Stargate: Asgard O'Neill Class Destroyer - Spacedock
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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One small correction - the strategy to self-destruct was not an Asgard one, but a Tauri one. They brought in Carter to think up a "dumb idea" that the Asgard were incapable of considering.
@Steven Strain Asgard came to Tauri to think of something they could not, they even stated they are not capable of such thinking anymore thus Asgard would not come up with bait into self-destruction strategy. So what they would learn? How to be "dumb" again?
@@s0nycz3kk Hehe. That sounds awesome :D
@@s0nycz3kk Didn't they do something similar another time also? Something about they wouldn't have been capable of thinking up an idea to fight the replicators with a substance from such a basic compound as sulphur, when describing the bullets that were taking out the Reps whilst the Asgard energy weapons could not? I can't remember it specifically but it was funny at the time.
@@KennyTC63 I forget if it was directly part of the 'we need a dumb idea' that led to the self-destruct plan, but they once mentioned that ballistic weapons (using bullets, basically) was a weird and crazy idea in their eyes, yet it seemed to work stupidly well against the replicators.
The best part of the whole 'dumb idea' line is that the SGC sends Carter, who is probably one of the most intelligent people they have. Saying something if you take it at face value that the Asgardians are of superior intelligence that one of the brightest Tauri minds is still considered dumb by Asgardian standards.
Well maybe they didnt read the art of war from sun tzu
The Asgard are so wonderfully overpowered, that's why we love them :D
can you make video about Battlestar Pegasus
Is Thor the leader?
Overpowered but flawed. no matter how advanced they were they couldn't overcome the limitations on their biology :(
thor is the supreem comander of the asgard fleet
can you make a video about the Nantex-class territorial defense starfighter?
Carter - "We kicked their ass... sir" O'Neil - "They had asses?!"
its a show, its not real
I’d say, in the end, they became more technologically advanced than the ancients. There are aspects where the Ancients still came out on top, but that may be - at least partly - due to the fact that the two races required different things.
It is worth noting that the O'Neill class was never defeated in combat by another race, they were destroyed by the Asgard themselves when they committed mass suicide.
Well there was one O'Neill class present at the Battle of P3Y-229. Though we don't know if the ship was destroyed, the Ori did win the battle, and the O'Neill is not part of the little flotilla of surviving ships in the next episode.
Spacedock that is true but considering it was not confirmed destroyed and there was no debrecen I choose to believe it was merely disabled
Or retreat.
+Galvars Yeah. I would go with retreat. The o'niel class would have been the last ship left intact the asgard would have bugged out once the last alied ship was destroyed, as you would.
still believe that they should've given them to earth.
The O'Neill-Class was one of my favorite SG-1 designs overall. Lovely.
1:32 "Replicators: Asgard camping hyperspace exit points, 1 v 1 me noob"
I wonder why the strongest weapons the Asgard developed (The Asgard Beam weapons seen on the Tau'ri ships) were not used on the O'Neill, too. Maybe in addition to those 4 Plasma Guns. They are far more powerful than those Plasma Cannons they use.
The beam weapons installed on the Odyssey were literally the first beam weapons produced by the Asgard.
If the Asgard would have had more time they would have likely installed them on their ships as well and taken them into combat but since the Asgard died out minutes after installing the last upgrades on the Odyssey (including the beam cannons) they didn't really have time for that.
Those beam weapons were a new system the Asgard developed specifically to use against the Ori for the Tauri and hadn't installed them on their ships because they were about to mass suicide themselves.
They probably had much kore powerful weapons including the plasma beams and given them to Taur'i but probable can't build them yet because technological limitations or atleast being able to produce technology is difficult as of yet.
They kind of died right after they made them
@@crocodileguy4687 they made a pretty sizeable fleet before they died
I am blown away by how smooth and professional your videos are. From the VO, to the selected visuals, to the beautiful documentary style editing... It's all done so well I couldn't help but congratulate you on a job well done.
You have well earned yourself a new subscriber.
Many thanks for your kind words.
