I just crossed the Atlantic in an A380, amazin', just amazin', Airbus has made the biggest plane with the smallest loo in the sky, for you guys, better decide if it's #1 or #2 BEFORE you enter, you can't turn around in there. I'm what the cable guy calls a large fellow, they nearly had to lube the seats to get me out of that cattlecar, good thing drinks were free, I couldn't do that sober.
@@kadammikkelmus863 Even Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson has hardly 120 kg. Landwhales better go by ship anyway, great heights generally are a health hazard should You sport such masses.
Best way to bend marine hose is put some sand in a skillet and heat up the sand. Pour the hot sand into the hose cap the ends. Make your bend and let it sit till it cools. Pour out the sand and you have a perfect bend.
Just found out about your channel from Leo on Sampson Boat Co. and I'm only onto the 6th video in this playlist of your refurbishment of Athena. I'm hooked. Thank heaven I'm retired, so I can binge on these videos. But it'll be a sad day when I catch up and have to wait and wait and wait and............ Seriously, your personality is infectious and the way you approach the problems (let's re-phrase that - opportunities) is interesting. Best of wishes in your upcoming travels. I'm jealous.
I've been watching your progress for several years, but I've gotta say Mads, I know that we don't get to see everything, but it sure seems to me that your back is stronger than it was when you started. I totally thought that as soon as I saw you moving that toilet. All this DIY seems like it's been good physical therapy!
You can use silicone pads to keep things on top of the cooktop. Get thin ones, they are flexible, easy to clean, can go between the induction top and any pot, and grippy enough to keep things on the stove even if things get a wee bit sideways.
Welcome back, looks like a lot of fun projects ahead. You can heat bend PVC to almost any shape if you can't bend the hose as necessary. The other option is to make some fittings out of epoxy/glass over styrofoam shaped cores. Always make at least two if it's something custom. It's not the valves, piping or macerator pump that will fail on the head but the leaking AAA batteries. LOL
Hi Mads, You mentioned making a fibreglass front to the sink to accommodate the bowl. If you use a domestic semi-recessed shaped sink that’s taken care of in the design. This shape seems perfect for your situation.
What about a farmhouse style sink that juts out a little from the counter so you don’t have to make that fiberglass cover. Id think that would maximize your sink size.
Athena is coming along nicely. Just one thought about the heads is that there may be to much room either side of the head. When at sea you need to be able to brace yourself with your arms and legs. If the space either side and in front of the head is to great you will end up sliding all over the place in a rough/choppy sea.
Great to have you back! I think making the odd-shaped sink yourself would be worth it. Drop-in sinks are a pain to keep clean in tight areas like that. Hair and muck gets stuck in all the little corners.
Also, its great to have a dished base to your basin. Domestic steel basins tend to be flat based, and the last bit of water hangs about on a less-than-level boat.
The sink on Uma of "Sailing Uma" channel is a custom flip out sink that is concealed when not in use and looks slick. They are both young architects and have nice design details.
Hi Mads. Using a ceramic white sink you don’t need to make a flange underneath to come up and meet the lip/edge of the sink , just set it 2/3rds into the vanity unit.
Please be aware that when you put your face in the sink you also put your bottom in the shower. This looks like a good layout. I will second ilCigno's comment about radiusing inside and outside corners. I would suggest larger than the stir stick radius throughout the whole bathroom. Very good idea on the fuel polisher. Manually tripping a polish near the end of a long passage can prevent motor trouble in a channel or while docking. I love your enthusiasm for the projects this year. :)
I switched from a tank hot water heater to an on demand propane hot water heater. I highly highly recommend that you look in to this. Additionally, for cabin heat I used an Espar diesel heater that provides dry heat. Allowing combustion in your cabin fills every surface internal to your cabin with water and leads to mold.
Looking forward to seeing your gimbaled oven box. We're also in the process of converting to an all electric galley on SV Ramble On and I need to construct a gimbaled enclosure as well. I'm also liking the new Carhart coveralls. Your Bjornkladder-style work pants have served you well over the years. Keep up the good work.
