I like how they spent so much time prepping the decoy, that if they didn't spend that time, they could have left earlier and Vader wouldn't even have arrived.
It's not even fact that he can even do it that makes it scary, rather the way it just fucking STOPS instead of gradually slowing down like he just pressed the pause button.
Technically Anakin was more powerful than Vader but cocky, arrogant, and less experienced. The loss of his limbs as well as the burns and suit was basically like losing half of himself power wise. I believe even Lucas said this.
@@strider1237 True but the experience and mastery of the dark side means Darth Vader was probably more powerful than Anakin. Raw power Anakin has the clear edge but Vader was honed into a killing machine and was responsible for murdering hundreds of jedi between 3 and 4.
@@68planehits ye realisticly vader's weaknesses can only be exploited by those trained to a high degree in the dark side since his only real weakness is sith lightning and not the basic form but the more advanced form used by sidious starkiller and a few others that can literally burn and at times disintigrate people but at this point in time nearly anyone strong in the darkside to the point their a threat and can use true sith abilities is dead and all the jedi have no lightning based abilties unless they use tech so realisticly only weakness vader got is being less agile and less powerful overall
@@lordsathariel4384 Also must consider the fact that Jedi haven't been training seriously in lightsaber vs lightsaber combat for centuries if not thousands of years. Modern jedi are largely untrained to defeat dark side jedi, least of all Sith. Meanwhile every iteration of Sith has been honing their dueling skills planning to kill jedi.
@@68planehits ye plus even during the galactic wars during the old Republic a sith apprentice was more then a match for a master plus his padawans so not practicing is rather bad
i cant believe they did the same stupid " haha got ya ...there was a second ship!" as the chewy scene from Rise of Skywalker like it wasnt terrible the first time.
Just lazy writing which seems to be the norm these days. The good guys are never really in any danger, other than the pawn sacrifice which always happens to add a sense of faux tragedy to the affair.
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! Yes but Yoda used their own propulsion and inertia in his favor... In this case right here is more impressive cause the ship was going on the opposite direction only, vader beat all the inertia and all the rockets with one hand lol
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! Its not about the size its about inertia. Even you and me together we can push a truck of 15 tons if he's already moving... Those ships were already flying towards each other or in the general direction he pushed them... And Yoda is the most powerful force user aswell. Anakin would be far stronger if not for his lost limbs, but as Vader don't think so. Still, i think this is the more impressive feat. To hold the ship still while is going full blast in the other direction...
@@MadChristoph Luke said the X wing was “ too heavy” because he hadn’t honed his ability yet. Using the force is some that take practice. Grogu passes out because he’s a literal baby and also doesn’t have control over his power.
0:34 Vader: Wow, they put some effort into that. That's something I would have pulled when I was younger. You know what? I'm going to let them have that one. Just this once.
@@The8thblock I know rigth!? Mine as a bit a dangerous obsession with me. I left job and he still want me to come over like "when are you comingto pick up your stuff", "you still have to come to drop your badge and laptop" , if you don't come I will have to escalate your case to HR". Seriously, what a creep, he want to see me so much he even use threats now.
Not necessarily,he was using one of his hands;so he wasn’t really struggling.the fact that you can hear his breathing is because he can barely breath due to damage that he got in mustafar and it doesn’t have anything to do with struggling.
@@Alexpbs1998 force users only do the hand motions as symbolic gestures to help them focus. they don't technically need to even use them. A single hand doesn't necessarily mean difficulty as much as it's the choreography of the character/ ie "their style" this happens to be vader's, very consistently at that I miight add.
I've always felt that Vader didn't really give a damn about the Empire, so he kinda just halfassed his way through everything. The only times he gets serious is when it involved Luke or Obi-Wan.
I know it will probably annoy people but Rey and Kylo did it first in Rise of Skywalker. (In Live action I mean, I know Starkiller and Legends Luke are way older)
@@junior523 If you’re referring to the scene in the desert, that wasn’t a Star Destroyer. That was just a regular transport ship. Star Destroyers are absolutely massive in size
The force stamina argument is a good one but the more likely reason Vader did not pull down the second ship may not be because he is exhausted, but because he had already sensed the trap that Reva was about to try to spring upon him and readied himself for it. He even says it after he blocks Reva's sneak attack with the Force. "Obi Wan was wise to use you against me..."
