I actually just got my favorite belt so far, for free, a couple weeks ago. I re-built a deck for a couple in their 90's and the guy gave it to me. (They also gave me lunch everyday 😁) He built the deck originally. It meant a lot as they were the nicest people and it was eerie how much they reminded me of my grandparents. I'll remember that job.
You will have clients like that throughout your career and the important thing to do is to write down some information about them and include some photos. That gives you something to look back on and remember with pride especially when you have had a bad day and a difficult client and you need to reboost your morale! Having a photo album of your work can help you to win more work or to win a job because it shows pride in your work and good clients who will sing your praises. As an employee it is still important to photograph your jobs along with keeping track of your hours in your diary as it makes it easier to estimate how long a similar job will take and its also good to look back at some of the unique things that you have been asked to make or assemble. Example, I work as a Maintenance Carpenter for a large Private School in Melbourne and one of my jobs last week was to assemble a Rugby Scrum Training Machine. It was mostly put together and strapped down to an extended shipping pallet, but it still needed someone with enough Meccano skills to put it together correctly. Looking up the website helped to visualise how everything went together and then it was just a case of using the correct tools. I did have to drill out the holes on both ends of both braces because the tolerances were out, but that was no real problem with a drill press and the right sized drill bit and countersink to clean up the burrs. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
I had this exact same setup for 25 years. Sometime back a few year, I had to get a new set of bags right away (stolen). And Occidental had a 3 month lead time. So after shopping around and asking the interwebs and facebook groups, I settled on Diamondback canvas bags. They were every bit as expensive as Occidental, but they were stocked and ready to ship. I had always resisted canvas, but I decided to pull the trigger. I wish I had these bags 10 years ago. The other thing I resisted was a hammer scabbard. I always used a metal loop like Scott's, placed on the back just like Scott's. But with this new rig I decided to try the scabbard, and it's placement directly behind my right side bags. It's leaned forward at about a 45 degree angle and the opening is right about the front top corner of my right hand bag. It took some getting used to, because I still had the habit of reaching behind, but the very instant I put it on and felt that motion of drawing and sheathing my hammer from the right side scabbard, I knew it was going to be worth the relearning. Also, side note...The same set of stolen bags, forced me to replace my Chinese made (Been using Stiletto since long before it was sold, but resisted change) Stiletto Ti-Bone, and in the interest of change, I decide to try the Martinez M1, and hot damn...I wish I changed to that the very minute Mark sold Stiletto. What a far superior hammer that is. It feels more like a rigging axe Anyways, just my $.02
If you get the Buckaroo belt, I think suspenders are worth buying too. And if you’re new, or newish, take an extra minute before you strap in to go through your bags and download all the tools and fasteners you won’t need that day. Keep the essentials, but light is right.
In the Army (Infantry) we had a saying: Pack light, freeze at night" Meaning it's better to hump less weight and pay the price for a few hours when you get to catch some Zzzs. The reverse is that you'll be humping extra weight all day for a few hours of -slightly more- comfort when sleeping.
Haven't used the buckaroo suspenders but i really like using tool vests and suspenders with a belt less bag setup. Scott's setup is basically the antithesis of what I like to use so different strokes is very true.
I’m not a tool vest hater, but they hold in a lot of extra heat. Everything is a trade off though and, as you said, different strokes for different folks.
@@jackjmaheriii yeah the heat is one of those drawbacks to it for sure. I always wore them really loosely also I have the advantage of being one of those people that sweats very little. It helps I've either worked in the deeeeeeep south where it's so humid the sweat doesn't work anyway or in new mexico where sweat works just perfectly. One neat trick you can do with the vests is you can put cold packs in them.
Ran with bags about 5 years, then began being the main cut man for the job for another 3, after I became my own boss I moved to a bucket for about 7 years and still use occasionally today, now I wear a good pair of relaxed fit carpenters pants with a hammer loop They have a place for everything I use and I don’t get stuck trying to move around on the job I’ve been my own boss for 11 years now
Thank you SCOTT! Quality tools and equipment do last and are imperative to your trade. January 1986, purchased my KLEIN electrician’s leather pouch and belt, along with KLEIN leather “bags” with attached web. These were on or recommended and pretty much mandatory on our tool list from Local Union #134, IBEW. Still have them, both worn in well. Oiled over the years, leather stretched in spots, stitching and rivets repaired numerous times, but still holding their own. Dunno if the same quality exists now, but as a retiree, I don’t plan on replacing these old “workhorses” 😉
Been watching since before the Spec house project. I switched my bags around for just the reasons you said, someone was faster than me and I wanted to be faster. The metal hammer loop in the back works best but you better make sure the belt doesn't ride too low, or you'll get tapped. When I used nylon mesh bags and destroyed three pairs of pants with nails sticking through, a buddy said, "Get you some leather brotha it will last you forever." Thank you for being an essential craftsman.
Hey youngsters just starting out in any trade: The lessons shared in this video are a distillation of many years of hard won knowledge. I design processes for a Japanese auto manufacturer in the warehouse that I work in. After 26 years in the business, I can tell you that efficiency of movement as demonstrated here is the difference between the last 10% of production. Having what you need at hand, literally inches from where your hand is at rest makes the process efficiency jump and the wear on your body is reduced substantially. Buying the bags w/ tools and learning how to use them is the main goal of course. An accomplished tradesman is 90% there in a couple years. The last 10% comes from paying attention to what your trade requires the most. Placing it in the most efficient spot (Sometimes that spot isn't closest to hand but out of the way as Scott demonstrated with the hammer) and learning the process of drawing the item, utilizing it, and stowing it with as little wasted movement as possible. The oldtimers that "make it look easy" have learned over many years to only move as much as the task requires.
I’m such a nerd I love tool belt videos oh so much. I also wear Occidental’s but I actually use the tape holder on the right and the reason is for weight distribution so when my fastener bags are loaded down my tape is helping weigh down the right side for somewhat even distribution of weight
I always used to use leather, as that was the only option, now I have switched exclusively to nylon as an electrician nylon just has the ability to segregate more. I’ve been in the trade since the late nineties and am amazed at how much things have changed, and in bags and tools it seems for the better; ergonomics have helped make things easier as I’ve gotten older. I’m split now between industrial and commercial and run a backpack for the former as it’s just easier to get around with and carry for extended distances while still running a nylon bag for commercial as it’s much easier to work out of. Get what works and if you’re starting out find out what you like before investing in the best of it; but once you know what you like invest in quality. I have a collection of old boxes and bags, some of which I hold onto as fallbacks, and most which I’ve given away to streamline and help the young to get in or have an easier time sooner.
my oh my ... I learned 33 years ago to put suspenders on the ole tool belt ! it was the best money I ever spent on my bags !!! I really makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE .... its nice to see that you installed your Hammer Loop on your belt the right way - far to many have the belt loop through the wrong way
I’m a finish carpenter. I have a set of diamond back bags that I liked for a while, but the belt was causing me too much discomfort. Switched to the snickers vest with a couple leather occidental acs. Pouches. Let’s me work light but have space to carry extra tools when I need. No pressure on my hips and weight is evenly distributed. Only downside is it’s a bit warm in the summer.
Occidental is great, but got bought by a bigger company about 5-6 years ago (U.S. Tape of Pennsburg). The new top tier rig I'm seeing more from is Akribis Leather out of Canada. The guy's a framer who does leather work, and started the company after making a rig exactly the way a carpenter would want their bags laid out. Now they've got a few different styles/features you can choose from, but everything is handmade to order and it's truly amazing. Their belt has a metal release, an idea taken from WWII parachute harnesses. Hammer loop or metal hook, and you choose low or high positioning. A thoughtful tweak for framing vs trim carpenters, who may want it hanging lower so less likely to mar the work if you bump into something. Tape pocket is perfect size, and the speed square slot can be sized to a framing or trim speed square (or both). If you get suspenders, it hangs from the belt in a comfortable place and if you get any add-ons they can hang right where the suspenders connect so the weight of that tool transfers to your shoulders instead of the belt. Pricey, yes. I bought it and have LOVED the rig more than anything I've had before. Everything - and I mean *everything* on it - is thoughtful, intentional, logical. It's obvious in the first 30 seconds after putting it on, someone would serious carpentry experience designed every tiny little feature.
Scott is absolutely amazing how much you remind me of my grandfather. From the way you explain things to the way you work. He’s been gone for 24 years now and it brings back great memories watching you.
My dad bought me a tool belt when I was ten or eleven. It was cinched down as small as it could go and still barely hung onto my frame. I’m 41 now, still have that belt and still use it regularly. I’m not a professional, just a DIY-er. Over the years, I’ve gone from hating it to grabbing it at the slightest pretense because it’s so damn useful.
I was lucky enough to live near a old school leather guy “ Bobs leather in OV “ commercial HVAC guy here , I only know custom bags , you brought your tools in and he built your bags right then. I was spoiled when it came to tool bags. Retired now and my last set is hanging on the wall 😊
Have two sets of occidental bags. A set of 5 bag framers on my harness. Another set of 7 bag framers I wear all the time. Lots of talk about stiletto ti-bones. I shyed away from that because of the titanium claws. The Martinez m1 has a replaceable steel head. Anyone who digs in kickers for huge bits of form work would understand. Really thinking lately about running a set of diamondback bags for a season. Everyone I talked to in heavy industry loves them. Did get a Kraft tool “Burke bar” and damn near got laughed off the job until guys started using it over a railroad bar or standard digging iron. Lots of good ideas and advice on this channel. Thanks for the advice most of the old heads seem to horde.