Athena dwarfs the buggy. The private water closet is confining at best. I'll take a daisy chain wherever possible. A loo of that stature could sit proudly on a bow sprit. Plumbers here finish the install with copper plated 1 cent USA Penney; proudly. I suggest using the bluetooth application everytime the coast guard boards your vessel. No one else uses two stoves...or do they? Looking forward to the next episode, I'm already plumbing hot water ballast tank ideas. Keep it light ' brah!
Hey Mads, You should consider separating your Black Water from your Grey Water. 2 separate holding tanks. There are grey water filter systems out there. In North America, many areas do not allow you to discharge grey water within a certain distance of land. If you filter it, you can discharge. I am sure Ava would appreciate the opportunity to have showers on board when moored or docked. I plan to do this on my boat! Imagine a nice hot 10 minute shower anytime! Provided you have a water maker or shore water.....
Looking very good! I will note that on my boat, the head sat on a pedestal that was probably about 25 mm plywood with several layers of fiberglass on both sides. The pedestal was also very small, barely large enough for the base of the head. (it was on the centerline of the boat up in the bow, which meant it was triangular shaped). I was surprised at how heavy duty it was.
Man you are incredible. The effort tha you put into the reconstruction of Athina and the amazing effort to film every little step of all this is simply out of this world. Congrats!
The head looks pretty good Mads, there is one more thing you probably want to think about before you start building though. As it sits it will be great while sitting at anchor or thee dock however when you are under sail you probably want to be thinking about a handhold/foothold or two. Can be a bit unpleasant if you can't stay on your throne.
Find a 'sweep 90' bronze elbow to make the turns at the back of the head. Just grind the internal opening at each end to a bevel and clamp it in place with a short length of hose, then you can clamp on the rest of the hose with no 'kinking'... There's also the option of using a bigger 'Tip-up' sink on a lower vanity. When not in use, it swivels up and locks to the bulkhead, the drain is mounted at the back. Since it's unlikely you'll be using the head and sink at the same time, you get a bigger sink without losing any 'head' room...
Only problem I have had with my dual source Rartain head is the small seal the keeps "water" out of the macerator. I now carry many seals and change every time I have the bowl off for any reason. I believe the Rartain can use 1 in or 1.5" sanitation hose. I think the 1" is better as the velocity helps prevent build up and your bends are much easier - plus it is less expensive. Have fun and play safe.
Good to have you back. Hope you enjoyed the hols. Could you fashion a single panel for the sink unit. Melt some plastic and bend or do your fibreglass thing?
Consider using hard pipe like pvc instead of head hose. Cheaper, stronger, smoother, and way more odor blocking. I did it on my sailboat after realizing how ineffective even the best hose is at staying odor free. There are special adapters for joining solvent welded pvc to any flexible hose that might be necessary in some locations. Unless you already bought a mess of head hose!
The head looks good to me Mads. I had a Westerley Centaur and the only way I could sit on the toilet was to drop my trousers outside the head and go in backwards!
I'm glad You were able to spend enough quality time with your fiance in LA. And I'm happy to see You back. It's been a while since I've seen your video last time. Welcome back and happy DIYing
Consider having a very flexible power cable to the gimbal mounted oven. Also run it in a way to get minimum flex or twist as it swings. Maybe also connectors at each end so you could make a spare cable. So called arctic cable maybe?
Happy New Year Mads! Who would have thought that you could do fiberglass work outside in January?! -Crazy...take it while you can. I love the CAD design work you do...definitely something I will do with any boat changes I do in the future. Thank you for another fantastic video :)
@Sail Life You say you won't use that app but C'MON!! That's got to be one of the best pranks ever. I also think it's only appropriate that I mention I actually unintentionally watched this episode on the bog. It's not my preferred location for a good Sail Life episode but you have to manage your time wisely every now and again.
I will be keen to find out about the make and model of your convention microwave. I have been looking for one for a while and your looks much better than the one I have been able to uncover.
Fiiiiiiiinally a new SailLife video! :) Concerning the head: I would incorporate a recessed toilet paper holder into the vanity. That way, you won't hurt yourself on that darn thing everytime you walk in and out of the toilet.
Well, you might not use the App but you could use Bluetooth to talk to Node Red or some other Smart Home Installation and make your own custom control panel. Then you could use the Data to monitor the Water Usage, how full your Tanks are and so on.