Umm... Most likely is that we already know that force for sith is enhanced by anger. Vader was bamboozled, hence he didnt have time to react and pull that anger again in such short time, so he just chose to leave it, take an L and chase them more by ship. He just pulled most impressive feat of force in star wars universe up to this point with pulling down that ship. It would be insane if he did it again half second later, like it doesnt cost him anything.
I’ve seen edits of this that make the whole scene flow so much better, goes like this: - still has the decoy ship take off and he pulls it down and rips it open to see nobody there. - second ship takes off and he stops it like the first one, struggles slightly but keeps it in place - reva attacks him forcing him to break connection to the ship; letting it go. Scene continues with reva fight It shows he’s tired from the first time, it shows he is FORCED to let go of the ship instead of standing there like an idiot, finally makes reva slightly smarter for attacking Vader when he is distracted The scene we got is due to bad screenwriting
No he WAS tired. Anybody who’s seen Star Wars knows using the force is extremely tiring. It’s why they’re not just using it all the time like some X-Men character, AND Vader is a crippled war veteran who’s constantly on life support. And even after he pulled it down, he was able to use the force to stop Reva’s attack. Just not pull another massive ship down.
I love how Lord Vader could have easily stopped the actual ship just as well, but let them go, so he must have thought something like "Hah Kenobi u sly dog, classic Kenobi"
It's a force stamina thing. He expended so much effort fighting against the ship's engines that he needed to recharge, so to speak. This idea is explored in the game Fallen Order.
@@singularis9 You could have gone to something like Mandalorian, where we've seen the physical toll the force has on its users, but sure, reference arguably the worst part of Star Wars canon
Imagine being the ex tutor from the monster and use a light variant from palpatine force cloak fog mixed with the goku ki technique of just diminish your ki (or force) for being incredible furtive
That was such a badass moment. This scene is probably my favorite Darth Vader scene. I was so excited to see him use the force to pull down a whole space ship.
@@powerage261 what seriously? This is one of, if not my favorite Darth Vader scene. Don't give me that if you disagree. I didn't say it was the greatest Darth Vader scene of all time.
I'd like to think that the real struggle Vader experience here is trying to keep his own body from breaking. The Force within him is still overwhelmingly potent, but it's like the water in a cracked jar that will break if you overfill it
"No, no, get in this ship, and remote launch the other one - then we'll take off in this one when he's not expecting it." "That seems overly unreliable and convoluted." "But he won't be expecting it." "It's Vader. You think you're going to fool Vader?"
Considering the fact he never showed the extend of his abilities or this much aggression in the originals is the good choice for the directors of this show to presentate his mental state during these moments in the show. He's facing someone from his past, someone who triggered his rage even in his injured form, someone who contributed in making his physical life miserable, someone he never beat even when his powers are far greater than. Plus the fact if the comics are to be considered canon, his cyborg form made his bond to the force interrupted and Palpatine also made sure his body parts are of bad quality thus making his life outside the bacta tank so irritating, he's been nerfed to the point he had to adjust his combat style to a passive mode. To go as far as pulling a ship down and ripping it apart. HE IS BEYOND FURIOUS IN THIS MOMENT
The scene where Yoda lifts the x-wing from the swamp hints at the potential of his power. Remember that at that time, Yoda was very old, and very near the end of his life. In his prime, Yoda could easily have performed a feat like this and likely brought down both ships with tiring much at all. The Dark side is in fact *weaker* than the light. But Yoda would never have done such a thing except under extreme circumstances to save lives.
Yoda was like a hundred+ years old lifting up a ship stuck in water and mud. Vader is in his prime, and was just trying to let gravity take it's course and make the ship fall. I'd say in his prime, Yoda was probably WAY more powerful than Vader.
