Are The People of Argentina Racist? - A Locals Perspective
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Are The People of Argentina Racist?
That was the question I was constantly asked ON ALL PLATFORMS. I was warned in Mexico,Peru and Colombia that because of the color of my skin there would be a high chance I would face discrimination. I wanted to dive deeper and understand as to why this would happen to me in the farthest part of South America. This is my video response to me feeling racism in Argentina.
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What did you think of the interview? Have you felt racism abroad? Let me know in the comments 👇🏾 - see you on the next video ✈️
maybe you couldn't find because you were looking for white skin. seems to be big them with traveling black men. thumb after thumbnal all white women.
Well, when the person interviewed started with this ""hate speech" bs I already could tell she was probably one of those leftist progressive people that sees racism in everything... better find another person to interview.
I think you are lucky you didn’t face any racism. As an argentinian myself it’s true peopke are so racist they dont even realize it. Like I woukd never but many peopke say Negro de mierda as an insult that literally translates to as f***ing black or smt like that. Or peruano as someone from peru is sometimes used to say smt is not so good or the bad version, like esta bicicleta es peruana. But not everyone is that way, most of us dont do so. And we are used to sharif different cultures so yeah. It’s a beautiful country here very great for vacations
This video may help you understand what it means to be a black in ARG....ua-cam.com/video/nNSqBKzBeR0/v-deo.html
Excelent. But i should do a clarification regarding what your friend said.She lies. There is no discrimination in terms of races but to certain actions that certain groups carry out.and that are seen by the native population as inadequate.For example, the alleged natives who act violently burning houses, threatening the population with the only justification of being the primitive owners of those lands.Also, some minorities that do not abide by the laws of the country or do not fit your culture and wants to impose its own. No one is persecuted for being of a certain race but there is a negative generalization regarding those.
Wrong, Peruvians love Argentinians because they are really good in different cultural aspects. Also is true that we know that they have these feeling of “superiority”, but we take that like a picturesque characteristic rather than make us feel less than them. Peruvians love, Argentinians, and Argentinians considered Peruvians good friends because we helped them a lot during their war against England.
Right! Peru and Argentina they like each other! They are best friends lol
Argentina is a racist country
Gracias hermano! Los argentinos amamos a Perú ❤
@@elizabethm3016 el no es peruano el es ingles 😆🤣
Gracias ❤️❤️❤️😘🇦🇷
Ya estoy viendo demasiados videos de afroamericanos que quieren promover esa idea de racismo en Argentina.Yo tengo descendencia de África, España, Francia y Libanon , soy morena clara y con rulos , también tengo una hermana rubia y casi todos mis sobrinos son rubiecitos de ojos celestes o verdes , a los cuales puedo llamar negrita o negrito como una expresión de amor ❤️ igual que cualquiera me puede apodar a mí 🤪 sin que yo lo tome a mal.El que no tengamos complejos significa que pensamos que uno es suficiente tal como uno es 😀 al igual que otros .Yo vivo en Noruega y eso le he enseñado a mis hijos , que no se sientan menos que nadie y que SÍ, SE PUEDE! Seguir adelante , si se caen , a levantarse otra vez, otros pueden , Yo también! 🥳😀 , Ese es un mantra en nuestro pensamiento. Siempre positivo ❤️
Argentine and historian here. I am so pissed about this topic, specially, because the people who point us as racist are the trully racist society: the US (who are one of the few trully racist society) and the europeans (specially, the French and the Englishmen) . First of all, we need to clear out concepts: Racism is a SYSTEM of exclusion, by colour of the skin, inside the society. This is the US, a country who, literally, has few years of derogation of the segregacionist laws and very well known about in the world for their racist crimes. The RACISM is a system, a political machine who separates the people for their colour of the skin, arguing the superiority of "whites". So, talk about racism in Argentina has no sense, because we haven't a systematic racial state politics. But, more correct is talk about xenophobia, because, the state has no intention of discriminate, are the individuals who discriminate, and here is where the problem lies. The roots of this is easly traceable in the decade of 1850, where the supreme governor, Juan Manuel de Rosas was defeated by an aliance between their enemies, Brazil, Uruguay, the UK, and the local aristocrats. One of the sectors who support Rosas till the end was the Black argentines, who get huge roles during the Rosas dictatorships. The winners of the civil war watch all the Rosas supporters as inferiors: the mixed up natives, the black argentines, the gauchos, the poors etc. Was the argentinian elite during the 1880 who impulse the mass inmigration, but the inmigration wasnt only europeans: turks, jews, lebanese, armenian and even africans from Cabo verde and Senegal coming to Argentina in this period. One of the first Copa America winners was a black argentinian, Manuel Dos Santos, his mother was caboverdian and his father, a black brazilian. So ¿What happened with the Afro Argentinians? Well, they mixed up. there is a lot of miths about the dissappearence of blacks in my country: the war of independence, the civil wars, the 1872 plague of yellow fever... are just miths. Far for the impossed discourse about the "argentinian racism" the blacks was so well integrated in the society that they just mixed up with the rest of the people. Even our Tango was a black invention, and WE KNOW THIS, one of the most consumed and traditional foods in argentina, the Locro, was a black invention, the mondongo, another traditional food has black culture traces mixed up with the spanish cuisine. But, the xenophobia still impregnated in our country, but, this aren´t a trully racism, in fact, is classism: the Elites view about the blacks and natives are the common views of the high society IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE. The elites always think that they are superior, and this is not an argentinian thing, is a common thing, in every capitalist country. so, talk about the racistm in argentina, when you are an european or from the US, specially, is you are white or not black are TOO HYPOCRITE
There are different forms of racism. You should read Chinua Achebe's essay on Joseph Conrad. Sometimes racism isn't always based in systems of exclusion. Of course, systemic racism is the most dangerous type.
Me da mucha bronca que este comentario no esté fijado, porque es la muestra más acabada de lo que ocurrió. Y está histográficamente documentado, no es solo un "mito" o una "inferenceia intelectual". Mayo-Caseros definió estructuralmente ganadores y perdedores en la configuración de la Argentina "moderna" casi tan parecido a la guerra de secesión estadounidense...
decime que hizo ROSAS para que lo clasifiques como DICTADOR mas que leer el BILLIQUEN
Tu comentario es correcto , no estoy de acuerdo con lo que dijo la amiga del chico porque su comentario tiene tintes populistas muy claros ...ojo tal vez esté mal traducido , o yo lo interpreté mal ...aquí decir n*gr# , no siempre es un insulto , una mujer que dice de su hombre mi n36ro aunque sea alemán indica un amor profundo es equivalente a un piropo ...fíjense hasta donde hemos llegados con el populismo incoherente que si vos escribir la palabra ngr o te censuran el video ...la cosa raya lo demencial es un color más y para mí es discriminatorio no decir las cosas por su nombre
Si man, una bronca impresionante da. Un día ví UN BRITÁNICO criticandonos por ser racistas. Dios mío. Y para colmo hay gente que se lo traga. Pero son todos de la misma calaña.
As an African-American I lived in Buenos Aires Argentina for over 10 years and I found Argentina the less racists or bigoted country that I have lived in is there racism and bigotry in Argentina probably so but I was never denied renting an apartment or eating in a restaurant or by the police compared to the racism and bigotry that black people experience in the United States it is non existence in Argentina in my experience in Argentina.
Glad to know, theres some good experiences from African Americans living in Argentina. I feel you on the bigotry back in the states, what I've come to realize traveling the world is that racism is very different across the globe. In the states it's more systemic vs abroad its more classist but its there too in some pockets of the country. Do you still live in Argentina now?
@@Paintyourlifestyle no but I purchased a home in Mar del Plata Argentina and I plan on retiring there next I was last in Argentina in March 2020 then the coronavirus pandemic hit and I was not able to return but am starting a 4 month trip back to Argentina starting on November 30,2022. Argentina may not be for everyone but for me it checks out all the boxes for a comfortable lifestyle.
@@markrush2319 american privilegewhen you travel the minute you spoke English. people aren't stupid. they can tell the different from an american black and a continental african
@@hhh1200 and your point is what?
@@markrush2319 I will try to explain what they mean. Not gonna support the almost rude comment, though. But that my be the language barrier.
Argentina is racist, like any other place in the world, though very diferent from the US racism. But Arg is primarily, classist. So if you are a black from Haiti or an african country, you are assumed poor and do not even speak spanish. So they get ostrized. other black caribeans may have diferent experiences about racism, but since colombians, dominicans, etc, speak spanish, and are legal and have fair jobs, I think they do not suffer that much, at least from what I have heard. If you came from the US, black or white is the same for argentinians (thats where the second strongest discrimination comes in, xenophbia) they may treat you good or bad depending on how the feel about the US, but rarely it will be because of your race.
So, in conclusion, first comes classism, second comes xenophobia and third comes racism.
Hope this help you undestand a little more. And enjoy Mar del Plata!
As a Venezuelan guy i could say rhat i never felt any racism in 6 years thay i have in this country, in fact as they come from inmigrant families they understand in a different level the culture differences, they even have a celebration day for each culture!!! I love you Argentina!!
ya sos uno de nostros maestro
Gracias hermano. Y aguante Canserbero. Cómo está la cosa me parece que nosotros vamos a migrar para allá ahora.
Eres blanco, tal vez por eso
@@abelsietecuatro9249no, aca no es por color, va mas por el lado de la nacionalidad... De hecho, aca racismo no hay tanto como dicen, sino que hay mas clasismo, relacionado sobre todo con la inseguridad.
Gracias hermano x dar una opinion clara sobre esto, se agradece mucho, un abrazo
I lived in Argentina for four years. My wife is Argentinian. While, like you, I can't say that there is no racism in Argentina, I didn't see it either.
What I did see, and which is not noticeable at first glance, is classism. The underhand discrimination between rich and poor, city and country, capital and interior and so on.
El clasismo es entre todo el mundo, todo argentino de una forma u otra habría hecho en una parte de su vida un comentario así, pero no es tan fuerte como el racismo, que no es solo maltratar a alguien por otra cultura y otro color de piel, el racismo también abarcaría el segregacionismo, cosa inexistente acá.
De donde sos amigo?
you're right. In Argentina there are no big problems of cultural, religious, gender or skin color racism. The main problem is classism. Rich vs. poor regardless of origin, religion or color
yes they are racist
@@melissaferreira123 seguramente no vivis en nuestro país, no tenemos problema con el racismo generalizado, hay discriminación como en todo el mundo pero problemas raciales jamás tuvimos.
La falta de autoestima en gran parte de latinoamérica (sobre todo la gente de los pueblos) tampoco colabora con la idea. Pueden sentirse iguales a cualquier persona, pero les parece mal demostrarlo. En argentina mostrarse menos que otro está mal visto. El argentino jamás puede mostrar respeto excesivo por un jefe, alguien de un nivel económico superior o de otro nivel social. Cuando se trabaja en EEUU o Europa eso muchas veces juega a favor porque los clientes o superiores no quieren solo cabezas bajas. Y es gracioso, que si un norteamericano tiene un ego gigante no es problema, pero que lo tenga un latino si.
We have giant egos but we’re not publicly racist lol at least we do it more quietly
@@FoshoTheOne 🤣Black neighborhood, Chinatown, Italian neighborhood. Yes. A very discreet racism.
@@FoshoTheOne Visite Argentina antes de decir esa estupidez.
@@guederian567 yeah we’re never gonna get on tv talking about others. You people don’t even want to live near your own people because they are poor lol
@@guederian567 and don’t forget, the people of those neighborhoods named the neighborhoods themselves; they settled there and started their own neighborhoods ; their own tribe. Nobody calls them any names. You people do it publicly ; smh
como te explico que aquí también nos decimos "negro" o "negrito" de manera cariñosa? jaja frases como: "como andas mi negra?!" o "que haces negro?" se escuchan todo el tiempo.
Mal mi vieja, amigos, etc me dice así todo el tiempo y siempre fue con cariño
Mi abuelo salía tener la piel bien oscura , y tenía dos apodos, "negro" o "zorro", tuvo un hijo que era mi tío y su piel era blanca, pero también heredó el apodo de zorro o negro pero de cariño y eso la misma familia y amigos de mi abuelo te nombran de cariño, a mi me saben decir zorrito, y como mi abuelo tengo amigos tíos, profesores, compañeros de trabajo, a los que su apodo es negro y no es con un tinte ofensivo.. sino que es un apodo con amor de las personas más cercanas a ti..
Claro pero si decís negro en el sentido de chorro cambia la cuestión
Una cosa es el negrito de cariño y otra es decirles negro o nigg3 r o n1gg 4 jajaja el problema del racismo lo tienen ellos,es como esos países que nos critican por no tener jugadores negros en la selección..el racismo gracias a dios no es problema nuestro sino de países donde hay muchos afros. Viven perseguidos por el racismo para ellos todo el racista y nosotros ni registramos eso porque casi nunca vemos un morocho en argentina. Por eso digo que podemos tener inflación o mala economía lo que sea pero gracias a Dios nuestra sociedad no tiene esos problemas que si son jodidos sino miren a usa o Francia,el racismo es insoportable
Somos muy ambiguos en muchas cosas, somos de esos paises en los que si no creciste o viviste mucho tiempo aca muchas cosas parecen raras
Soy afrocolombiano y me gustó mucho este video, ya que me ayuda a calmar un poquito algunas inquietudes respecto a Argentina porque mi mamá viaja en una semana para Buenos Aires. Ella ha viajado por muchos paises, pero es la primera vez que viaja a otro país sudamericano por fuera de Colombia.