Looking Spiffy in your new Carharts Stewardess, that guy was pulling out a tape measure as he went into the bathroom. When I was in Jr high my drafting instructor said if you put the sink close to the toilet if you had the flu you could use both at the same time. He would be proud of your design!
This is my first comment after binge-watching all 352 or so videos. I am very impressed with all your ‘spiffy’ work. Welcome back. Glad to see you’re back at it!
Welcome back mads glad you all had a wonderful holidays. The layout of the bathroom look great love the idea of using the airplane bathroom as a template lol awsome never would have thought of that. Cant wait to see all of the fun things you have in store for us next , lots of exciting projects. !!
CAD lol. Mads, take a look at child proof stuff, you can get a guard for a standard cooktop/hob but I am not sure how sturdy it would be on rough seas. New year, now work clothes I see 👍
If welding the sides of the gimbaled box isn't necessary for structural support you want to consider attaching them with rare earth magnets to leave access for service and cleaning
Can you imagine the fun you'll have flushing the loo by remote control whilst someone is sitting on it?!?!? Your sander is having a longer holiday than you Mabs. Happy new year.
I'm glad you are getting sanitation hose before you finalize the head design. It is extremely difficult to install and replace hoses in a cramped space. I've done it.
I would also check out “Vessel Sinks” they mount on top. It’s super easy to install, many different styles to choose from. Very nice video! Thank you! 👍
I really like how it is turning out. Measuring the airplane head was a great idea! I am needing to do something similar in mine, I will be tearing it out within the next couple of weeks!
Beautiful idea measuring the airplane loo, these guys have been optimising those for a century now.
Unfortunately, they never optimised them for people wearing bulky wet-weather gear. So we'll see.
@@Garryck-1 Or being above 120kg
The Airlines have zero regard for comfort , aesthetics or design. Think flying Greyhound Bus .
I just crossed the Atlantic in an A380, amazin', just amazin', Airbus has made the biggest plane with the smallest loo in the sky, for you guys, better decide if it's #1 or #2 BEFORE you enter, you can't turn around in there. I'm what the cable guy calls a large fellow, they nearly had to lube the seats to get me out of that cattlecar, good thing drinks were free, I couldn't do that sober.
@@kadammikkelmus863 Even Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson has hardly 120 kg. Landwhales better go by ship anyway, great heights generally are a health hazard should You sport such masses.
Best way to bend marine hose is put some sand in a skillet and heat up the sand. Pour the hot sand into the hose cap the ends. Make your bend and let it sit till it cools. Pour out the sand and you have a perfect bend.
Just found out about your channel from Leo on Sampson Boat Co. and I'm only onto the 6th video in this playlist of your refurbishment of Athena. I'm hooked. Thank heaven I'm retired, so I can binge on these videos. But it'll be a sad day when I catch up and have to wait and wait and wait and............
Seriously, your personality is infectious and the way you approach the problems (let's re-phrase that - opportunities) is interesting. Best of wishes in your upcoming travels. I'm jealous.
That moment when you step out of the airplane loo with a measuring tape in hand...😆
Ha ha
The key is to look pleasantly surprised ;)
Never thought of that but that's just priceless )))))))
Priceless! Too funny.
If anyone asks, just say you took the tape measure to see how long you went to the toilet for.
I watched all your Athena videos! I’ve been waiting quite a while for a new VLOG. It was worth it.
Uhhh hurts my heart to see that awesome guitar lying around and full of dust!!! Keep up! You are almost there!!!
I've been watching your progress for several years, but I've gotta say Mads, I know that we don't get to see everything, but it sure seems to me that your back is stronger than it was when you started. I totally thought that as soon as I saw you moving that toilet. All this DIY seems like it's been good physical therapy!
I think you did a great job with measuring the air plane bathroom! Very Smart!
Can't wait for the boiler video!!! Check out Wallace Grommet 's comment on the pvc pipe !
Brilliant idea using the airplane head for space management layout , things are really falling in place .
Mad's back!! Head is shaping up nice. I like the gimbaled stove/oven combo. Nice design.
Welcome back! I do have to complain about the lack of glorious sanding in this inaugural video, though... :P
Haha, there'll be plenty of that later on! ;)
So glad you’re back, we’ve missed you!
“2020 is turning out to be a pretty spiffy year”. Ha! It turned out to be something, that’s for sure.