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! well sure I knew that but if you remember Han had Luke shoot the hanger door shut before Vader and Stormtroopers could make thier way towards them and that's why Obi Wans spirit told Luke to run to the ship
Obi-Wan has always been represented as the quintessential Jedi. He is capable of devastating combat, but that is not the way of a Jedi, only a detour when necessary to protect life (“You grow too aggressive, Anakin. be mindful.”) As per his devotion to the Jedi Code, he is not assertive but passive, not combative but peaceful, not histrionic but thoughtful. It is all too easy, and inaccurate, to interpret this as relative weakness. In his cataclysmic fight with Vader, he knows better than anyone else who he is up against and the depth of his former padawan’s power, now enhanced by the Dark Side. That, coupled with the fact that I believe in that duel Vader believed he could humiliate and defeat Obi-Wan fighting on O-W’s own terms, i.e. like a Jedi. Rather than just Force-choke Obi-Wan and be done with it, I believe he wanted to prove that even fighting traditionally as a lightsaber-wielding Jedi he could defeat Obi-Wan. Only when it was clear Obi-Wan was holding his own and noting his “strength has returned” did Vader get frustrated and just buried him alive. What happened next was truly extraordinary, as there came a moment when Obi-Wan realized the Jedi way that defined him in the past no longer existed, and if he did not find another “way,” all would be lost, himself, the Skywalker children, and hope itself. So he let loose and tapped into his anger, his grief, and his passion, and after escaping from the pit literally came at Vader like a tiger. In that part of the battle you can see the fire and passion in Obi-Wan’s eyes. Gone is the cool, composed Jedi fighting discipline. In other words, the “weakness” that”still remains” as Vader taunted, was discarded. And Vader was utterly and completely unprepared for it.
Don't think anger had anyone to do with it. More like determination. Pretty sure Obi knew Vader would be able to know he was being attacked from behind too. Also notice how Obi makes it a point to only damage the mask. If Obi wasn't holding back he could have hit harder or done a follow up attack. He knew he had to finally "face" anakin. Then... he wuses out and walks off on him again. Come on dude, that's why Vader is angry. Give up on others like that and it teaches people to give up on themselves. Trust me on that this one. I get cowards to be brave by always facing them. So Obi walking off like that on Anakin AND Vader is showing "giving up". If that's the lesson that is taught it is the lesson that Vader learns. Until Luke comes along and never gives up on him.
I think my favorite detail in this scene is that you can see the burners on the jets give and fade a little soon as the ship is grabbed by the force, then go back to max burn throttle.
cool scene, ridiculous escalation of force powers. Imagine how much weight and thrust in pounds he is holding back? LOL. With that much power he could kills 1000000s of people using a single force push.
I really hate the new lore saying Vader is stronger than Anakin. He’s literally barely alive. He by all accounts is weaker than if he was fully alive. I like to think the reason he can do things like this versus what he could do as Anakin is because… Anakin was in his 20s. Vader has a lot more experience with his power and can thus do more with it. But I know new comics are saying he can even survive without the helmet if he’s angry enough. The reason I always liked him was his vulnerability mixed with extreme power. I just feel like we’re losing that.
OR..when the rebels escaped with the plans and with Princess Leia on board on a ship on Star Wars Rogue one at the end..it would've been important for Vader to do that.
Well aside from the fact that that was just the second movie and the years of mythology didn't exist yet, he doesn't need too. Just let them go and track them again later. He's impatient here so he holds down the ship and makes it his personal mission. Original trilogy Vader is much more patient and uses other resources.
@@jolly7041 This was just a small transport, not even as large as the Falcon, and Vader wasn’t able to pull it down without some real effort. Do you honestly believe he could’ve done the same to a ship the size of the Tantive IV?
this scene, didnt surprise me, if everyone here has read the comics from Darth Vader, you know what he is capable of, but it is so fun to have it live for once.
@@davidbarker7938 his injuries also lowered his overall medichlorian count and basically killed most of his potential with the force which is why it's scarier to think about a dark side Anakin that never got chopped up and had his power level capped off early
The extra ship was even there when Kenobi, Leia and the rest of the crew were boarding, let alone there the whole time when Vader was pulling down the decoy. You just have to pay a little more attention.
@@Phatooine you litterally see a clear shot of nothing else in the hanger when he's pulling the ship down, quit making excuses for bad storytelling and quit riding mickey mouse meat, over half the audience is done with Disney's Star Woke, look at the ratings for Andor and or season 3 of the Wo-mandolorian (the butch katan show)
@@Vectivuss Go back to your Trump cult! Star Wars and other woke companies don't want you to watch their content. Time to let it go and move on instead of being obsessed and becoming a stalker.
Am I the only one who finds it impressive, that he did that only with one hand? Other force users need two hands to lift something heavy up. Just imagine what Vader would have done to that ship, if he would have used two hands.
I mean... using your hands is probably just a way to focus your will and concentration on something. It would not make much sense that the physical movement of your hand would have an impact on your ability to use the Force. That's why Anakin and later Vader would also be able to use the Force with robot arms.