I am not a carpenter, but primarily a hobby shop woodworker in retirement. I did once build a 12X16 storage building on my property for lawn tools. I bought a single belt held hammer holder similar to yours, but mine had two spring opening gates instead of a solid circular hoop to slip in the hammer. It was not expensive from probably Lowes or somewhere. I could either put the hammer away by just snapping it into the holder or slide it in like your holder. I quickly appreciated the snap-in feature and still have it today. It's much easier and automatic for me. Your leather is still fixable if you would like. (I am just getting into leather work) A good cleaning and conditioning would make a huge difference in how supple the leather is. Also, a leather worker can replace the failed rivets with secure copper rivets. The driven or screwed-in rivets are not as permanent as the copper that is peened into place. The sweat patina is a bonus over time. Thanks.
Love all your videos. Even more so after the death of my father. He was a carpenter his whole life. He would have loved your videos, too.. thank you. I hopento be as good as a father/grandfather as you are to your family ❤💪📐🪚
I run a customized set of occy builders vest bags on a customized ranger belt. I utilize the clips on the bags to drings on the belt so that only the belt is touching me and theres no interference from the actual bag. The bags themselves are much smaller than typical bags and ride much higher on the belt. I found this method eliminated the back pain i had from always having to reach down to my bags. I can now reach the bottom of all the pockets with a straight back and the belt still rides the sweet spot instead of hiking it upto my belly. Almost all of the original tool pockets have been removed and replaced with my own custom pockets. I have my torpedo level inside at the back of my left pouch and a calculator pocket towards the front. It also doubles as a smart phone pocket. On the right front i removed the hammer loop and my tape hangs on a square ring. And under the square ring is a small d ring for my logger tape when needed. Dont be afraid to customize your pouches to how you work. Every year we take of christmas to new years and this is when i take the time to make mods i learned i needed in the last year.
Finish carpenter here, I have different belts for different jobs. Working on scaffold to working inside finishing up a punch list with bootys. I wear vest to keep from snagging on scaffold, and I wear a belt/apron for light work and lay outs. And my tape is always on my right.
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm a right handed carpenter from the UK. In the video you mention you use your left hand to hold your tape measure. I tried this after watching the video however I found if I measure this way I'm often on the wrong side of the cut. As an example let's say I have a 10ft length of 4*2 and I want to cut it to 8ft (I'll use imperial measurements for the example) if I measure from my left side I've now got 2 ft on my left and 8ft on my right. It makes it more difficult to cut as a right handed because the 8ft bit you want is not leveraged right. Also you are on the offcut side so you have to allow for your kerf. I'm not sure if I've explained that particularly well but long story short I'd love to see you demonstrate your marking and cutting process whilst measuring from the left. All the best
I have the same occidental leather bags, buckaroo belt and tool set up as you do. I learned this from watching your original belt setup video. One thing I also carry in my bags is an awl. I learned this from Larry Haun by reading his book and his videos. I've had this setup for almost 2 years. The efficiency and productivity was outstanding by this setup. If I needed a new tool belt I would get the same occidental leather and buckaroo set up. Thank you Scott! Keep up the good work!
Used my Form Setter today, Was setting claim posts in the wilds of Nevada. Used to carry a small pick and a single jack. Form Setter worked great. Thanks Scott
Started with a $40 set of Lowes AWS out of high school and went from there. Now my every day belt is completely customized to my liking. Cut up leather belt, chicago screws, and some aftermarket leather tape/pencil holders, and you can make anything you want from a few basic occidental options.
the speed square slot is something one can never go back from after upgrading from the big box stores. An absolute must have I use CLC bags on a Buckaroo belt, a similar setup to Scott here. CLC I've found is pretty much the exact same as Occidental (same layouts, same options, same materials) Only real difference I've found is the name CLC, and their bags have carrying handles on them. They're also a bit cheaper than Occidental I love the Buckaroo belt, however one drawback is that there is very little wiggle room in the belt's size. I had to get a new one after losing some weight, and I read a comment from a guy who had trouble getting it on over winter clothes when he bought it in the summer
Pretty sure CLC got bought by DeWalt. 🙄 I have a 30" waist and the belt doesn't go quite small enough for me either. I think Dead On has a belt that enables you to adjust the total length of it. Good rigs, but don't last very long.
Been running the leather Occidental setup for about 5 years now. I clean and condition mine about twice a year. They still look great and are holding up well. I wear it nearly every day and we are rough on our equipment. Great product and worth the investment if you are wanting a good quality setup
Great video. Much appreciated sir. I'm 33yr in and I agree. Glued corners. Zip tap now for an emergency mend. Nylon rig now. The setup is never what you want. I use different rigs for different work. Can't throw away a difficult rig I just use it in a different application.
Great video, Scott! I picked up a nice set of Diamondback bags a couple years ago and they have been a total game changer. I bought the “GRRANDE”. It has a nice wide sturdy belt sort of like a weight lifting belt which supports the bags really well. I like to wear mine up higher at the waist/above the hips and it feels really solid and comfortable. They also have a “hammer holster” which I think is the best way to have a hammer on bags. It sits at an angle underneath the right side bags with the hammer head up towards the belt. It’s easy to find, quick to pull out, doesn’t slap your legs, wont break your back if you fall, and doesn’t rattle or make noise. I also bought a flat bar holster for the other side that is the same deal. I’ve always liked having a flat bar within arms reach and that’s the first time I’ve been able to have it in the tool bags. These things are super tough and extremely lightweight. They’re tough nylon. They also have a cobra belt clip which I like because you can set the belt to the exact size you want and then it locks the length in. You just simply click the buckle on. You don’t have to worry about stretching out belt buckle holes or if your perfect fit is between belt holes. They’re not cheap but if you are someone who wears bags often, I highly recommend them.
What a quality video sir. Every time I listen to your videos it feels like I’m with my grandpa when he’s in the shop woodworking and teaching me all these things he’s learned. Really appreciate it, I’ve been interested in blacksmith if recently and watched almost all your old videos about it, do you think you could revisit that topic? Thanks again
I'm a homeowner who's rebuilding a cedar balcony deck that I built 30 years ago. (I'm not quite the same guy who built it.) It felt good to put on my carpenter's toolbelt, but only after I readjusted the length to the buckle;) That said, I like to use a belt and suspenders, and I'm going to ask the Lady Wife to outfit some new jeans with bachelor buttons.
My advice is carrying an auxiliary toolbox in your truck or on the site. If I'm not using a speed square that day, I'm not carrying it. Same with the chisel, the utility knife, punch and any other thing I won't absolutely be using for that day. As they say in the Army, grams become ounces, and ounces become pounds. When you are carrying stuff around your waist all day and suffer from sciatica, you need to carry as little as possible.
@@nervousbreakdown1108 Unfortunately, the world has become somewhat less trustworthy and frankly my tools are expensive because I buy the nicest sort. I like to be able to lock my stuff up. Hate to have to do that, but it's a cost/risk ratio.
@@adamschaeffer4057 Tool theft has always been an unfortunate fact of life, but with lots of the lowest-paid people not being able to earn enough to live on anymore, it's like you said, there's been a notable drive towards "less legitimate" means of making money. I'm not saying it's their fault that they find themselves too poor to make ends meet, however theft is still the wrong choice regardless. I find myself relying on the old fashioned "good fences make good neighbors" adage now more than ever, and a good lock on a toolbox is at least in concept just another form of fence between your stuff and your neighbor's hands.
I run the diamondback grande setup with the hammer and cat’s paw sleeves. I’ve got a strip nail pouch in the back. My bags are setup the same way as far as layout. Limited waste of motion and muscle memory = more work done. Been watching your vids since day 1✊🏼
I’m a middle aged, self employed renovation/finish carpenter, been happily making sawdust for about 30 years. I do many tasks by myself and have been working mostly by myself for about 20 years. All that being said I’ve found that caring a bit more tools keeps me more efficient. Being able to change my set up allows me to lighten up my setup for simple tasks. I’ve run many different brands of belts and I’m beyond happy with my atlas tool vest set up. I can move things around easily and when I have to load up the vest distributes the weight better than suspenders I have found.
I have used Occidental Leather bag for the same length of time you have, I did oil them! My setup is similar to yours, but I use a hammer loop where you do and have a third bag there. I sometimes keep my hammer upside down in it or carry extra nails when sheeting a roof. When I was doing more finished carpentry, I put three nail sets in the left hand bag a a pair of dikes in the pocket behind the nail set pouches. A coping saw also fits in the rear bag or the side bag on the right
I bought a Buckaroo belt at Scott's suggestion and love it. I have an Irwin hammer loop (like Scott) and use ToughBuilt bags. I really like that they clip on and off. It makes it easy and versatile to shed a couple of pounds when I don't need something and easier to put the belt on, then clipping the bags in place after.
Saw your original tool belt video years ago when I was getting into the trades. The square, pencil, tape placement has stuck with me and I can’t fathom any other way to work.
I got my first bag setup from my grandfather, I only used it for a few weeks before I decided I would destroy it and got my own based on his setup. I adapted it several times to meet my needs as low voltage in resedential or commercial back to framing over to roofing and so on. I don't do construction anymore but I still keep a rear hammer loop on all my configurations, it was always the most convenient and comfortable. I ended up with a baby 12oz estwing but it was the best tool for what I was doing by the time I got out of that trade.
