@@VansForever Secret Service isn't hard to get just time consuming, you can only get so much gold bullion a day, if you max your daily gold you can get it in a few weeks to a month.
Four years and one TV Series later, I decided to resume leveling my 35 toon - Lvl 110 now and I did NOT know I could save modules on a reroll by just crafting more SS. This channel rocks
Get your intelligence up by +1 intelligence buff or unyielding legendary armor mods. Also make sure your base intelligence is 15. Get some underarmor that gives you intelligence. Join casual public teams.
@@sonfable8809 I mean youre at rhe point where youre only doing main quests. Power leveling comes after that. Get as much int stat as u can get, get buffs and food for xp gain bonus. If u want to know where to power level, this guy has a video on it
@@sonfable8809 Events help greatly! most events just wait for high levels and "tag" enemies with a bullet to get their exp. Make sure to sleep for ~30 seconds and if you can buy some lunchboxes from the atom store, 4 lunchboxes are like 100% exp plus the sleeping buff is an extra 5% I believe (someone correct me if im wrong) and yeah do a bunch of quests, always do the public events and tag as many mobs. I did the alien invasion and gained 4 levels from one event
He’s throwing out these vids for the low levels or unexperienced or Came back from a long trip type players. Not everything has to be about the High level players.
Ad a new player i appreciate it because a lot of info is qbout builds and end game content. I'm just here to explore and collect plans. The events are fun though so I needed a better build than jumping around shooting things in the head from the air beam definitely getting in someone's way
the best has been secret service armor since secret service armor was added, and the best will likely continue to be secret service armor for forever until the game shuts down
I agree with solar for full health builds, I'm surprised he didn't even mention it, I've used the same overeaters solar set for as long as I can remember
Great video! I took your advice and got Heavy Combat at lvl 40 with BoS, and it made a world difference! Now I have to look up the SS quest and actually complete quest lines, lol!
Would it be possible to rank the various armours by how stealthy they are? I'm a big fan of a mix of light/sturdy combat armour and want to keep using it till endgame. It's protection isn't excellent though I hope stealth would help redeem it.
Ss is the best overall but like u said it depends what build u r running cos say I’m doin a melee build I’ll use the thorn scout armour for extra bleed damage but that’s only after the grind it took to get it lol
Great comment! That's the only thing is it is quite the grind to get, and I think it was nerfed a few months ago. I should test it further to be honest. Thanks for the comment :)
@@MrWestTek for the things that are a grind to get I don’t understand why they get nerfed like isn’t the whole point of endgame grind that the rewards are still worth it
Pretty glad they introduced the civil engineering armor. It's perfect for newer players to use before the grind up to the secret service armor. I'm already decked in 3star unyielding secret service, but now any friends starting off will get something strong, helps their weapon durability till they are swimming in repair kits, and even can get a jetpack when one of us scores the plan. It's a slick side grade for sure.
Hey Ty for the video , I crafted the heavy combat amour with brother hood mods on. (Lvl 50) but my stats are only 226 ballistic / energy 301 and no others. Did I do something wrong ?
Took a break a couple years ago. Back for a bit and working on a lvl 208. So many new things to learn and explore. Thanks so much for your channel. It’s clean, clear, and right to the point!
Your full set of BOS Heavy Combat armour gave 304/200/479/65 defenses, but mine is only 252/0/290/2. How is there such a difference? I'm new, so IDK if I am missing something...
I run full health, have a SS set with 4 Chameleon pieces and a Fixer, I can stand in front of a level 100 Super Mutant and mutant hounds and be invisible to the point that they bump into me and still dont know where i am
For me its BOS it has the most common resistance and the difference between both sets min maxed on energy assuming scaly skin mutation is 1% Secret Service and on ballistic 2% difference in BOS favour (so lets face it aside from looks they are pretty much on par calculated with gear calc a 250 ballistic 250 energy single hit, a hit like that dont exist in game) Secret service will be the majority's go to because of how easy it is to get however with that said however if you want something alittle nicer to show off your hard work go BOS
I just crafted full set of BoS Heavy Combat armor and dont have the same stats as on screen? Mine are 234 bullet 0 fire 272 energy and 3 rad. What am I missing MrWestTek?
Secret service doesn't use ballistic fibre. But instead it uses asbestos. Asbestos is less rare, not super common but common enough that it makes me smile I made that upgrade yesterday
Camp McClintock has four ammo pouches which scrap for ballistic fiber. One on the counter in the main room, on in a locker on the opposite side, one in the APC near the barracks, and one in the barracks itself.
2:45 Could someone tell me why this guy presents inflated resistances? I have BOS heavy combat armor, no mods or modifiers and I don't have 300+ damage resistance...
With my engineer set, I am down 4% total overall resistances from my secret service set. Not detectable. I stood in front of turrets to test them. And, I get the set bonuses. An armored backpack mod (switched from the ER mod I used with my service set) brings DR in line with ER, which is preferable. That is a no-brainer. 🤷
@@kyriosmalaka2312 I believe that is probably the case. I used those mods for both sets, and the civil engineer is the superior set. I suppose without one of those mods, the less DR would make SS seem marginally better. And I mean *marginally*… Just takes some inventory management.
@@Thing696 You're also ignoring the fact that Civil Engineer requires legendary cores to roll plus modules and Secret Service just requires spamming 1 module at a time. Little bonuses from backpack mods aren't worth giving up carry weight for. Mitigation trumps damage reduction six ways to Sunday in this game. The set bonus of Civil Engineer sucks. It's not like it gives you a major benefit like Union Power armor does.