This is what I need from star wars, some epic force shit. In force unleashed Starkiller pulled freaking destroyer from the orbit with the force, and it was the best star wars moment of all time...
I do not think it was just a Vader "force stamina bar" that ran out. I think it was more he did not expect another ship beside it and by the time he saw it, it was too late to react to it as it took off and was too far away to pull down. That and it was not easy for him to bring it down in the first place, so he did need time to recover his strength.
@@norsendeI think he did not expect the ship to come out of the other ship and yes, it, took a lot for him to bring down the ship. I think it was more the ship coming out of the other ship he did not expect, so he failed to react quick enough.
@@ricsim78 Um, the other ship was parked behind the other ship. You can see it sitting there the whole time, right from the start of the clip. It's the same ship that takes off.
At this point with what Disneys done to Star Wars, the only thing that might be able to save the franchise is a Vader mini series with Hayden Christensen who’s been an absolute light in these let downs of shows. But they’d still probably find a way to screw it up
He is powerful here, but peak Vader as told in trilogy decimating hidden Jedi probably sometime between this story arc and New Hope. Obiwan bested him here, but in New Hope both Yoda and Ben describe him as much more powerful and formidable in their memories.
@ that's not an in-universe reason to change his power level. They also didn't have the technology to convincingly have Darth Vader shrink and grow in size like Ant-Man back then either. Would it be justified if they gave Vader that as a new power now? After all, they can pull it off now, but couldn't back in the 80s. Point is, if you're going to choose to continue a previously established story, you should follow the set of rules already set down.
@ And yet you don't bother to provide a single reason he wouldn't. If Vader didn't want to catch the rebels, including Luke, Leia and Han, the latter two of whom who were in the Falcon, then why bother going to Hoth? He especially wants Luke, and even if he sensed Luke wasn't in the Falcon, catching Leia & Han lets him set a trap for Luke with Luke sensing their pain the same way he ends up doing when Boba Fett tracks them to Cloud City. It would have accomplished his goal just sooner and more efficiently.
I like how they spent so much time prepping the decoy, that if they didn't spend that time, they could have left earlier and Vader wouldn't even have arrived.
But bro….
We need to leave in style
This was cooler
Crew: Ey... Listen... Don't ask questions
@@boredoreos yeah this is one of the most stupid scenes in Star Wars
Maybe they jumped to tbe other ship after seeing they failed, instead of poor writing
If you are wondering why he didn't pull the other ship, it's because his Pull Moves is in Cooldown
No mana
Enter Hoth?
But he’s the chosen one, so he should have no limits
@@conn_man_249 He's also a cripple on life support
@@conn_man_249 But Obi-Wan removed his potential
It's not even fact that he can even do it that makes it scary, rather the way it just fucking STOPS instead of gradually slowing down like he just pressed the pause button.
Louzy special effects. Ship looked like it weighed nothing which makes it like there's no heft to his power.
@@NikitaKyndt nah that just you bud, keep finding things to complain about. I am sure that will make you happy
@@NikitaKyndt Agree!
@@kalebgross1310 apparently not
Vader: Where u think u is goin?
It's kind of crazy how at this time in the universe, Darth Vader is at his prime. Not the same as when we see him in the originals.
Technically Anakin was more powerful than Vader but cocky, arrogant, and less experienced. The loss of his limbs as well as the burns and suit was basically like losing half of himself power wise. I believe even Lucas said this.
@@strider1237 True but the experience and mastery of the dark side means Darth Vader was probably more powerful than Anakin. Raw power Anakin has the clear edge but Vader was honed into a killing machine and was responsible for murdering hundreds of jedi between 3 and 4.
@@68planehits ye realisticly vader's weaknesses can only be exploited by those trained to a high degree in the dark side since his only real weakness is sith lightning and not the basic form but the more advanced form used by sidious starkiller and a few others that can literally burn and at times disintigrate people but at this point in time nearly anyone strong in the darkside to the point their a threat and can use true sith abilities is dead and all the jedi have no lightning based abilties unless they use tech so realisticly only weakness vader got is being less agile and less powerful overall
@@lordsathariel4384 Also must consider the fact that Jedi haven't been training seriously in lightsaber vs lightsaber combat for centuries if not thousands of years. Modern jedi are largely untrained to defeat dark side jedi, least of all Sith. Meanwhile every iteration of Sith has been honing their dueling skills planning to kill jedi.