Thank you for watching. :D
I like the VO too
I still think Samantha Carter deserves some recognition in Asgard naming cred. She also helped save the asguard from the replicators "several times", she helped pioneer human technology that allowed them (earth) to build their first hyperspace capable ship. Hell she and her dad were 2 of 3 people that finally stopped the replicators for-good.
Stargate SG1. one if the best Sci Fi series. really love the storyline. Too bad we can never see another good Stargate series
Universe was good, by the end at least, gritty, real, harsh.
Damn you for cancelling it!!
totally agree, Universe got a lot of potential to have a great story. Is a whole new adventure. Is not like a classic way, go out, explore, run like hell.
No matter which world they are exploring in Universe, is all about survival and sustainability in the ship Destiny
They should have continued SG Atlantis. There was so much more potential. Atlantis wasn't even explored to its fulllest. It's a big flying city at least.
Richard Lim
yes?
I think what I love most about these videos is the sense of professionalism and authority you manage to exude. It's enough sometimes to almost make me think I'm watching a breakdown and summary of a real-world warship.
I can't believe they committed mass suicide, I mean wtf! Who was the jerk that wrote that into the script? The Asgard were one of the best parts of Stargate.
Originally the idea was to have them solve the genetic problem with the frozen specimen they found but the writers decided against it for some reason
budget? or drama?
they suicided because they had no solution to their final problem, and they needed an end for the stargate SG-1 series. SyFy wanted to end the series for almost a few years by this point, and so this was the best way to go about it without it being meaningless.
watch it all, It comes together (and don't be a smart A).
I think it was the fact that they've spent the last thousand years fighting the Goa'uld who gained power due to left behind Ancient tech that made them want to remove all traces of their own technology
The Asgard should have given us their O'Neills before they destroyed their planet themselfs...
Lenus RIGHT!!
When was it said they destroyed themselves. I don't remember them doing that.
@@greatsayain Last episode of SG1 BibleThump
@@dertasdert2419 If you would have watched the episide you would know that it's not the database which let the ori know where they are. Maybe go primary first before you talk.
I think the Asgard trusted us enough with the knowledge to build them in the century or two it would take us to understand everything but not enough to have them right now. The Tauri were their chosen heirs but they weren't going to let us become a bunch of jackass trust fund kids.
I just realized that the shape of the Biliskirnir's bow bears a strong resemblance to the piers of Atlantis. I guess that shows some reference to the alliance of the 4 great races and sharing technology. I never noticed that before. God I love Stargate as a whole. Atlantis is my favorite, although I love SG-1 and I will always have a fondness for the second season of SGU. :)
Ah, the poor Ha'taks! Once the most fearsome of warships, alas, they became the galactic bitches of the Stargate universe.
NoSleepForCranky they are like space AK47s crude but effective weapons and readily available.
NoSleepForCranky Until pimped out Anubis ones show up.
That's what happens when you just use old technology for centuries and don't try to innovate. A bunch of pesky humans that steal anything they can get their hands on come along and overclock the tech until they're beating up everyone.
@@808INFantry11X I think it's better to compare it to a T-55.
Ak47s are still basically functional in modern day.
T-55s used to put the fear into the west, that the Soviets might sweep west with them and overrun Germany and France.
Nowadays... they're the global bitch tank that can be taken out by just about anything with a gun bigger than 20mm.
It's pretty clear that the Asgard "race" is not extinct, just the Asgard "nationality". Other members of the same "race" were seen in the Pegasus galaxy.
The asgard had no differences in "race" or "nationality" yes there were few that left because they didn't like the way the majority were managing things, but the asgard race were as one, I'm sure their cloning process eliminated "race" long long before these events
Get your mind out of American politics, and pay attention to the context of this video, particularly 3:58.
stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance_of_Four_Great_Races
christosvoskresye no Asgard tech was used on earth ships bar the shields and weapons given by Thor. Sg1 lost that ship that had all Asgard tech to the ori
Matthew butler what?
Matthew butler no they didnt lose it at all...
The mass suicide of the Asgard was one of the most disappointing storylines of any Stargate series, imho. It didn't make sense to me. No reason they couldn't just live out their natural lives.
And the O'Neil class really rocks.
