I was one of their church leaders-not the shitty one they talk about- and I had them in my class when Cristal was going to turn 12. I wish I would have been out at that time so they would know there was someone within the church who is gay. I love the Ramirez Family and to see how these two have truly grown into the most dope people ever is so cool. Sending you all love❤ Tell your parents I say hi!! 🤟🏼
@@achaudhari101 if you really think you only have kids so they can produce you grandkids, I hope you never have kids. Plus...it's 2024, Gay people can have kids. Gay or not, people can choose whether or not they want to have kids.
@@achaudhari101 first of all you’re a freak for thinking of grandchildren as something that’s owed to someone, second what year is it? gay people have babies all the time and there are more straight people than ever not having kids. yall are the weirdest
I love the Aces! That phrase Cristal said at 7:00 was so true! I grew up Catholic and am Hispanic and felt the exact same. Like I knew I was gay young, and it felt like everyone else was catching up as I got older.
I've been listening to The Aces for years but I didn't know anything about their background. So cool that they found a way to be themselves in spite of the culture they came from and are now creating safe spaces for so many queer fans everywhere. Loved this conversation ❤
This episode made me cry. Growing up Mormon is so hard when it's something you don't want for yourself and it can be hard with your family. Mentioning their mom reminded me of mine and how I'm so lucky that she supports me and my sister (both of us left the church, she's out and married, I am not out to my parents). I cannot fully be myself because my parents have this certain image they want me to be (mostly my dad). There are severe consequences to live in full authenticity and it's so sad I cannot be myself as a grown adult. This story is so relatable and it's something I really needed to hear.
Such a fantastic, rich conversation! Cristal's naming of understanding their queerness in relationship to "this is wrong" is EXACTLY how I found language/understanding what I was experiencing as a 9 year old -- but in the late 60's when it was totally taboo, unsafe to be queer. It took me until I was 28 to fully come out because of this.
Cristal’s coming out story in youtube made me realize I had had so many girl crushes through out my life. It’s awesome to listen to them see how they came to their journey. Awesome interview 🫶🫶🫶
Identifying who you are because society/religion tells you it wrong is so identifiable as a trans woman who grew up in the 70s and 80s. Great episode 🌈
@@achaudhari101 AGP has been debunked as junk science multiple times. They didn't even have transgender women in the original study. In follow up studies cisgender women were as likely to be "diagnosed" with AGP as transgender women. Which all means you need to get a life and mind your own business
52:55: Hearing them say that about their first album was so healing for me because that is exactly the feeling it gave for me right at the time I needed it.
In my next life, I desire to still be a cis woman lesbian but in a cool band that feels like home going on tours doing music, art and stuff ❤🙏☘️ This podcast makes me love being queer so much that I choose to be queer in this life time and the next till eternity...❤🌼
I admire these girls. I know Mormon Orem, the heart of Mormon land. I took far too long to get myself out of the clutches of the nonsense that is mormanism and old men getting inspiration for us all. Its such a shock when you finally realize its hokus pokus nonsense and you wont lose your children eternally. OMG was I not the hard ass Mormon mom for way too long. Wishing you much joy with a life full of good people, great music and success in everything you try your hand at.
it’s rly wild bc Cristal feels super relatable to my coming out story (took me longer to accept it than her) and Alisa’s story is so insanely similar to my gf’s it’s hilarious honestly! how many people realized they were gay on humanitarian trips? lmaooooo
6:46 wow yep exactly. I’ve never been able to put that feeling into words until now. You feel so guilty about something you were taught is wrong but you don’t know why. If I wasn’t gay I don’t think I would’ve felt that way.
As someone who also grew up Mormon, yup to all the Mormon stuff. My gf's who have grown up in a different/relaxed religion or no religion, were hardly even aware of gays until their late teens. But for us, it's "gays are unnatural and perverts" from a young age (or at least it used to be). Therefore, i almost wonder if having to face that issue earlier in life brings more of us out of the closet compared to women/men who dont grow up in fundamentalist religions. I know quite a few from my congregation growing up that are gay, and as ive told people, it seems to be a pretty high average compared to outside of Utah.
I think it makes us be aware of the topic, but the negative thing is that it installs self-hatred that is difficult to remove in order to have a healthy acceptance. The ever lasting doubt of never knowing if we are going to hell is uncomfortable... I don't think non-religious families/gays go through that...
I love your content! Thank you! I would love to see a video on the topic of “unwanted consensual” sex when you are closeted and in a hetro relationship. I believe I have truama from all the years of not listening to my body and forcing myself to have sex with my husband out of guilt and wanting to do what was right. Coming out at 34 now, and looking back at the severe anxiety I felt when he wanted sex. And also still dealing with unwanted resentment toward him. A video on this topic would be awesome!