@@68planehits ye plus even during the galactic wars during the old Republic a sith apprentice was more then a match for a master plus his padawans so not practicing is rather bad
Narrator: The efforts left him panting.
Kenobi: Actually, he is always panting. He never stopped panting since I burned him.
For some reason I read this with Ewan Mcgregor’s innocent/friendly Kenobi voice lmao
@@fletchy09 I read it in his TCW voice
*with the power of the High Ground
vader is always panting ...for natalie portman
@@vincentvega5686
"No Luke. Vader was betrayed, but it was not his betrayal which caused him such anger. It was the loss of his saber. You see..."
i cant believe they did the same stupid " haha got ya ...there was a second ship!" as the chewy scene from Rise of Skywalker like it wasnt terrible the first time.
😂😂
Just lazy writing which seems to be the norm these days. The good guys are never really in any danger, other than the pawn sacrifice which always happens to add a sense of faux tragedy to the affair.
This is easily the most aggressive display of telekinesis ever seen. Or at least within Star Wars.
Eleven has nothing on Vader
Starkiller: Am I a joke to you?
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! Yes but Yoda used their own propulsion and inertia in his favor... In this case right here is more impressive cause the ship was going on the opposite direction only, vader beat all the inertia and all the rockets with one hand lol
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! Its not about the size its about inertia. Even you and me together we can push a truck of 15 tons if he's already moving... Those ships were already flying towards each other or in the general direction he pushed them... And Yoda is the most powerful force user aswell. Anakin would be far stronger if not for his lost limbs, but as Vader don't think so. Still, i think this is the more impressive feat. To hold the ship still while is going full blast in the other direction...
@@TheRAMbIer probably meant in sw canon, but yeah Star killer’s pull is a high bar
I love how these show runners treat the force like a stamina bar in a video game. His force pull ability was on cool down.
That is how the force works though. It’s why Grogu passed out after lifting up that animal for so long in season 1 of the mandalorian
@@Ravensbro04 or when Luke said the X wing was too heavy
@@Ravensbro04 no it’s not lmao.
@@MadChristoph Luke said the X wing was “ too heavy” because he hadn’t honed his ability yet. Using the force is some that take practice. Grogu passes out because he’s a literal baby and also doesn’t have control over his power.
@@jamesdaviesanswers8751 well yeah, but I mean it still takes time to master it
0:34 Vader: Wow, they put some effort into that. That's something I would have pulled when I was younger. You know what? I'm going to let them have that one. Just this once.
That sounds like a Stewie Vader line if Family Guy parodied the Obi Wan series.
@@RondoOfBloodX Haha thats so true! Love family guy and star wars!
That's sounds like anakin would say in the clone wars.
When you try to leave work a little early but your boss reminds you that you still have 7 hours until the end of your shift
i hate that, then they get super clingy and text you the next day to come in to work... like i was just there yesterday though.
@@The8thblock I know rigth!? Mine as a bit a dangerous obsession with me. I left job and he still want me to come over like "when are you comingto pick up your stuff", "you still have to come to drop your badge and laptop" , if you don't come I will have to escalate your case to HR".
Seriously, what a creep, he want to see me so much he even use threats now.
🤣
and u still somehow find excuse to go home :D
💯
My favorite part about this scene is that you can hear him struggling to pull the ship down. Shows that was not a piece of cake.
If it wasn’t then he could’ve easily pulled the second one down
Not necessarily,he was using one of his hands;so he wasn’t really struggling.the fact that you can hear his breathing is because he can barely breath due to damage that he got in mustafar and it doesn’t have anything to do with struggling.
@@Alexpbs1998 listen closely at 0:14. He’s straining
Vader is limited by his physical condition
@@Alexpbs1998 force users only do the hand motions as symbolic gestures to help them focus. they don't technically need to even use them. A single hand doesn't necessarily mean difficulty as much as it's the choreography of the character/ ie "their style"
this happens to be vader's, very consistently at that I miight add.
IF HE COULD PULL A SHIP WHY DIDNT HE PULL THE DEATH STAR PLANS from the guy running
My thoughts exactly
Obviously because of plot armour, no force user can beat that.