Well they explained it. As they had no option to clone themselves anymore appropriately, and I guess their numbers significantly decreased also because of Replicators, they decided not to leave anything to chance and prevent any hostile power to acquire their knowledge and power. (although giving it all to humans was highly questionable 😀) But to me it does make a sense.
GICking it was sad... could they not simply cryogenic freezing maybe
Ikr, no Ascension, no hint that they even considered digitizing their consciousnesses(imagine uploading your mind into one of these O'Neil class ships), no cryo, no trips to Pegasus, no orbiting a black hole and slowing time down for themselves. A race like that has options.
@@kingmasterlord tought ascension had become impossible thanks to cloning
@@mbos14 they say that but they don't know, maybe the cloning meant that you had to ascend in a different way that they haven't figured out yet.
3:18 Correction: "as part of a Samantha Carter strategy"
Indeed. The asgard were too "smart" for such tactics, thus they enlisted the help of a "primitive" human to fight the replicators. :)
Every Video this guy has posted that ive watched has had errors like this....so no surprise....
I loved Stargate. I liked all of the different series. Even SGU. Wish they would bring SGU back or start a new part of the franchise.
The O'Niell Class can travel to Pegasus from Earth in a few hours. A Biliskner Class ship can travel from Ida to Earth in under the span of a day (SG1: S4E1 Small Victories). Thor's new O'Niell Class ship towed the Prometheus over 1200 lightyears in 6 seconds (SG1: S6E12 Unnatural Selection). At these speeds, it would take 4 hours and 10 minutes to get from Earth to Pegasus. Keep in mind, it was implied (and can be reasoned) that it goes even faster without towing a ship. Asgard hyperdrives usually eat close to all of the power their generators are capable of creating. But when towing a ship, they use extra energy to both tow the ship and enlarge the subspace field to cover both ships for hyperspace travel. This is likely why Atlantis, even powered by 3 ZPMs, didn't instantly make it to Earth. Atlantis needs to have shields online the entire time during space travel and is a significantly larger.
those are all great points
though my personal headcannon is that the asgard hyperdrive will eat as much power as you can, and choose, to feed it, and the more power you pump into it, the faster it allows you to travel
Can you explain to us why the Ancients didn't power Atlantis with 12 ZPM's? It would have been invincible.
@@MuffinMan0521 Why would they though? Back in their time ZPMs could be manufactured, so should they require more power, ZPMs could've been simply replaced.
Also another thing is that all power lines would have to be scaled to withstand the output of that many ZPMs, which needlessly complicates the design and ultimately there was no need for that.
Man that is a very cool looking ship
The enormous Asgard potential totally wasted in the most pathetic way.
Agreed.
Yeah but they aren´t nearly as powerful as the milky way asgards and are kind of douchebags compared to them.
Still have to find it kind of ironic, their species only died because they lost the desire to fuck, any biologist could tell you that cloning without keeping the original source material would lead to genetic degradation, we continue to live healthy because our parents aren't that closely related DNA sources that allows for that stability.
@@TheLegoMasterMan100 They did. The deterioration came from copying the SAME original template millions of times over thousands of years.
@@JayGriffinblaze no doubt, I mostly said it as a joke, however I still find it ironic that the asgard were so advanced, but did not see the problems caused by the lack of genetic recombination, or the degradation that would have resulted from their cloning.
But like you said and we all know, the asgard's issues were stemmed from a lack original genetic material.
this is one of the coolest looking spaceships I've_ever seen
Christofer Riche B5 shadow
/Vorlon ships are scary crazy also.
If the Asgard had refitted these with their plasma beam weapons they would have cleared the galaxy of the Ori in a DAY. These are far larger and more powerful than Daedelus-class ships and even a Daedelus was more than a match for a single Ori ship once they had plasma weapons. Unfortunately that wouldn't have made for a good story so the poor Asgard had to be sacrificed.
+Dan Nguyen yeah, however during the same war, (and whilst fighting another war in another galaxy)the technologically inferior humans managed to outfit at least 2 vessels with beam weapons, whilst at the same time hiding the existence of said technology from the population of their own planet. Hell if the one Asgard ship to encounter the Ori when they first came through their supergate had had one beam weapon on board it would have made short work of all 4 Ori motherships and probably destroyed the super-gate, I commend your attention to realism but realism and the stargate 'verse don't exactly get on well.