I worked a show at a venue The Aces played at on their last tour. I immediately downloaded their music and have been listening to them since. Thanks for this episode.
omg I love this! I love music, and especially queer artists (as I'm a gay woman into music). You should look into having MUNA on the pod. They're a really cool queer band, and they also have a podcast of their own as well!:)
i know this is a joke but they weren't out when the band started and one of them only left the church like 2-3 years ago. otherwise it would be a great name lmao.
@@tananario23 i didn't know anything about them and seeing the title, thought they would be aces. I think it'd a valid question why you would name your band after a community you're not a part of, but I assume it's ignorance
@ArtichokeHunter I don't know them, and I thought the same at first, but maybe their name originates in something else, like Aces from the cards? Ace also used to be a term for people who considered themselves clever/intelligent. Maybe they are playing with that.
@@KalhyceK im sure. It's just kinda sad to me for a band that is within the queer community not to be aware of ace identities enough to even say anything about why they chose that name when they're not ace themselves. I don't blame them for that gap in awareness but it did stick out to me as like... do they not even get asked about it? Are people so unaware of aces as part of the queer community?
@ArtichokeHunter I don't think it's about awareness but that their name originally had nothing to do with it. I just found an article reference in their wikipedia that says they were initially called The Rock-On Pigeons, when they were about 8 years old and it was only the sisters. When they added a friend, they called it The Blue Aces (around 2008), which is the same name of an Irish band from the 60's (I have no idea if they did this on purpose or not). Also, after a very brief google search, I found that Blue Aces is a way to refer to a certain certificate of identity. There are also several sports teams with said name. Maybe people hadn't really enquired about it, and they have never felt the need to refer to it. I do know that I wasn't aware of the term asexuality in 2008, and I was an adult with internet access at the time in a liberal country. I think I became aware of the term around 2012 or so. Maybe 2011... but not before. My point being, I prefer not to assume ill intent in this kind of thing when there is no evidence for it. Anyway, I understand this is not what you expected, but Mal also didn't ask about it and the conversation went a different way. Sometimes, it's just that.
Such great perspectives from religious PoV! Thank you 🙏 !! I LOVE this pcast ❤️🔥❤️🔥!!! Side note: Fer me… it’s like, the raspiness into the low register of the voice. Like… MUST be a millennial/zoomer thing? Like… Maybe that’s just like, fer me? 🤔 (like, this is just an interesting honest observation, like, zero disrespect 💟☮️🕉️☯️)
Must we have quite so many ads? I’m paying for UA-cam premium and also Spotify premium and still no escape from random adverts in the middle of the podcast flow. Disappointing.
Listening to people who say “like” every five words makes my ears bleed and my brain cringe. I enjoy Made It Out and am interested in what these women have to say, but this 76 year old publisher/editor/illustrator just can’t deal.
I was one of their church leaders-not the shitty one they talk about- and I had them in my class when Cristal was going to turn 12. I wish I would have been out at that time so they would know there was someone within the church who is gay. I love the Ramirez Family and to see how these two have truly grown into the most dope people ever is so cool. Sending you all love❤ Tell your parents I say hi!! 🤟🏼
Too bad the parents ain’t getting grandkids from either of them.
@@achaudhari101 You're so weird.
@@achaudhari101 if you really think you only have kids so they can produce you grandkids, I hope you never have kids. Plus...it's 2024, Gay people can have kids. Gay or not, people can choose whether or not they want to have kids.
@@achaudhari101 first of all you’re a freak for thinking of grandchildren as something that’s owed to someone, second what year is it? gay people have babies all the time and there are more straight people than ever not having kids. yall are the weirdest
@@achaudhari101lmao not BOTH of them saying they want kids in this video. you are so weird
I love how Rose and Rosie are like Mother to all of us
I love the Aces! That phrase Cristal said at 7:00 was so true! I grew up Catholic and am Hispanic and felt the exact same. Like I knew I was gay young, and it felt like everyone else was catching up as I got older.
I've been listening to The Aces for years but I didn't know anything about their background. So cool that they found a way to be themselves in spite of the culture they came from and are now creating safe spaces for so many queer fans everywhere. Loved this conversation ❤
This episode made me cry. Growing up Mormon is so hard when it's something you don't want for yourself and it can be hard with your family. Mentioning their mom reminded me of mine and how I'm so lucky that she supports me and my sister (both of us left the church, she's out and married, I am not out to my parents). I cannot fully be myself because my parents have this certain image they want me to be (mostly my dad). There are severe consequences to live in full authenticity and it's so sad I cannot be myself as a grown adult. This story is so relatable and it's something I really needed to hear.