Por lo que he conocido de algunos argentinos, creo que el racismo no está tan marcado, ni es tan violento como si sucede por ejemplo en Estados Unidos o Europa. Con esto no estoy diciendo que no hay racismo en Argentina pero, pienso que las naciones latinoamericanas en general no venimos con la idea de supremacismo blanco y segregación que si se desarrollaron en paises europeos o de Norteamérica.
Obviamente vas a encontrar racistas en muchos paises pero creo que con Argentina pasa que a veces el lenguaje y las expresiones es muy directo y sin correción política. El argentino si te dice negro, te dice negro, si te dice boludo, te dice boludo, si te dice cagón, te dice cagón; no se guardan nada.
Muchas gracias por el video y un abrazo a todos !.
Ojalá vengas vos a Argentina. No es racista. Y si bien es cierto que muchos descendemos de italianos y españoles, también es cierto que descendemos de pueblos originarios. En mi caso soy de piel morena, porque tuve un bisabuelo de pueblo originario, pero tuve antepasados italianos,franceses y españoles y a su vez tengo descendencia italiana. Nos resulta indiferente el color de piel
EXACTOOO, no hay tanta corrección politica a la hora de expresarse y cuando insultamos buscamos lo primero que a nuestros ojos es "diferente" (negro, judio, gordo, etc), probablemente sea un defecto de los argentinos, tal vez no deberiamos ser tan directos, pero el racismo es el odio inculcado contra otro ser humano y eso no existe en este pais (salvo contra los delincuentes).
@@adrianullua1596 hice todo lo posible, pero la vieja compró todo sin avisar y cuando me enteré ya los tiquetes para el avión estaban carísimos. Lo haré en otra oportunidad.
Tranqui que tu mamá seguro la va a pasar bien. A veces puede resultar chocante nuestra forma de expresarnos y hablar porque es muy particular y variada, pero en general no suele haber un racismo marcado, ni despectivo al punto de herir a otros, y mucho menos con personas mayores a quienes se los respeta mucho. Lo que si como en todos lados siempre va a haber gente que es mala o soberbia quizás, pero como lo hay en cualquier parte del mundo y simplemente no hay que prestarles atención. Espero que tengan una buena experiencia y a caminar mucho, que hay mucho para recorrer🙌🏾🇦🇷
Por favor no te hagas eco de estas campañas yankees, hace rato que estan sembrando esa estupidez.
Hello! Very good video. Those who say that Argentina is a racist country have never been to Argentina and clearly have great ignorance. Argentina is one of the countries that best treat immigrants and tourists, regardless of religion, sex, skin color, etc.
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as an brazilian i dont think this
theres some mfs that call me and other brazilians "monkey"
💀
Converse with almost any non-european immigrant and you'll hear a different story.
@@muriloquaisquersince2016 voce fala merda cara
@@muriloquaisquersince2016 As the stupid we have as president, but of course there are stupid people anywhere, that doesnt make all or the majority racist. The ones who pay taxes here support anyone who wants to live here with free medical care and formal education and also you can get a job (even an argentinian ID, wich give you access to government support), it doesnt happen in any country arround us, right?
No se que decir, da un poco de impotencia que vengan a juzgarnos. Muchos angloparlantes, sobretodo, interpretan que somos racistas. Aqui en Argentina el racismo no es un problema de peso como lo es en los paises del norte. Eso no lo entienden. Nos trasladan sus ideosincracias y paranoias sin conocer nuestro pais. Para interpretar hay que ser objetivo y no basta un mes ni cinco años viviendo en nuestra sociedad. Si miramos a europa, Japón, Peru, Bolivia o Corea es porque aun tenemos tíos, primos... crecimos escuchando a nuestros abuelos recordar sus pueblos, su tierra. Porque ignorar nuestras raices somos esto y estamos orgullosos de serlo. En Argentina no hay negros porque siempre fueron pocos en 1810 en todo el territorio habia 800.000 habitantes entre blancos, americanos, negros y mestizos y ahora muchos no vienen (prefieren paises ricos para migrar). En el pasado recibimos más de 5.000.000 de inmigrantes de Europa y Asia que no tuvieron problemas de fundirse con los locales y otros inmigrantes de cualquier origen. Ahora, en particular, tengo una nuera guatemalteca y yernos de Colombia y Brasil.
Los famosos genes afro-argentinos no se extiguieron estan en muchos argentinos. Se fundieron tambien, se diluyeron en la población y así, ahora, esta pasando con algunos inmigrantes que estan llegando desde africa o Haíti ya consiguieron su pareja argentina que tendran hijos mestizos. ¿Que les parece?
Discriminar tambien es sentir que los del norte de la tierra se dicen y sienten a si mismos que son más evolucionados que los del sur. Vienen a decirnos quienes somos, nuestras fallas y que debemos hacer (otra vez a civilizarnos). Ellos a estos problemas raciales no los han resuelto y no lo reconocen (ven la paja en el ojo ajeno). Creo que el modelo argentino puede servirles de mucho, cuando lo conozcan de verdad, por supuesto.
@Pez exactamente.
eso de la "multiculturalidad" es JUSTAMENTE lo q alimenta el racismo. Es el peor el remedio que la enfermedad.
Argentina no es para nada un país racista y eso lo sabemos solo nosotros.El resto siempre va a creer que somos peste.Tengo vecinos bolivianos y paraguayos desde que nací hace 41 años y jamás hemos tenido un problema.Cada vez más gente de otros paises vienen a vivir a nuestro país.A ellos tendrian que preguntarles como los tratamos.
@Pez eso es un problema tambien en argentina tenemos mucha gente que te va a tratar mal por ser rubio o con plata tambien lo de separarnos solo nos haria peor
@Pez xq resaltar su nombre para responder?
¿Por qué estás herido? Es cierto que su país es racista. Así es. Duele la verdad que lo llevas en la sangre. Incluso para los asiáticos como yo, no te ves bien. Eres demasiado orgulloso. Incluso en el juego, te cuesta aceptar tu derrota.
Being born in Argentina, but having been able to see it from the outside, I can honestly say that the racial issue in Argentina is not really that much about race, but about the main cleavages that divide Argentine society: economic, social, and political. The thing is, as I will explain, these cleavages are draped in a racist language.
To understand the origin of these cleavages, one has to go back to the two myths surrounding the formation of the Argentine Republic and its identity: the myth of the gaucho (rural cowboy, a "mestizo" of Spanish, African and Amerindian blood), and the myth of the white European immigrant that arrived to help form Argentina into an early 20th century economic power. Both myths are true to a certain extent, but they are not true for everyone, as these myths will find a home in different sides of the Argentine landscape.
The economic and social cleavage fall into the rich-poor and urban-rural dynamics. Urban centers are more effective for resource allocation and generating wealth, so it's where naturally immigration tends to focus. This is true whether for European or South American immigrants. The myth of the European, urban and wealthy gentry embeded itself into the Argentine conscience at times of great social tension even when Europeans fell under the poverty line or others surged above it. "Whiteness" was associated to wealth even though lines between white and non-white people are usually dubious. The obvious exception to this rule are Amerindians, who often get the short end of the stick due to lack of public policy and recognition, and general neglect.
The last cleavage, the political one, began to form in the early 20th century and cemented itself within the political aura of peronism. Peronism is a mixed bag from a demographic point of view, but it relies in the belief that it stands for the downtrodden, often non-white working class family: as Lt. Gral. Perón himself referred to them, his "cabecitas negras" (little black heads), due to their dark hair. This perception stands in both sides of the cleavage, as Argentines will generally use the term "negro cabeza" (black head) spawned from Peron's (a general with sympathies for the Axis powers during WW2) dubiously affective term to refer to someone seen as uneducated and barbaric, generally of a darker tone of skin.
In sum, economic-social-political divide, in which ethnic faultlines don't always align themselves, has, for historical reasons and lack of a dedicated form of expression, adopted a racially charged tone. Most Argentines will not see an Afro-Argentine (0,025% of the population), African-American or Black African man in their lives (even though many of us have black blood in our veins), but will nevertheless call someone perceived as socially inferior, backwards or dangerous "black" (next to some other pejorative connotations), especially towards people of neighbouring countries (i.e. Bolivia, as your friend said).
Paradoxically, the word "negro" or "negrito" can and is often used as a term of affection, without the intent to denote or demean someone's ethnicity, and is often used regardless of any racial connotation at all. I mention this to explain that more often than not, this language is used equivocally, in the sense that its purpose has nothing to do with the literal meaning of the word.
With that being said, many Argentines are more and more aware of this and work to change it. I really hope you had a good time in our beautiful country.
Cheers! And Happy 2023!
ni en pedo leo el testamento, te doy like y ya.
@@adrianmontoya8384 xd
concuerdo 100%. Its not about how people look, but how argentines think... so we hate each oher just because of political and social reasons.
Nice use of english bro...that is why a thumb up goes for... your comment 😃😃 buen inglé tené vo' jaja
The term "cabecita negra" was not spawned from Juan Peron, it was a term invented from the high class to discriminate people from the northern part of Argentina. Yes , it was later used by Evita in a affective way , she was herself considered a "cabecita negra".
No somos racistas, eso es 🇺🇸, no nos metan en la misma bolsa
Clasista si
@@centraltupapa6751 toda Latinoamérica es clasista, lo de "pobre" no es mi exclusivo de México ni tiene solo conotacion negativa
@@carlosvg2286 como méxicano, digo que, somos rasistas, obvio no meto a todos en la misma bolsa , pero discriminamos mucho a los indigenas ;v
@@carlosvg2286no metas en todos los países Americanos.
Es más que sabido que en México el clasismo se nota hasta en sus novelas , especialmente atacando a los nativos o mestizo que tenga la piel más oscura
Que sabes de los demás nada
@@ismamvp2722 pero por ser de otra clase social
"Unfortunately I didn't feel any racism in this city"
That would be fortunate no?
Thanks for your honest opinion bro - very interesting.
Patagonia is like an alien planet, very cool, highly recommended.
Yeah it’s very fortunate, a lot of people took that statement and ran with it lol it’s in the sense I have no proof to provide to back up my topic, so it was unfortunate.
@@Paintyourlifestyle you have proof. The lack of proof is your proof. It was just not the proof you may have expecting to make the argument we are racists against black people.
@@elebea868 you are right but my statement wasn’t against black people it was the idea that the people of Argentina are racist as a whole. Instead of hearing it from me it’s better to hear from someone lives in the country who deals with this everyday and as you can see in the comments the people have spoken.
@@elebea868absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
ultimamente leo mucho "argentina es racista?" "porque no hay negros?" como si fuera que otros paises lo resolvieron, ningun pais esta excepto de eso pero veo una obsecion con argentina.
Unas de las razones de que no se ven muchos afrodescendientes en el sentido del aspecto es el mestizaje, mi bisabuela materna era afro se caso con un criollo al igual que su hija (mi abuela ) tuvo hijos con un gallego y poco a poco se fue perdiendo ese aspecto hasta llegar a mi madre que es parecida a mi abuela pero media blanca. Yo no siendo negro vivi situaciones incomodas como por ejemplo : una señora (aria) en un hospital me miro de arriba a bajo de una forma muy desagradable sin ningun miedo a que alguien le dijera algo por hacerlo, para algunos esta situacion no les parecera mucho pero cuando esto se repite y casi siempre proviene de cierta clase social da asco.
Saludos 👋
Fernando, me ha pasado tambien y no puedo decir que sea por mi color de piel... La realidad es que el Argentino arraigado en los '90 es sobrador y se cree mas que el otro en general. Tal vez no puedas constatarlo de forma directa, pero pregunta si miento cuando digo que las miradas de mujeres a otras mujeres en los baños publicos (mas usual en boliches), hablan mucho de los modismos odiosos de los argentinos, pero no pasa por un color de piel, un status social, el fisico, es simplemente el desmerecer al otro para sentirse mejor. Incluso es mas probable que a una persona bien parecida le busquen el defecto a que la elogien. Es extraño como hablo del "argentino" siendo argentina, pero en muchas cosas uno se identifica mas con lo que mamo en la cuna que con lo que ve en la calle....
@@LooP81 Eso pasa en todo el mundo, no sólo en Argentina.
@@Fandeunrubioadictoalcafe si, es verdad, pero tambien es verdad que en Argentina se acerca mas a ser la regla que a ser la excepcion.