Fun tip if you're trying to help newer players with their armor: give them dozens of the lowest level versions you can. It'll give them junk and mod plans. Bonus points for escorting them to treasure map spots
Heavy BOS combat chest with heavy studded leather limbs is nicely rounded until you can build SS. Trying to roll some overeaters/chameleon on my alts. The civil engineer armor is pretty nice and tradable with a jetpack. Also if you are running a chainsaw/auto-axe you can run it abit longer before it breaks.
Nice video my friend, the SS set was and still is my favorite armor set. Have Bloodied Commando, stealth, crit VATS and a full UY SS set. For me personally nothing can beat the SS gear yet it's the most balanced gear in the game.
For Sneaky Commando The best is Covert Scout Armour For Less Sneak Commando Secret Service Amour *But for the beginner BOTSMITH and Brotherhood Scout also good
SS armor been around since wastelanders, they need to come out with newer and better armors. Was hoping for new top teir armor with the atlantic city patch.
I have a full set of Secret Service unyielding and couldn't ask for a better armor. I'm running a low health stealth commando with a good Fixer and man, it's amazing. Kill almost everything without be seeing. Perfect.
Forgot to mention underarmors. They are important part of your set. Shielded Secret Service offers +4STR +4END +2PER its probably the best But for EXP grinders Sheilded Casual for +3 INT would be better, tho its way too rare Link your video on them in the pinned comments or description
just to let people know even though other players can craft the SS under armor they cannot trade it to you so don't bother asking lol. I didn't know that and wasted materials for a friend other day.
I liked a lot that solar armor or how it is (one with healing set bonus), I actually would use it over secret service one, if it had jetpack and if it could be rerolled as for some reason it cant (or at least when I had it couldnt be rerolled), since I go with full health, it was quite fine thing for me, now I may try to switch to engineer armor, I am lazy to craft it, so I wait for last piece I am missing to drop from something, then I will see if it is worth of rerolling stars on it or if I return to secret service, because slower weapon breaking sounds just so great on its own
Shadowed Botsmith is actually great for stealth builds, Second only to Covert Scout in stealth bonuses while having much better DR and RR, so if you do get caught (or stealth isn't an option) you actually have some survivability.
I still run basic scout armor for stealth builds the light weight armor kinda sells it for me, my whole idea is why do you need good armor If you don't plan on getting hit
im lvl 40 and i ran all around the mall for like an hour and still cannot find one thats named "shopping mall vendor" and sells heavy combat armor. :( FML
Secret Service armor is worth the effort. Disregard all other ones. Finished my set a long time ago, right before reaching level 70 and for several hundred levels, that hasn't left my skin and probably never will.
Even with the railway it's boring. I added unarmed perks to it and added explosive damage increase. Still kinda boring. I wish they gave damage perks to full health builds. Tired of bloody.
The clone army build that 90% of people use lol. I like shotguns, completely crippling a boss and watching it just lay on the floor helplessly as everyone unloads on it I just too funny to me
For the casual player….totally undervalued Chinese stealth armor with a good commando build….. Unless you’re into power armor, or other builds….you’re just kind of wasting bullion and caps. Free, and the stealth is amazing in almost all circumstances. And as in this video, the radiation protection is incredible. Ballistic and melee protection is fine. You may have to stim yourself a bit more…..but this suit combined with an excavator power armor. It’s just an incredibly cheap endgame combination.. No need for bloodied or a bunch of wild crazy combinations that can only be achieved after incredible grinding. And this is not a knock on the people who do that. Hats off to them, but I love the game yet have an outside life that prevents long hours of play. What I am recommending this for is a cheap solid endgame set for the “casual” guy. I recommend wearing a marine tactical helmet instead of Chinese helmet. It has better protection and frankly just looks better than that red pink monstrosity. You still get the bonus for a full set as the helmet doesn’t count. A cheap atom buy of V63 armor paint makes the excavator armor look first class. I can accomplish anything in the game. Not as quickly and I definitely burn a hell of a lot more ammo. But I’m not spending 10 hours grindingsomething either..
I NEEDED this video. I was just saying recently that I needed to learn more. I've been using Chinese Stealth Armor for years... Was wondering if there was something better that I could wear apparel with. Thank you so much! I have to say, I LOVE the Chinese Stealth armor .. especially for my love of playing in stealth mode.
I think my only issue with the new armour is that if you go max out the damage resistance and go ultra light for mod- it has very small condition bar and it kind of feels brittle cause I have to repair it constantly
@@Poke-ladd Isn't there a perk card that makes it so you can...not sure what to call it..."over repair/fix" armor? Maybe I'm getting it confused with just making armor but I thought I saw/read somewhere that you could make it so armor your repaired had more durability then it's cap. If I'm wrong I apologize..but if I'm right and you have the card/perk points definitely equip it when you repair. Should help you out with that "brittle" armor issue. :D
@@MTGPlayer10 Yeah, i believe it's called "Fix it Good", allows you to repair armor and power armor to 200% condition at level 3. Edit: "Fix it Good" allows you to repair armor and power armor to 130%/160%/200% condition at level 1/2/3 respectively. There is also a perk that works with how you described which is "armorer" which by description "Your crafted armor has improved durability" at level 3, level 2 reduces crafting costs, and level 1 lets you craft advanced armor mods. Another useful perk card is the "Power Patcher" card, this one makes your power armor break 20%/40%/60% slower and is cheaper to repair at level 1/2/3 respectively. I know this is about armor but I thought I'd throw in 1 more perk card called "Weapon Artisan", this works the same way as fix it good however it's for weapons, so for this one you can repair weapons to 130%/160%/200% at level 1/2/3 respectively. All of these perk cards are under intelligence and at max level each one will require 3 points of intelligence to equip. Hope this helps!