WUZLE
Just remember than in Ori galaxy, the Ori are all powerful so you cant do shit there.
Problem is they cancelled the show so this was a way too kind of close out the story of the asgard I'll be it flawed.
Well if they outfitted it with a ZPM it would've been just as potent t
@@Cheesusful actually the BC304s were only effective because they were small enough to dodge Ori main weapons , a O'Neill is a gigantic target.
I'd say that the O'Neill is more like thousands of years more advanced.
I would love to see an O'Neill go up against a Wrath Hive Ship. We know the Asgard battled them after the war with the Ancients, but those wouldn't have been warships.
one on one, oneill would most likely won, with damage though. should Asgards made more of those, wraiths would be annihilated.
The season 3 cliffhanger/season 4 opener episodes where we first got to see the O'Neill were the episodes that actually got me into Stargate. Was absolutely obsessed from that moment on.
3:17 hold up there, it was not the asgard's plan. It was Samantha Carter's "Stupid plan"
I love the design of the Asgard O'Neill class ship !
Very well done! This video is so well put together, content-wise, production-wise and otherwise!
2:32 -- The narration speaks of what is beneath the O'Neill's shields, but what is pictured is the Daedalus. Oops.
3:03 -- The replicator blocks weren't vaporized. They rained down on Orilla and reformed into a planetary invasion force of mechanical bugs. It seems odd that the Asgard, having observed that human-built kinetic weapons were the only effective means of destroying replicators to date, would fail to mount kinetic weapons, even brutally-overpowerd ones in typical Asgard-fashion, on the first class of Asgard warship named after a human. Rapid-fire point singularity projectors, or something similar.
I've just discovered your channel and have watched like 15 of your videos. I love everything that you do!!
Please do a video of the Wraith hives!
and the BC-304, Death Glider, Ha'tak, the motherships of many races etc xD
I am hyped for this.
Dont forget the alteran/lantean [ancient] ships such as the warship the cruisers the defence sattelites the city ship and the jumpers along with destiny and its shuttles and the seed ships
Awesome channel! Keep up the great work!
Actually the O-Neil hyperdrive at full power covers 200 light years per second it can cover 3 million light years in little under four hours and 13 minutes to be exact lol
200 light years per second,your math skills are so bade,15times 200 is 3million,you sayd 200 light years per second so do some math and you know that that ship flies this 3 million light years in 15 seconds.
Enterprise meets the Asgard ship for a race. 1 2 3 Go. Kirk: Punch it Scotty. Mr Spock: Jim there already out of sensor range. Asgard: Ha Ha Ha
Wasnt there a vid comparing all drives netween series u think stargate was second
The narration and presentation is perfect of the video Good job bro !
The Asgard ships are amongst my favourite designs.
Thumbnail image courtesy of the awesome Overseer at DeviantArt: overseer.deviantart.com/
Thanks for putting up the link to the art. Anytime ya can send some views an artist's way its great.
Spacedock good art
I like it
Imagine being so legendary, a super intelligent species named their most advanced, strongest ship after you.
To put into perspective how fast these things are.
The Ida and Milky Way Galaxies are about 4 million light-years apart.
The O'Neill traveled that in HOURS.
Pegasus and Milkyway are 3 million light-years apart.
The Daedalus Class with asgard hyperdrives takes 18 days to make that trip. With a ZPM it takes about 2-3 days.
18 days for 3 million light-years vs HOURS for 4 million light-years
That is insanely fast
Third said it would take MANY hours to get to their galaxy. How many is many?
@@nihilityjoey less than a day I remember the episode where an O'Neill towed the prometheus to the Ida Galaxy it took less than a day. If it wasn't towing the prometheus it probably would have been even faster
Ah, my favourite Asgard ship. I love the Asgard, it's a shame that they were never able to recover from generations of cloning. It would've been amazing to seem them prosperous and flourishing. They could've intervened in the Pegasus galaxy and kicked some Wraith arse!