@@LooP81 a sos mina entendible la verdad que una de las cosas que estoy seguro es que la vida de una argentina es muy diferente de un argentino y generalmente esto ya da ogual si sos de color entre minas te va pasar eso
esto lo se porque tengo relaciones de mucha confianza con un par de minas
fer esto de argentina es racista? lo saco un diario famoso de eeuu por eso el revuelo repentino igual y lo peor es que el porque tan poco afroamericano en arg tiene su explicación logica cuando africa estaba rn su peor momento arg no estaba bien parado por lo tanto en ese momento de full inmigración de afroamericanos casi nadie iria a argentina e irian a eeuu o europa
No soy argentina, pero vivo en Argentina hace casi diez años. Nunca, jamás! Me sentí discriminada. No veo que haya racismo (refiriéndome al color de piel, de hecho está más visto discriminar de esa manera, no en vano hay entidades gubernamentales que castigan estos comportamientos) si quizá regionalismos, es decir, puede ser común malos comentarios entre chilenos y argentinos por ejemplo. Pero no por color de piel ni religión.
Con respecto a la entrevista no creo q sea del todo acertada. Acá usan el termino "negro" tanto para referirse de manera cariñosa hacia alguien cercano, como tbn cómo terminó peyorativo en medio de una pelea aún sin tratarse de gente de color en si. De hecho, veo mucho más racismo en el resto de Latinoamérica que en Argentina... Sin olvidar que por lo general son los países latinos quienes señalan al argentino aún sin conocerlo, y solo por mala percepción los tildan de "superiores" cuando no es así. Conozco gente que jamás se ha cruzado con un argentino y a pesar de eso no gusta de ellos, solo porq le dijeron q son sobrados, o porque en el futbol son demasiado pasionales y esas muestras exageradas de emoción no las llegan a entender... Así que desde mi punto de vista.. acá NO existe más racismo del que existe en otros países dentro de Latinoamérica (lo digo por experiencia, ya he vivido en varios sitios)
The only negative experiences I had with Argentines were in Punta Del Este, the playground of the rich Argentines in Uruguay. When I was checking into my 5 star hotel, an Argentine man arrogantly walked past me who was waiting in line to be check in. The clerk actually checked him in first, then apologized to me with the quip, "I am sorry about that, but some of these Argentines...." The other thing was a young, Argentine woman who was staring at me disapprovingly on the airport train as if I did not belong there with all those rich, white, elite Argentines. It did not really bother me at all, but it just showed that there is a problem of elitism among the upper crust of Argentines who look down on everyone who is different than they.
Thats very interesting, I could understand that scenario, are you an Afro Argentinian ? Or are you from somewhere else
Hola! Soy argentina. No todos somos así. Lamentablemente, muchas personas que tienen dinero son unos mal educados. No solo discriminan a los demás sino a compatriotas. Lo sé, porque conozco a algunos que son así. Pero en general, el argentino es amistoso, solidario y generoso. Un abrazo. Ojalá pudieran recorrer todo nuestro país y conocer a diferentes personas, verían que no somos todos iguales. Un abrazo.
good point the elite do look down ....Im around them but being a solid 6'3 and from england i never get it ....if they do I ask them if they speak English???? then they change their attitude.
same things i think a lot wh!te latinos ( especially argentinos ) are very condescending by talking or attitude , they need to be humbled of courses not all are like this i know somes cool
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en Perú es muy raro que lo que te paso Argentina y Perú son paises que tienen una relacion de enorme respeto! jamas escuche que se use decir boliviano para insultar a alguien! racismo hay por desgracia en todo el mundo pero en Argentina si una persona discrima ya sea por etnia. religion, paises, raza queda muy mal visto!
decir boliviano como insulto en argentina es muy comun entre obreros, solemos decir bolitas tambien aunque jamas eh oido que se lo digana a los propios bolivianos.
@@adrianmontoya8384 tiene más que ver con la convivencia entre colectividades. Entiendo que en Buenos Aires y otras ciudades grandes hay lugares en que vive mucha gente de Paraguay, Bolivia, etc. Y habra costumbres de uno y otro que molesten entre sí. Pero viviendo en un pueblo pequeño con un par de bolivianos, paraguayos y chilenos te aseguro que fuera de un par de bromas, la nacionalidad es lo que menos le importa a la gente.
@@adrianmontoya8384 igualmente los bolivianos no tendrian porque ofenderse porque le digan boliviano🤷♂️, a mi si alguien me dice Argentino por querer insultar y hacerme enojar, me cagaria de risa porque lo que menos haria es enojarme. Que me digan Argentino todo lo que quieran si me llena de orgullo
@@adrianmontoya8384 Y a los paraguayos se les suele decir "paraguas" y ellos a los argentinos "curepas", que significa cuero de chancho.
Es que ellos nunca entenderan que esas bromas entre latinos son normales osea a mi por ser de colombia me dicen que vendo droga o algo sobre pablo me enojo no solo me rio y ya pues que mas se puede hacer jaja es como cuando decian que paraguay no existe o que en argentina tiene una nariz enorme jaja en fin sean felices
If you come to Argentina with the american perspective of racism then yes, this may be a racist country by those standards. But with all due respect, the world doesn't revolve around the black community. There is an extremely small Afro-Argentine community, close to marginal in terms of population ratio. So we don't have that kind of social and cultural tension, and thus slangs like "negro" are not inherently an insult. Many popular figures here have Negro or Negra as bynames. Hell, I think I can firmly attest that every Argentine has a relative or well-known nicknamed Negro or Negra.
We're a poor country, and so we do struggle with classism. Rich against the poor and all that shit. But make no mistake, we don't have a widespread racial abuse issue, much more less racial conflicts nor segregation over here. If you're looking for that you may go back and have a better look on those latinamerican countries that usually point at us and the way they treat their native, ethnical groups.
Banco un monton
La argentina no es racista, el mundo es racista y nosotros unos vivos
Argentinian here! 🙋♂
Our racism is different from other countrys like US, we are primarily classism (discrimination towards the poor). We are a 3th world country, so you can imagine that we have a lot of social tension between rich and poor and we live close together (you can check "villas miseria" spread in the capital and Buenos Aires).
With black people we dont discriminate the same way as the US do, we may call you "negro" or "negrito" in an affectionate way (i have a really nice friend that tells all the people he loves "negrito" no matter your skin). We make a lot of jokes about your skin, but is not personal, is a way to connect with you, we make jokes with asian people, if you are fat or if you have a big nose, even if you are super white. We dont do this to be mean, just to play with you, if you get mad we will not joke again. Obviusly, we dont do this always and with everyone, im just showing you some ways we interact with each other, this is only the tip of an iceberg in our culture.
The only insult we use that is really strong is "negros de mierda". I know, is pretty agressive for other countrys, we use it to insult thiefs and criminals that are poor and they dont need to be black (here you can see the classism). Other than that, the word "negro" is not used to insult, im aware that in the US that word is seen as an insult, here is a color and nothing more.
Here we have supermarkets that chinese people run and we call them "chinos" and is not racist at all, because this places ARE chinese supermkartes, so we describe them like "voy a comprar comida del chino" (translate to: im going to buy groceries from the chinese"). We do this all the time, thats why your friend tells you that we are so racist that we dont even notice it. Is not like that, is because we discriminate in a neutral way, like when you describe someone, we dont insult you calling you negro, the same way we dont insult someone that is bald, we just call them "pelado". The difference can be an insult if we use a tone of voice that is agressive, but we often add other words to appear that we are insulting (like "pelado de mierda", yeah we use the word "shit" very often 😂)
There is a beautiful commercial about this: ua-cam.com/video/YVTGZt5N02U/v-deo.html&ab_channel=PublicidadArgentina
If you understand some spanish, you can hear that a group of guys are reuniting after a long time and, when they meet, the tall guy is called "enano" (dwarf) because he WAS short and now he grew up, but they still call them "enano" in an affecionate way because they know him since he was a short guy. The same with the other guys: "rulo" = curly hair, and then he shaved his head, they still call him "rulo". Then there is a "gordo peralta" = fat (peralta is his lastname), that is skinny and so on. If you get my point, you can start to realice how our culture works, so different for other countrys.
So if you were my friend i might call you "mi negrito" (my little black guy) in an affecionate way.
I hope you understand my point, if you wanna talk or do some other video about us, i will be glad to help you! I love when people of other countrys wanna know about our rare culture 😊
Wow, Thank you so much for your in depth and educational response, you have provided me "The local's Perspective" I was looking for. Thats really interesting how the words negro is used outside of the united states. I don't get triggered by such things because I have a worldly perspective but I can see a regular person of color who isnt exposed could be easily offended because of the conditioning in the united states. Is this type of expression only used in Argentina? Again thanks so much for your feedback! Yes If people demand more of this topic from me, I will definitely be in contact with you so we could have 1 on 1 conversation about this.
I just Luvit when people call a spade, a spade and don't beat about the bush...in other words U people of Argentine are not Hypocrites... Hypocrites are the worst kind... Believe me....one knows, who one is dealing with...hah. As that wasn't too painful now, was it...? Hahaa... ☮️...
@@Paintyourlifestyle Its a pleasure! Yeah i think we only use it here, other countrys in south america are really sensitive about our manners. I think also that times are changing and a lot of young people are taking this part of our culture as something to be ashamed of and choosing not to use it (the left here is easily trigerred like in the US and are influencing this too), specially because we have a pretty substancial influence of the US and the occident in general, so i can see a decline in this behavior, so younger generations are becoming more sensitive. My generation and before (90s) still do this.
I will follow you on Instagram, i have a similar username there like i have here and you can write me there anytime 😄
Perdón que escriba en español. Sin dudas muchos argentinos confunden racismo con clasismo. Yo creo que la abogada que dijo que los argentinos son muy racistas se equivoca, además su propio discurso es contradictorio. Lo explico: dice que es racista utilizar el termino "negro" para calificar cosas malas y que eso fue incorporado del lenguaje norteamericano, entonces si es un uso del lenguaje importado, no es algo propio del pueblo argentino, sino solo un modismo idiomático. Y si a eso le agregamos el hecho de que en Argentina casi no hay población "negra", entonces como es posible que se use la palabra "negro" con un sentido racista si ni siquiera hay (casi) personas de ese color de piel. Además la palabra "negro" se usa también con un sentido afectuoso, entre amigos se dicen "negro", entre parejas que se aman se dicen "negro" como apodo.
El ojo que quiere ver discriminación, va a creer que la encuentra en todos lados.
im argentinian as well...travelled and lived in different places. and from my xp argentina is more racist than you think...turn on the tv and tell me if we as argentinians have any anchorwomen/men who isnt white...answer is no. not too long ago if you went into supermarkets in capital city they were all white. theres a lot of racism towards bolivians, paraguayans, chilean, peruvians...and well anyone who is an immigrant. and also in schools during school plays about colonial period is normal to do blackface ...which for me was insane. ive spent some years growing up in the US and when i came back here at age 15 the lv of racism that i had seen was outstanding. till this day i debate with friends and family that ive been more discriminated in my own country argentina than the us europe or other latin american countries. and sorry but those who say theres no racism in argentina or what guillermo velo says probably say that because theyre white argentinians who have never experienced being discriminated or segregated.
chupala guille beso
argentinian here, my mom calls me "negrito" and im white as an irish. recently there's been a migration of haitian, and all i've known are treated like equals, if you work together you're the same, if you talk, the same. it's not racism, but there are some racist like in any other country
Negrito es una palabra ofensiva en e.e.u.u?
@@spikeo- no tengo idea bro, soy de argentina, en la otra punta
Hasta hace dos minutos no sabían dónde queda Argentina y ahora de repente están interesados en si hay negros o no? Los más racistas son ustedes
Tampoco te pongas en víctima como un nene de 5 años llorando, acá el tipo no está preguntándose si hay negros o no sino si se sufre racismo o no al ser negro, y los yanquis nunca tendrían la premisa de que en Estados Unidos es todo perfecto, al contrario, allá son muy autocríticos hacia su país con ese tema. Por el artículo del Washington Post saltaste chillando y esto no tiene nada que ver con eso.
Exacto
good uses of the word NEGRO/A: Negrito o negrita.
Examples:
a mother asking her son: _ Negrito, can you reach me the pot?
a man or a woman talking to her boyfriend/girlfriend: _ My beautiful Negrita/o, do you know how much I love you?
A friend talking to another friend nicknamed Pepe: _Che, Negro/a, I have a problem and I need your help.
Absolutely true!!
In Cuba it is used positively, even the normal "negro" word, when referring to people.
Not in context like "situacion negra" (dark situation/bad luck) or humor negro (dark humour)
This is common in Argentine. For example, my brother I call him Negro (black) but this is common, familiar and caring. But I think this is impossible in the USA or Europe because they think I'm racist.
It would be great if you could interview an afro descendant from Argentina!! Also I would like to say we (Argentinians) use the word "black" in both ways, as an insult and friendly, it's a characteristics of us 😅 we like to use words in many ways. My father calls my little sister "my blacky" just because her skin tone is one of the darkest in our family. I know lot of people nicknamed "black" and they are not even afro descendant, maybe they are just the darkest among their group of friends. Your friend is right, we don't think too much about racism and the deep meaning of words 🤔
Casi no existen los afrodescendientes en Argentina. Encontrar aunque sea 1 es como buscar una aguja en un pajar.