Always good info, i hasn't played in a long time and everything i didn't Forget they changed. Your videos are helping to fill in the gaps, thanks for the great content!
I had Chinese Stealth Armor on and fought the Grafton monster in Heart of the Swamp event. That son of a b*tch one-hit me every time I got too close. 😂 No way was I able to avoid his detection. Invisibility nor the "vanishing" perk card when sneaking helped here. Tried to pop out of his line of sight but nope, he still kept an eye on me. How's the Secret Service armor when fighting such 3-star bosses?
Neither of them at all. Best armor is the one that you managed to get full -20% weight bonus to one of the items with at least double of +5% ap recharge bonuses. Resistance doesn't matter at all. If it's 100 or 50 resistance - it will not affect incoming damage in any significant way. Any armor will suffice as long as it have nice bonuses and the only reason why you need secret service chest armor or BOS chest armor is to put jetpack on it. And if you don't need jet pack - then you don't need them at all. In the end the only armor that you need from secret service set - is the chest armor only. Everything else doesn't matter unless you are using legendary perk for poison resist. The only resistance stat that does matter is the mod that gives you 7% protection when you are well fed. Everything else once again doesn't matter at all. Resistance numbers on the armor and + 40 or so resistance in perks are actually a noob trap and are only viable in one and only one activity in entire game - PvP. And even if i would need to choose - that would be set of engineer because at least it has amazing bonus for making your guns more sturdy. And as i said - numbers doesn't matter in the slightest. If you need protection - you need perks that gives you % DR from all sources of damage. Anything that gives numbers - is useless outside of PvP.
I need help . I started playing Fallout 76 and im loving it but im struggling with armour . Im level 37 and i cant craft any other armour except leather .. so does that mean i need to find or buy plans ?? I've found a few plans but it doesnt show up in the armour workshop so are those mods ??
single best OVERALL armor video i saw since i looked up armor guides, because i just wanted to know about armors generally :) thank u very much! now i know my lvl 70 Gf needs robot for now, so we can farm secret service or covert :D
Early TL;DR for this reply - Civil Engineer is great, Secret Service is best, don't discount Heavy Metal for a beginner build if you aren't using energy weapons or have Class Freak. Personally, I'd say Civil Engineer is best-in-slot for auto melee builds because having your weapons break slower is great quality of life, and it gets over your 300/300 threshold anyways for both resistances. It also has access to everyone's favorite mod, the jetpack, so you don't miss out on that, either. It's also really easy to get the full set, and arguably easier to get all the upgrades you'll need for it as well, since iirc there's no actual limit on how many stamps you can get in a day, and expedition runs can be fairly quick with the right builds. That said, I *do* agree that Secret Service armor is the best set in general due to having the best mixed resistances and still having access to a lot of good mods to make it even better. It can just take a bit to get everything you need due to the daily bullion limit. Brotherhood Recon, on the other hand, has a bit more ballistic resistance, but its energy resistance is lacking and IMO puts it beneath the Civil Engineer armor, and is also much harder to get. I will also add, if we take mutations into account and the common damage types, this is more personal theory than anything that's actually been put into practice, but I feel that heavy metal armor with the Grounded mutation could actually serve beginners better than heavy leather since it patches up its lower energy resistance, and with the Scaly Skin mutation, leads to a solid amount of mixed resistances. I will acknowledge though that it can be detrimental if you're trying to use an energy weapon without Class Freak.
Dear Mr. WestTek I have a question on Unyielding SS armor: Do all the pieces stack Special stats? as in if you have a full set of unyielding, you would add +15 to all special stats? You should do a whole video explaining what buffs stack with what and what buffs don't. This is an aspect of the game I'm really puzzled about.
SS in theory , but if you reroll a half useful armor like UNY but no WWR, what u gon do then? Keep rerolling or stash? If you get another UNY no wwr but diff 3 star (like one fdc wr, one sentinel), then what do you do..😂 thats how i ended with a ton of ss pieces in my stash.. and if they were civil engineer i could sold them for some caps..
Endgame is secret service for THICC and Covert Scout for SNEAK. Early game it doesssnt really matter light armour for stealth and heavy for a tank with a civil engineer jetpack. I’m to tired to say anything more for early game if I care I’ll come back and edit it in
Would it be possible for you to make a video ranking the various armours by how stealthy they are? I'm a big fan of the look of a mix of light/sturdy combat armour and hope to keep using it for the endgame. It's protection definitely is outmoded by other options, so I'm hoping it's stealth at least somewhat redeems it 😅.
Ii don't know if it is the best but it sure is fun. My Thorn body armor. I can run around one hit bare hand punching just about everything. I got rid of most of my SS armor after switching back. The SS armor just felt dead. The Thorn armor is great passive protection and drops enemies dead.
I've only just upgraded to Heavy Combat Armour with Shadowed and Deep Pockets. A very aggressive sniper build gameplay style. Toon is level 74. I seldom "need" armour because everything is dead before they know that I am there, but sometimes things do go pear shaped. Bit of mitigation helps kite in those scenarios.
OMG I've been rolling legendary modules x3 on my chest piece for unyielding for over a week now with no luck... I should have crafted chest pieces instead. I already put jetpack on it so I'll have to keep rolling it x3...
