a light duty hammer since its weight is only 8 ounces. Its construction consists of a drop forged steel hammer head fixed onto a hardwood handle. An eight ounce hammer is suitable for small nails. On the other hand, a 16 ounce hammer is considered to be a medium duty hammer. Hammers heavier than 20 ounces are considered to be heavy duty and suitable for efficiently hammering heavy nails but they are not ideally suited for brads or for tacks. Tools should be used for the jobs that they are intended for in order to achieve best results. Merely comparing the prices of tools is not a good indicator as to the suitability of tools for the jobs that they are intended for.
Considering how much tools cost in New Zealand (with shipping) Cameron must be charging his customers an absolute fortune, he has more Festool tools than a Festool showroom
really have to love blowing hard earned money when you go festool. watch Ave dissect ua-cam.com/video/oezp-_DcUgg/v-deo.html
Vlogging while driving the Greenlane Roundabout = hardcore!
the return of the hammer video. your first one was how I found your channel. Scott check out the toughbuilt C700 saw horses. I think they might be right for your set up. i love mine.
I'm on my 2nd set. The first set I had for almost 4 years but I put them through a beating
that is how I found this channel as well
Always love to hear how people found the channel, cheers man
Holly Crap!!! The cost of doing business in NZ is crazy. What prices do you charge for typical carpentry work?
Carpenter rates are from $60 - 75nzd an hour. Charged rate
Doing anything in NZ is expensive! Very low wages too.
@@mattp5518 i only get 25 an hour for being a apprentice atm, 60 - 75 sounds so good for me hahah
Matt P it’s between $70-95 here in aus for abn Chippy’s but if your on hourly most people will just give day rates around the $650+ gst area plus or minus a $100
At least 50$ an hour anywhere in the world if you take it seriously and have the experience and equipment
vaughn dalluge titanium 16oz on Walmart for $70 here in states. I had one way back when the hammers patent was under Douglas Hammer. Very good hammer.
Picard the hammer for Carpenter. Three inches nail with one hit.
Nice work in a nice Country.
Greetings a carpenter "Zimmermann" from Germany
I think this channel is just as much cinematography as it is building, review cheapest camera on Amazon vs your current set up. Let's see if you can salvage through editing hahan
Haha oh that sounds painful
Stiletto all the way, baby! I love my 15oz stiletto. For someone like me who's had carpal tunnel in both hands spending the extra cheese for a light weight but beast of a hammer just made sense. Lighter than my old 16oz estwing but hits like a 23oz.
Yeap, Stilleto is great, but nowadays it's chineese company.
Iv had stiletto for years. Got martinez m4 with m1 head now. Way better.
Vadim Grebelny really? As far as I know they're still American made.
Mat Mundt Due to the outrageous price of them I watched a SHIT TON of reviews on both the Martinez and stiletto and saw more negative reviews for Martinez. And I liked that stiletto only has the face that's replaceable and 'may' come loose but the Martinez has the whole head that 'may' come loose.
The Festool Reps essentially said nothing about anything in particular lol. Gotta love company reps
Love this video! But, no Martinez was included?? :)
Yeeeeeeah! My tool is a Stellito! I’ve had that hammer for about 6/7 years now! Love it!
I got no business in Carpentry but I love my Est Wing Ball Pin and Club hammer that can take abuse without breaking the hammer shaft as I was sick of replacing broken hammers.
Sheet metal worker here from local 105 in California. Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy the vids and if I wasn’t a tin knocker I’d probably be a Carpenter. Cheers
It’s cool seeing occidental leather nailing bags in New Zealand they’re made in my home town right down the road from where I live now
I organized a possibly the first Occidental electricians belt brought into New Zealand around 15 years ago, however in our damp climate I done away with leather and prefer the Dewalt ballistic nylon tool belts. I also used Skillers electricians belts.
Many years ago I had a coworker buy a hammer at a flea market. He bought a framer style fiberglass handle. Knocking around in the basement during the concrete phase of the remodel the head of the new hammer mushroomed before the mild steel stakes did. I think he paid $5-10 usd then. Since then I’ve spent way more on hammers even though I’m out of the trade.