Laughed at that as well
You can use silicone pads to keep things on top of the cooktop. Get thin ones, they are flexible, easy to clean, can go between the induction top and any pot, and grippy enough to keep things on the stove even if things get a wee bit sideways.
Welcome back, looks like a lot of fun projects ahead. You can heat bend PVC to almost any shape if you can't bend the hose as necessary. The other option is to make some fittings out of epoxy/glass over styrofoam shaped cores. Always make at least two if it's something custom. It's not the valves, piping or macerator pump that will fail on the head but the leaking AAA batteries. LOL
If you mount the drawer slides underneath the drawer you can make much wider and therefore more useable drawers.
After all the work you put into the stringers, watching you run your saws right up to them was stressful. And happy New Year, sir!
I was thinking the same thing!!!
Hi Mads, You mentioned making a fibreglass front to the sink to accommodate the bowl. If you use a domestic semi-recessed shaped sink that’s taken care of in the design. This shape seems perfect for your situation.
What about a farmhouse style sink that juts out a little from the counter so you don’t have to make that fiberglass cover. Id think that would maximize your sink size.
Looks like a good design. Make sure to round all inside corners around the toilet well, it makes cleaning a lot easier.
Good idea! :) Thanks!
Athena is coming along nicely. Just one thought about the heads is that there may be to much room either side of the head. When at sea you need to be able to brace yourself with your arms and legs. If the space either side and in front of the head is to great you will end up sliding all over the place in a rough/choppy sea.
Great to have you back!
I think making the odd-shaped sink yourself would be worth it.
Drop-in sinks are a pain to keep clean in tight areas like that. Hair and muck gets stuck in all the little corners.
Also, its great to have a dished base to your basin. Domestic steel basins tend to be flat based, and the last bit of water hangs about on a less-than-level boat.
I like the Irwin 38 sliding or flip up sink over the head.
The sink on Uma of "Sailing Uma" channel is a custom flip out sink that is concealed when not in use and looks slick. They are both young architects and have nice design details.
Hi Mads. Using a ceramic white sink you don’t need to make a flange underneath to come up and meet the lip/edge of the sink , just set it 2/3rds into the vanity unit.
Please be aware that when you put your face in the sink you also put your bottom in the shower. This looks like a good layout. I will second ilCigno's comment about radiusing inside and outside corners. I would suggest larger than the stir stick radius throughout the whole bathroom. Very good idea on the fuel polisher. Manually tripping a polish near the end of a long passage can prevent motor trouble in a channel or while docking. I love your enthusiasm for the projects this year. :)
Great to have you back. Sorry Ava his youtube fans need him too. Athena is getting there little by little. Watch out 2020.
Puts new meaning to the term "Poogleing". Flushing the loo with your phone, that's a new one. Funny stuff. Rossco
I switched from a tank hot water heater to an on demand propane hot water heater. I highly highly recommend that you look in to this. Additionally, for cabin heat I used an Espar diesel heater that provides dry heat. Allowing combustion in your cabin fills every surface internal to your cabin with water and leads to mold.
Looking forward to seeing your gimbaled oven box. We're also in the process of converting to an all electric galley on SV Ramble On and I need to construct a gimbaled enclosure as well. I'm also liking the new Carhart coveralls. Your Bjornkladder-style work pants have served you well over the years. Keep up the good work.
Great to have you back Mads..!!!
Athena dwarfs the buggy. The private water closet is confining at best. I'll take a daisy chain wherever possible. A loo of that stature could sit proudly on a bow sprit. Plumbers here finish the install with copper plated 1 cent USA Penney; proudly. I suggest using the bluetooth application everytime the coast guard boards your vessel. No one else uses two stoves...or do they? Looking forward to the next episode, I'm already plumbing hot water ballast tank ideas. Keep it light ' brah!
Hey Mads, You should consider separating your Black Water from your Grey Water. 2 separate holding tanks. There are grey water filter systems out there. In North America, many areas do not allow you to discharge grey water within a certain distance of land. If you filter it, you can discharge. I am sure Ava would appreciate the opportunity to have showers on board when moored or docked. I plan to do this on my boat! Imagine a nice hot 10 minute shower anytime! Provided you have a water maker or shore water.....