He likes the chase
@@Germgeuse yep
I've always felt that Vader didn't really give a damn about the Empire, so he kinda just halfassed his way through everything. The only times he gets serious is when it involved Luke or Obi-Wan.
this is probably the closest we'd ever get to Starkiller pulling down a Star Destroyer in live action.
I know it will probably annoy people but Rey and Kylo did it first in Rise of Skywalker. (In Live action I mean, I know Starkiller and Legends Luke are way older)
@@junior523Ok. Done well.
@@junior523 If you’re referring to the scene in the desert, that wasn’t a Star Destroyer. That was just a regular transport ship. Star Destroyers are absolutely massive in size
Why do people keep saying this? He didn’t do it in the same sense as Vader. It was already falling down, he just redirected where it would crash.
Palpatine using a force lightning storm in Rise of Skywalker.
The extra ship suddenly materialized in an empty hanger bay.
Plot armor speaking, who knows what Kenobi was doing to obscure it with dust, the force, etc etc
@@goober8798 Yes, for all we know Kenobi pulled the ship out of his ass just like the writers did!
@@fvckingtest LOL
u can literally see another ship there
The other ship is there - it's just mostly hidden by the dust cloud. Pause at 0:11 and you can see it in the bottom right corner of the screen.
The force stamina argument is a good one but the more likely reason Vader did not pull down the second ship may not be because he is exhausted, but because he had already sensed the trap that Reva was about to try to spring upon him and readied himself for it. He even says it after he blocks Reva's sneak attack with the Force. "Obi Wan was wise to use you against me..."
Nah is just dumb writing, it would be better if he pull also the 2nd and as you said Reva tried to kill him
Umm... Most likely is that we already know that force for sith is enhanced by anger. Vader was bamboozled, hence he didnt have time to react and pull that anger again in such short time, so he just chose to leave it, take an L and chase them more by ship. He just pulled most impressive feat of force in star wars universe up to this point with pulling down that ship. It would be insane if he did it again half second later, like it doesnt cost him anything.
I’ve seen edits of this that make the whole scene flow so much better, goes like this:
- still has the decoy ship take off and he pulls it down and rips it open to see nobody there.
- second ship takes off and he stops it like the first one, struggles slightly but keeps it in place
- reva attacks him forcing him to break connection to the ship; letting it go.
Scene continues with reva fight
It shows he’s tired from the first time, it shows he is FORCED to let go of the ship instead of standing there like an idiot, finally makes reva slightly smarter for attacking Vader when he is distracted
The scene we got is due to bad screenwriting
No he WAS tired. Anybody who’s seen Star Wars knows using the force is extremely tiring. It’s why they’re not just using it all the time like some X-Men character, AND Vader is a crippled war veteran who’s constantly on life support. And even after he pulled it down, he was able to use the force to stop Reva’s attack. Just not pull another massive ship down.
@@TomGibson.Definitely much better writing here.
I love how Lord Vader could have easily stopped the actual ship just as well, but let them go, so he must have thought something like "Hah Kenobi u sly dog, classic Kenobi"
I find your lack of faith disburb jenkins
It's a force stamina thing. He expended so much effort fighting against the ship's engines that he needed to recharge, so to speak. This idea is explored in the game Fallen Order.
What a stupid comment, you really don't know Vader then or how the force works
No.
@@singularis9 You could have gone to something like Mandalorian, where we've seen the physical toll the force has on its users, but sure, reference arguably the worst part of Star Wars canon
0:27 The aggressiveness Vader shows ripping the ship open. 👌🏻🔥
get me the can opener
Because you needed a time marker in a 90 second clip....lol
@@dollarbuttit's actually 40 seconds, so even less
@@9ravecs I read that in James Earl Jones' voice
padme used to buy alot to replace spoilt panties
Imagine being so powerful with the force that you can't sense which ship they are on.
Imagine being the ex tutor from the monster and use a light variant from palpatine force cloak fog mixed with the goku ki technique of just diminish your ki (or force) for being incredible furtive
@@alexisvillarreal4789wtf are you on about?
To be fair to vader, the second ship literally wasn't even there to begin with.
@@S475-pb2dp Hold the fuck on I actually didn't even notice that and I've watched this over and over.
@@popisolation yup. No second ship to speak of. It kinda just materializes out of nowhere.