@@dr.furious77 depende de donde vivas, cerca de mi casa viven un par de familias juntas. Tambien suelen vivir cerca de las estaciones de trenes
@@rociioro Un par de familias de cuantos integrantes? Argentina tiene más de 45 millones de habitantes. Sin contar los que viven en otros países. Siguen siendo un porcentaje muuuy chiquito. Así que repito, casi no hay.
pero tampoco esta mal decirle negri o negro a alguien, no tiene conotacion negativa de por si, obvio si lo vez como un yankee es muy racista pero ellos siempre usaron esa palabra de forma despectiva, depende del contexto tmb
Hay afrodecendientes, el tema es que nos mesclamos tanto entre razas los Argentinos que dificilmente vas a encontrar a alguien que haya mantenido su raza sin influencias de otras razas. Lo mas parecido que se puede encontrar son un morocho, o criollo. Debe haber alguno pero son como una aguja en un pajar
my experience as an argentinian who has lived many years in different parts of Latin America, is that the perception of argentinians is not that they are racist. It is that they have this superiority complex, but to clarify it is not that Argentinians think they are better than others because of being whiter, or even because of being argentinian. The fame Argentinians have is that they have a huge ego, they think they are great individualy, compared to anyone else argentinian or not. They are known for speaking of any subject as if they were experts even if it is the first time they talk about it (in argentina they call this type of person a "chanta") . And infact this huge ego of Argentinians that is felt in latin america, is also felt by people of the interior or Argentina in regards to porteños, as people in the interior are much more humble. In fact in latin america some interior people are told they dont seem argentinian.
wow! I never knew that, thanks for educating me on this and sharing some knowledge on this topic, equally glad your knowledge comes from a place of experience and personal insight. thanks for sharing that with me
Jose, totalmente de acuerdo con, perdón que hable en español. Creo que además se suma el hecho de que muchos hermanos latinoamericanos están acostumbrados a sentirse discriminados, entonces luego ven personas con ego o alta autoestima y se sienten discriminados de alguna manera. Pero curiosamente algun parisino quizas, o un norteamericano en general, no tienen esa percepción de un argentino, posiblemente porque ellos tambien poseen una bastante alta autoestima.
Que no son racistas??? Jajajajajaja
"It is that they have this superiority complex, but to clarify it is not that Argentinians think they are better than others because of being whiter" bro that's literally the definition of racism.
@Zay i am saying they are not racist you seem to not understand what I said
I’ve lived there and studied for several years, and to be honest we had group of friends from all backgrounds and never felt anyone was treated differently…Argentinians don’t judge by skin tone, but perhaps only what part of the country you come from.
Muchos comentarios están bien fundamentados respecto al racismo en Argentina así que me ahorra escribir un montón.
Vivo en una ciudad de 250 mil habitantes y nunca me crucé con un afrodescendiente, una vez vimos un senegalés que vendía joyas y mi mamá lo quería tocar porque decía que traía suerte, así de raro se los ve. En Argentina es más probable encontrar ciudades o pueblos donde casi todos son rubios que encontrar algún afro.
Respecto al audio que te mandaron, me parece que ella habla desde su propia experiencia y está bastante alejado de un estudio de campo como para dar una opinión pública.
Esa chica que habla no piso ni de casualidad los barrios donde viven los bolivianos.
@@titanium3z3 creo que de la persona que habla que esta presa por ser mujer y del interior es la mafiosa milagro sala
No le creo a tu mamá, quien sabe porque lo quería tocar.
@@claudiopiazza3793 Vos no le crees y a mí me dijo que lo quería tocar porque le traía suerte ¿Quien tiene argumento de más peso? Si te sirve el dato, el muchacho no se dejó tocar por más que mi madre le insistió que solo le quería tocar la mano.
Rubios? Disculpa pero eso sería demasiado raro 🤨
As an Uruguayan, i can tell u we share a very similar culture with Argentineans. The difference is that proportionally we are only 3.5 millions and we have more black people than them, around 6%, and believe me, we are also considered racist by some Latin American people. I was told several times things like: you people pretend to be European you copy their culture…I guess some people can not understand that we just do what we inherited from our ancestors. Furthermore, most of us, have never visited Europe. One more thing we use the word “negro/a, negrito/a” most of the time as a loving word. I am white, my sister called me all her life, negrita. Because of the use of that word, some people calls us racists but unless the sentence where it is used contains insults, it is not racism. To give u an idea, for us is common to say, “che negro come here, i have to talk to u.” But if the person is red hair, we will say “bo ‘colorado’ come here” if it is Russian, “ruso”… “gordo,” “flaco,”…. see the drill? And no one who belongs to the culture feels offended, because many people get that type of nicknames. Using something that distinguishes them from the rest.
Now, people from Bs As are called as u said porteños, and the have the fame of feeling kind of superior, and their strong Italian accent while speaking Spanish make them sound worse than what they really are. They talk in a way that even other white Argentinean call them “babosos”, we do to. But I don’t want to generalize, as in any country there are all kind of people, including racists. I once went to Mexico and I felt mistreated by most Mexicans i cross path with. That doesn’t mean Mexico is a racist country. But it does have racist people, like un every part of the world.
No creo que en Argentina haya racismo, su gente es muy educada y de buenos modales. Conozco el país desde la patagonia hasta Mar del plata y ni en mi país me habían tratado tan bien, no creo que sea difente en el caso de una persona afro o de piel oscura... Saludos desde la patagonia chilena, acá siempre son bien recibidos.
@@MyGrayface es que efectivamente los atributos físicos que tienes son más valorados culturalmente en la mayor parte de lugares
@@MyGrayface así es amigo pero bueno el mundo está así
@Pez almenos el racismo no llega al nivel de los gringos de hacer un culto religioso extraño dedicado a matar a gente que no les gusta porque lo dicta su fe. Pero no es excusa para que sean asi tampoco, haz que se revuelquen de envidia,total ellos mismos son los que andan de alucines.
Los argentinos son amables. La única gente de la región que me desagrada en cierta forma es la gente de Chile, mi experiencia con ellos es de racismo y muchos complejos de superioridad, en mi caso un trato despectivo basado en prejuicios sobre mi país. Soy blanco de piel y aún así fuí atacado por algunos de esos australes. Ellos son raros porque son indígenas acomplejados de si mismos racialmente, se creen muy europeos y no se han mirado en un espejo. Seguramente también debe existir gente amable, pero esa es mi experiencia. Cordial saludo.
Chile es un pueblo enfermo, viven de sueños: somos blancos, somos ricos, en Chile no hay indios y bla..bla..bla
Amigo no te pases tampoco, conocí Chilenos muy amables
para de quien estas hablando no entendi sos chileno o argentino
y en mi opinión a los unicos que nos podria caer mal casi el 70% de todos los argentinos es a los yankis
despues aca en buenos aires en algunas ciudades en especificas te encontras banda de peruanos,mexicanos y bolivianos y yo tengo pequeño pique con los mexicanos creo que porque se jactan de cosas que sin tener a eeuu al lado nunca la hubieran logrado y lo peor se jactan alzando casi su bandera
se creen argentinos perp argentina no se cuelga de una potencia (y así estamos)
Ese racismo a pelo no te lo robo amigo!!
@@LJE314 We Americans don't care what happens in your "white" third world country, your comment demonstrates racism something that an Argentine always carried in his blood due to his ignorance.
Finally someone made some sense out of this, Im Argentina and what lots of people dont know Is that theres a growing population of african inmigrants (specially from Senegal) here and, if anything, we treat them with respect and they all happen to be really cool and hard working people who ger along just fine with anyone...
Most People I hear complaining about racism in Argentina aré (yea, you guessed it) white americans, the same people that created segregation and keeps it alive ...
Thats all im trying to do, just make sense of it haha, appreciate you watching and taking the time to hear the message. Didn't really get a clear answer but manage to scratch the surface.
Those are Senegalese, not Argentine.
Argentina is not any more racist than its neighbours, it just gets held to a diferent standard because of its large european ancestry.
En argentina hay metizaje entre afro ,indigena y europeo es muy dificil ver personas de color negra hay muchos que somos un color intermedio por este mestizaje y esta mescla viene desde hace muchos años en otro paises se mantuvieron separados
Dicho esto, has visto discriminación? Es solo hacia personas de un color de piel más oscuro? Qué pasa con los extranjeros?
@@Paintyourlifestyle muy dificil que encuentres racista aqui
@@Paintyourlifestyle De que racismo hablamos ? Si es solo por piel, tengo amigos de piel color oscura bastante, yo soy mestizo como algunos de mis amigos también, la mayoria de la poblacion tampoco es tan blanca en argentina, son mestizos.
Pero si hablamos de racismo por el color de piel, no lo somos, así, quizas podría ser por las clases sociales (pobre, rico, clase media, etc) pero es verdad que se usa la palabra "negro para identificar a alguien de clase social baja" pero no, justamente por algo racial, así como muchos de mis amigos y yo, criticamos y discriminamos a los blancos o solo por ser de clase alta. ("chetos" gente de clase alta que jamás trabajo, nenes de mamá o inutiles o gente que hacen cosas ilegales para salir adelante y no es honesta).
En ese ambito si, seriamos clasistas o racistas, pero discriminacion por solo el color de piel, creó que jamás lo presencie, ni lo he escuchado.. Tambien cabe aclarar que es una opinión y un punto de vista de un ciudadano, desde una provincia, no en representación de un país entero :)
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Y si Argentina tiene un pasado oscuro, pero como cualquier país, pero siempre se trata de evolucionar y cambiar para mejor. Saludos y Gran Video.
Porque aqui no se les prohibio mesclarse como si lo hicieron en otros paises que ahora quieren darnos catedra de moral.
@@ramonvila4996 Exacto, estoy harta de que nos critiquen por el color de nuestra piel. Y fijate un estadounidense hablando de Argentina. Yo vivo en EEUU y te aseguro que la ignorancia de la mayoria que he conocido no tiene idea de nada sobre otras culturas. Una sobrina me pregunto un dia si tuve que darme inyecciones para visitar Argentina y le conteste que me las tuve que dar para vivir en los Estados Unidos. No tienen la mas palida idea de nada, creen que estamos viviendo en medio de la jungla. Y si hay arrogancia es aqui en los Estados Unidos que se creen que la tierra gira alrededor de ellos, en vez del sol.
It's true that the word "black" sometimes is used as an insult.
But something paradoxical about Argentina is that some words can be as offensive as truly affectionate. Words like "negro/a" "negrito/a" and "negri" are used as nicknames, my mom always called their friends like "negri", and a lot of famous people in Argentina are known with alias related to the word black. At least for me this word isn't related to slavery or racist discrimination.
No es así!! Tenemos otra cultura y un vocabulario muy amplio que muchos no lo entienden. No somos racistas cómo nos muestran en el mundo. Creo que norteamérica tiene mucho más racismo que cualquier otro país. En Norteamérica, puntualmente Estados Unidos hay muchísimo racismo. Cosa que en Argentina no hay. Creo que todos los países que hablan lo hacen sin conocer en realidad como somos día a día. En la vida en general. Si tenemos palabras desafortunadas pero no necesariamente por racismo. Nuestra cultura es muy difícil de comprender y nuestra jerga aún más. Hay personas de color viviendo acá en Argentina 🇦🇷. Pero no tanto como en otros países. Si es verdad que no estamos tan acostumbrados a tener gente así pero me encantaría que si pudieran venir y conocer nuestro país, nuestra gente, nuestra cultura y todo lo lindo. Tenemos cosas feas como en todos los países. Pero puedo asegurar que somos más cálidos de lo que te puedas imaginar.
"yeah, I feel a little racism in Argentina..."
-a Uncle Sam citizen
jajajaja Here never were bathroom for white or black people or buses or caffee or restaurant. Here We are all together.
La discriminación lamentablemente está en todas partes. Soy Argentina descendiente de italianos y españoles. He sido discriminada en Europa por ser sudamericana y en sudamérica por descender de Europeos. He sido discriminada o quizás debería decir que sufrí de bullyng por ser "demasiado blanca" ( así decían los que se burlaban de mí). Gente ignorante hay en todas partes lamentablemente.
Puedo relacionarme contigo, dónde has encontrado un equilibrio donde las personas han aceptado quién eres?
@@Paintyourlifestyle en donde nací, en Córdoba, Argentina - ( Espero hayas pasados buenos momentos por aquí 🙂🙂)
A mi también me pasó de ser discriminado y burlado por ser demasiado blanco, sobre todo estando de vacaciones en el norte, donde la mayoría de la gente es de piel oscura.
Dejen de decir ganzadas. Mirá si van a discriminar por ser blancos
@@miloschenfeld3301 Jaja, no, claro, lo decimos por el placer de mentir nomás, en realidad nunca nos pasó.
I think we do not have a lot of racism in terms of skin, but we do have a lot a racism in terms of economic and social status. We are mostly Latinos and Caucassians. Asians and African descendants together form a total of 5%. So we didn't grew up with that Black vs white supremacy culture you see a lot in USA and Europe.