A damn shame the species was killed off the way they were.
Great Stuff; very detailed and well presented! A request; could you possibly cover the Star Wars ship classes used by Boba Fett and other bounty hunters, such as the Firespray patrol craft, and The Slave II as well as others?
Is it just me or the O'Neill class looks like an axe, while the older model looks like a hammer?
You're right.
Remind you of anything? Cough, cough... (Thor MCU), cough, cough!
@@keirfarnum6811 guess thors O'Neill class was named Stormbreaker
Man i loved this series.... ALOT, i must've seen the complete series a few times by now.
My all time favourite ship !!!
If the Asgard were able to meet up with their brothers in the Pegasus Galaxy they could of stayed alive. But that would of screwed with the storyline. Or even if the Ancients were able to lend a hand they could of saved their Allies. Or the Asgard could of created a Asgard Human hybrid to stay alive.
even odder that they cant solve their cloning/reproduction issue. i mean even we now have dna data stored on computers, surely they have some dna data from before cloning caused they to be unable to reproduce?
Are you five? have* have* have* have* or 've* 've* 've* 've*
Are you so pathetic that you have to get on the internet and insult people to make yourself feel better?
Nope, it's not to make myself feel better. I just can't stand "could of" "should of" "would of" It's such an easy part of the English language that it baffles me when people get it wrong. It's worse than your/you're.
Their gonna get there beer over they're. :)
CORRECTION
The ASGARD ship take 4 days from Earth to Lantea
Daedalus 18 days minus 2 weeks(14 days) = 4 days
season 3 episode 2 Dr. wear says that
@Spacedock 2:24 is incorrect, the O'Neill Class never did this! That was the 304 Dadelaus class that did that in the Atlantis series.
Go to the timestamp you provided.
Read the text on screen.
Then rethink if your comment makes sense.
1:11 kJ is not a measure of power, it is a measure of energy. Power is measured in W or kW is you want to, which is 1 W = 1 J/s.
I wonder whether the power supply onboard Asgard ships was better than the ZPM.
Destiny & Asgard O Neill Destroyer are the most beautiful ships
You said that the firs O'Neill class destroyer was destroyed as part of an Asguard strategy, but in S4E1 the Samantha Carter comes up with the strategy and the Asguard themselves say that it is a strategy that they would never consider themselves. Also, the Asguard thought the plan wasn't going to work.
So safe to say, the O'Neil is more than a match for the Death Star :P
YES! More Stargate!
Got to love the asgard
Fact check: I'm sure there were O'Neill class ships present at the first engagement with the Ori and it didn't end so well for our side, probably because the O'Neill class had pulse canons and didn't appear to have the more powerful plasma beam weapons given to the Tauri just before the Asgard commited mass suicide. Just saying.
there were but I dont think it was hit. I didnt see it go down
@@jonreese7066 Things some times happen off screen.
I certainly inferred that every allied ship was left adrift as the Ori ships pretty much passed through the wall of allied ships to get to their destination leaving a space junk yard.
~17ly/s !?!
That's ~550,000,000c, or in Star Trek parlance, Warp factor ~9.9999999.
That's pretty damn fast!!
If I were to include one of these in a fanfiction I would add two plasma beam weapons and maybe a couple of torpedo launchers
Well, that was a freakin' mouthfull.
Gotta love those guys.
Ok I am 2 years late but...... Ive been calculating. If the O'Neill, was able to travel 3 million light years in 2 days and the Daedalus class ships were equipped with these hyper drives. And they should be since in the last episode Thor mentioned they equipped the Daedalus with their most advanced technology and they even gave them their whole archive of knowledge. They could try to catch up to the Destiny. Dr. Rush said they are several billion light years away from earth. So lets say its about 10 billion light years. 10,000,000,000 / 3,000,000 =~20 years. If its 20 billion light years then its 40 years. That would be life long missions. And lets say its one way.
Man, I don't even like using my nice pocket knives. Imagine using the prototype for that strategy!