Sounds like a bloodline extinct even if Mormonism is a form of degeneracy also.
Such a fantastic, rich conversation! Cristal's naming of understanding their queerness in relationship to "this is wrong" is EXACTLY how I found language/understanding what I was experiencing as a 9 year old -- but in the late 60's when it was totally taboo, unsafe to be queer. It took me until I was 28 to fully come out because of this.
Cristal’s coming out story in youtube made me realize I had had so many girl crushes through out my life. It’s awesome to listen to them see how they came to their journey. Awesome interview 🫶🫶🫶
Amazing first double interview! Great to hear a queer Mormon raised perspective
So glad they had each-other growing up 🫶🏻
I love them, and have seen them in concert, they are awesome musicians...
Love this podcast. Coming across gay guest I never heard of is great ❤️🔥
Definitely one of my favorite episodes!
I was eagerly waiting for this ❤
Love that. Having feelings we knew were wrong by standard of family and culture! So chronically devaluing our experience!
Gay Utah girl here, who also grew up Mormon and have so many parallels with this story. Thanks for the interview!
thank you for watching!!!
Identifying who you are because society/religion tells you it wrong is so identifiable as a trans woman who grew up in the 70s and 80s. Great episode 🌈
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This is a dude with autogynephila.
@@achaudhari101 AGP has been debunked as junk science multiple times. They didn't even have transgender women in the original study. In follow up studies cisgender women were as likely to be "diagnosed" with AGP as transgender women. Which all means you need to get a life and mind your own business
this podcast is about sexuality not gender identity. two very different things
@@bastetowl3258 no child, they are not. Not in this effed up society
I absolutely love everything about this episode im a huge fan of The Aces amazing job cant wait for new music from them ❤🌈 👏👏👏
Their mom’s a badass! ❤
this is absolutely the crossover i needed
52:55: Hearing them say that about their first album was so healing for me because that is exactly the feeling it gave for me right at the time I needed it.
On of the Best and interresting podcast today..hello from France
I LOVE THE ACES SO MUCH OMG!!!
I watched 2 min and was already hooked! What an incredible episode!! Love Love!🎉❤
Great episode!
Yay. See you in Indianapolis next weekend! 🎉 Manifesting a sea of lesbians at your show and a cute one just for me 😊
hoping for the same!!!!
Play loving and supportive turn is so important, and these two are proof of that
This was fun listen.
Wonderful episode! ❤
girl your hair is STUNNING!!!!!!
In my next life, I desire to still be a cis woman lesbian but in a cool band that feels like home going on tours doing music, art and stuff ❤🙏☘️
This podcast makes me love being queer so much that I choose to be queer in this life time and the next till eternity...❤🌼
Why do you hate your own kind?
@@achaudhari101 what are you talking about 🤥 I am confused....
@@magdalinekenita7628 You sound like you’re a “transbian” which is a dumb thing.
I admire these girls. I know Mormon Orem, the heart of Mormon land. I took far too long to get myself out of the clutches of the nonsense that is mormanism and old men getting inspiration for us all. Its such a shock when you finally realize its hokus pokus nonsense and you wont lose your children eternally. OMG was I not the hard ass Mormon mom for way too long. Wishing you much joy with a life full of good people, great music and success in everything you try your hand at.
I'm hoping that they come back to Boston soon. I saw them at the Royale, and it was such a cool night.
it’s rly wild bc Cristal feels super relatable to my coming out story (took me longer to accept it than her) and Alisa’s story is so insanely similar to my gf’s it’s hilarious honestly! how many people realized they were gay on humanitarian trips? lmaooooo
6:46 wow yep exactly. I’ve never been able to put that feeling into words until now. You feel so guilty about something you were taught is wrong but you don’t know why. If I wasn’t gay I don’t think I would’ve felt that way.
I love the Aces!!!!!!!!!
As someone who also grew up Mormon, yup to all the Mormon stuff. My gf's who have grown up in a different/relaxed religion or no religion, were hardly even aware of gays until their late teens. But for us, it's "gays are unnatural and perverts" from a young age (or at least it used to be). Therefore, i almost wonder if having to face that issue earlier in life brings more of us out of the closet compared to women/men who dont grow up in fundamentalist religions. I know quite a few from my congregation growing up that are gay, and as ive told people, it seems to be a pretty high average compared to outside of Utah.