My tool bags are some fairly cheap leather ones that I found here in Tokyo that I've customized to suit my needs. I'd love to have a set of Occidental bags but with the tariff on leather products and the yen-to-dollar rate right now, it's not happening 😅 The one thing that I do differently than you Scott is the hammer placement. I had the butt hanger hammer loop for years then I saw a video with Kyle from RR Buildings and he has a hammer sleeve or Hammer Holster, it's a like a scabbard for a sword, it rides between your right bag and your right jeans front pocket. I love it, the hammer is tucked in nice and tight and it is right there, it's not banging around your backside all the time, total convert, you could not get me to go back to a hammer loop on the belt for love or money LOL. Cheers from Tokyo Japan! Stu
Great video Scott. There is another You Tube channel called Perkins builder Brothers, they have designed and sell their own line of tool bags. While they are a little expensive they are very cool. They thought of everything. And on Suspenders, I started wearing suspenders a few months ago due to lower back pain. What a game changer it has been. I didn't realize that my belt was cutting into my waist and pinching my sciatic nerve. Suspenders fixed that.
I’m a big Occidental fan, and have a collection of bags and pouches that rotate onto my belt from time to time, according to needs. Occidental is the best. I keep my chisel on the left, for the same reason as the tape-pencil situation. Chisel comes out with the left hand, hammer comes out with the right, hammer hits butt end of chisel.
I'm left handed, forget anything you can buy locally.I had custom bags from the original Diamondback belts made sometime in the mid 90's.I don't use them daily anymore but just used them to do some gutter guard at home yesterday.The wide belt is a must and I'm proud they still fit no adjustment needed!
Got my first occidental oxylights in 2000 after 4 years in the trade. It was a game changer. Tried leather after those but returned to the leather nylon oxylights with a couple mods. Removed the top pouch on the fastener bag (left side) and moved the tape holder to that position. Carried my tape on the right side in my old oxys, moved it to the left side and like it much better over there, took a few months to relearn after all the years, but much more natural on the left side for me being a right handed carpenter. I also use a gatorback belt, keeps the bags more secure like the buckaroo, plenty of padding. The leather ranger belt lasts a long time but my older hips need the padding
Love your channel sir but nylon for me - all day every day. I started out on day one being given a 2 pocket canvas apron, a used Vaughan and told to "fill up" and get to work. I believe the first paycheck I got a single 10 pocket CLC and a separate hammer holder. It was great for forms, framing, roofing and prepping for stucco. I eventually got bags on both sides but it got heavy real quick. That's when I started to notice that most of the old timers only had one bag and a hammer holder so I switched back to that and glad for it. In my experience, nylon is lighter, wears slower and requires no maintenance. I started out in rough carpentry, did a little finish carpentry, then started branching out into metal and wood fabrication and never looked back.
I love your videos. I'm a lifelong carpenter and will only use leather. I too, have occidental bags, but recently switched to a brand called akribis leather. I highly recommend them. In my opinion they are better than occidental.
After watching this, I want to get some different bags before I build my next cattle shed next summer. I don't do this professionally, I'm just a farmer so I don't need perfect. I really wish I could find something that holds a drill well as I use that far more than a hammer as I like screws better for this kind of work.
Diamondback tool belts, with suspenders or a vest. You can purchase modules and make your own setup/kit OR you can purchase the kit they have set up for different trades. Warranty works. Veteran owned. Exceptionally crafted belts that take a royal beating in the temps here in Colorado. I have copied EC’s setup suggestions, as articulated here in this video, and it saves me hours and hours over the work I’ve done. Keeps me in the flow, and my muscle memory is on point with executing measurements - to cut - to installation on the job. Keep up the good work! (I have zero financial interest in Diamondback.).
I started out as a kid working with my dad and we always used leather craftsman bags. When I got out of school I bought a set of Occidental’s and wore them out in a bought 14 years. Wore a buckaroo belt with them for the last 4 years of there life. Now I have been wearing akribis for the last 4 years and love them. I frame and door concrete forming residential. Never have been able to convince my self in buying nylon.
I bought the leather seven bag framers from Occidental. After about six months, I decided that for a weekend warrior like me the saved weight of the nylon ones would be a better choice and would still last me my lifetime. IGot the similar set up in the oxy lights and love them. I put the diamond back hammer sleeve on them to carry the hammer, conveniently with no leg slap.
I've worked as a professional framer, finisher, deck builder and everything in between and have tried pretty much every belt setup imaginable (oh lord the $ I've spent). I stumbled on one I've had zero desire to change since trying it out 3 years ago, inspired by some Japanese carpenters I saw on instagram. I use a 2" police utility belt (no suspenders) with my hammer, pencil and knife in a holder on the right, with my tape in a small pouch behind it. On the back I have a utility clip (great for holding guns) and a phone holder. On the left I have a smaller bag with slots for a speed square, finishing and framing nails, loose fasteners, drill bits, cats paw, a nail set, and a slot I usually use to hold a chalk line but is multi-use. I got a magnet clip on amazon that fits nicely on the back that is great for all sorts of loose fasteners and bits. Having one primary bag makes it much easier to fit through doors, I don't have to do the sideways shimmy, and can worry less about scratching a finished surface with my bags on. The weight distribution ends up pretty equal with the hammer and tape on the right, and not having a leather bag keeps the overall weight down. With this setup I never really feel in want of anything, and feel very mobile compared to a bigger setup. I use Akrabis leather for the tool compartments, which are very nicely tailored to suit your needs.
I framed (metal stud) and hung drywall for 12 years, leather electricians pouch on the right for hand tools, pencils, knives etc... I used both nylon and leather over the years as a screw pouch on the left side, hammer loop in back and I always used a big 2 or 3 pocket pouch in the back for chalk lines, tape measure and other things
6:20 when Scott started swinging that hammer , I knew immediately where he was going with it . I to suffered from hammer handle leg bruising for years . I bought my Occidentals with the hammer loop and have had that set up for 25 years . Still using the same Occidental bags as well .
One of the things I love most about my Diamondback is that I have a spot for the chisel and nail punch on my left, which is the hand I hold it in. Just like what you said about the tape and pencil I believe every tool should be on the side of the hand that you use it in
Thanks for a fine presentation. For me it would be the (forestry) Cruisers Vest. I have some problems and ideas about that. Now it's been a few years and there have likely been some improvements I don't know about. My vest is a tan colored Filson. Any special ideas out there?
I’m a finish carpenter and I’ve really liked the holstery modular system. I prefer an apron in the shop but I’ve yet to invest in a really well laid out apron
40 years ago I went to work on a framing crew, my first set of bags were just a pain to use, nothing seemed to be in the right position, I was always searching for the right spot. my boss had a set of the Occidental bags, I knew I had to have a set, with his help I bought a set and never looked back. I used that set up for years. I set my bags almost exactly like yours, the only thing is that I had a few more tools, that were valuable to me, a catspaw, the slim one not the chunky Stanley ones, and side cutters, you would be amazed often I used them on the job, and an awl, it was really handy while using a chalk line or a dry line. by the way, I am not had to use my nail bags in a few years but I still have them and they are still in great shape. adding a padded belt would certainly be a good idea.
I love my occidental tool belt. I did change the belt a couple years ago to a diamond back one. Its really nice. I also had a local leather guy make me a hammer sleeve like some of the newer belts have. Thats a game changer for me I love it. I did see occidental makes a hammer sleeve you can add to your belt now.
I’ve been a carpenter for over 20 years now. I wear the occidental adjust-a-fit framer bags for general carpentry for the last 15 years. I’ve been a finish carpentry specialist for the last decade, so I have a tool vest I wear for doing interior work. It keeps everything really close to the body and protected.
Bought alot of bags sold a few sets .. in the end In a badger belt with occidental framer nylon bags without the leather tape measure grtting in the way at the top of the one bag occidental suspenders .. the badger belt is a piece of foam with material to prevent slip ... i prefer it over the badger in weight .. i have a badger ready for a new home
Buy once, cry once. Starting with Tool belt and boots is sound advice. As the years went by I also learned to lighten whenever it was feasible. Probably the biggest weight reduction I incorporated was switching to a titanium framing hammer. Not only was I carrying less weight on my hips, my elbow and wrist thanked me. As a young (and obviously more knowledgeable 😂) carpenter I scoffed at saving 6 ounces in my rig. As an older man I wish I could go back and smack myself for not making that transition sooner.
Buckaroo for the last 5 years, cheap 3rd hand irwin one before that. Yeah it's a little heavy and bulky compated to some, but it is the most comfortable, especially when loaded up with a nail gun, or a couple of drills. And I definitely have a think about what I need for the day- anything that's in there that doesn't need to be come out, and anything that needs to go in gets added. Something you said Scott, in a previous nail bag video was you don't carry a cats paw - I always had one, because I was a fairly fresh apprentice and thats what everyone did. Your rationale being if you need to carry a cats paw you are making too many mistakes - this has definitely stuck with me and made me a much better tradesman! (Along with the myriad of other great advice you dish out)
Told my son the same thing as he became an ironworker. I bought him is first cheap set, but didnt cut corners on the important stuff. Then I told him pay attention to what the guys around you are using. Now he has 3 sets of gear with fall protection, all setup different for the different stuff they do whether its setting steel beams, working on the ground tying bar or doing floors, and just a generalized catch all set.