I'm just here for Paerau's banter.
Borrow Camerons!! classic...
I just hear Korg talking about hammas. “The hamma pulled you off?”
Being a DIYer and not a tradie I go for the "budget for use" method. I have a lot of Ozito and XU1 hand tools because im NOT using them every day. Still got the cordless drill almost 10 years on, and only tool that has broken down was the orbital sander (which was fixed by taking it apart and clearing all the dust that had got past the crappy o ring). If I was using them every day, I'd probably go through a dozen a year meaning I would have spent more than one of the more expensive brands that would have taken the punishment (same reason I buy $250 boots that last me 2-3 years, rather than $50 ones that last me 3 months). Benchtop tools are a different matter though, cheap tools = cheap made = sloppy cutting guides. Last thing I want is a rip fence moving mid cut.
Hello, im a furniture assembler in brazil.
I use one just like this for twelve years now.
It would be ridicolous using a framing hammer in my job.
Nice vid thoug.
Thanks bro.
Exactly, each hammer has a job according to its weight and size.
I but a $150 stiletto titanium hammer but got it on sale for 60. Favorite tool I own.
My next hammer will be a 14oz, just not sure which one it will be.
I like Paerau's thinking on the screwdrivers, tools like that I but a cheap set, the one that gets used the most and wears out I replace with a better quality model. Surprisingly that hasn't happened yet ☺️
Take a look at the 12 oz dewalt mig hammer I call it the ghetto stileto
I started off with black & decker circular saw,empire level, plumb hammer a few tools in my finish carpentry company.
Moved up to Dewalt saw, dead on, estwing,hammers, Milwaukee. Lufkin shockforce tape step up from Stanley.
If your going to make a living need tools to do the job hold up and not fail. ,
Cheers man for making these videos! Made me get my love back for Carpentry and now I’m back out doing my apprenticeship finally with a good boss who’ll actually sign me up after 3 years of shit bosses! Finally doing the Carpentry I love! Decks and pergolas
Holy sh*t those prices for the tools!!! I take for granted over here in America where the prices are now where near what you have to pay for them
I have an estwing 24oz and watched the misses try hit in tent pegs with a cheap hammer it was taking so long I had to finish the job, few weeks later I went out and got her a 20 Oz estwing cause every women needs a good estwing.
You guys could review a pencil and it would be awesome!!
Challenge accepted
@@ScottBrownCarpentry Can't Wait!
Actually, that would be pretty cool! And do it on wet timber aswell. And the different stamped ones from different suppliers, cos most of them are shit.
@@ScottBrownCarpentry Hi, this is the one we've been using for a while. They're branded Würth but look the same as the one on this picture i'm linking below. They seem to be more reliable staying in their sheath than the neon green ones branded Pica, which we used earlier. Switched to Würth because of this reason. I think they're called deep hole markers, but we use them as a general carpenter's pencil. The sharpener sucks though, i just use my razor knife for that - whenever i need the the tip to be really sharp.
I always keep two of those in a leg pocket on my work pants. One has the basic gray graphite type of tip, the other a red one. The graphite one, especially, can be wiped fairly easily off of surfaces (at least if used a light hand marking), which comes handy every so often.
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With a good hammer, you should be able to drive a nail with no more than *TWO* strokes . . . and one little tap at the end if the head is standing a bit proud.
2 hits!!! Lmao what are you watching bob the builder?
Six inch galv? I don't think so pal
@Scott Brown Carpentry I only wish there was good men like you and Paerau when I tried to get a trade back in the mid 1990's .It was a different world back then indeed
Hello Scott, in one of your episodes, you touched on the subject of how successful facebook ads can be to find new clients. Since then, you haven’t touched on that subject again. I would appreciate if you could shed more light on how many clients you actually (firm clients and not just one or two calls leading to nowhere) did you land from that campaign of yours. It would be nice to hear that.
Sweet video!
Thanks for the comparisons!
I've always lived by the saying "Buy once, Cry once". You should review a Martinez hammer from the M range Scott? Great vid bro.
" ... when you do finishing, everybody knows you missed (giggling) ... " classic!!!