Regarding latinoamericans disliking us, we know and we don't care. We will still have our open doors for them to get Free Medicine and Education. I think the most of the roots of their dislike is hearsay. I think most Latinoamericans that move to Argentina change their minds and end up staying, it's just fear of the unknown.
Argentine here, this will be a very long comment.
Of course that r4c1sm exists in Argentina, and usually is underestimated by most locals but also is exaggerated by many foreigners (and also by most progressive locals). And is more directed against amerindians than against blacks. This is added to xen0ph0b14, that I think that it's stronger than r4c1sm and it's directed especially against people from Bolivia, Peru and Paraguay, countries from which Argentina received a lot of immigrants (many of which were poor and many times also illegal) since a lot of decades and, in the case of the first two, have a majority of amerindians (while Paraguay also have many, although are minority). I will not say that immigrants from predominantly black countries (like Haiti, Dominican Republic or Senegal) are received with red carpet, but definitively they don't have the bad image that have Bolivians, Paraguayans or Peruvians (and today maybe also Colombians and Venezuelans, that immigrated a lot in the last 20 years). That's because they are more recent, way less and are not seen as trouble makers (they don't have the image of people that take illegally public lands for built shanty towns - in fact, it's very difficult to see black immigrants living in slums like can be seen a lot of amerindian immigrants -, that arrive for living on welfare or that are involved into c®1me and d®ugs).
It's true that the population in Argentina is mostly white (descendants not only of Europeans but also of Middle Easterners - yes, natives of Middle East belong to the same r4c14l group than natives from Europe, beyond being more tanned -), but is not so much like you can read in some places, that's a myth. There is like a 60% that is clearly white, and another 18/20% that is predominantly white but very admixtured (usually having a visible amount of amerindian ancestry, therefore they look mixed and in United States they will be considered as average Latin Americans - maybe slightly lighter in some cases -).
Having clear hair and eyes is more frequent for Argentines than other South Americans (except Uruguayans, that are more white on average), but people with dark hair and eyes is much more frequent, even among whites.
Amerindians are like 18/20% of the population, but more than half of them are very admixtured (usually having a visible amount of white ancestry). They are more as more to the north you go, and even in 2/3 northwestern provinces, they are majority. Also, as you go below on the social classes, amerindians become more. But usually there is no much conscience about their ethnic origins (even they usually don't know that their ancestors are local indigenous). Our educational system and media since 20th century didn't talk about ancestries that were not European, and from there comes the idea that almost everybody is only descendant of Europeans, when is not like that. Also from there comes those myths that says that almost all non-whites d1ed in the past because of w4rs and d1se4ses, and that those who are not white are tiny minorities that usually are not Argentines. This views are more strong in the center-east, that is the most populated region by far (cities like Buenos Aires and Rosario are located there) and also the most white on average (today and especially since late 19th century to mid-20th century, when was built much of the Argentine idiosyncrasy, that usually was based in the society of this region).
Apart from r4c1sm and xen0ph0b1a, or mixed with both, Argentines have the image of being arrogant and snobby, thinking that are smarter than the rest of Latin Americans and better in several things (sometimes in some sports, sometimes thinking that we have a more refined culture, and other times showing pride for having better infraestructure and, historically, better social conditions because Argentina for many years was the most developed country of the region - maybe only behind Uruguay -). This kind of division exist also inside the country, although today much less than in the first half of 20th century.
Another thing: it's true that the words black and also "indian" (but talking about amerindians, not people from India) sometimes are used in a pejorative way, the same (but less frequent) with Bolivian, Paraguayan and Peruvian (nationalities that can be used as insults). So, a person that is poor, rude, ignorant or a delinquent sometimes is called "black" (or, more offensively, "black of sh1t/sh1tty black") or "indian" even if is white and blond, and attitudes or things associated to those negative issues can be referred as "black/indian" things or "things of blacks/indians" (for example, "that kind of music is for blacks", referring actually to ignorant or uneducated people).
This probably comes from a time where blacks were a bigger minority (they mixed so much with whites - that immigrated massively from 1860 to 1950 - and amerindians - that later also immigrated a lot - during 18th & 19th centuries, that became almost completely "absorbed" by both groups, that were bigger). Today they are only 1% and most are very admixtured (having much white or amerindian ancestry), therefore locally they are not considered black, not even by themselves (and usually people doesn't know that they are predominantly descendants of Sub Saharan Africans).
And, the last thing, that case that said that lawyer is bull$h1t, she clearly is a wh1ner progressive. Those women were arrested because are part of a quasi terr0r1st group (R.A.M.) that is active in Chile and Argentina.
This is one of the longest comments I have ever received on this channel lol I definitely wanted to take the time to acknowledge and thank you for your time knowledge and deeper insight on this topic. I can only read so much on my own and you really broke it down not just for me but anyone outside of Argentina wanting to under more of this interesting topic. You're the 3rd person to comment on my lawyer friend, I don't know much about these social issues happening but it is alarming. I would want to covert that story in the future if opportunity presented itself.
Thank you for that comprehensive history lesson. Much appreciated!
@@ContrarianExpatriate If your language is English, you should search about Erika Denise Edwards, that is a black American historian woman that studies the history of black people in Argentina since 2002 and even wrote a book about it, but also there are articles from her and interviews to her on internet (covering this topic), and more specifically some interviews to her and talks from her on UA-cam.
@@dalerojo2.091 The pseudo-journalist that wrote the article in the Washington Post "Why doesn’t Argentina have more Black players in the World Cup?" ? Please! Read the comments in that article and then decide if she is a worthwhile author.
@@fmvm te hablo en castellano porque por tu nombre supongo que sos argentino. Hoy mismo me enteré de la existencia de ese artículo y no lo leí, pero sé del contexto general de la nota y no me hace falta leerlo porque hace varios años aparecen cada tanto algunos de la misma índole (y también videos en UA-cam), y sí, es basura progresista desinformadora. Lo que cambió es que primero decían que en Argentina no hay negros porque se los mató a todos en el pasado (el mito clásico que hasta hoy muchos repiten), pero con cierto tono acusatorio hacia los argentinos actuales (algo totalmente delirante); y con el tiempo, como se fueron divulgando un poco los estudios historiográficos que dicen que eso no fue así (respaldados incluso por historiadores yanquis que se metieron en el tema), empezaron a repetir versiones victimistas progres de asociaciones locales de negros donde exageran los números al mango y te dicen que hay entre 2 y 5 millones de afrodescendientes (lo que técnicamente es posible pero que no quiere decir que esa gente sea negra, porque hay muchos argentinos blancos o amerindios que tienen algún que otro antepasado negro sin saberlo), dando entender que serían negros, y que se los margina de muchos ámbitos como la propia selección argentina de fútbol porque se los esconde para que los extranjeros crean que los argentinos somos todos blancos... Una estupidez del tamaño del sistema solar.
Por suerte las respuestas van llegando, y aunque no son del todo acertadas (porque la gente en general estudia muy poco sobre historia y demografía porque no son temas de mucho interés), está bien que le den con un caño.
Antes éramos dos o tres loquitos que nos empapamos en estos temas respondiendo estas cosas con simples comentarios escritos en internet (como éste mismo que estoy escribiendo), pero ahora por suerte supongo que van a ser más, y espero que vaya apareciendo gente instruida en los propios medios de comunicación (aunque esta muchas veces no puede ir muy a contramano de los progres para no ser cancelada o difamada) para que se vayan aclarando las cosas.
I'm from Argentina. I've got the privilege of travel around the world a little bit.. there is racism everywhere. I've started a new job a couple of months ago, and I have 2 Venezuelans co-workers, I love them. The other day we were talking about this topic in particular, and they told me that they came here expecting racism, and everyone treats theme like a sister (they're women), they're also married with an Argentinean woman.
I have a black Dominican friend that we love like family in our group of friends. I don't know man, you always have an stupid part of the population that is racist or classist... We don't think we are white, we know we are "mestizos" (mixed people)... 🤷🏻♂️.
USA y Europa occidental siempre nos acusan de racismo, pero en esos paises el mestizaje es casi inexistente, cuando viajo a esos paises veo muchos caucásicos más blancos que nosotros, muchos negros y muy pocos mestizos.
En un país racista el mestizaje es muy bajo, es muy difícil casarse con alguien de otra raza sin sufrir consecuencias negativas.
Si Argentina fuese racista aún habría negros y muy pocos mestizos, pero para la opinión occidental seriamos más tolerantes y menos racistas por tener negros, es una conclusión y un prejuicio muy estúpido.
EEUU y Europa se cansaron de esclavizar negros durante siglos, no tienen derecho de acusar nada.
soy argentino, porteño, cosmopolita y siempre fui de vanguardia, en los 90 decidi ir ver el mundo, mi primera salida, cuando llegue a paris y fui a mcdonals me atendio un negro pero muy negro y no podia dejar de mirarlo, era como ver un extraterrestre o un personaje animado que se volvia realidad, el tipo me miraba, recuerdo el blanco de los ojos y los dientes super blancos, le pague y cuando me dio el vuelto le agarre el brazo y puse mi brazo junto al de el, si soy un estupido, lo se, pero, en mi humilde opinion, es lo que nos sucede, yo creci sin ver negros, ni de africa ni de australia ni de india, pero tampoco habia arabes con turbantes ni chinos, recuerdo que recien en el 80 llegaron los koreanos, solo se veia gente que durante miles de años fueron dueños de estas tierras, que si, son marrones, no son negros pero tampoco blancos y nuestros ancestros venidos desde europa les decian negros y despues tenemos los famosos negros de mierda que son personas que no importa su color, se denominan asi por su actitud y forma de vida, para nosotros decir negro no significa absolutamente nada, no tiene una carga racista y depende como se use puede llegar a ser algo negativo, pero en general yo a mis amigos les digo,. negros de mierda, van a venir a comer el asado, o no.. la recalcada concha de sus respectivas madres..... por ejemplo la frase anterior es una frase de amistad que nada tiene que ver con el racismo a pesar que pueda haber un negro o no entre de tus amigos!.... Recuerdo en USA el esfuerzo que hacia para no decir negro porque me habian comentado que esa como una insulto muy fuerte, creo que todos los argentinos nos pasa lo mismo y respecto a los demas paises, si es verdad, no nos quieren porque somos mas lindos y siempre que vamos les robamos las mujeres, porque si llueven se pueden esconder debajo de nuestra nariz... Cuaq!!
Me encantó tu relato, ciertamente he escuchado ese relato de varios argentinos, a diferencia tuya yo nací en una ciudad multicultural, con población indígena, negra, blanca y árabe. Desde pequeña había de todo por todas partes y él mestizaje haciendo de las suyas.
It took me over a year and a half to be accepted by a Japanese Hawaiian. I just rolled with the punches, let the prejudice go by the way side and continued to do my best as a mechanic under his direction. When I left there to go to another place of employment, there were tears in his eyes which is extremely uncommon for an old Japanese Hawaiian. The greatest show that love overcomes prejudice was when he invited me to a family only feast.
This is a great topic.
When I was in Ethiopia, I didn’t experience racism. I’m fast, the people there were excited to see me and ask questions. Can’t wait to see where you end up next.
thats cool, I never wish anyone to be discriminated or to experience racism in other countries because its different, where are you heading too next?
@@Paintyourlifestyle Japan hopefully. Won’t be for a while though.
El que dice que argentina es racista no piso argentina, no hay racismo , hay mas clasismo , pero racismo no hay por que todos somos bastante conscientes de que somos casi todos hijos de inmigrantes xd
There was an African community in Argentina brought during the age of eploration. However, Argentina opened up immigration to Europe and in the past 2 centuries the already tiny black population intermingled. That Britannica arricle may have referenced it or mised it in a later part.
I may have missed that part, there was tons of information that I couldn't shrink into 10 minutes, but I felt I got my points across with what I presented. Argentina's past is kind of Dark 👀
@@Paintyourlifestylevery dark, literally genocidal
Bruh it was a genocide
Hey man, you shouold interview an argentinian for this. Someone who can give you a better insight on the sociological and historical side of this matter.
I think thats a great idea, In future I will revisit this topic, I would love to interview an Afro - Argentinian to get a better insight on this topic
@@Paintyourlifestyle Afro-Argentinains exist, but they are such tiny minority that most Argentinians can spend their whole life w/o coming across one or even knowing about them, as several have shared on this post - they are as rare as Japanese-Hawaiians (see @3DogsTite comment) Vietnamese-Texans etc (they exist, but barely register)
As ammended by the Washington Post article, the percentage of Afro-Argentinians is supposedly 0.4% - but that would include also those with mixed blood (having 3, 4, 5 or more ethnic origins is normal in Argentina - my grand-nephews have Italian, Spanish, French and Armenian ancestors) so that even in that 0.4% they often don't look black (think Johnny Depp or other Hollywood stars who have Original Peoples, Asian, etc ancestry)
The only black people prominently visible today in Argentina are Senegalese street sellers (a common sight in BA and other big cities) and yes, sadly they are treated differently from American tourists, as several have also commented here I believe - so it would be classism, rather than racism.