That was such a badass moment. This scene is probably my favorite Darth Vader scene. I was so excited to see him use the force to pull down a whole space ship.
its good but i think vader brutally kills the rebels is better
@@kahvalttabag1451 those are cool scenes, but how many times have you seen Darth Vader pull down a whole ship?
seriously...
@@powerage261 what seriously? This is one of, if not my favorite Darth Vader scene. Don't give me that if you disagree. I didn't say it was the greatest Darth Vader scene of all time.
@@ethane-dawgwenger4207 Never, because he can't do it. He didn't pull Falcon on Hoth or Tantive 4 in Rogue One.
I'd like to think that the real struggle Vader experience here is trying to keep his own body from breaking. The Force within him is still overwhelmingly potent, but it's like the water in a cracked jar that will break if you overfill it
Just as Palpatine planned intended....
i like how you said that, that fits perfectly
Vader: I will destroy you!
Obi-Wan: And I will read you like a damn book!
Well, God bless you sir and everyone else
0:37 That moment when you realized you could have easily gotten the kill.... if all your skills weren't all on cooldown.
Yo this comment is perfect 😂😂
@@dioremily21yeah it was stolen from the near identical comment a year previous.
Literally stole someone else's punchline
@@dar4061 oh dam
@@dar4061 it's the internet, kid. nothing's stolen. get over it.
Vader using the force whilst walking ,made that moment look so cool!
Probably added to the stress he used the force just to walk due to the suits incline
When it’s in the air, there’s no other ship behind it.
Exactly
Can literally see it in bottom right at 0:11
Remember, switching to your secondary ship is faster than disembarking.
Vader went god mode.
no he just went master mode
you are too easily impressed, if you concider that godlike!^^
@@mho... bruh it’s an expression
@mho... I mean I don't know many mortal men that could pull a spaceship down with their mind whilst it was flying away.
"No, no, get in this ship, and remote launch the other one - then we'll take off in this one when he's not expecting it."
"That seems overly unreliable and convoluted."
"But he won't be expecting it."
"It's Vader. You think you're going to fool Vader?"
This show was effing terrible
You gotta to remember the ONLY person who would fool Vader is Obi-Wan.
The number of people who like this scene is unsettling.
@@zizoumonk10 keep crying
@@petery6432 Boo hoo keep crying
Considering the fact he never showed the extend of his abilities or this much aggression in the originals is the good choice for the directors of this show to presentate his mental state during these moments in the show. He's facing someone from his past, someone who triggered his rage even in his injured form, someone who contributed in making his physical life miserable, someone he never beat even when his powers are far greater than. Plus the fact if the comics are to be considered canon, his cyborg form made his bond to the force interrupted and Palpatine also made sure his body parts are of bad quality thus making his life outside the bacta tank so irritating, he's been nerfed to the point he had to adjust his combat style to a passive mode. To go as far as pulling a ship down and ripping it apart. HE IS BEYOND FURIOUS IN THIS MOMENT
When Yoda lifted the X wing I thought that was sick, but damn this feat is 10x harder. This ship was in full throttle let alone it’s weight
The weight wasn’t as much of a problem since gravity was on his side
The scene where Yoda lifts the x-wing from the swamp hints at the potential of his power. Remember that at that time, Yoda was very old, and very near the end of his life. In his prime, Yoda could easily have performed a feat like this and likely brought down both ships with tiring much at all. The Dark side is in fact *weaker* than the light. But Yoda would never have done such a thing except under extreme circumstances to save lives.
Yoda was like a hundred+ years old lifting up a ship stuck in water and mud. Vader is in his prime, and was just trying to let gravity take it's course and make the ship fall. I'd say in his prime, Yoda was probably WAY more powerful than Vader.
@@Jamespennington71 hell no, not 'way'. would have been super close contest.
@@Jamespennington71he was about 900 years old
"Why didn't you pull the second ship?"
"Sorry bro, i was on cooldown"
to be fair that force exertion would tire you out. its canon that you cant use your full ability for ages
Weird how there's no second ship at 0:12 and then suddenly a big ass ship just takes off.
Its underground 💀
It's inside the ship 💀
Like how big cruise ships have small boats on board for emergency
It's at the bottom right
I swear do you guys have your brightness all the way down or something? You can easily see it in the bottom right.
This series finally lets you see the true power of Vader and makes him the badass we have always heard about but never seen
What is it called? *The series*
@@benness9145 Obi-Wan Kenobi
I would argue we got to see what Vader supposed to be first time in Rogue One, and this series makes it even better.