I have a full set of Unyielding Civil armour and in my 300 hours so far I’ve found it to be the best I’ve used. Not saying it’s the best in the game I’m not sure yet but in my experience it’s certainly done a better job then anything else I’ve used and it was very easy to obtain I bought most of the set from trading, I have got 399 damage resistance on it and the other stats are also very good. I also get 525 carry weight overall with the high capacity back pack as well as the carry weight from armour which is what was most appealing to me. I would recommend anyone to go for it if you have not done.
level 100+ and never had a secret service armor(Im using engineering) yet because I never finished main quest xD Instead I'm doing a lot of side quest because it was interesting. Can't wait to get the stealth armor ;>
I can never seem to make enough caps to be buying 1k+ plans. It drives me crazy because I went to get the heavy combat armor but it’s 3,300 caps for the whole set. I rarely get to 2k caps.
Heavy combat with bos mods to start for new players. Botsmith always getting neglected but its really solid better then combat and covert, its easier then daily opp armor to collect. Dont neglect botsmith it will carry you mid game untill you get to a point to purchase the recon or secret service, Ad victorium.
Maybe time for an updated version of this video in light of the new legendary crafting system. Meaning, it's so much easier to get full unyielding sets, etc.
Four years and one TV Series later, I decided to resume leveling my 35 toon - Lvl 110 now and I did NOT know I could save modules on a reroll by just crafting more SS. This channel rocks
Got a full set of brotherhood recon with overeaters and I love it, perfect for my junkies tank build, damn near impossible to kill. Reckon it looks better than secret service too.
I am jelly cuz I want to get unyielding brotherhood the only reason he said secret service is better is because is easier to get but fallout 76 is all about that grind
I'm using heavy combat armor from your beginner commando building towards your end game commando build. What armour would you recommend between heavy combat and secret service armour?
Makin it easy for ya.. it’s secret service lol.
It takes a long time to get but yes indeed
It is, but the new muni armor looks very tempting with the weapon durability.
Ok... So what is the best armor that the average casual player can get? Imma guess heavy combat armor
@@VansForever depends on your level tbh
@@VansForever Secret Service isn't hard to get just time consuming, you can only get so much gold bullion a day, if you max your daily gold you can get it in a few weeks to a month.
Secret Service rules but the Civil Engi armour is great too because you can trade it amongst your different characters
its also cheaper and easier to farm a jetpack w stamps
i got my armor by going to the rose room and doing those quests, then picking up legendary arms and an autostim chest.
Four years and one TV Series later, I decided to resume leveling my 35 toon - Lvl 110 now and I did NOT know I could save modules on a reroll by just crafting more SS. This channel rocks
Very happy to help 👌. Thanks for the kind words 👍
Get your intelligence up by +1 intelligence buff or unyielding legendary armor mods. Also make sure your base intelligence is 15. Get some underarmor that gives you intelligence. Join casual public teams.
@@sonfable8809 I mean youre at rhe point where youre only doing main quests. Power leveling comes after that. Get as much int stat as u can get, get buffs and food for xp gain bonus. If u want to know where to power level, this guy has a video on it
@@sonfable8809 do events
In lvl 138 bc of just grinding events
Its a great xp boost
@@sonfable8809 Events help greatly! most events just wait for high levels and "tag" enemies with a bullet to get their exp. Make sure to sleep for ~30 seconds and if you can buy some lunchboxes from the atom store, 4 lunchboxes are like 100% exp plus the sleeping buff is an extra 5% I believe (someone correct me if im wrong) and yeah do a bunch of quests, always do the public events and tag as many mobs. I did the alien invasion and gained 4 levels from one event
I'm glad your not promoting third party real money transactions like that other fallout 76 youtuber. Good on you man
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There is quite a few doing it sadly.
@@Collas42 sadly. I just unfriended two people buying caps. I don't really understand why not just play the game?
Don’t get me started on the looking for group posts on XBOX….
@@jimmythehand7409you unfriended two people because they spent their own disposable income on something they wanted?
He’s throwing out these vids for the low levels or unexperienced or Came back from a long trip type players. Not everything has to be about the High level players.
Ad a new player i appreciate it because a lot of info is qbout builds and end game content. I'm just here to explore and collect plans. The events are fun though so I needed a better build than jumping around shooting things in the head from the air beam definitely getting in someone's way
I literally yesterday was looking for best armors, and couldn't find anything up to date. You're the GOAT
the best has been secret service armor since secret service armor was added, and the best will likely continue to be secret service armor for forever until the game shuts down
Your 76 videos are superior to most in every way. So informative and easy to understand. Thank you :)
Omg thanks so much!!
if you are a full health build, overeater solar armor is pretty nice.
I agree with solar for full health builds, I'm surprised he didn't even mention it, I've used the same overeaters solar set for as long as I can remember
Great video! I took your advice and got Heavy Combat at lvl 40 with BoS, and it made a world difference! Now I have to look up the SS quest and actually complete quest lines, lol!
Would it be possible to rank the various armours by how stealthy they are? I'm a big fan of a mix of light/sturdy combat armour and want to keep using it till endgame.
It's protection isn't excellent though I hope stealth would help redeem it.
Most definitely secret service!👍🏼👍🏼, thanks for the info west!!
You bet!
Whats the second best for a vanguard set
This is definitely the video I've been looking for. Didn't find anyone talking about the other ones comparing to each other.
Ss is the best overall but like u said it depends what build u r running cos say I’m doin a melee build I’ll use the thorn scout armour for extra bleed damage but that’s only after the grind it took to get it lol
Great comment! That's the only thing is it is quite the grind to get, and I think it was nerfed a few months ago. I should test it further to be honest. Thanks for the comment :)
@@MrWestTek for the things that are a grind to get I don’t understand why they get nerfed like isn’t the whole point of endgame grind that the rewards are still worth it
Pretty glad they introduced the civil engineering armor. It's perfect for newer players to use before the grind up to the secret service armor. I'm already decked in 3star unyielding secret service, but now any friends starting off will get something strong, helps their weapon durability till they are swimming in repair kits, and even can get a jetpack when one of us scores the plan. It's a slick side grade for sure.