Racism in Argentina exists - and very strongly too - though it's not against blacks (=they don't register) but against Bolivians and members of other neighbouring countries or provinces (mostly in NW Argentina) with majority Indigenous ancestry, simply because they are non-European white (they are "brown"). Even the word "Bolivian" (or "Bolita" in slang) has pejorative connotations (like "Paki" for Pakistanis in the UK) and the common Spanish word "negro" (="black" as in the color) is applied to the above mentioned people or Argentinians with Amerindian blood (like as mentioned most Bolivians) the common expression "negros de m.." ("f... niggers") refers to them, also called "cabecitas negras" ("little black heads") a totally despective term. On the other hand, the word "negro" is paradoxically a term of endearment, and is used with friends, or affectionaly applied to some celebrities who are any shade of brown (mixed) like for example "la negra Sosa" our foremost folklore singer, a national treasure www.clarin.com/revista-enie/escenarios/voz-irrompible-negra-sosa_0_Ofo9n1S36.html
@3DogsTite
@@deoviteresantein3670 No one in their right mind would call themselves "Afro-Argentine." Regardless of the color, it would be called "Argentine", unless it has absorbed the Anglo-Saxon culture that is purely racist and classifies everything by ethnicity.
Los estadounidenses bien podrían interesarme más en su racismo antes de venir a insultarnos con expresiones como "white latins", que hubo genocidios contra los negros (sin presentar ni un sólo dato -porque no pueden, ya que es falso-). La diferencia real entre nosotros es que tenemos el privilegio de tener cultura hispana, y son una tan rapaz, inmoral y latrocina como la anglosajona que hasta día de hoy le exige a todos que se identifiquen bajo una etnia. Viva la IndoHispanidad carajo.
I'am argentinian and I want to clarify something. There are almost no african-argentinians. There is an historical reason for this, first because Argentina had less amount of slaves than for example Brazil. Second because argentina abolish slavery 46 years before USA. Third because argentinians back then started mixing with the slaves or slaves descendant 400 years before USA, in fact the first marriege with both races was only 55 years ago. Fourth because we recieved a large income of italians and spanish immigrants. Fifth because according to a census conducted a few years ago, only one argentinian in 250 identifies as afro descendent. People in the chat shouldn't say we are racist. Education and medical care is free in Argentina, we host thousands of our neibour countries students that come here to study, even thought is not the same in their countries when an argentinian is in need in their territory. Among many other reasons.
May I ask a question when will u and your people learn not to burn Chilean and English flags?
In Argentina you will find all kind of discrimination, however I don't think there is racism, at least not at the same level than other countries.
Im argentinian and i think we are the most racist country in the world
Gente, soy Argentino y olvídense no somos racistas. Lamento si alguien tuvo una mala experiencia.
No te preocupes, estos you tuber solo hacen estos videos para ganar unos mangos y se creen que escribieron Wikipedia, solo desinforman a la gente.
@@adrianacampbell8092 gracias
Hey man! Not sure if you remember me, we were Instagram mutuals cause we both cosplayed as the Flash haha.
Nice video! I've been seeing you travel around which is cool. I have latam heritage, and also have a lot of friends from there so I am super interested in this sort of thing. One of my best friends online is from Buenos Aires and has said some similar things, he told me about the colorism and superiority complex that Argentinians have which is why he has a problem with the country. I even sent him this video and he was like "yup" hahaha.
I remember you, but thats hella cool you came from my previous community I was involved with (cosplay)first of all thanks for continued support, I know I don't make cosplay content around that nature, so grabbing your attention here is a success lol. okay you have Latam heritage, thats cool this topic involves a little bit. Thanks for sharing it with your Argentina friend, I guess I nailed the ideology a little bit lol
Okay, let me get this straight. I'm mixed race, my father is the child of polish immigrants, and my mother is the daughter of a long bloodline of native aboriginal people from the north of the country. She and my grandmother are native black. And let me tell you, I asked them if the ever felt racism in their lives because of their color, and they said no. Because here there isn't systemic racism like in the US. In the past? Yeah, sure. But nowadays nobody cares about your race. The things tourists or people that don't live here might interpret as racism is actually things that might happen to everyone and doesn't have anything to do with race. For example, people with a lot of money might have superiority complex towards anyone that isn't in the "elite". And think about this, tourists mostly go to the touristy areas, which are filled with those rich entitled people. If you go to any normal area you'll see normal (or, better word, "typical") people. Society is going towards being very inclusive too. I agree with your contact that in the past, "bolivian" was used as a derogatory word. But I haven't seen that happening since I was a child. Also, we were the first country in america and 5th in the world to legalize LGBT marriage. Is racism 100% non existant here? Well, no. But it's not like what your contact say or what tourists (especially from the US) might say. If you're black and come here, you'll be 99.999% guarantee be treated equally. That is, equally good AND bad. I also hate the superiority complex some porteños have and I'm argentinian myself, but their complex is towards anyone and there's no race distinction, but it's more like socioeconomic racism.
As a argentine and Mexican and people give me looks bc I speak English and Spanish (Mexico) and Argentina accent I get made fun of how I speak. My mom is argentine and my dad is fr Mexico i was born in Chicago but in Mexico u say fresa instead of frutia for strawberry so people in public and my family make fun of me and my mom make fun of my Mexican dad
Jajaja, me imagino el quilombo de palabras y sus diferentes significados
Eso es racismo broder debes denunciarlo 😂😂😂
we say frutisha and I believe it's the most beautiful thing
Si lo traduces, te puedo aportar algo más, el terminó negro también se usa de manera cariñosa y como un apodo a determinada persona cariñosamente, ejemplo la tía negra, o como andas negro, esto según como se expresa puede ser ofensivo o en forma cariñosa. En cuanto a los afrodescendientes. Y creo estar incluído aunque tengo rasgos totalmente europeo soy blanco de ojos verdes. La mezcla fue tal que muchos perdieron sus rasgos afro, la proporción en la primera gran oleada de inmigración europea fue de varios millones contra unos cientos de miles de afro que ya muchos estaban mestizados con europeos y aborígenes, sumado a la abolición de la esclavitud de vientre primero antes del 1820 y luego para restó de los avitantes
I am Argentine and I am glad that not all Americans do not think the same of us because of the Washington post since less than 1% of the Argentine population is colored and Argentines are not racist for not including black players in our soccer team
Argentina es especial, tenés que nacer o vivir mucho acá para entender, que no nos creemos más que los otros, no discriminamos gratuitamente a todo el mundo y etc
Looking for racism is paranoia
La única razón de que en Argentina existan tantos inmigrantes europeos y en el resto de Latinoamérica no es simple. Copiamos la constitución de los EEUU y así fue el segundo país del mundo detrás de EEUU en recibir inmigrantes. Lo que importa es la libertad y nada más. Algún día volverán esos días, mientras tanto seguimos acá trabajando.
She's talking BS in my opininion, she has had her brain washed by university classes and American theories.
Argentina has so many flaws but one of the few good things is openness to everyone. the country was built on a racial mix and no one cares about the idea of "race" as it exists in Europe of the USA.
anyone calling Argentina racist, ok, some questions:
- how many votes do anti-immigrant parties get, compared to Europe or North America? in any election, is this even a major issue? yet millions of Bolivians, Peruvians, Paraguayans, Venezuelans, Haitians, etc., enter Argentina every year, and it's not even an issue people talk about, despite the fact the country doesn't even feed it's own people.
- what "race" are Argentineans? does anyone consider someone else less or more Argentinean based on skin colouring or features? answer - no.
- how many immigrants ever get attacked in Argentina? there is terrible crime and violence but almost never racially motivated.
- is there any place in Argentina where you'd be scared to go as say a black guy, or Asian, or Jewish? answer: no. can anyone say the same with any country in Europe or USA? of course not, there are many places in any country in North America or Europe, where someone not white would be scared to go.
yes it's true Argentineans are not politically correct but they treate everyone the same. if you are dark they call you call you el negro, if you are blond el gringo or el rubio, if you are fat el gordo, if you are thin el flaco etc. etc. etc. Everyone has a nickname based on physical characteristics. she is trying to say this is racism, but actually it's the opposite - because they don't think it's a big deal, they have no problem talking about it. by difference in the US or Europe, where race is a huge deal to them, they are scared to even talk about it.
I am Argentine living in the US. My skin is white due to my jewish ancestry and so is my argentine wife’s due to her European background. I have been taking my 4 year old to this Daycare for the last 2 years. This place is literally run by 100% black workers including teachers, janitors, cooks, secretaries, etc. 98% of the boys and girls attending are black. The teachers and workers love and adore my son and he loves them back. Some of the boys made not so nice comments to my son on his skin and hair color. I doubt they came up with that by themselves at 4 years old. Most of the parents are nice, for a few is quite clear they are not happy with us being there. There are good and bad people of all colors, sizes, nationalities, etc. Argentina is definitely not a racist country.
The only problem I have with this video is that you said that Argentina is very European, it's obviously that you said that because you weren't in the north. If you go to Salta or Jujuy you're probably gonna think it's a different country. They are mostly indigenous descendants and they are argentinians too. Argentina is more diverse that foreigners think.
Hi! I would like to make a contribution.
As you have probably already seen in other comments, Argentina has a large number of immigrants of various ethnic groups who mixed over time, mainly Europeans.
At first, to name the children of these immigrants, they used different terms such as "Criollos", for children of Europeans born in Argentina and other Spanish-speaking countries; "Mestizos", for children born to parents of different ethnic groups and finally "Mulatos", for children born to Europeans and Africans, mainly black slave women. This was called "Cuadro de Castas" (caste chart) and was used by the Spanish empire during its colonization in Argentina and other surrounding countries. After the Argentine revolution and Spanish-speaking in general, these terms stopped being used, especially "Mulato" since it made reference to black women as "Mulas" (mules) and the term "Trigueño" began to be used instead.
Nowadays, many people, I would dare to say that the vast majority, in Argentina and Latin America in general, perceive themselves as "Trigueños", instead of "Blacks" when surely in countries like the United States they would be considered "Black people"
This is my contribution, I hope it helps you!
If someone thinks something is missing or there is something to correct, they are free to contribute!
The Mapuches were committing a crime and used children and pregnant women to shield themselves 🤣
Not gonna lie, I’m a little shocked about the Peruvian people not linking us, I thought we were brothers! So this is Argentina vs rest of the world 🇦🇷💙
Hay peruanos dando la opinión contraria en otros comentarios, somo históricamente países aliados. Con respecto a los mapuches, esos son más blancos que yo que desciendo de suizos, encima tienen apellidos ingleses.
Thank you for thoughtfully expressing your experience (and making clear the limitations of that experience) rather than jumping into a position. I would venture to say that we humans have ALL been taught and/or absorbed some kind of superior/inferior-ism, be it based on culture, "race," education, appearance, or whatever. These things can be hard to notice, then hard to reflect on calmly, and then hard to change--but the mere fact that we unwittingly acquired them does not (by itself) mean we are "bad." Accusations and the corresponding defenses (whether there was any accusation or not) do not help. I appreciate your calm and balanced presentation of your own experience, and of your friend's perspective.
You suggested that Brazil had no Italian immigration, which is completely bullshit, Brazil had more Italian immigration than Argentina in total numbers, behind only the US, so dude do better research before making assumptions
never had contact with an argentinian who is not calling others "monkeys"
then you should search more... you just found some racist fuckers like in all the world ☠️
mono significa lindo tambien , si digo esa chica es muy mona estoy diciendo esa chica es muy linda , en esos terminos hay varios significados ,a un amigo se le puede decir mono , mil veces me dijeron que onda mono ,y soy blanco ,y algunos son negros y tambien les dice es asi esto , si sos flaco te dicen fideo y no se enoja el flaco, si sos gordo te dicen gordo aunque el que es gordo aveces si se enoja ,el que es negro se le dice negro y ese no se enoja , a mesi le dicen la pulga porque es bajo y no se enoja, al dibu martinez le dicen dibu porque se parecia a un dibujito
I'm mixed, soy de ascendencia guaraní (Translate this, because I don't know how to write that), and I've never experienced discrimination nor racism here. Both of my parents are from Uruguay and they came here when they were 6 years old. It's sad that a lot of anglos are pushing this "Argentina is racist" agenda ok us, when there's 0 evidence. We never had any segregationist policy here, we abolished slavery in the constitution of 1852 and in 1813 with "Libertad de vientres" law. We even had a black player play football during the 1920, his name was Santos. Yes, while the Americans were discriminating against black people we had already a black player in our national team, they even had segregationist policies until the 60s.
It's hard to understand the Argentinians unless you live here, there are a lot of nuances and non written laws that may pass as racist or xenophobic if you are from Europe or North America, most of those are jokes.
We used to be a province of the Spanish Empire, and in the Spanish empire mestizaje was common, that's why most of us are mixed and there are not a lot of black people here.
¿Uruguayo de ascendencia guaraní? Será una ascendencia muy antigua supongo.