So many awesome updates. I cant wait to see all the projects.
Good to have you back! Why not try a semi-recessed basin to save bending the ply - although you are good at it!
Looking very good!
I will note that on my boat, the head sat on a pedestal that was probably about 25 mm plywood with several layers of fiberglass on both sides. The pedestal was also very small, barely large enough for the base of the head. (it was on the centerline of the boat up in the bow, which meant it was triangular shaped). I was surprised at how heavy duty it was.
Looks like it is already shaping up to be a great year! Thx!
Man you are incredible. The effort tha you put into the reconstruction of Athina and the amazing effort to film every little step of all this is simply out of this world. Congrats!
Mad, great video, nice to have you back on after your short vacation.
The head looks pretty good Mads, there is one more thing you probably want to think about before you start building though. As it sits it will be great while sitting at anchor or thee dock however when you are under sail you probably want to be thinking about a handhold/foothold or two. Can be a bit unpleasant if you can't stay on your throne.
CAD! I love it!!! Well done and welcome back.
Find a 'sweep 90' bronze elbow to make the turns at the back of the head. Just grind the internal opening at each end to a bevel and clamp it in place with a short length of hose, then you can clamp on the rest of the hose with no 'kinking'... There's also the option of using a bigger 'Tip-up' sink on a lower vanity. When not in use, it swivels up and locks to the bulkhead, the drain is mounted at the back. Since it's unlikely you'll be using the head and sink at the same time, you get a bigger sink without losing any 'head' room...
Only problem I have had with my dual source Rartain head is the small seal the keeps "water" out of the macerator. I now carry many seals and change every time I have the bowl off for any reason. I believe the Rartain can use 1 in or 1.5" sanitation hose. I think the 1" is better as the velocity helps prevent build up and your bends are much easier - plus it is less expensive. Have fun and play safe.
Good to have you back. Hope you enjoyed the hols.
Could you fashion a single panel for the sink unit. Melt some plastic and bend or do your fibreglass thing?
Glad to have you back in the saddle Mads! Hope you and Ava had a great Christmas and New Year.
Hope you had a nice time in LA, but for the rest of us it is nice to have you back! Given jet lag, that’s some awesome work!
Looks like someone got new overalls for Christmas! :)
I love the look of your new gimballed box , stove and cook top. In my humble opinion they score really high on the spiffiness scale! 🇨🇦
Consider using hard pipe like pvc instead of head hose. Cheaper, stronger, smoother, and way more odor blocking. I did it on my sailboat after realizing how ineffective even the best hose is at staying odor free. There are special adapters for joining solvent welded pvc to any flexible hose that might be necessary in some locations. Unless you already bought a mess of head hose!
I agree.
Totally agree!
Unquestionably totally agree!
Wayne , agrees.
How elegant a solution. Why have I never considered this? Thank You.
Glad to see you back safe and sound. Looking forward to seeing all these goodies installed. Welcome back.
The head looks good to me Mads. I had a Westerley Centaur and the only way I could sit on the toilet was to drop my trousers outside the head and go in backwards!
I still do that on my 41 footer. Unfortunately on starboard tack it isn't easy getting back out.
Always enjoy cardboard aided design. Looks good.
Ooooh, new Carhart overalls!
Use your amazing plywood bending skills to make the curved sink front - it would look so cool - good to see you back.
hi good to see you back . boat is going to look very good and work very well
I'm glad You were able to spend enough quality time with your fiance in LA. And I'm happy to see You back. It's been a while since I've seen your video last time. Welcome back and happy DIYing
Welcome back Mads! Good to see you diving right back in.
Consider having a very flexible power cable to the gimbal mounted oven. Also run it in a way to get minimum flex or twist as it swings. Maybe also connectors at each end so you could make a spare cable. So called arctic cable maybe?
Happy New Year Mads! Who would have thought that you could do fiberglass work outside in January?! -Crazy...take it while you can. I love the CAD design work you do...definitely something I will do with any boat changes I do in the future. Thank you for another fantastic video :)
Head looks great..
@Sail Life You say you won't use that app but C'MON!! That's got to be one of the best pranks ever. I also think it's only appropriate that I mention I actually unintentionally watched this episode on the bog. It's not my preferred location for a good Sail Life episode but you have to manage your time wisely every now and again.