Bought huskies for my first commercial concrete job. They fell off the belt within the first month. Biught some replacement nylon bags that didnt last much longer, but got me to where i could afford an occidental set up after i made some money. I hung my bags on a harness because I was climbing walls all day. Most form carpenters in my area add a hammer loop and klein bolt bag on the ass of the belt for added capacity. With lanyards and positioning hooks, tools and fasteners, you would be running around with 40-50lbs all day. When I was transitioned to doing tilt ups, i bought a second bag set up. Got the wool lined hip pads and all leather suspenders to hang my bags on. Very comfortable, very durable. They make it in one peice, but i bought it all separate to keep things modular/replaceble/adjustable. Set things in place with chicago screws. I will warn that the Occidentals with 3 decending pouces get hung up on form scaffold constantly, and the small bag dumps pretty easily. But having the extra bag for the plethora of fasenters used for tilts was very welcome. Kust gotta hang onto the bag if you are moving across the job quick.
I did a rivet job to my bags, juste one to joint the right small bag to the big one, the rivet is in the bottom from side and my hammer goes between the two bags ! Best thing I ever did for my rig
I have the same bags and i love them but i think the right side tool pouch leaves something to be desired. The leather hammer loop is kind of pointless and the tape holder gets in the way and sometimes can be painful on my hip. I usually just drop the tape into the bottom of that bag instead of using the tape holder. It would be cool if occidental came out with an updated framer's tool pouch that addressed some of the issues with the current one. Im considering switching it out to the trimmer's tool pouch or maybe the 4in1 tape holder.
Akribis leather makes a hammer loop that i recently purchased. Called HD4. All leather but its a hammer sleeve that puts it on a angle and keeps it away from your leg. Ive got mine just infront of my right hand pouch, quick to slide in, off the leg and importantly off the back side.
I've been through a dozens rigs or so. Nowadays, I wear suspenders on my pants and Badger bags (made by occidental), hung on an exofit harness with a klien bolt bag in the back and a wire reel between the bolt bag and fastener pouch. It's a super comfortable setup, and I haven't found any limitations in using it.
As a carpenter isn't carrying around a wire reel a bit excessive? Those things aren't light and if you're tying rebar you could just get a second cheap belt to throw it on instead of having to wear your full bags and the wire reel at once.
I ran the all leather Occidental bags created and manufactured in my home town, in my early days as a carpenter and an electrician, when the oxy lights came out I switched, built my bags from buying individual pieces, in all black color, first the super thick padded belt, 3 o’clock nylon oxy frammer with two small pouches on the outside, hammer loop at the 4 o’clock like Scott, at the 5 and 6 o’clock position I have a big nylon pouch for wire nuts, 6 and 7 o’clock another big nylon pouch for misc parts or whatever I need, 8 o’clock screw gun holster, 9 o’clock oxy light frammer with speed square slot and 2 small outside pouches at the beginning of each job I turn my. Bags upside down and shake everything out into a cardboard box tools, parts, trash, etc...then I strategically grab only the tools I need for the particular trade I am engaged in, load up my bags and get to work only with the bare minimum of tools needed, doing electrical or building, doing the bag dump out procedure as daily keeps the bags clean and light...
Long time ago my uncle was a carpenter. He wore a cloth 84 lumber nail holder tied in the back and his hammer went in the cloth tie on his side of course nails in the bag, whatever other tools, knife, chisel, pencil etc went in his pants pockets or he tied another 84 lumber cloth bag on his side. Never remember him having a fancy bag. This was in the seventies. Good memories.
Try Maka Leather Goods. Handmade leather in Tasmania, Australia. I run the thick belt they make with their standard carpenter setup. Maka can custom make a nail bag as well.
I think it’s an important balance as a tradesman on what to buy the best and expensive for what works with you. When I was young I was always told not to buy cheap tools. And I always go by that saying. I have then noticed what I should buy cheap (and good) and also not cheap (and good). Depends on the tools and the trade is what u noticed. Going to high school as a carpenter and putting myself through for some years after then becoming a union electrician for now almost 15 years. The type of tools you use and the belts you use is all personal preference. It takes time and is always going to get tweaked. I was with occidental for 10-12 years switching from carpentry to electrical during the process and now going towards some dimond back products. I love them much more. I do not know if they are going to last as long but they are awesome and won’t be mad if I need to buy again in 6-8 years from now. Who knows things may change. Just like our trades we need to adapt and be new dogs that have the knowledge of old ones.
I'm 35, started in carpentry 4 years ago ish. Did mechanics and welding before that. Bought a tool belt which I don't like, and am thinking about perkins builder belt. I'm fascinated with belts where you slide the hammer in a pocket
I’m working on the tape measure recommendation. I’m right handed and keep holding with my right hand, but then have to grab with my left so I can mark with my pencil with my right. I have no idea how I started this, but I will start using your recommendation. I’m old and just experiencing the use of my first belt.
For framing/carpentry, I can vouch for getting a Diamondback belt. Seriously changed my comfort and efficiency while staying flexible across jobs (my setup listed below). Mule Pouch (R) Hammer holster (R). Wrangell Pouch (L), Nail Puller Holster (L) Add-ons: Magnetic Top Flap (R) (Pocket used for holding T-25 screws) Sax Pouch (Clips on wherever needed for uncommon fastener storage) Do your research, think through your daily motions and change it how you see fit. Make sure you pay attention to how they size their belts. DB also experiments with a lot of belt/pouch accessories that might benefit someone with a range of responsibilities across jobs.
I still have two belts, nowhere like the kind of thing you guys carry, they're clumsy and get in the way. When I started the only people who carried a belt were plasterboarders, a two pocket belt sometimes a seperate hammer loop. I was given the hammer that nobody wanted and told to fill my coat pocket with nails (somebody told me later to put em all heads up !) and there I went building farm buildings, nailing precut 4"x2" to 6"x2" triangle pattern, two straight one skew, hundreds of 'em. All the timber was sawn, true size and heavy with chemicals. All major joints bolted. Nobody owned their own tools, you just used what was in the van, no wet gear and a caravan to "live in". Happy days !
My start was very similar - one of the 2 pocket canvas bags that they got for free from the lumber yard (with the lumber yard logo on it), a used Vaughan, and told to "fill up" and get to work!
Im 71, my friend needed help to build a platform for a shed. When digging out my tool belt which i hadn't used in 12yrs since i roofed my house, i didn't realize how heavy it was. Oh for a younger man's day.
I will be 70 next year. Been in the field since 1975. Still working but not in "production" so instead of my cheap leather bags, (the last one was nylon) I think the last time i wore them was about 12 years ago. I switched to a multi pocket nail apron and a leather hammer holster. I travel light because of heat, weight and fatigue. I put the holster on my leather belt on my pants behind a belt loop so it doesn't slide forward. and loop the apron string through those belt loops and back across the front so it ties in front of me. Back in the very early eighties when i was on a construction home improvement crew we all wore leather bags, Except for this older carpenter who wore just a two sack cloth apron. He was 10-15 years our senior. Now i know why that is what he wore.
I'm a former theatre person. I'm the same way about setting up my tool belt a certain way. Everything had it's place and I knew everything was simply by muscle memory and/or by feel
I wore an oxidental set of bags with no belt that hung from my shoulders on harness, 10:13 for about 10 years. That worked for my back and body better than any belted bags. After working in 3 different states I never saw another carpenter wearing that set of bags. My set up was very similar.
I've gone to both wide belt and suspenders to take the pressure off my hips and bladder. Over the years some changes as to what I carry. Years ago we did much more hand nailing than we do now so I'm carrying less loose nails in the pouch but everything else is the same.
Still wearing a cloth tied belt for fasteners, and a leather holster for the hammer.but the apprenticeship was for log-cabin building. I do like suspenders on chain saw pants though.
Just wanted to brag a little about Occidental Leather. I have had my back pocket pouch by them for 27 years in the electrical industry. Great investment.!
Scott I’m 15 years old starting
To get into the trades, working with my dad in framing since I was 13, so Scott I thank you for your
tips and content.
Good stuff wish there was more youth do it. Am a joiner from scotland do everything it's a good trade cause everyone needs you.
I actually just got my favorite belt so far, for free, a couple weeks ago. I re-built a deck for a couple in their 90's and the guy gave it to me. (They also gave me lunch everyday 😁) He built the deck originally. It meant a lot as they were the nicest people and it was eerie how much they reminded me of my grandparents. I'll remember that job.
You will have clients like that throughout your career and the important thing to do is to write down some information about them and include some photos. That gives you something to look back on and remember with pride especially when you have had a bad day and a difficult client and you need to reboost your morale!
Having a photo album of your work can help you to win more work or to win a job because it shows pride in your work and good clients who will sing your praises.
As an employee it is still important to photograph your jobs along with keeping track of your hours in your diary as it makes it easier to estimate how long a similar job will take and its also good to look back at some of the unique things that you have been asked to make or assemble. Example, I work as a Maintenance Carpenter for a large Private School in Melbourne and one of my jobs last week was to assemble a Rugby Scrum Training Machine. It was mostly put together and strapped down to an extended shipping pallet, but it still needed someone with enough Meccano skills to put it together correctly. Looking up the website helped to visualise how everything went together and then it was just a case of using the correct tools. I did have to drill out the holes on both ends of both braces because the tolerances were out, but that was no real problem with a drill press and the right sized drill bit and countersink to clean up the burrs.