@@dalerojo2.091 el norte argentino, sur de brasil, paraguay, el norte de uruguay se expandieron por toda la zona
@@aknsmar2768 por eso digo antigua si es de Uruguay, ya que allá hace mucho ya no hay guaraníes (que llegaron junto con los españoles). Y los descendientes que todavía eran racialmente amerindios también casi que desaparecieron con la mezcla (en Uruguay pasó con los amerindios lo mismo que en Argentina con los negros). Hoy quedan unos pocos mestizos y zambos..
@@dalerojo2.091 Cuando digo de ascendencia guaraní me refiero a mestizos, mí abuela tenía ascendencia guaraní y su padre creo que era portugués o español.
Argentinian here. Just to point out a couple of things regarding this video: your friend Belén forgot to say that calling someone "negro" or "negrito" in Argentina more often than not is a very friendly way to address someone you know, which comes to disprove somewhat her overly negative speech. Also the xenophobic behaviour against people from other countries stems from ignorance, like anywhere else. Born and raised Argentina I can assure you that race is never an issue in day to day conversations. Argentinian people are in its immense majority color blind I dare to say. People should never seriously label Argentina as a racist country.
Eso de que se usa negro más seguido en forma amistosa que peyorativa no es para nada cierto, es recontra común que la gente se refiera a los chorros/maleducados/ordinarios/adictos/quilomberos/ignorantes como "negros" o "negros de m...". Decirle negro en forma amistosa a alguien conocido (o no) también es común, pero sin dudas menos que lo primero.
Y lo otro tampoco es tan así. Aunque los de afuera suelen exagerar, es mentira que acá no haya racismo. Sí suele ser un racismo que no pasa de las burlas, pero está muy presente, sino fijate lo que comenta la gente en cualquier partido de fútbol donde buena parte del equipo rival sean negros.
@@dalerojo2.091 Ojo que no digo que haya cero racismo, pero no es brutal ni muchísimo menos. Comparativamente con otros lugares tal vez considerados más desarrollados que nosotros en muchos otros aspectos, el racismo nuestro es ínfimo. No niego que haya desprecio por el inmigrante, pero en general se da porque el que desprecia es un termocéfalo que no salió de su barrio, y esa actitud no es privativa de Argentina, sino que se da en todos los países. Es la desconfianza a lo desconocido, que se da casi de forma instintiva. Por tu nick estimo que sos de Independiente. Yo también, y recuerdo hace unos años cuando iba a ver al rojo a la bombonera le cantábamos el himno a los de boca por eso de que hay gente de otros países que simpatiza con sus colores. Pero lo hacíamos riéndonos, era una escena más jocosa que amenazante. En todo caso tal vez ningún país puede ser considerado totalmente racista. En todos los países hay gente con diversos niveles de racismo, asi que se vuelve algo demasiado subjetivo para generalizarlo. Saludos
Yo como argentina te voy a decir lo que yo pienso, lo que molesta de los argentinos es nuestra forma de ser, porque no nos dejamos pisar la cabeza, otros países como México , o cualquier país latinoamericano se acostumbraron que sus antepasados tenían que obedecer órdenes de los conquistadores, y ya se acostumbraron a ser así, y como el argentino no se deja pisotear eso molesta. Segundo la mayoría de los inmigrantes de países limítrofes (piel más oscura que los argentinos) muchos vinieron no a trabajar sinó a ocupar tierras y quedarse no a trabajar sinó a robar, en las cárceles casi todos son inmigrantes, entonces si una persona está caminando por la calle y viene alguien de piel oscura tiene miedo porque piensa que le va a robar, no es racismo, es miedo
Eso suena muy incoherente y raro obvio sigue siendo racismo si por pensar que alguien de piel oscura te va a robar no digas que no lo es suena estupido
@@venusevangelis737 si pero lamentablemente es así y a veces uno tiene que desconfiar de gente que es buena, igualmente a los que nos robaron muchas veces ya detectamos quien es ladrón y quién no, también en la forma de vestir, por ejemplo si tienen una gorra en la cabeza, o tienen buzo con capucha, zapatillas tipo nike
@@venusevangelis737 quiero agregar algo, siempre se trata más que bien a alguien que es turista, por ejemplo si alguien escuchamos que tiene acento mexicano sabemos que es buena gente, porque no tiene la "picardía" de los de acá, entonces los tratamos con esta cara 🤗 y hasta todo el mundo le va a recomendar que tenga "cuidado" de no dejar celulares a la vista y demás, bueno igual todo esto de ser desconfiados sólo sucede en Buenos Aires porque las 22 provincias restantes es todo muy tranquilo. Otra cosa que aclarar es que tampoco hay ningún problema con gente de raza negra, no hay casi y tampoco escuché en toda mí vida que alguno haya robado o matado ni nada por el estilo, jamás en toda mí vida escuché, aparte sería muy fácil identificarlo jajaja pero son personas buenas
@@sonrie6561
¿Los argentinos se creen blancos? Jajajajajaj
chuchos como todos aqui en sudamerica
How can you dare to entitle yourself to impose your worldview just by travel the world> when you travel, you go with your way of seeing the world your culture. I have more than 100 countries and a PhD in International development education. well educate yourself before posting videos that will damage people worldview and local perspective can be given with academic and practical knowledge not only by passing by a country
Yo soy Argentina, de la provincia de Santa Fe (provincia de Messi) y debo decir que los más discriminatorios son los de capital (Buenos Aires), históricamente es la pelea entre las provincias y la capital del país. Y sí, nos creemos los mejores porque cualquier cosa que nos pongan a hacer lo hacemos, porque somos grandes resilientes, estamos acostumbrados a sobrevivir, porque nuestros políticos nunca han sabido llevar el país adelante.
You will probably never read my comment, but if you do, I am Argentine, descendant of Paraguayan immigrants. I grew up both in humbler neighborhoods and in neighborhoods with greater economic power. And I can assure you, that racism does not exist here as the girl in your video says, what's more, she misinterprets basic things of Argentine culture and society. Racism is not the same as classism, here nobody is going to denigrate you because of your skin color, but rather because of your social class and probably if you come from neighboring countries, Bolivia and Paraguay, which are the largest immigrants in the last few years. 30 years old, usually because they usually have a bad reputation for being part of criminal groups, but even so, it does not reach a level of discrimination, by far, like the one in the USA, and I am a witness because my family is Paraguayan and Even my accent is different despite being Argentine. Yes, classism and xenophobia towards certain immigrants is a defect, but Belen is wrong, no one is judged by whether they are black, yellow or whatever their color is. On the other hand, I am very sorry that she told you that an aboriginal leader was tried for racism and sexism, it is false, in the last year many politicians are being tried for corruption, and this aboriginal "leader" was part of this chain of corruption that plagued the north of the country, this is happening in different parts of the country, regardless of gender or skin color. Regarding the way in which we use the word "black", they already explained it very well in other comments, so I reserve it to myself.
I’m Korean and lived in Argentina for two years recently. Never experienced any racism. Got called a chino a few times (maybe 4-5 times in 2 years, so not much. In comparison, I got called chino about 60 times in 4 days in Cartagena, Colombia) but don’t think that’s racist, just ignorant, and none of the people who called me that meant any offense.
I found porteños rather cold and indifferent (like people in many other capitals in the world), but super fun when I got to know them, and found Argentinians in other regions warm and curious of my background.
I like Argentinians - a passionate, fun and warm group of people in general. Yes they do think they’re better than the rest of Latin America, but I’m not from Latin America so I don’t mind it 😂
I experienced far more racism in Europe than in Argentina tbh. If I’m being honest, South Korea is far more racist than Argentina.
Hola !!! Tengo que decir algunas aclaraciones que no se entiende. Primero que no somos racistas .. y si había gente de color que se extendieron por 2 razones, 1 por la fiebre amarilla y porque se mezclaron las razas y que damos blancos mestizos y etc. Porque acá no se los tenía como esclavos, se los trataban como personas. Y no como bichos ratos. Eran libre y tenían sus propias casas y están todos en Buenos Aires y no en toda la argentina lo que quedaron son pocos afrodescendientes, que es un 5,3% que sería un total de 150.000 más o menos cálculo aproximando. Hay también una forma cariño de decir mi negrita o mi negrito y acá nadie se ofende y no es un insulto. Hay que revisar la historia argentina que larga y tiene muchas cosas interesante.. Espero que no te aburra mi explicación pero bueno en fin salud Desde Argentina.
sep confirmo soy de buenos aires y de ves en cuando uno se cruza en los colegios y nada como maximo se le tira un chiste relacionado a su piel una ves al mes como máximo casi nunca nos importa y los tenemos como un igual de hecho yo tengo un hermano mas o menos marron no llega a afroamericano y les puedo garantizar que mi madre nunca me pego de chico por burlarme de mi hermano ni una ves y de hecho es el que mejor me llevo
Hola yo soy argentino, realmente no siento que Argentina sea racista, lo que si reconozco es que somos muy creídos jajaja
Somos creídos porque tenemos con que. Fuimos el primer país sudamericano en independizarse y prácticamente hicimos lo mismo con casi la mitad de los países en el cono sur.
A los Argentinos nos importa un carajo la raza de las personas. Lo que si vas a encontrar es discriminación por clase social, pero solo por algunos ignorantes.
ESTO ES MUY CIERTO. HAY CLASISMO, NO RACISMO. LA BRECHA ENTRE POBRES Y RICOS SE HA PROFUNDIZADO MUCHO... LA MAYORÍA DE NOSOTROS HOY NO PUEDE AHORRAR, ASÍ QUE IMAGINENSE QUE SOMOS MUCHOS LOS DISCRIMINADOS Y EXCLUIDOS Y CADA VEZ MENOS LOS QUE EJERCEN ESA OPRESIÓN. VOLVIÉNDOSE CADA VEZ MÁS Y MÁS RICOS.
¿A QUIÉN CUERNOS VAMOS A DISCRIMINAR CON ESTA SITUACIÓN?
At least he visited Argentina to find it himself. Not like the rest of those entitled spoiled childs spilling disinformation, hatred and nonsense online
Thank you
I'm venezuelan, I'm not a white or a black person, I'm a mixture between whites and natives americans, like most latinos. I went to Argentina in 2007 for tourism. In my opinion, comparing to other latin american countries, I'm not saying Argentina is the most racist, but at least must be in the top 5. Comparing to Spain, the whitest spanish speaker country for obvious reasons, I think argentinians are even more racist, I live in Spain. Besides that, I think some people exaggerate racism there. In Argentina is common use the word "negro" which means "black" to refer about someone black or brown, but not necessary is an insult, some people use it as an accomplished. In Argentina there isn't racial violence like US, or there is not the discrimination that maybe someone can find in some eastern european countries. You won't find in Argentina groups like the KKK living in communities like they do in US. Argentina normally don't threat or discriminate tourist, with exceptions. When I was there seldom I felt some people looking at me a little weird. I remember that I was in a museum in Buenos Aires and a worker said to me "no toqués eso, negro", which means "don't touch that, black", but for the way he said it and the context, I think that sir was being racist, although most of people were kind with me. There are many venezuelans inmigrants in Argentina, a friend of me told me that for some jobs, some exclude dark people, but I don't know if that's true. For ending, I agree that some argentinians feels superior for their ethnicity, but is a mistake believe all are bad racist people, and I think countries like USA or Germany, have by far a more terrible history of racism, and won't surprise me that some parts of the US are more racist than many from Argentina
BadEmpenada's video on this subject is very informative as he gets more into the colonial roots of the matter and touches on Sarmiento's efforts to eradicate the presence of black-argentines in the 1800s
That about Sarmiento is not true at all, and if I remember well, he (Bad Empanada) didn't quote that but just mentioned it like one of the old and fake theories, and then mentioned what actually happened with blacks according to historians, that was the gradual mixing with whites and amerindians (both groups that were bigger) during two centuries until became almost completely absorbed through it, and that's why they became a tiny and very admixtured minority.
You can read to Erika Denise Edwards (on UA-cam also there is stuff from her about this topic), a black American woman historian that study the history of black people in Argentina since 2002 and even wrote a book about it, that she also mention that the main reason for the decline of the black population in Argentina was the mixing with whites and amerindians.
thanks for sharing that!
eradicate sounds a lot to like mass killing to me... that's a weird choice of words. That didn't happen. All he did was to write a book about why they should promote European immigration (and he did exactly that during his presidence); sure, he did it because he thought they were "superior" to natives. But he didn't eradicate the presence of black argentines. In fact, if you read his book he almost doesn't even talk about black people. His main "preocupation" were the mapuche tribes that had recently migrated from Chile to Argentina and had been capturing sex slaves, stealing livestock, burning towns etc. If I remember correctly (I read it like 15 years ago so I might be wrong), he talks about black people only once in the entire book when he says african countries were barbarians or something like that.
@@lukecole5056 Yes, that makes him a racist, in this case someone who is anti-black. Anyways, what do you expect if he was following European social thought at the time. Oh well, Argentina's not perfect. I'll still try to visit at some point.