Very much agreed. It's a nice option for beginners.
Westek is definitely the best fallout 76 youtuber
Wish we could scrap them for the paint job so people can wear op armor but flex those cues I dig the metal armor
Hey Ty for the video
, I crafted the heavy combat amour with brother hood mods on. (Lvl 50) but my stats are only 226 ballistic / energy 301 and no others. Did I do something wrong ?
Took a break a couple years ago. Back for a bit and working on a lvl 208.
So many new things to learn and explore.
Thanks so much for your channel. It’s clean, clear, and right to the point!
i crafted a full set off SS but my stats aren't like yours. mine are 342, 312, 322. is it because i might not have the best rolls on the sets?
no its cause he probably has perk cards and mutations buffing them
Your full set of BOS Heavy Combat armour gave 304/200/479/65 defenses, but mine is only 252/0/290/2. How is there such a difference? I'm new, so IDK if I am missing something...
Close yur eyes and tell me this ain’t deadpool 😂
I run full health, have a SS set with 4 Chameleon pieces and a Fixer, I can stand in front of a level 100 Super Mutant and mutant hounds and be invisible to the point that they bump into me and still dont know where i am
Does anyone know if there is a black secret service under armor skin?
There isn’t
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Dude! Awesome! I was watching your live and you mentioned this video but it wasn't up yet. Thanks for posting.
For me its BOS it has the most common resistance and the difference between both sets min maxed on energy assuming scaly skin mutation is 1% Secret Service and on ballistic 2% difference in BOS favour (so lets face it aside from looks they are pretty much on par calculated with gear calc a 250 ballistic 250 energy single hit, a hit like that dont exist in game)
Secret service will be the majority's go to because of how easy it is to get however with that said however if you want something alittle nicer to show off your hard work go BOS
Cost to roll God roll sets is the main factor why ss is preferable imo.
1 module vs multiple modules and cores
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finally! Holy molly ima go get the Leather armor cause i have no caps right now thank you!
Chinese stealth suit all day!
I just crafted full set of BoS Heavy Combat armor and dont have the same stats as on screen? Mine are 234 bullet 0 fire 272 energy and 3 rad. What am I missing MrWestTek?
I need an armor that do not need Ballistic Fiber to be repair lol
Fr the most boring part of the game, making runs for the rarest crafting material just to repair 5 pieces of armor
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Secret service doesn't use ballistic fibre. But instead it uses asbestos. Asbestos is less rare, not super common but common enough that it makes me smile I made that upgrade yesterday
@@mpb6491 generally you can buy bulk materials like those at Whitesprings Mall
Camp McClintock has four ammo pouches which scrap for ballistic fiber. One on the counter in the main room, on in a locker on the opposite side, one in the APC near the barracks, and one in the barracks itself.
2:45 Could someone tell me why this guy presents inflated resistances?
I have BOS heavy combat armor, no mods or modifiers and I don't have 300+ damage resistance...
With my engineer set, I am down 4% total overall resistances from my secret service set. Not detectable. I stood in front of turrets to test them. And, I get the set bonuses. An armored backpack mod (switched from the ER mod I used with my service set) brings DR in line with ER, which is preferable.
That is a no-brainer. 🤷
Numerically better but the cost of the grind give many pause.
Most people don't use either of those mods. They mostly use the mods that reduce the weight of chems or food.
@@kyriosmalaka2312 I believe that is probably the case. I used those mods for both sets, and the civil engineer is the superior set. I suppose without one of those mods, the less DR would make SS seem marginally better. And I mean *marginally*…
Just takes some inventory management.
@@AtomicCitizen Well, what I’m saying is that Engineer armor is effectively identical, but has set bonuses. So, better, IMO. 🤷
@@Thing696 You're also ignoring the fact that Civil Engineer requires legendary cores to roll plus modules and Secret Service just requires spamming 1 module at a time. Little bonuses from backpack mods aren't worth giving up carry weight for. Mitigation trumps damage reduction six ways to Sunday in this game. The set bonus of Civil Engineer sucks. It's not like it gives you a major benefit like Union Power armor does.
This will help me alot thanks. Could you do a vid on how to make a Jetpack and the process on gathering the items required. Thx again
I like CSA for its asthetics, but hate thats its daily ops only or wait for minerva
BoS Recon grind is even worse
@@crayonchomper1180 arent they both just rare rewards from ops? Does minerva not sell the plans?
Fun tip if you're trying to help newer players with their armor: give them dozens of the lowest level versions you can. It'll give them junk and mod plans. Bonus points for escorting them to treasure map spots
It'll help them unlock the mods as well ;)
Heavy BOS combat chest with heavy studded leather limbs is nicely rounded until you can build SS. Trying to roll some overeaters/chameleon on my alts.
The civil engineer armor is pretty nice and tradable with a jetpack. Also if you are running a chainsaw/auto-axe you can run it abit longer before it breaks.
@MrWestTek Hey, how you get 354 physical def on BoS Heavy Armor set? I got it and have only 226 physical def. Regards!
he probably has perk cards and mutations buffing them
Can jet packs be put on civil engineer, bos and secret service armour?
@@hipsterdoofus1332 A jet pack can be put on all of them.
Nice video my friend, the SS set was and still is my favorite armor set. Have Bloodied Commando, stealth, crit VATS and a full UY SS set. For me personally nothing can beat the SS gear yet it's the most balanced gear in the game.