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
I had this exact same setup for 25 years. Sometime back a few year, I had to get a new set of bags right away (stolen). And Occidental had a 3 month lead time. So after shopping around and asking the interwebs and facebook groups, I settled on Diamondback canvas bags. They were every bit as expensive as Occidental, but they were stocked and ready to ship. I had always resisted canvas, but I decided to pull the trigger. I wish I had these bags 10 years ago. The other thing I resisted was a hammer scabbard. I always used a metal loop like Scott's, placed on the back just like Scott's. But with this new rig I decided to try the scabbard, and it's placement directly behind my right side bags. It's leaned forward at about a 45 degree angle and the opening is right about the front top corner of my right hand bag. It took some getting used to, because I still had the habit of reaching behind, but the very instant I put it on and felt that motion of drawing and sheathing my hammer from the right side scabbard, I knew it was going to be worth the relearning.
Also, side note...The same set of stolen bags, forced me to replace my Chinese made (Been using Stiletto since long before it was sold, but resisted change) Stiletto Ti-Bone, and in the interest of change, I decide to try the Martinez M1, and hot damn...I wish I changed to that the very minute Mark sold Stiletto. What a far superior hammer that is. It feels more like a rigging axe
Anyways, just my $.02
If you get the Buckaroo belt, I think suspenders are worth buying too. And if you’re new, or newish, take an extra minute before you strap in to go through your bags and download all the tools and fasteners you won’t need that day. Keep the essentials, but light is right.
In the Army (Infantry) we had a saying: Pack light, freeze at night" Meaning it's better to hump less weight and pay the price for a few hours when you get to catch some Zzzs. The reverse is that you'll be humping extra weight all day for a few hours of -slightly more- comfort when sleeping.
Suspenders worth it with buckaroo set up
Haven't used the buckaroo suspenders but i really like using tool vests and suspenders with a belt less bag setup. Scott's setup is basically the antithesis of what I like to use so different strokes is very true.
I’m not a tool vest hater, but they hold in a lot of extra heat. Everything is a trade off though and, as you said, different strokes for different folks.
@@jackjmaheriii yeah the heat is one of those drawbacks to it for sure. I always wore them really loosely also I have the advantage of being one of those people that sweats very little. It helps I've either worked in the deeeeeeep south where it's so humid the sweat doesn't work anyway or in new mexico where sweat works just perfectly.
One neat trick you can do with the vests is you can put cold packs in them.
That suspender slap was everything. Love ya Scotty!
Ran with bags about 5 years, then began being the main cut man for the job for another 3, after I became my own boss I moved to a bucket for about 7 years and still use occasionally today, now I wear a good pair of relaxed fit carpenters pants with a hammer loop
They have a place for everything I use and I don’t get stuck trying to move around on the job
I’ve been my own boss for 11 years now
Thank you SCOTT! Quality tools and equipment do last and are imperative to your trade. January 1986, purchased my KLEIN electrician’s leather pouch and belt, along with KLEIN leather “bags” with attached web. These were on or recommended and pretty much mandatory on our tool list from Local Union #134, IBEW. Still have them, both worn in well. Oiled over the years, leather stretched in spots, stitching and rivets repaired numerous times, but still holding their own. Dunno if the same quality exists now, but as a retiree, I don’t plan on replacing these old “workhorses” 😉
Good to see you E.C., you've taught me a lot about the trade and how to conduct myself . Thank you
Been watching since before the Spec house project. I switched my bags around for just the reasons you said, someone was faster than me and I wanted to be faster. The metal hammer loop in the back works best but you better make sure the belt doesn't ride too low, or you'll get tapped.
When I used nylon mesh bags and destroyed three pairs of pants with nails sticking through, a buddy said, "Get you some leather brotha it will last you forever."
Thank you for being an essential craftsman.
Hey youngsters just starting out in any trade: The lessons shared in this video are a distillation of many years of hard won knowledge. I design processes for a Japanese auto manufacturer in the warehouse that I work in. After 26 years in the business, I can tell you that efficiency of movement as demonstrated here is the difference between the last 10% of production. Having what you need at hand, literally inches from where your hand is at rest makes the process efficiency jump and the wear on your body is reduced substantially. Buying the bags w/ tools and learning how to use them is the main goal of course. An accomplished tradesman is 90% there in a couple years. The last 10% comes from paying attention to what your trade requires the most. Placing it in the most efficient spot (Sometimes that spot isn't closest to hand but out of the way as Scott demonstrated with the hammer) and learning the process of drawing the item, utilizing it, and stowing it with as little wasted movement as possible. The oldtimers that "make it look easy" have learned over many years to only move as much as the task requires.
I’m such a nerd I love tool belt videos oh so much. I also wear Occidental’s but I actually use the tape holder on the right and the reason is for weight distribution so when my fastener bags are loaded down my tape is helping weigh down the right side for somewhat even distribution of weight
I am not a carpenter, or tradesman, but a DIYer, and found your tips useful
I always used to use leather, as that was the only option, now I have switched exclusively to nylon as an electrician nylon just has the ability to segregate more. I’ve been in the trade since the late nineties and am amazed at how much things have changed, and in bags and tools it seems for the better; ergonomics have helped make things easier as I’ve gotten older. I’m split now between industrial and commercial and run a backpack for the former as it’s just easier to get around with and carry for extended distances while still running a nylon bag for commercial as it’s much easier to work out of.
Get what works and if you’re starting out find out what you like before investing in the best of it; but once you know what you like invest in quality. I have a collection of old boxes and bags, some of which I hold onto as fallbacks, and most which I’ve given away to streamline and help the young to get in or have an easier time sooner.
my oh my ... I learned 33 years ago to put suspenders on the ole tool belt ! it was the best money I ever spent on my bags !!! I really makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE .... its nice to see that you installed your Hammer Loop on your belt the right way - far to many have the belt loop through the wrong way
I’m a finish carpenter. I have a set of diamond back bags that I liked for a while, but the belt was causing me too much discomfort. Switched to the snickers vest with a couple leather occidental acs. Pouches. Let’s me work light but have space to carry extra tools when I need. No pressure on my hips and weight is evenly distributed. Only downside is it’s a bit warm in the summer.
Occidental is great, but got bought by a bigger company about 5-6 years ago (U.S. Tape of Pennsburg). The new top tier rig I'm seeing more from is Akribis Leather out of Canada. The guy's a framer who does leather work, and started the company after making a rig exactly the way a carpenter would want their bags laid out. Now they've got a few different styles/features you can choose from, but everything is handmade to order and it's truly amazing.
Their belt has a metal release, an idea taken from WWII parachute harnesses. Hammer loop or metal hook, and you choose low or high positioning. A thoughtful tweak for framing vs trim carpenters, who may want it hanging lower so less likely to mar the work if you bump into something. Tape pocket is perfect size, and the speed square slot can be sized to a framing or trim speed square (or both). If you get suspenders, it hangs from the belt in a comfortable place and if you get any add-ons they can hang right where the suspenders connect so the weight of that tool transfers to your shoulders instead of the belt. Pricey, yes. I bought it and have LOVED the rig more than anything I've had before. Everything - and I mean *everything* on it - is thoughtful, intentional, logical. It's obvious in the first 30 seconds after putting it on, someone would serious carpentry experience designed every tiny little feature.
Scott is absolutely amazing how much you remind me of my grandfather. From the way you explain things to the way you work. He’s been gone for 24 years now and it brings back great memories watching you.
My dad bought me a tool belt when I was ten or eleven. It was cinched down as small as it could go and still barely hung onto my frame.
I’m 41 now, still have that belt and still use it regularly. I’m not a professional, just a DIY-er. Over the years, I’ve gone from hating it to grabbing it at the slightest pretense because it’s so damn useful.
I'm 55 and my belt is cinched down to the last hole and still falls down. 😅
I was lucky enough to live near a old school leather guy “ Bobs leather in OV “ commercial HVAC guy here , I only know custom bags , you brought your tools in and he built your bags right then. I was spoiled when it came to tool bags. Retired now and my last set is hanging on the wall 😊
I spent years with cheap bags. I purchased a set of occidental leathers 4 years ago, one of the best purchases I have made as a builder.
Have two sets of occidental bags. A set of 5 bag framers on my harness. Another set of 7 bag framers I wear all the time. Lots of talk about stiletto ti-bones. I shyed away from that because of the titanium claws. The Martinez m1 has a replaceable steel head. Anyone who digs in kickers for huge bits of form work would understand. Really thinking lately about running a set of diamondback bags for a season. Everyone I talked to in heavy industry loves them. Did get a Kraft tool “Burke bar” and damn near got laughed off the job until guys started using it over a railroad bar or standard digging iron. Lots of good ideas and advice on this channel. Thanks for the advice most of the old heads seem to horde.
This is my favorite UA-cam channel.
Leather for me suspenders 39 years metal stud framing drywall drywall finish all types carpentry doors and hardwear
Keep up the good work
I am not a carpenter, but primarily a hobby shop woodworker in retirement. I did once build a 12X16 storage building on my property for lawn tools. I bought a single belt held hammer holder similar to yours, but mine had two spring opening gates instead of a solid circular hoop to slip in the hammer. It was not expensive from probably Lowes or somewhere. I could either put the hammer away by just snapping it into the holder or slide it in like your holder. I quickly appreciated the snap-in feature and still have it today. It's much easier and automatic for me.