I think it makes us be aware of the topic, but the negative thing is that it installs self-hatred that is difficult to remove in order to have a healthy acceptance. The ever lasting doubt of never knowing if we are going to hell is uncomfortable... I don't think non-religious families/gays go through that...
I love your content! Thank you! I would love to see a video on the topic of “unwanted consensual” sex when you are closeted and in a hetro relationship. I believe I have truama from all the years of not listening to my body and forcing myself to have sex with my husband out of guilt and wanting to do what was right. Coming out at 34 now, and looking back at the severe anxiety I felt when he wanted sex. And also still dealing with unwanted resentment toward him. A video on this topic would be awesome!
What a beautiful family, i stand with carlos too 😂❤
I worked a show at a venue The Aces played at on their last tour. I immediately downloaded their music and have been listening to them since. Thanks for this episode.
Go Aces!!
omg I love this! I love music, and especially queer artists (as I'm a gay woman into music). You should look into having MUNA on the pod. They're a really cool queer band, and they also have a podcast of their own as well!:)
Resume @40:00
Always nice to hear from my fellow ex-mo's!
I biggest fear is this podcast ending
Yay
Sorry but this is an Oscar nomination story, starting with the title
"The Aces" is a cool name but I feel like "From Mormons to Gay Rockstars" is more badass. Missed opportunity. Lol. Great interview, tho.
i know this is a joke but they weren't out when the band started and one of them only left the church like 2-3 years ago. otherwise it would be a great name lmao.
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Not knowing what a lesbian was… and then the L word came out 🎉
i keep waiting for them to be ace... but i guess the ace bands will have to come up with more creative names
Why would they posture to be people that they aren’t? 🙄
@@tananario23 i didn't know anything about them and seeing the title, thought they would be aces. I think it'd a valid question why you would name your band after a community you're not a part of, but I assume it's ignorance
@ArtichokeHunter I don't know them, and I thought the same at first, but maybe their name originates in something else, like Aces from the cards? Ace also used to be a term for people who considered themselves clever/intelligent. Maybe they are playing with that.
@@KalhyceK im sure. It's just kinda sad to me for a band that is within the queer community not to be aware of ace identities enough to even say anything about why they chose that name when they're not ace themselves. I don't blame them for that gap in awareness but it did stick out to me as like... do they not even get asked about it? Are people so unaware of aces as part of the queer community?
@ArtichokeHunter I don't think it's about awareness but that their name originally had nothing to do with it. I just found an article reference in their wikipedia that says they were initially called The Rock-On Pigeons, when they were about 8 years old and it was only the sisters. When they added a friend, they called it The Blue Aces (around 2008), which is the same name of an Irish band from the 60's (I have no idea if they did this on purpose or not). Also, after a very brief google search, I found that Blue Aces is a way to refer to a certain certificate of identity. There are also several sports teams with said name. Maybe people hadn't really enquired about it, and they have never felt the need to refer to it. I do know that I wasn't aware of the term asexuality in 2008, and I was an adult with internet access at the time in a liberal country. I think I became aware of the term around 2012 or so. Maybe 2011... but not before. My point being, I prefer not to assume ill intent in this kind of thing when there is no evidence for it. Anyway, I understand this is not what you expected, but Mal also didn't ask about it and the conversation went a different way. Sometimes, it's just that.
Do you know Shannon B? :))))))))))
Who? Mal? As in Shan Beveridge?
@@_asantesana_squashbanana_ I was kidding, of course they know each other.
Such great perspectives from religious PoV! Thank you 🙏 !! I LOVE this pcast ❤️🔥❤️🔥!!! Side note: Fer me… it’s like, the raspiness into the low register of the voice. Like… MUST be a millennial/zoomer thing? Like… Maybe that’s just like, fer me? 🤔 (like, this is just an interesting honest observation, like, zero disrespect 💟☮️🕉️☯️)
See y'all in Austin for goth babe 💙🩵
00:28, is there a prettier woman on the planet?
Must we have quite so many ads? I’m paying for UA-cam premium and also Spotify premium and still no escape from random adverts in the middle of the podcast flow. Disappointing.
We don't place the ads but will speak to our network to let them know - thank you for pointing it out!!
Conversation is interesting but I get so tired of hearing the word “like” constantly.
They got better as the episode went on! I think she was nervous.
Maybe it's 'like' a Los Angeles thing lol
I like it ☺️
It's funny, it was such a millenial thing but there have been two gen z guests that have used it a lot hahaha
I agree, enough with the “like, like, like”! It drives me nuts!
Listening to people who say “like” every five words makes my ears bleed and my brain cringe. I enjoy Made It Out and am interested in what these women have to say, but this 76 year old publisher/editor/illustrator just can’t deal.