I bought a 16 ounce Estwing when I was 18 in 1978 when I started a job as an electrician helper. The job boss always said he could tell if I was working hard because that hammer would sing a song that no other hammer on the job made since I had the only Estwing. Somewhere along the line I bought a 20 ounce Estwing but I don’t remember exactly when. The point of all this is that I’ve still got both hammers and they’re both still in A plus 1 condition. From my perspective if you don’t lose them they last perpetually forever.
I’m totally aligned with Kameron’s tool philosophy. Have everything
Hello mate! I really enjoy your videos and am a new subscriber. I'm a contractor in the states who has dreamed of living in New Zealand for the last 10 years.
Need a channel like this but with sparks
Very entertaining. I love my hammers. I never get rid of any hammer, or more frequently any hammer head, that I buy or comes my way. Each tells so much about the user and the use and the era and the economy and technology of the time of production and use. In many ways the hammer is the primal tool, and the tell of the time. A particular hammer will work for a person whose physical and psychological make up fits with that hammer. If you have a hammer that you must use, you learn how to train your body and mind to use it well and properly.
I had an estwing but I didn't really rate it over any other hammer. My Bacho is amazing. Something about the curve in the handle . It's more like a hatchet handle. 18oz just right wait. Pulls missed drywall screws out sweet which is its primary use .
I love my Stiletto Hammers, and my old Estwing
the festool table saw is lit! you should buy one as-well...
I do love a well organized van.
I spent a lot on tools and I had my 10 inch Marshall town for 7 years
I'm a carpenter in Australia and i have a ute. Yes the van would be nice and can fit more tools, but my ute is a 4x4 and doubles as my camping/beach car. That was my reasoning for getting the ute. Would be nice to be able to afford both haha
Seems like you found your crew the Three Amigos
As a tradesmen there is nothing like working with high quality tools. There are tools in my tool bag like a cheap hammer that I use for the odd use but almost all my site tools are Festool and it hurts to buy them but I know they work really well all the time. Light, strudy, well built, comfortable to use.
The only tool I have since I started twenty years ago is my ck adjustable spanner. Everything else has been lost, broken, worn-out or stolen. Power tool Wise is a Makita 9inch grinder it's about sixteen years old.
Wow. Things in NZ are way more expensive. Even accounting for the currency difference. I got a East wing framer for $30 USD
In Australia Bunning yesterday13/11/2020 Estwing hammer was 102 bucks. They've gone up heaps. They were 50 bucks in 2003
You need to try a Martinez M1 titanium hammer game changer I'm an apprentice and have just upgraded for the estwing
Kameron got the sweetest van boys, especially got the competition won before it started.
Having said that, you might want to get him some help for his tool addiction...
Really appreciate the price in difference currencies thanks
I'm using martinez M1. Best hammer I recon.
I can see the need to manufacture such cheap and low quality hammers as well. It all depends who buys the tool and what he needs it for. My neighbour has a hammer like that, he uses it a few times a year for little diy jobs around the house. He doesn't need anything fancy. But if you use something daily and make a living out of it, then yeah, best to invest.
My problem with titanium hammers- I simply can't get one. I work on big commercial projects where fancy and expensive tools, hand or power tools, often get stolen. Even cheaper stuff gets pinched. This year I had to replace: 2 pairs of tin snips, a makita charger, and 2 hand saws. Also someone needed my jigsaw to cut something without telling me when I went away to get fixings, I found it lying on the ground in a different part of the building site, damaged- the base plate was loose and few screws were missing... And it wasn't even a bad year so far...
I'm currently using a 20 oz Dewalt straight claw hammer- quality is alright, and I like the way it feels when I'm swinging, had a bad wrist injury 10 years ago, resulting in surgery and a metal screw permanently fixed into one of the bones, and I noticed that some hammers cause me discomfort, not the dewalt though.