Your leather is still fixable if you would like. (I am just getting into leather work) A good cleaning and conditioning would make a huge difference in how supple the leather is. Also, a leather worker
can replace the failed rivets with secure copper rivets. The driven or screwed-in rivets are not as permanent as the copper that is peened into place. The sweat patina is a bonus over time. Thanks.
Love all your videos. Even more so after the death of my father. He was a carpenter his whole life. He would have loved your videos, too.. thank you. I hopento be as good as a father/grandfather as you are to your family ❤💪📐🪚
I run a customized set of occy builders vest bags on a customized ranger belt. I utilize the clips on the bags to drings on the belt so that only the belt is touching me and theres no interference from the actual bag. The bags themselves are much smaller than typical bags and ride much higher on the belt. I found this method eliminated the back pain i had from always having to reach down to my bags. I can now reach the bottom of all the pockets with a straight back and the belt still rides the sweet spot instead of hiking it upto my belly. Almost all of the original tool pockets have been removed and replaced with my own custom pockets. I have my torpedo level inside at the back of my left pouch and a calculator pocket towards the front. It also doubles as a smart phone pocket. On the right front i removed the hammer loop and my tape hangs on a square ring. And under the square ring is a small d ring for my logger tape when needed. Dont be afraid to customize your pouches to how you work. Every year we take of christmas to new years and this is when i take the time to make mods i learned i needed in the last year.
Finish carpenter here, I have different belts for different jobs. Working on scaffold to working inside finishing up a punch list with bootys. I wear vest to keep from snagging on scaffold, and I wear a belt/apron for light work and lay outs. And my tape is always on my right.
Never been one to comment but as a 35 yr exp framer general carpenter I appreciate your channel so much
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm a right handed carpenter from the UK. In the video you mention you use your left hand to hold your tape measure. I tried this after watching the video however I found if I measure this way I'm often on the wrong side of the cut. As an example let's say I have a 10ft length of 4*2 and I want to cut it to 8ft (I'll use imperial measurements for the example) if I measure from my left side I've now got 2 ft on my left and 8ft on my right. It makes it more difficult to cut as a right handed because the 8ft bit you want is not leveraged right. Also you are on the offcut side so you have to allow for your kerf. I'm not sure if I've explained that particularly well but long story short I'd love to see you demonstrate your marking and cutting process whilst measuring from the left. All the best
I have the same occidental leather bags, buckaroo belt and tool set up as you do. I learned this from watching your original belt setup video. One thing I also carry in my bags is an awl. I learned this from Larry Haun by reading his book and his videos. I've had this setup for almost 2 years. The efficiency and productivity was outstanding by this setup. If I needed a new tool belt I would get the same occidental leather and buckaroo set up. Thank you Scott! Keep up the good work!
Could you Cliff notes version the purpose of the awl? Also I keep hearing about this guy in his book. I think I want to buy it soon
The very efficient carpenter is his book.
The awl is great for snapping chalk lines and hooking the end of the tape for lay out when working alone
Used my Form Setter today, Was setting claim posts in the wilds of Nevada. Used to carry a small pick and a single jack.
Form Setter worked great.
Thanks
Scott
Started with a $40 set of Lowes AWS out of high school and went from there. Now my every day belt is completely customized to my liking. Cut up leather belt, chicago screws, and some aftermarket leather tape/pencil holders, and you can make anything you want from a few basic occidental options.
the speed square slot is something one can never go back from after upgrading from the big box stores. An absolute must have
I use CLC bags on a Buckaroo belt, a similar setup to Scott here. CLC I've found is pretty much the exact same as Occidental (same layouts, same options, same materials) Only real difference I've found is the name CLC, and their bags have carrying handles on them. They're also a bit cheaper than Occidental
I love the Buckaroo belt, however one drawback is that there is very little wiggle room in the belt's size. I had to get a new one after losing some weight, and I read a comment from a guy who had trouble getting it on over winter clothes when he bought it in the summer
Pretty sure CLC got bought by DeWalt. 🙄 I have a 30" waist and the belt doesn't go quite small enough for me either. I think Dead On has a belt that enables you to adjust the total length of it. Good rigs, but don't last very long.
I pretty much started with a nylon CLC bag and a hammer holder. Still my favorite.
Been running the leather Occidental setup for about 5 years now. I clean and condition mine about twice a year. They still look great and are holding up well. I wear it nearly every day and we are rough on our equipment. Great product and worth the investment if you are wanting a good quality setup
Thanks!
Great video. Much appreciated sir. I'm 33yr in and I agree. Glued corners. Zip tap now for an emergency mend. Nylon rig now. The setup is never what you want. I use different rigs for different work. Can't throw away a difficult rig I just use it in a different application.
Great video, Scott!
I picked up a nice set of Diamondback bags a couple years ago and they have been a total game changer. I bought the “GRRANDE”. It has a nice wide sturdy belt sort of like a weight lifting belt which supports the bags really well. I like to wear mine up higher at the waist/above the hips and it feels really solid and comfortable. They also have a “hammer holster” which I think is the best way to have a hammer on bags. It sits at an angle underneath the right side bags with the hammer head up towards the belt. It’s easy to find, quick to pull out, doesn’t slap your legs, wont break your back if you fall, and doesn’t rattle or make noise. I also bought a flat bar holster for the other side that is the same deal. I’ve always liked having a flat bar within arms reach and that’s the first time I’ve been able to have it in the tool bags.
These things are super tough and extremely lightweight. They’re tough nylon. They also have a cobra belt clip which I like because you can set the belt to the exact size you want and then it locks the length in. You just simply click the buckle on. You don’t have to worry about stretching out belt buckle holes or if your perfect fit is between belt holes. They’re not cheap but if you are someone who wears bags often, I highly recommend them.
What a quality video sir. Every time I listen to your videos it feels like I’m with my grandpa when he’s in the shop woodworking and teaching me all these things he’s learned. Really appreciate it, I’ve been interested in blacksmith if recently and watched almost all your old videos about it, do you think you could revisit that topic? Thanks again
I'm a homeowner who's rebuilding a cedar balcony deck that I built 30 years ago. (I'm not quite the same guy who built it.) It felt good to put on my carpenter's toolbelt, but only after I readjusted the length to the buckle;)
That said, I like to use a belt and suspenders, and I'm going to ask the Lady Wife to outfit some new jeans with bachelor buttons.
I just got mine from Akribis a few months ago. I love the layout of the pockets and the reinforcement used.
My advice is carrying an auxiliary toolbox in your truck or on the site. If I'm not using a speed square that day, I'm not carrying it. Same with the chisel, the utility knife, punch and any other thing I won't absolutely be using for that day. As they say in the Army, grams become ounces, and ounces become pounds. When you are carrying stuff around your waist all day and suffer from sciatica, you need to carry as little as possible.
Bucket works good too!
@@nervousbreakdown1108 Unfortunately, the world has become somewhat less trustworthy and frankly my tools are expensive because I buy the nicest sort. I like to be able to lock my stuff up. Hate to have to do that, but it's a cost/risk ratio.
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Tool theft has always been an unfortunate fact of life, but with lots of the lowest-paid people not being able to earn enough to live on anymore, it's like you said, there's been a notable drive towards "less legitimate" means of making money. I'm not saying it's their fault that they find themselves too poor to make ends meet, however theft is still the wrong choice regardless.
I find myself relying on the old fashioned "good fences make good neighbors" adage now more than ever, and a good lock on a toolbox is at least in concept just another form of fence between your stuff and your neighbor's hands.
Wearing a tool vest helped my sciatica alot, so did a lot of corrective exercise.
I run the diamondback grande setup with the hammer and cat’s paw sleeves. I’ve got a strip nail pouch in the back. My bags are setup the same way as far as layout. Limited waste of motion and muscle memory = more work done. Been watching your vids since day 1✊🏼
Diamondback chopo rig, is the nuts. Better than leather and everything is where you need it 👍
My first nail pouches and hammer loop my mother made for me from old blue jeans. They lasted a long time. Rebuilt my first house with that gear.
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They don't make em like the used to (mothers)
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You are the man! Your mom too!
I’m a middle aged, self employed renovation/finish carpenter, been happily making sawdust for about 30 years. I do many tasks by myself and have been working mostly by myself for about 20 years. All that being said I’ve found that caring a bit more tools keeps me more efficient. Being able to change my set up allows me to lighten up my setup for simple tasks. I’ve run many different brands of belts and I’m beyond happy with my atlas tool vest set up. I can move things around easily and when I have to load up the vest distributes the weight better than suspenders I have found.
I have used Occidental Leather bag for the same length of time you have, I did oil them! My setup is similar to yours, but I use a hammer loop where you do and have a third bag there. I sometimes keep my hammer upside down in it or carry extra nails when sheeting a roof. When I was doing more finished carpentry, I put three nail sets in the left hand bag a a pair of dikes in the pocket behind the nail set pouches. A coping saw also fits in the rear bag or the side bag on the right
I bought a Buckaroo belt at Scott's suggestion and love it. I have an Irwin hammer loop (like Scott) and use ToughBuilt bags. I really like that they clip on and off. It makes it easy and versatile to shed a couple of pounds when I don't need something and easier to put the belt on, then clipping the bags in place after.