For Sneaky Commando
The best is Covert Scout Armour
For Less Sneak Commando
Secret Service Amour
*But for the beginner
BOTSMITH and Brotherhood Scout also good
I made the full lv50 combat armor BOS set but only got 281 DR and 321 ER, what im doing wrong?
SS armor been around since wastelanders, they need to come out with newer and better armors. Was hoping for new top teir armor with the atlantic city patch.
Just rebalance BOS Recon Armor to up it's base DT maybe give it a set bonus against abominations (mutants, ghouls, scorched and cryptids)
I have a full set of Secret Service unyielding and couldn't ask for a better armor. I'm running a low health stealth commando with a good Fixer and man, it's amazing. Kill almost everything without be seeing. Perfect.
yeah pretty much everyone does that lol
Wow u have such a unique playstyle, u use the communist stealth armor too?
@@rispy4875 I have it but when I put it, I loose all my buffs and carry capacity. I'll try to use in combat to see if it is effective
Forgot to mention underarmors. They are important part of your set.
Shielded Secret Service offers +4STR +4END +2PER its probably the best
But for EXP grinders Sheilded Casual for +3 INT would be better, tho its way too rare
Link your video on them in the pinned comments or description
just to let people know even though other players can craft the SS under armor they cannot trade it to you so don't bother asking lol. I didn't know that and wasted materials for a friend other day.
Makes me said the engineer armor is not that good
May 27th-29th Minerva will have discounted secret service plans, for any newer players looking to plan ahead and save some gold.
I ran with botsmith the most in my early days and bos heavy combat armor
I liked a lot that solar armor or how it is (one with healing set bonus), I actually would use it over secret service one, if it had jetpack and if it could be rerolled as for some reason it cant (or at least when I had it couldnt be rerolled), since I go with full health, it was quite fine thing for me, now I may try to switch to engineer armor, I am lazy to craft it, so I wait for last piece I am missing to drop from something, then I will see if it is worth of rerolling stars on it or if I return to secret service, because slower weapon breaking sounds just so great on its own
Lvl 1175 here and I did not know about not rerolling ss, thanks for the tip
Glad I could help!
what's reolling ss? can you give me the time stamp
@3rdeyejukez493 SS is secret service so when I say re rolling I mean taking a weapon or armor to bench to change the legendary effects
So the tldr is secret service unless you are doing a stealth build. Then it's Chinese stealth, and use heavy leather till you get the plans.
A metal chest, 1 metal limb, and 3 leather limbs will put you over 260 resistance for both physical and energy dmg
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LOL I feel blessed as it is, don't encourage them 🤣
Shadowed Botsmith is actually great for stealth builds, Second only to Covert Scout in stealth bonuses while having much better DR and RR, so if you do get caught (or stealth isn't an option) you actually have some survivability.
I still run basic scout armor for stealth builds the light weight armor kinda sells it for me, my whole idea is why do you need good armor If you don't plan on getting hit
im lvl 40 and i ran all around the mall for like an hour and still cannot find one thats named "shopping mall vendor" and sells heavy combat armor. :( FML
"responders vendor" dint have it
I’m kinda new to the game, is it okay to use SS armour in a sneak commando build
What about the marine armor? It used to be my favourite in fallout 4 i was thinking of running it in 76 as well, iw it no good? :
It's not a common armor and it's still a mid to high tier armor. Easily overlooked
I’m really not understanding how your BoS resistance is so high. At level 40 I get 188 and zero rad resistance and zero fire. Idk what I’m missing
You can always ask one of us high levels if we could craft you some armor an mod it. Like I always try help low lvls. Most others will 2 if you ask.
I love the look of the sturdy combat armor, but the helmet eludes me!!! I hit like 9 helmet spawns and got bandanas!
Why when I craft all the parts to the civil engineer and put it on my damage resistances are nowhere close to the ones you show?
Same except i built bos armor the stats is 200+ compared to his 300+ idk how he get such high stats
Great video! And dam, I knew you were a high level, but almost 30k screw has to be some sort of a crazy achievement, lol.
Secret Service armor is worth the effort. Disregard all other ones. Finished my set a long time ago, right before reaching level 70 and for several hundred levels, that hasn't left my skin and probably never will.
A set of overeater's solar armor isn't to bad you just don't anything for radiation unless you use a legendary perk card.
Thanks for covering all the different types of armor and what they're best for, great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
Unyeilding SS commando bloody build, u are the destroyer.
100%
But can be a little bit of a boring build. Until u bust out that QE25 Railway.
Even with the railway it's boring. I added unarmed perks to it and added explosive damage increase. Still kinda boring. I wish they gave damage perks to full health builds. Tired of bloody.
@@Hyst44 yeah I carry a no star auto pipe gun and no star bow w/ explosive arrows for the normal enemy encounters. There fun.
The clone army build that 90% of people use lol. I like shotguns, completely crippling a boss and watching it just lay on the floor helplessly as everyone unloads on it I just too funny to me
Chinese Stealth armour is pretty good and you can go invisible at the touch of a button
For the casual player….totally undervalued Chinese stealth armor with a good commando build….. Unless you’re into power armor, or other builds….you’re just kind of wasting bullion and caps.
Free, and the stealth is amazing in almost all circumstances. And as in this video, the radiation protection is incredible. Ballistic and melee protection is fine. You may have to stim yourself a bit more…..but this suit combined with an excavator power armor. It’s just an incredibly cheap endgame combination..
No need for bloodied or a bunch of wild crazy combinations that can only be achieved after incredible grinding.