@@dsa513 If you look at him with 21 centuries eyes, sure, he was a racist. If you look at him in context, and you realize he was literally trying to create a country from nothing, you'll understand bit more... He knew he needed to bring a massive amount of people to populate the confederation (by the time, the population of Argentina, which is the 8th biggest country in the world was less than 1 million people, desertic). He wanted to create an agricultural and industrialized country and he knew he needed educated workers and business men to do that. He wrote a book called "civilization or barbarism", contrasting what he wanted to what he didn't want for a country. It happened that by the time, European literacy rate was the highest in the world... around 90% already, followed by the US, whilst African literacy rate was virtually zero... so, obviously, people like Africans, illiterate natives, etc. were in the "barbarism" side of his social spectrum and northern european society with 90% literacy rates were in the "civilization" side.
Anyway, his plan was to create schools to educate locals (Argentina was like 20% behind Europe in literacy rate) whilst encouraging European immigration. He created a lot of schools and brang teachers from the US and Europe (that's why he's known until this day as "the father of the classroom" in Argentina and thousands of schools are called "Sarmiento"). By the way, black people, natives and "gauchos/criollos" (native-european mixed) were never banned from schools and universities. His problem wasn't with race, it was with culture and education and what served him to create the country he wanted. Sure, culture and education in times of a segregated world sounds a lot like racism, but if you actually investigate, you will realize race wasn't his main concern. He never created a single racially motivated law like in the US, even though he admired the US as a project of a nation. He tried to copy every single thing about the US, even the Argentine Constitution was made taking the US constitution as a base and he was a constituent. He took almost everything in the US civic and political spectrum as an example, except for racial laws. Why?
Between education for locals and natives and a massive immigration from Europe he managed to create a country that was once the 1st and 2nd economic power in the world by 1900. So, he kinda succeded.
As Argentinean, I don't think there is a big racism here, there is more classism no matter you color if you look poor between wealthy people you're going to get some awful sights, we have a term for that people "Chetos" not but all the rich people just for those one who are disgusting.
An american friend living here in Argentina thought that we were the worst because of argentinian tourists he met in other countries. When he met average argentinians here, he changed his mind.
The argentinians that other countries know are the ones who can afford travelling: the wealthier ones (it is very very expensive for us to travel given the devaluation of the argentinian peso).
unpleasant
I have seen this about this topic when the World Cup was going on. To me , it shows how ignorant the American writers are about Argentina. Americans think the rest of the world is like them. NO, sorry to break it to you, we do not have the racism we experience in the US, our children do not go to school with fear of being killed etc. Yeah, "unfortunately you were not discriminated against." A statement I bet you cannot say about the USA.
Hey thanks for taking the time to watch my video, I uploaded this video before the World Cup and I watched it myself. This topic has less to do with America and more about Argentina and it’s history, weather you acknowledge or not,black Argentinians we’re not represented on your futbol team so their was an outcry for it that went viral. My video is not about comparing United States issues to the world or in this case Argentina,because to the two countries don’t equate. Yes America has its issues and discrimination, I can 100% confirm that because I was born there and experienced it. But it does not mean other countries are not capable as well. I hope you listened to what I said and not feel triggered, Perhaps ask someone of color or different country if they felt discriminated, you may surprised on the results.
Cheers
I BEEN here for two years and never felt any...BUT i know the rest of Latin americano's get it from the Argentine's...that's a fact .I compare it to like the west indies... we the "Jamaicans" call all the other countries in the indies "small island" and have a superiority complex over EVERY black nation even Africans.. this is in more jest not hate.its kind of the same thing but the difference is Argentina has the wealth and power and look down on the other latin nations which is F'd up...and because are mixed with white Europeans they flex on the others. so the answer is YES to other latinos and NO FOREIGN blacks... it not like the UK or USA how black people are seen. they do keep on asking me if i a basketball player....take that how you will....ignorance happens
If you haven't experienced racism and you are relying on anecdotal evidence. You don't have much else to discuss my friend.
how is it anecdotal when people around the country are all saying the same thing? Just because I didn't experience it doesn't mean its not there I gave a locals perspective which proved my point wth ahaha
@@Paintyourlifestyle what you are doing is called CONFIRMATION BIAS. Why do I say this? Because I would never agree with those people and I am a non white argentinean with indigenous, middle eastern and angolan ancestry. Whiteness is not a thing in argentina. Why? Because most of the european ancestry comes from southern europeans and their skin is typicaly a few shades darker than northeb europeans
@@Paintyourlifestyle If I only ask specific people about racism in the US. I would probably come up with the conclusion that for every black man, there is a cop waiting at their doorstep waiting to beat them up and put in jail every single day. And all black men went to prison for smoking weed. But I don’t believe that, because I don’t engage in confirmation bias like you are
@@anticipayo you don't have agree or disagree with anyone, thats your upbringing. Because what you're doing now is disregarding the numerous people in the comments their experience feeling discriminated. My video didn't give a definitive answer it was left open for people to answer. As I stated it would of been nice to get more data from an Afro Argentinian. Also your comparison isn't the same lol racism in America is systemic, cops kill black men every week and get paid time off, smoking weed is only illegal some states. Thats a very stereotypical response lol. Bro just read the comments and hash it out with the people that have been discriminated.
@@Paintyourlifestyle I am not agreeing or disagreeing. I am just highlighting the fact that you engaged in a very dumb fallacy. Someone of your age with a minimum of college education should know better.
That woman sounded like a political activist rather than a normal person. Come to Argentina, we have a lot of flaws like everybody else but most of us are good enough people
60% of the Argentine people are racist
Hi, I really like your point of view about the country, and how you relate it, Argentina is a beautiful country to visit and make easily friends.
The problem in Argentina about the racism, is not linked to skin colour, but an economy position and lifestyle. When an Argentinian talks about "a black person" or "un negro", is not referring to an afro-descendant person or mestizo or the colour or race, it means to the lowest economy position, persons who lives in the Villas or peripheries of the city, that are generally people of the Pueblos originarios. It is a strange concept to understand because they are not classist, but it´s related to the polityc.
Great insight on the topic. I usually hear all the same stuff about Argentina you mentioned but without context or nuance I couldn't quite reconcile it with what the perception I got from black UA-camrs having a great time visiting there. This video really helped give some more perspective. Keep it up!
Thanks Frank! Glad I could bring some deeper insight on the topic, I was on the fence of even putting this out there because its a little outside of what I normally create but its moving in the right direction.
I will call misinformation more than great insight
Es un tema muy complejo tenés que vivir acá para sacar conclusiones, creo que Argentina es tan racista como cualquier otro país, quizás más que Bolivia y menos que Estados Unidos, pero todos los paises tienen una cuota de racismo. Eso si, no da para todos esos comentarios que ponen que los Argentinos son particularmente racistas, somos tan racistas como el resto del mundo lamentablemente. Simplemente el racismo se manifiesta de diferentes maneras en cada lugar. Por ejemplo, la palabra negro o negrito no tiene una connotación negativa como en otros países, mi mamá me decía negrita de forma cariñosa, yo le digo a mi hijo y mi esposo me dice asi también, es una expresión para demostrar afecto, cada pais es diferente.
Escuché eso antes, que las mujeres se dirijan a ellas como negras es algo a lo que no estoy acostumbrado a escuchar.
@@Paintyourlifestyle Si, es una expresión de cariño. Tenemos una canción de cuna muy conocida en Latinoamérica que se llama duerme negrito, nuestras mamás nos las cantan para dormir, te invito a escucharla, es parte de conocer mejor la cultura
¿Estados Unidos menos racista? Hay un choque cultural bastante cuestionable de blancos contra afros disfrazados de buenismo; afros contra asiáticos que la prensa evade mencionar; latinos contra blancos y afros por razones culturales y educativas; y asiaticos contra afros por el estigma de no darles una debida relevancia ante otro grupo «minoritario».
Bueno, son muchos matices y eso hasta ya es responsabilidad de cada quien.
@@nicolasperilla7819 No dije que estados unidos es menos racista, dije que Argentina es menos racista que Estados Unidos
En Coroico 120 km de La Paz donde se cultiva la coca viven cerca de 500 afros ,es un region aymaras pero los afros son rechazados por los aymaras
In Argentina there are many problems, racism is not one of them because it does not exist in Argentina.
Is there any sort of campaign against Argentina? ( Don't answer, it's obvious there is). Denise ( you know who) , the writer, took care of this very well....She definitely knows that gossip is loved by several cultures. In the meantime she sells and sells, and all of you make UA-cam money as well. Keep playing reverse discrimination sir, you'll do well with the ignorants.
as a brazilian I can't even count how many times I got called "monkey" or "dirty black" on the internet by people from argentina and chile, but chileans are considerably less racist than argentines... this is not a experience shared just by me, if you ask any brazilian that have encountered argentines, especially in online games, they will tell you the same thing
Argentino é um defeito da natureza. Nem é só com brasileiro, é com literalmente todo mundo. Tem até um cara rico fazendo vídeo expondo verdades sobre a os argentinos.
@@Kownter é foda demais Man, os caras são iludidos
thats interesting sorry to hear thats the case ,but reality ,reality .i wouldnt go any place were i am not welcome or looked down on
some people have got time ,i ant got time for that ,iasia europe most of South America .North America forget it
Right there in Brazil, Black Brazilians are marginalized and descriminated against by your white minority! Look in house before you look in someone else house.
@@misterlexx2721 doesn't have anything to do with Argentina's racism and xenophobia, you make no sense and sound like a fool
Thanks for this video and teaching me about Argentina, also the mic element is not top down on the yeti
Glad it helped! See you on the next video ✈️
I think we are very proud of our Culture and it can be confused with superiority complex… it doesnt mean that some people has a huge ego and is something u can realize mostly in the capital, but i think that is something normal in every capital… also is very usually some nicknames can be confused with racism, as negro, turco and so on, but in Argentina the people say that in another way…. Nice video
You guys from Italians and Germany Nazis
@@Chaabt hahahahaha
So you are xenophobics and racists.
Well done
Nah, im argentinian and this country IS full of racisim. 99% of the population hates black people
@@Nelox2000 no
the answer is in this video of Argentinian fans singing racist chants : youtube : "Argentina Fans sing xenophobic chants towards black players from France"
Nope, it was xenophobic, not racist, the song said nothing about them being black.
I saw the video but it was not translated for me
@@Paintyourlifestyle la letra dice:
Escuchen, corran la bola, juegan en Francia pero son todos de Angola.
Que lindo es, van a correr, son come travas como el puto de Mbappe.
Su vieja es nigeriana, su viejo camerunés, pero en el documento... Nacionalidad francés.
Contexto:
Es un canto haciendo burla al hecho de que Francia no tiene jugadores locales (talento local) y busca jugadores de otros países, en este caso del continente africano solo por conveniencia. No es algo contra ellos ni por el color de piel que tengan, aunque si es cierto que Mbappe no es muy querido en Sudamérica por muchos, porque en una entrevista declaró que el fútbol europeo es superior al Sudamericano. Además de que se habla que es egocéntrico.
No cayeron muy bien esas declaraciones.
Por eso en está canción hacen mención al hecho de que él se vió involucrado con una mujer trans, intentando burlarse de él. No es muy afortunada la letra pero podrás vos sacar tus conclusiones. La canción fue cantada en TV por 4 hinchas argentinos fuera del estadio, no por todo un país.
Argentina Is not Netflix
Argentina is not racist. It can be considered quite classist, because of the European immigration and the clear centralization of the country in Buenos Aires. Here any foreign citizen who comes to Argentina will be able to enjoy the same benefits that we have, whether he/she is a tourist or a resident.
Si no naciste en la zona de Buenos Aires probablemente no estés acostumbrado a ver personas de color negro,yo soy de Córdoba y vi por primera vez en mi vida una persona negra muy recientemente,mi abuela tiene como 90 y todavía se sorprende cuando los ve en la televisión. Lo mismo cuando vino gente de Corea a mi barrio cuando era chico fuimos a comprarle para ver como eran.
Creo que es porque no estamos acostumbrados a ser tan abiertos y cosmopolitas como en otros países desarrollados.
Bueno, no sólo gente de Corea, sino de China y Japón también, de hecho los coreanos son los que menos abundan de los tres.
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Te felicito por salir del taper y aun así hablas por todos los argentinos jajajaja
@@terraargentum3984 Si pensas que Argentina es solo Buenos Aires el que vive en el taper sos vos querido,un saludo
Yo tambien soy de Córdoba hmrno, y en mis 28 años de vida, jamás he visto a una persona de color negro.
Se que las hay, en la Argentina, pero yo no me he cruzado con ninguno.
Como siempre: si queres instalar un problema, y este no tiene entidad o muy menor, busco alguna manifestacion de su persepcion y lo potencian, total... siempre alguien siente algo afin a su interes. Como no hubo ni apartheid o segregacion, para los buscadores de racismo que no aceptan el gran proceso de mestizaje, donde el numero de la inmigracion blanca supero olgadamente a la nativa. Los prejuicios muchas veces te ponen en victima, sin permitirte ver como es el otro verdaderamente. Y sinceramente, hay mucha ignorancia sobre la Argentina. saludos