I'm not convinced that was an O'Neill class P3Y229. Same basic ship design but it was the same size as the 304. The O'Neill class is about 8x the size of a 304 and larger than an Ori mothership.
Id like to see a video or multiple videos on the weapons of these shows and their ships. Like the Asgard beam vs Asgard ion guns vs Ori beams and so and so and such and such. Maybe 1 video per show or something.
I would enjoy an entire series based on the rise and fall of Asgard
AHH, good old Bridge commander bridge tune
The asgard are still out there. Waiting for them to come back in a new series.
I hope you'll do a few more Stargate Ships! Maybe even a video comparing the motherships of various races or something
Looks Cool. If Space was that cool.. I will have never left :~)
Great Job!!! 👍
I would soooo live on that ship.
Awesomely awesome job here. I just finished watching Ark of Truth myself. Subscribed and keep up the good work.
need we point out that engine power is measured in Watts (Energy per time) whereas "Joules" are a measurement of a quantity of energy.
I'm not signed to patreon. I genuinely enjoy the channel so I supported by getting a t-shirt.im not partial but the Stargate series is my lilypad. Thank you. Do that voodoo you do. BTW Asgard gifted Earth with tech BUT what/were the O'Neil fleet. Fuzzy space
I don't care what anybody says the Prometheus was my favorite shift because of its looks but nothing was more badass than the 304's
When you're fighting wraith fleet and this bad boy comes to reinforce in Pegasus Chronicles...
The goa'uld ha'tak would be a nice ship to look at. Mostly because it functions like a mobile military base.
i love the asgard :D
They could have left us 2 O'neills parked on the dark side of the moon, new spinoff, Stargate: O'Neill with 2 new crews, 1 for each ship in paired and separate adventures. C'mon, we really need a kick ass Sci-Fi series for 2022 Ship Names are simple O'Neill-1 O'Neill-2
Let it take place in 2022 as well, so we see new crew, military, personnel, staff for actors with some originals doing cameos here an there
I love the Bridge Commander music :D Love the Game especially with the Kobayashimaru mod its awesome . and nice vids just found your channel and waching video after video good job
Can you do a video on the Covenant's CAS Class Assault Carrier? btw I love your videos keep them up!
Hello. I do enjoy watching your videos. Could you do one on the USG Ishimura, if that's possible?
The Pegasus galaxy is not 3 million light-years from Earth, but 300 million light-years from Earth. And it usually takes an Asgard ship one month to travel that distance.
Great video, thank you
I would love to see a match up between the O’Neil class and something from Star Wars! Also watching this dump on anything from the likes of a Halo universe would be hilarious as much as I love Halo!
Nice Ship, Nice video.
Now does anyone make a toy of this ?
I never realised that there was so much to consider when drawing a CGI model.Almost as if it was real.
Would be cool to see some videos about the ships in the Starcraft universe.
Good to see the Asgards got the two "L"s correctly.
LOL Started video, hears music from Star Trek Bridge Commander. I loved that game.
Great video series dude.
I was wondering if you would ever do something from Metroid. Like the BSL Research Station or one of Samus's gunships or maybe one of the Federation warships from Metroid Prime 3?
That'd be fricken great!
might want to review "Nike" not a ship but a continental siege unit. The MK23 Bolo AI tank armed with 2 x80cm superhellbore cannons almost single handle spear headed the defense of the planet Santa Cruz from marauding mercenaries sent to terrorize the colonist. Nike destroys all the mercs space assets and two more advanced golem tanks (bolo-like tanks without bolo-esque AI ,possessing prepackaged battle plans)
Very infomative. Thanks.
It was Samantha Carter who came up with the idea to sacrifice the O'neill to defeat the replicators.
Great vid. Can we get one on the SA-34 Hammerhead from Space : Above and Beyond?
Hey Daniel, could you do a video on the Asgard Daniel Jackson class science ships? Appreciate your work man.
Where do you guys put the asgard in terms of tec relative to the ancients??
Everytime I see one of these vids I can't believe MGM is just sitting on this franchise...
Well they came out with SGU which was a scifi drama that tanked. As opposed to SG1 which was a scifi adventure. SGU didn't even get fun till the last few episodes.