When I was a kid I once made the mistake of buying a cheap 16oz claw hammer, only to find the claw was softer than the wire nails I was planting, so the bite was chewed to heck before I'd even pulled a half dozen nails. Buying cheap throw away tools isn't the way to go, but I was young and eager to have a toolkit and the heap of crap I ended up literally throwing away was such a waste of money and also cost me too much time on job sites trying to find work-arounds because e.g. the claw was useless on my hammer, or my DIY grade saw kept binding in the cut because it's plate wasn't taper ground. I'm not saying buy diamond studded or gold plated equipment, but always buy the best you can justify and suits your own budget. Tools you can readily replace if broken/damaged, but won't break the bank if or when that time arrives.
The real question is - can you do the carpenters trick and kick that hammer out of your hammer holder with your heel and catch it mid flight?
Would be interesting to compare the cheapest framing hammer with yours.
Reminded me of my apprentice days. Hammering in nails and my journeyman roaring at me..."for fuck sake min! Yer like a bolt o lighting....... Ye never hit the same place twice!!!!
AHH, them's the days.😄
No way would I leave tools in my van over night...in two years iv been broken in to 3 times...love London
Hi Peter
Amazing show, brilliant to see you.
Well done on your endurance!!!
When you roll up to the jobsite, the other guys have their own vans. The one is your employee and the other guy has his own carpentry business but you work on the same job?
No hammer is worth $300. When I was on the tools, I used an Estwing 24oz curved claw ( English Pattern) with nylon handle and thought that was expensive, but it never failed me and was always suitable for every joinery and construction job.
It is if you've tennis elbow
@@retardedamericans1 Well using any hammer with tennis elbow would give you problems. Same as if you have problems with frozen shoulders which is also common with joiners.
@@Elfin4 the titanium hammer has less vibration
@@retardedamericans1 Well any reduction in vibration can only be negligible when hitting something.
Elfin4 that’s my hammer of choice been swinging that round for years on the roofs. Second to none
I thought the UK was bad for rip off prices compared to the USA . But you guys are getting shafted . 300 dollars for that Vaughan Dalluge . It's £130 here in the UK .
That is about $250-260. We are only getting slightly shafted.
Got a dewalt 22oz hammer for 8.98$, didn't scan properly at the cash. Was listed for 24.99.
222.9 per litre?! Holy crap in Melbourne we were going berserk because it got to $1.60 per litre. No wonder so many kiwis are coming over here. I don't blame you!
Update Oct 2020, It's 1.67 now and Melborune is not the place to be Kiwis have already fled home.
So the cheap hammer is fine if you are not a carpenter and need a hammer for around the house?
One big happy family. Gotta love it.
I payed 1270 NZD (855USD) for my hikoki nailer, with two 5ah batteries and charger! It was 800 NZD without batteries, so that sucks
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I've never had to pay shipping on Amazon, I couldn't imagine paying more for shipping than the tool itself. That sucks.
Also I've used many random hammers, and I don't think I'll ever be spending $300 or more. I can buy $5 hammers at the hardware store, but yes you'd be better off buying a BIGGER hammer, which would cost a little more, but we're still talking more like $30.
I also really like wood handles over metal. My father used a metal one for many years building houses and I just never liked the feel of that rubber grip.
You've definitely got to spend some time with tools to understand what you like, but I'll stand by the $300 being crazy haha.
Stanley is good enough for me
I don’t mind draper either
My stanley chisels where used for 50 years by the who gave me my workshop set up and they’re still going strong 5 years on from him giving me them
Back story the guy was addicted to carving he used those chisels more than anything else in life
I'm getting into construction estimating so I'm always thinking about productivity, and whether or not the extra expense of the tool increases productivity enough during it's lifetime to justify it's cost. Another more 'human' factor is job enjoyment; better tools make the job more enjoyable. The boring conclusion I'm reaching is that mid-range tools are the way to go. But this might vary depending on the class of tool. I work on larger commercial construction sites where tools get stolen more frequently as well, so I'll buy cheap when I can get away with it because I know the more it costs the more likely it is to grow legs.
Stiletto hammers have been known to lose their nail holder magnets. Kind of a shame because previously that was never a problem. I think Milwakee? bought Stiletto.
The little hammers are perfect for electricians, roughing in timber frame houses.
Really depends on what you want to do with it. My mom's in her 70s, has a hammer in her tool drawer that gets used a time or three a year when she wants to hang a new picture. It looks a lot like that $7 hammer, and it's more than enough for hanging a few pictures here and there. Might not be good for building a house, but she's never going to build a house.