Saw your original tool belt video years ago when I was getting into the trades. The square, pencil, tape placement has stuck with me and I can’t fathom any other way to work.
I got my first bag setup from my grandfather, I only used it for a few weeks before I decided I would destroy it and got my own based on his setup. I adapted it several times to meet my needs as low voltage in resedential or commercial back to framing over to roofing and so on. I don't do construction anymore but I still keep a rear hammer loop on all my configurations, it was always the most convenient and comfortable. I ended up with a baby 12oz estwing but it was the best tool for what I was doing by the time I got out of that trade.
My tool bags are some fairly cheap leather ones that I found here in Tokyo that I've customized to suit my needs.
I'd love to have a set of Occidental bags but with the tariff on leather products and the yen-to-dollar rate right now, it's not happening 😅
The one thing that I do differently than you Scott is the hammer placement. I had the butt hanger hammer loop for years then I saw a video with Kyle from RR Buildings and he has a hammer sleeve or Hammer Holster, it's a like a scabbard for a sword, it rides between your right bag and your right jeans front pocket. I love it, the hammer is tucked in nice and tight and it is right there, it's not banging around your backside all the time, total convert, you could not get me to go back to a hammer loop on the belt for love or money LOL.
Cheers from Tokyo Japan!
Stu
Great video Scott. There is another You Tube channel called Perkins builder Brothers, they have designed and sell their own line of tool bags. While they are a little expensive they are very cool. They thought of everything. And on Suspenders, I started wearing suspenders a few months ago due to lower back pain. What a game changer it has been. I didn't realize that my belt was cutting into my waist and pinching my sciatic nerve. Suspenders fixed that.
I’m a big Occidental fan, and have a collection of bags and pouches that rotate onto my belt from time to time, according to needs. Occidental is the best.
I keep my chisel on the left, for the same reason as the tape-pencil situation. Chisel comes out with the left hand, hammer comes out with the right, hammer hits butt end of chisel.
I'm left handed, forget anything you can buy locally.I had custom bags from the original Diamondback belts made sometime in the mid 90's.I don't use them daily anymore but just used them to do some gutter guard at home yesterday.The wide belt is a must and I'm proud they still fit no adjustment needed!
You can buy ambidexterous bags, I have one. You basically just have a extra hamner loop.
Occidental makes leftie bags as well.
Got my first occidental oxylights in 2000 after 4 years in the trade. It was a game changer. Tried leather after those but returned to the leather nylon oxylights with a couple mods. Removed the top pouch on the fastener bag (left side) and moved the tape holder to that position. Carried my tape on the right side in my old oxys, moved it to the left side and like it much better over there, took a few months to relearn after all the years, but much more natural on the left side for me being a right handed carpenter. I also use a gatorback belt, keeps the bags more secure like the buckaroo, plenty of padding. The leather ranger belt lasts a long time but my older hips need the padding
Love your channel sir but nylon for me - all day every day. I started out on day one being given a 2 pocket canvas apron, a used Vaughan and told to "fill up" and get to work. I believe the first paycheck I got a single 10 pocket CLC and a separate hammer holder. It was great for forms, framing, roofing and prepping for stucco. I eventually got bags on both sides but it got heavy real quick. That's when I started to notice that most of the old timers only had one bag and a hammer holder so I switched back to that and glad for it. In my experience, nylon is lighter, wears slower and requires no maintenance.
I started out in rough carpentry, did a little finish carpentry, then started branching out into metal and wood fabrication and never looked back.
Oh, and ALL the old timers wore Redwings and ALL the young guys wore tennis shoes, sneakers or converse all stars!
1:32 got me 😂
I love your videos. I'm a lifelong carpenter and will only use leather. I too, have occidental bags, but recently switched to a brand called akribis leather. I highly recommend them. In my opinion they are better than occidental.
After watching this, I want to get some different bags before I build my next cattle shed next summer. I don't do this professionally, I'm just a farmer so I don't need perfect. I really wish I could find something that holds a drill well as I use that far more than a hammer as I like screws better for this kind of work.
Diamondback tool belts, with suspenders or a vest. You can purchase modules and make your own setup/kit OR you can purchase the kit they have set up for different trades. Warranty works. Veteran owned. Exceptionally crafted belts that take a royal beating in the temps here in Colorado. I have copied EC’s setup suggestions, as articulated here in this video, and it saves me hours and hours over the work I’ve done. Keeps me in the flow, and my muscle memory is on point with executing measurements - to cut - to installation on the job. Keep up the good work! (I have zero financial interest in Diamondback.).
I started out as a kid working with my dad and we always used leather craftsman bags. When I got out of school I bought a set of Occidental’s and wore them out in a bought 14 years. Wore a buckaroo belt with them for the last 4 years of there life. Now I have been wearing akribis for the last 4 years and love them. I frame and door concrete forming residential. Never have been able to convince my self in buying nylon.
I bought the leather seven bag framers from Occidental. After about six months, I decided that for a weekend warrior like me the saved weight of the nylon ones would be a better choice and would still last me my lifetime. IGot the similar set up in the oxy lights and love them. I put the diamond back hammer sleeve on them to carry the hammer, conveniently with no leg slap.
I've worked as a professional framer, finisher, deck builder and everything in between and have tried pretty much every belt setup imaginable (oh lord the $ I've spent). I stumbled on one I've had zero desire to change since trying it out 3 years ago, inspired by some Japanese carpenters I saw on instagram. I use a 2" police utility belt (no suspenders) with my hammer, pencil and knife in a holder on the right, with my tape in a small pouch behind it. On the back I have a utility clip (great for holding guns) and a phone holder. On the left I have a smaller bag with slots for a speed square, finishing and framing nails, loose fasteners, drill bits, cats paw, a nail set, and a slot I usually use to hold a chalk line but is multi-use. I got a magnet clip on amazon that fits nicely on the back that is great for all sorts of loose fasteners and bits. Having one primary bag makes it much easier to fit through doors, I don't have to do the sideways shimmy, and can worry less about scratching a finished surface with my bags on. The weight distribution ends up pretty equal with the hammer and tape on the right, and not having a leather bag keeps the overall weight down. With this setup I never really feel in want of anything, and feel very mobile compared to a bigger setup. I use Akrabis leather for the tool compartments, which are very nicely tailored to suit your needs.
I framed (metal stud) and hung drywall for 12 years, leather electricians pouch on the right for hand tools, pencils, knives etc... I used both nylon and leather over the years as a screw pouch on the left side, hammer loop in back and I always used a big 2 or 3 pocket pouch in the back for chalk lines, tape measure and other things
6:20 when Scott started swinging that hammer , I knew immediately where he was going with it . I to suffered from hammer handle leg bruising for years . I bought my Occidentals with the hammer loop and have had that set up for 25 years . Still using the same Occidental bags as well .
One of the things I love most about my Diamondback is that I have a spot for the chisel and nail punch on my left, which is the hand I hold it in. Just like what you said about the tape and pencil I believe every tool should be on the side of the hand that you use it in
Thanks for a fine presentation. For me it would be the (forestry) Cruisers Vest. I have some problems and ideas about that.
Now it's been a few years and there have likely been some improvements I don't know about. My vest is a tan colored Filson.
Any special ideas out there?
I’m a finish carpenter and I’ve really liked the holstery modular system. I prefer an apron in the shop but I’ve yet to invest in a really well laid out apron
This setup is smooth like butter. I run a buckaroo belt and fat lip oxys I never have hip or back pain
40 years ago I went to work on a framing crew, my first set of bags were just a pain to use, nothing seemed to be in the right position, I was always searching for the right spot. my boss had a set of the Occidental bags, I knew I had to have a set, with his help I bought a set and never looked back. I used that set up for years. I set my bags almost exactly like yours, the only thing is that I had a few more tools, that were valuable to me, a catspaw, the slim one not the chunky Stanley ones, and side cutters, you would be amazed often I used them on the job, and an awl, it was really handy while using a chalk line or a dry line. by the way, I am not had to use my nail bags in a few years but I still have them and they are still in great shape. adding a padded belt would certainly be a good idea.
I love my occidental tool belt. I did change the belt a couple years ago to a diamond back one. Its really nice. I also had a local leather guy make me a hammer sleeve like some of the newer belts have. Thats a game changer for me I love it. I did see occidental makes a hammer sleeve you can add to your belt now.
I’ve been a carpenter for over 20 years now. I wear the occidental adjust-a-fit framer bags for general carpentry for the last 15 years. I’ve been a finish carpentry specialist for the last decade, so I have a tool vest I wear for doing interior work. It keeps everything really close to the body and protected.
Bought alot of bags sold a few sets .. in the end
In a badger belt with occidental framer nylon bags without the leather tape measure grtting in the way at the top of the one bag occidental suspenders .. the badger belt is a piece of foam with material to prevent slip ... i prefer it over the badger in weight .. i have a badger ready for a new home
I slipped while walking on deck joists. Landed sideways on my hip and was protected by the speed square in that little slot.
Thanks Occidental!
Buy once, cry once.
Starting with Tool belt and boots is sound advice. As the years went by I also learned to lighten whenever it was feasible. Probably the biggest weight reduction I incorporated was switching to a titanium framing hammer.