I will be keen to find out about the make and model of your convention microwave. I have been looking for one for a while and your looks much better than the one I have been able to uncover.
I for one am looking forward to watching you progress aboard good old Athena in 2020 as I have thoroughly enjoyed all your videos so far Mads!
I like how the fiberglass glows where you filled the window hole in the shower. You should leave it like that for some indirect light in the shower.
Like the new bibs!!
Love your airplane head tech gathering! Really great.
Your back. Hope you had a great Christmas and new year.
It's nice to have you back! I hope you had fun here in LA!
Fiiiiiiiinally a new SailLife video! :) Concerning the head: I would incorporate a recessed toilet paper holder into the vanity. That way, you won't hurt yourself on that darn thing everytime you walk in and out of the toilet.
to save some space you can put a constaintina door in.
Gerard.
You made it home! Yay! So happy to "see You"!
Well, you might not use the App but you could use Bluetooth to talk to Node Red or some other Smart Home Installation and make your own custom control panel. Then you could use the Data to monitor the Water Usage, how full your Tanks are and so on.
Looking Spiffy in your new Carharts
Stewardess, that guy was pulling out a tape measure as he went into the bathroom.
When I was in Jr high my drafting instructor said if you put the sink close to the toilet if you had the flu you could use both at the same time. He would be proud of your design!
Happy 2020 Mads! Very interested in your fuel polisher and boiler projects ... also great idea stealing an airline head design.
if your misses is on the loo, how could resist not flushing it with Bluetooth 😂
LoL
😂 my first thought when he pointed to that gimmick 😂
You would only do it once!!
@@NelsonWCRS Not sure about that, it is a boat after all, and that's their only loo. 😎
I think this is its true purpose...
This is my first comment after binge-watching all 352 or so videos. I am very impressed with all your ‘spiffy’ work. Welcome back. Glad to see you’re back at it!
Cardboard Aided Design......I was dying! Good one!
Welcome, Nice to watch your videos again
Welcome back to Europe, Mads! So good to see you back again. :-)
Goes on vacation and takes a break, comes back with 4 projects ready to go. Amazing how that seems to work out.
Measuring the airplane restroom was very clever. Was that a plan or spontaneous I wonder.
Judy and I have really missed you!
YES! A new video. Finally things are back in order ;-)
What model is the new stove? I am having trouble finding one that consumes less than 3.6kW. I can only deal with 2100W.
Have you thought about a grey water system?
Would be great to save shower/sink water to flush the head!
Welcome back mads glad you all had a wonderful holidays. The layout of the bathroom look great love the idea of using the airplane bathroom as a template lol awsome never would have thought of that. Cant wait to see all of the fun things you have in store for us next , lots of exciting projects. !!
Looking spiffy in the new Carhartt overhauls! They're a little stiff when new but they'll end up super comfortable.
I think your head layout is a great compromise. Production builders should take note! Happy new year.
Spiffy to have you back!
CAD lol. Mads, take a look at child proof stuff, you can get a guard for a standard cooktop/hob but I am not sure how sturdy it would be on rough seas. New year, now work clothes I see 👍
Good to see you back Mads, now my Sunday's are complete …
If welding the sides of the gimbaled box isn't necessary for structural support you want to consider attaching them with rare earth magnets to leave access for service and cleaning
Looking pretty dang spiffy in all that Carhartt work wear. Andy would be jealous!
Can you imagine the fun you'll have flushing the loo by remote control whilst someone is sitting on it?!?!? Your sander is having a longer holiday than you Mabs. Happy new year.
I'm glad you are getting sanitation hose before you finalize the head design. It is extremely difficult to install and replace hoses in a cramped space. I've done it.
ha i just went to my Albin Ballad today to do a mid winter green stuff clean, always feels good leaving the boat clean!
I would also check out “Vessel Sinks” they mount on top. It’s super easy to install, many different styles to choose from. Very nice video! Thank you! 👍
I think head layout is great
Thanks :D
I really like how it is turning out.
Measuring the airplane head was a great idea! I am needing to do something similar in mine, I will be tearing it out within the next couple of weeks!
I am all aboard for a "Cardboard Aided Design" t-shirt!