And this is not a knock on the people who do that. Hats off to them, but I love the game yet have an outside life that prevents long hours of play. What I am recommending this for is a cheap solid endgame set for the “casual” guy.
I recommend wearing a marine tactical helmet instead of Chinese helmet. It has better protection and frankly just looks better than that red pink monstrosity. You still get the bonus for a full set as the helmet doesn’t count. A cheap atom buy of V63 armor paint makes the excavator armor look first class. I can accomplish anything in the game. Not as quickly and I definitely burn a hell of a lot more ammo. But I’m not spending 10 hours grindingsomething either..
Keep up the great work pal. I wouldn't be enjoying this game without u.
As a level 40 how do I go about starting to get this secret service armour
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I NEEDED this video. I was just saying recently that I needed to learn more. I've been using Chinese Stealth Armor for years... Was wondering if there was something better that I could wear apparel with. Thank you so much!
I have to say, I LOVE the Chinese Stealth armor .. especially for my love of playing in stealth mode.
When it comes to stealth, the Chinese Stealth is my favorite as well.
No Civil Engineer Set, i swear everyone forgets it exists.
It sucks
nobody forgetting it exists it's literally brand new ive seen a ton of player using it
He goes over it at 3:05. Did you just skip through the video?
I think my only issue with the new armour is that if you go max out the damage resistance and go ultra light for mod- it has very small condition bar and it kind of feels brittle cause I have to repair it constantly
Hmm haven't tested it that far. Just go Secret Service lol
Yeah I know SS still beats everything but it is fun to try out new armors
@@Poke-ladd Isn't there a perk card that makes it so you can...not sure what to call it..."over repair/fix" armor? Maybe I'm getting it confused with just making armor but I thought I saw/read somewhere that you could make it so armor your repaired had more durability then it's cap. If I'm wrong I apologize..but if I'm right and you have the card/perk points definitely equip it when you repair. Should help you out with that "brittle" armor issue. :D
@@MTGPlayer10 Yeah, i believe it's called "Fix it Good", allows you to repair armor and power armor to 200% condition at level 3.
Edit: "Fix it Good" allows you to repair armor and power armor to 130%/160%/200% condition at level 1/2/3 respectively.
There is also a perk that works with how you described which is "armorer" which by description "Your crafted armor has improved durability" at level 3, level 2 reduces crafting costs, and level 1 lets you craft advanced armor mods.
Another useful perk card is the "Power Patcher" card, this one makes your power armor break 20%/40%/60% slower and is cheaper to repair at level 1/2/3 respectively.
I know this is about armor but I thought I'd throw in 1 more perk card called "Weapon Artisan", this works the same way as fix it good however it's for weapons, so for this one you can repair weapons to 130%/160%/200% at level 1/2/3 respectively.
All of these perk cards are under intelligence and at max level each one will require 3 points of intelligence to equip.
Hope this helps!
Always good info, i hasn't played in a long time and everything i didn't Forget they changed. Your videos are helping to fill in the gaps, thanks for the great content!
hah i was the thousandth like! mr_stryfe says hi!
I love to watch these videos, they are so useleful and you're so kind. And i love the background music so much.
Thanks for watching!
I had Chinese Stealth Armor on and fought the Grafton monster in Heart of the Swamp event. That son of a b*tch one-hit me every time I got too close. 😂 No way was I able to avoid his detection. Invisibility nor the "vanishing" perk card when sneaking helped here. Tried to pop out of his line of sight but nope, he still kept an eye on me. How's the Secret Service armor when fighting such 3-star bosses?
Neither of them at all. Best armor is the one that you managed to get full -20% weight bonus to one of the items with at least double of +5% ap recharge bonuses. Resistance doesn't matter at all. If it's 100 or 50 resistance - it will not affect incoming damage in any significant way. Any armor will suffice as long as it have nice bonuses and the only reason why you need secret service chest armor or BOS chest armor is to put jetpack on it. And if you don't need jet pack - then you don't need them at all. In the end the only armor that you need from secret service set - is the chest armor only. Everything else doesn't matter unless you are using legendary perk for poison resist. The only resistance stat that does matter is the mod that gives you 7% protection when you are well fed. Everything else once again doesn't matter at all. Resistance numbers on the armor and + 40 or so resistance in perks are actually a noob trap and are only viable in one and only one activity in entire game - PvP. And even if i would need to choose - that would be set of engineer because at least it has amazing bonus for making your guns more sturdy. And as i said - numbers doesn't matter in the slightest. If you need protection - you need perks that gives you % DR from all sources of damage. Anything that gives numbers - is useless outside of PvP.
I need help . I started playing Fallout 76 and im loving it but im struggling with armour . Im level 37 and i cant craft any other armour except leather .. so does that mean i need to find or buy plans ?? I've found a few plans but it doesnt show up in the armour workshop so are those mods ??
Thanks for sharing this info.
My pleasure
Jet packs are only available on the secret service, brotherhood recon and civil engineer armors.
Covert scout armor still gets the stealth bonus if you’re wearing the mask and a jet pack torso from another armor type.
Ive just been using macked out heavy combat armour... Stuck on my fallout 4 no dlc ways
It's great armor though still :)
single best OVERALL armor video i saw since i looked up armor guides, because i just wanted to know about armors generally :) thank u very much! now i know my lvl 70 Gf needs robot for now, so we can farm secret service or covert :D
I prefer the look of the bos it just needs skins. I use secret service but tempted to try to get covert crafted on my sneak build
I have been really enjoying the civil engineer armor
Bro this is the best F76 channel BY FAR! Such a simplistic helpful tutorial every video! Thank you my man! 👊🏻
Early TL;DR for this reply - Civil Engineer is great, Secret Service is best, don't discount Heavy Metal for a beginner build if you aren't using energy weapons or have Class Freak.