Not only was I carrying less weight on my hips, my elbow and wrist thanked me. As a young (and obviously more knowledgeable 😂) carpenter I scoffed at saving 6 ounces in my rig. As an older man I wish I could go back and smack myself for not making that transition sooner.
Buckaroo for the last 5 years, cheap 3rd hand irwin one before that. Yeah it's a little heavy and bulky compated to some, but it is the most comfortable, especially when loaded up with a nail gun, or a couple of drills.
And I definitely have a think about what I need for the day- anything that's in there that doesn't need to be come out, and anything that needs to go in gets added.
Something you said Scott, in a previous nail bag video was you don't carry a cats paw - I always had one, because I was a fairly fresh apprentice and thats what everyone did. Your rationale being if you need to carry a cats paw you are making too many mistakes - this has definitely stuck with me and made me a much better tradesman! (Along with the myriad of other great advice you dish out)
Told my son the same thing as he became an ironworker. I bought him is first cheap set, but didnt cut corners on the important stuff. Then I told him pay attention to what the guys around you are using. Now he has 3 sets of gear with fall protection, all setup different for the different stuff they do whether its setting steel beams, working on the ground tying bar or doing floors, and just a generalized catch all set.
Bought huskies for my first commercial concrete job. They fell off the belt within the first month. Biught some replacement nylon bags that didnt last much longer, but got me to where i could afford an occidental set up after i made some money.
I hung my bags on a harness because I was climbing walls all day. Most form carpenters in my area add a hammer loop and klein bolt bag on the ass of the belt for added capacity. With lanyards and positioning hooks, tools and fasteners, you would be running around with 40-50lbs all day.
When I was transitioned to doing tilt ups, i bought a second bag set up. Got the wool lined hip pads and all leather suspenders to hang my bags on. Very comfortable, very durable. They make it in one peice, but i bought it all separate to keep things modular/replaceble/adjustable. Set things in place with chicago screws.
I will warn that the Occidentals with 3 decending pouces get hung up on form scaffold constantly, and the small bag dumps pretty easily. But having the extra bag for the plethora of fasenters used for tilts was very welcome. Kust gotta hang onto the bag if you are moving across the job quick.
I did a rivet job to my bags, juste one to joint the right small bag to the big one, the rivet is in the bottom from side and my hammer goes between the two bags ! Best thing I ever did for my rig
I have the same bags and i love them but i think the right side tool pouch leaves something to be desired. The leather hammer loop is kind of pointless and the tape holder gets in the way and sometimes can be painful on my hip. I usually just drop the tape into the bottom of that bag instead of using the tape holder. It would be cool if occidental came out with an updated framer's tool pouch that addressed some of the issues with the current one. Im considering switching it out to the trimmer's tool pouch or maybe the 4in1 tape holder.
Akribis leather makes a hammer loop that i recently purchased. Called HD4. All leather but its a hammer sleeve that puts it on a angle and keeps it away from your leg. Ive got mine just infront of my right hand pouch, quick to slide in, off the leg and importantly off the back side.
I've been through a dozens rigs or so. Nowadays, I wear suspenders on my pants and Badger bags (made by occidental), hung on an exofit harness with a klien bolt bag in the back and a wire reel between the bolt bag and fastener pouch. It's a super comfortable setup, and I haven't found any limitations in using it.
As a carpenter isn't carrying around a wire reel a bit excessive? Those things aren't light and if you're tying rebar you could just get a second cheap belt to throw it on instead of having to wear your full bags and the wire reel at once.
I ran the all leather Occidental bags created and manufactured in my home town, in my early days as a carpenter and an electrician, when the oxy lights came out I switched, built my bags from buying individual pieces, in all black color, first the super thick padded belt, 3 o’clock nylon oxy frammer with two small pouches on the outside, hammer loop at the 4 o’clock like Scott, at the 5 and 6 o’clock position I have a big nylon pouch for wire nuts, 6 and 7 o’clock another big nylon pouch for misc parts or whatever I need, 8 o’clock screw gun holster, 9 o’clock oxy light frammer with speed square slot and 2 small outside pouches at the beginning of each job I turn my. Bags upside down and shake everything out into a cardboard box tools, parts, trash, etc...then I strategically grab only the tools I need for the particular trade I am engaged in, load up my bags and get to work only with the bare minimum of tools needed, doing electrical or building, doing the bag dump out procedure as daily keeps the bags clean and light...
Long time ago my uncle was a carpenter. He wore a cloth 84 lumber nail holder tied in the back and his hammer went in the cloth tie on his side of course nails in the bag, whatever other tools, knife, chisel, pencil etc went in his pants pockets or he tied another 84 lumber cloth bag on his side. Never remember him having a fancy bag. This was in the seventies. Good memories.
Try Maka Leather Goods. Handmade leather in Tasmania, Australia. I run the thick belt they make with their standard carpenter setup. Maka can custom make a nail bag as well.
I think it’s an important balance as a tradesman on what to buy the best and expensive for what works with you. When I was young I was always told not to buy cheap tools. And I always go by that saying. I have then noticed what I should buy cheap (and good) and also not cheap (and good). Depends on the tools and the trade is what u noticed. Going to high school as a carpenter and putting myself through for some years after then becoming a union electrician for now almost 15 years. The type of tools you use and the belts you use is all personal preference. It takes time and is always going to get tweaked. I was with occidental for 10-12 years switching from carpentry to electrical during the process and now going towards some dimond back products. I love them much more. I do not know if they are going to last as long but they are awesome and won’t be mad if I need to buy again in 6-8 years from now. Who knows things may change. Just like our trades we need to adapt and be new dogs that have the knowledge of old ones.
I'm 35, started in carpentry 4 years ago ish. Did mechanics and welding before that. Bought a tool belt which I don't like, and am thinking about perkins builder belt. I'm fascinated with belts where you slide the hammer in a pocket
I’m working on the tape measure recommendation. I’m right handed and keep holding with my right hand, but then have to grab with my left so I can mark with my pencil with my right. I have no idea how I started this, but I will start using your recommendation. I’m old and just experiencing the use of my first belt.
That is how I have always done it. Works for me.
For framing/carpentry, I can vouch for getting a Diamondback belt. Seriously changed my comfort and efficiency while staying flexible across jobs (my setup listed below).
Mule Pouch (R)
Hammer holster (R).
Wrangell Pouch (L),
Nail Puller Holster (L)
Add-ons:
Magnetic Top Flap (R) (Pocket used for holding T-25 screws)
Sax Pouch (Clips on wherever needed for uncommon fastener storage)
Do your research, think through your daily motions and change it how you see fit. Make sure you pay attention to how they size their belts.
DB also experiments with a lot of belt/pouch accessories that might benefit someone with a range of responsibilities across jobs.
Hammer holster is the bee knees! It’s so nice having up front and it doesn’t swing around like a loop.
I still have two belts, nowhere like the kind of thing you guys carry, they're clumsy and get in the way. When I started the only people who carried a belt were plasterboarders, a two pocket belt sometimes a seperate hammer loop. I was given the hammer that nobody wanted and told to fill my coat pocket with nails (somebody told me later to put em all heads up !) and there I went building farm buildings, nailing precut 4"x2" to 6"x2" triangle pattern, two straight one skew, hundreds of 'em. All the timber was sawn, true size and heavy with chemicals. All major joints bolted. Nobody
owned their own tools, you just used what was in the van, no wet gear and a caravan to "live in". Happy days !
My start was very similar - one of the 2 pocket canvas bags that they got for free from the lumber yard (with the lumber yard logo on it), a used Vaughan, and told to "fill up" and get to work!
Im 71, my friend needed help to build a platform for a shed. When digging out my tool belt which i hadn't used in 12yrs since i roofed my house, i didn't realize how heavy it was. Oh for a younger man's day.
I will be 70 next year. Been in the field since 1975. Still working but not in "production" so instead of my cheap leather bags, (the last one was nylon) I think the last time i wore them was about 12 years ago. I switched to a multi pocket nail apron and a leather hammer holster. I travel light because of heat, weight and fatigue. I put the holster on my leather belt on my pants behind a belt loop so it doesn't slide forward. and loop the apron string through those belt loops and back across the front so it ties in front of me. Back in the very early eighties when i was on a construction home improvement crew we all wore leather bags, Except for this older carpenter who wore just a two sack cloth apron. He was 10-15 years our senior. Now i know why that is what he wore.
Same set up. I always have a small flat bar or glazing bar with me as well.
I'm a former theatre person. I'm the same way about setting up my tool belt a certain way. Everything had it's place and I knew everything was simply by muscle memory and/or by feel
I wore an oxidental set of bags with no belt that hung from my shoulders on harness, 10:13 for about 10 years. That worked for my back and body better than any belted bags. After working in 3 different states I never saw another carpenter wearing that set of bags. My set up was very similar.
ive had a buckeroo belt for about 11 years and it is awesome,im a carpenter in canada
I've gone to both wide belt and suspenders to take the pressure off my hips and bladder. Over the years some changes as to what I carry. Years ago we did much more hand nailing than we do now so I'm carrying less loose nails in the pouch but everything else is the same.
Classic example of a good set up
Still wearing a cloth tied belt for fasteners, and a leather holster for the hammer.but the apprenticeship was for log-cabin building. I do like suspenders on chain saw pants though.
What if we do it all in every trade? Whats the best setup for that?
Just wanted to brag a little about Occidental Leather. I have had my back pocket pouch by them for 27 years in the electrical industry. Great investment.!