Iv owned the stiletto 14oz for years and loved it. But the handles loose, alenkeys hard to get to and rounded, Claw tips are worn, magnets missing and head doesn't sit straight. Have just purchased the martinez m4 with m1 head. Only early days but so far its way better.
do a video on how to become a carpenter and all the stuff you need, im in yr 11 and thinking about becoming a carpenter id appreciate the help mate cheers
Hi Scott. I just purchased the Hikoki framer. I’m planning on purchasing the 3ah battery. Roughly how many nails do you get per charge? Cheers
Holy Cr@p ! What's the price of fuel in NZ ? Was that over $2 a litre ?
Daz Han yup nz is not cheap lol
I think it's about $2.22 P/L now. Yes, New Zealand is pretty expensive.
I feel those NZD prices here in Canada!
I’ve got that 14oz stiletto mini and the 16oz wooden straight handled stiletto and I find myself going to that one much more than the 14oz, even for finish work. I really don’t like the rubber grip on the mini and when choking up on the hammer, the titanium neck is not comfortable at all, and it’s more than double the price!
We’ll see how long they both last...but my 10oz wood handled stiletto has been my trim hammer for almost 10 years and I’ve used it for everything and it’s still going.
I really wanted to try the Dalluge like you’ve got Scott, that looks very comfortable to use, but it wasn’t in stock when I went.
@Kyle Jones I'm in Canada as well and I just about chocked when I heard Scott say he paid $80 for his estwing. I paid less than half that for my 22oz waffle head estwing. Although that was over 10 years ago. I love my hammer, it's well worn in and I've beat it up pretty good, but it's still going strong.
Is the stiletto 14oz wood handle a good titanium hammer is cost About 131 nz dollars in the netherlands
I work in concrete if you’re a new labor I’d say buy a cheap good hammer just to have a hammer instead of asking around for one when you need it. Always best to at least have something rather than nothing.
Question for carpenters: do you still actually use Hammers for framing instead of framing nail guns nowadays? In what situation would you use it over a framing gun (don't say when you don't enough room)
Bad Dog Media yes, we use hammers to pull nails out, tack plywood on walls and roofs, knock over a nailed stud or rafter, drive nails in when they don’t go in all the way with the nail guns, pry things over with the claw; hammers are very useful when framing
@@jodythebrody2127 thank you for a very clear and explanatory answer :) genuinely interested.
I feel a rigging axe works great for driving nails. Similar to a hatchet
I know this is a year old.
If the tool are that expensive there, are tradesmen paid more or have some sort of "bonus".
That metabo nailer got me surprised, I could get one for 500CAN
The most expensive hammer i've seen was around 50 euros, and was a stanley brand hammer, with 750gr. I bought a fully forged hammer for my job (i don't use it everyday) for 12 euros. I usually just do tiles, floors, finishing stuff, but when it's needed we do formwork too, however, if yoh use it every single day, I must say, buy something long lasting, comfortable, high quallity, because if you have a shitty tool, the job won't be has good, you'll have more wasted time and it's overall a pain in the butt to trying to do something and it just not cutting it.
I use a 24oz Estwing Claw Hammer. 👌👌
Never throw away nails that have the points on the wrong end - they are for the other side of the house.
ESTWING any day been using them for more than 25 years
Tony Scerri can you describe the estwing you use, there are so many models out there
I have a Klein, Estwing stop making my weight forward hammer, it didn’t wear out it just went missing... 😱😡
The Truth haha
Estwing don't make good wood handle hammers. The wood ones they make are made in Taiwan which is why I won't touch them
Set nail and drive in one hit , thats the the long handle . Heade speed shouldn't need more than set and 2 hits for a 3 1/4 nail .
You gotta try the Martinez M1. Basically an updated stiletto. Best hammer I have tried by far
Great hammer, but it's quite a mission to buy it outside the States.
I had no issue. Ordered online and it turned up a week or 2 later
Yea just brought martinez m4 with m1 head. Just brought it straight from martinez tools. No issues.