Personally, I'd say Civil Engineer is best-in-slot for auto melee builds because having your weapons break slower is great quality of life, and it gets over your 300/300 threshold anyways for both resistances. It also has access to everyone's favorite mod, the jetpack, so you don't miss out on that, either. It's also really easy to get the full set, and arguably easier to get all the upgrades you'll need for it as well, since iirc there's no actual limit on how many stamps you can get in a day, and expedition runs can be fairly quick with the right builds. That said, I *do* agree that Secret Service armor is the best set in general due to having the best mixed resistances and still having access to a lot of good mods to make it even better. It can just take a bit to get everything you need due to the daily bullion limit. Brotherhood Recon, on the other hand, has a bit more ballistic resistance, but its energy resistance is lacking and IMO puts it beneath the Civil Engineer armor, and is also much harder to get.
I will also add, if we take mutations into account and the common damage types, this is more personal theory than anything that's actually been put into practice, but I feel that heavy metal armor with the Grounded mutation could actually serve beginners better than heavy leather since it patches up its lower energy resistance, and with the Scaly Skin mutation, leads to a solid amount of mixed resistances. I will acknowledge though that it can be detrimental if you're trying to use an energy weapon without Class Freak.
Dear Mr. WestTek I have a question on Unyielding SS armor: Do all the pieces stack Special stats? as in if you have a full set of unyielding, you would add +15 to all special stats? You should do a whole video explaining what buffs stack with what and what buffs don't. This is an aspect of the game I'm really puzzled about.
Awesome video 👏👏👏
@ lvl. 350, wearing SS armour and had NO idea about the 'modules'/stars
Thank you 👍🍻🙏🙌
SS in theory , but if you reroll a half useful armor like UNY but no WWR, what u gon do then? Keep rerolling or stash? If you get another UNY no wwr but diff 3 star (like one fdc wr, one sentinel), then what do you do..😂 thats how i ended with a ton of ss pieces in my stash.. and if they were civil engineer i could sold them for some caps..
Endgame is secret service for THICC and Covert Scout for SNEAK. Early game it doesssnt really matter light armour for stealth and heavy for a tank with a civil engineer jetpack. I’m to tired to say anything more for early game if I care I’ll come back and edit it in
Would it be possible for you to make a video ranking the various armours by how stealthy they are? I'm a big fan of the look of a mix of light/sturdy combat armour and hope to keep using it for the endgame.
It's protection definitely is outmoded by other options, so I'm hoping it's stealth at least somewhat redeems it 😅.
Ii don't know if it is the best but it sure is fun. My Thorn body armor. I can run around one hit bare hand punching just about everything. I got rid of most of my SS armor after switching back. The SS armor just felt dead. The Thorn armor is great passive protection and drops enemies dead.
I've only just upgraded to Heavy Combat Armour with Shadowed and Deep Pockets. A very aggressive sniper build gameplay style. Toon is level 74. I seldom "need" armour because everything is dead before they know that I am there, but sometimes things do go pear shaped. Bit of mitigation helps kite in those scenarios.
OMG I've been rolling legendary modules x3 on my chest piece for unyielding for over a week now with no luck... I should have crafted chest pieces instead. I already put jetpack on it so I'll have to keep rolling it x3...
Roll a few pieces of armor, if you aren't getting good rolls, change servers. Rinse repeat. I was able to finish my unyielding set this way.
Glad I could help
@@Hyst44 What does changing servers do?
@@fallis07nothing, RNG isn’t tied to servers at all, people just believe it helps with rolls with perceived value/luck. Basic human nature
I have a full set of Unyielding Civil armour and in my 300 hours so far I’ve found it to be the best I’ve used. Not saying it’s the best in the game I’m not sure yet but in my experience it’s certainly done a better job then anything else I’ve used and it was very easy to obtain I bought most of the set from trading, I have got 399 damage resistance on it and the other stats are also very good. I also get 525 carry weight overall with the high capacity back pack as well as the carry weight from armour which is what was most appealing to me. I would recommend anyone to go for it if you have not done.
level 100+ and never had a secret service armor(Im using engineering) yet because I never finished main quest xD Instead I'm doing a lot of side quest because it was interesting. Can't wait to get the stealth armor ;>
I can never seem to make enough caps to be buying 1k+ plans. It drives me crazy because I went to get the heavy combat armor but it’s 3,300 caps for the whole set. I rarely get to 2k caps.
All I want is UNY CE Armor. Which is absolutely impossible to get lol
Heavy combat with bos mods to start for new players. Botsmith always getting neglected but its really solid better then combat and covert, its easier then daily opp armor to collect. Dont neglect botsmith it will carry you mid game untill you get to a point to purchase the recon or secret service, Ad victorium.
Maybe time for an updated version of this video in light of the new legendary crafting system. Meaning, it's so much easier to get full unyielding sets, etc.
Four years and one TV Series later, I decided to resume leveling my 35 toon - Lvl 110 now and I did NOT know I could save modules on a reroll by just crafting more SS. This channel rocks
Got a full set of brotherhood recon with overeaters and I love it, perfect for my junkies tank build, damn near impossible to kill. Reckon it looks better than secret service too.
Brotherhood Recon looks the best imo
I am jelly cuz I want to get unyielding brotherhood the only reason he said secret service is better is because is easier to get but fallout 76 is all about that grind
I'm using heavy combat armor from your beginner commando building towards your end game commando build. What armour would you recommend between heavy combat and secret service armour?