@@LaVitaNouvaI can agree with your statement.
Yeah and then he got totally nerfed at the fight Kenobi in the finale episode..
This was a massive "oh FUCK" moment.
The moment where the small ship takes off deserves a seinfeld laughtrack
good thing Han Solo was able to escape the Death Star in episode 4 and the Hoth base in episode 5 before Vader could close enough
@ℂ'𝕖𝕤𝕥 𝕊𝕚 𝔹𝕠𝕟! well sure I knew that but if you remember Han had Luke shoot the hanger door shut before Vader and Stormtroopers could make thier way towards them and that's why Obi Wans spirit told Luke to run to the ship
Vader: "hold my beer... on second thought, I'll only need 1 hand..."
and then, lost to a rusty obiwan. Yea, they always make him lose, despite he is way stronger in the force
Obi-Wan has always been represented as the quintessential Jedi. He is capable of devastating combat, but that is not the way of a Jedi, only a detour when necessary to protect life (“You grow too aggressive, Anakin. be mindful.”) As per his devotion to the Jedi Code, he is not assertive but passive, not combative but peaceful, not histrionic but thoughtful. It is all too easy, and inaccurate, to interpret this as relative weakness. In his cataclysmic fight with Vader, he knows better than anyone else who he is up against and the depth of his former padawan’s power, now enhanced by the Dark Side. That, coupled with the fact that I believe in that duel Vader believed he could humiliate and defeat Obi-Wan fighting on O-W’s own terms, i.e. like a Jedi. Rather than just Force-choke Obi-Wan and be done with it, I believe he wanted to prove that even fighting traditionally as a lightsaber-wielding Jedi he could defeat Obi-Wan. Only when it was clear Obi-Wan was holding his own and noting his “strength has returned” did Vader get frustrated and just buried him alive. What happened next was truly extraordinary, as there came a moment when Obi-Wan realized the Jedi way that defined him in the past no longer existed, and if he did not find another “way,” all would be lost, himself, the Skywalker children, and hope itself. So he let loose and tapped into his anger, his grief, and his passion, and after escaping from the pit literally came at Vader like a tiger. In that part of the battle you can see the fire and passion in Obi-Wan’s eyes. Gone is the cool, composed Jedi fighting discipline. In other words, the “weakness” that”still remains” as Vader taunted, was discarded. And Vader was utterly and completely unprepared for it.
Excellent analysis, agree 100% man
💯 true , this version of Obi-Wan would’ve been a handful for Mustafar anakin to handle
the JEDI way is FUBAR
The best explanation of Star Wars I have ever seen or " I will do what I must ."
Don't think anger had anyone to do with it. More like determination. Pretty sure Obi knew Vader would be able to know he was being attacked from behind too. Also notice how Obi makes it a point to only damage the mask.
If Obi wasn't holding back he could have hit harder or done a follow up attack. He knew he had to finally "face" anakin. Then... he wuses out and walks off on him again. Come on dude, that's why Vader is angry. Give up on others like that and it teaches people to give up on themselves.
Trust me on that this one. I get cowards to be brave by always facing them. So Obi walking off like that on Anakin AND Vader is showing "giving up". If that's the lesson that is taught it is the lesson that Vader learns. Until Luke comes along and never gives up on him.
I think my favorite detail in this scene is that you can see the burners on the jets give and fade a little soon as the ship is grabbed by the force, then go back to max burn throttle.
Animation details like that are always great
And that they even made the second ship invisible in the earlier shots
@@user-mb2yh9rq4fit’s there. You’re focused on the ship like Vader is so you don’t see it
cool scene, ridiculous escalation of force powers. Imagine how much weight and thrust in pounds he is holding back? LOL. With that much power he could kills 1000000s of people using a single force push.
I really hate the new lore saying Vader is stronger than Anakin. He’s literally barely alive. He by all accounts is weaker than if he was fully alive. I like to think the reason he can do things like this versus what he could do as Anakin is because… Anakin was in his 20s. Vader has a lot more experience with his power and can thus do more with it.
But I know new comics are saying he can even survive without the helmet if he’s angry enough. The reason I always liked him was his vulnerability mixed with extreme power. I just feel like we’re losing that.
Now Im surprised he didn't do that In episode 5 while Han and the gang were escaping from Hoth in the Millennium Falcon
OR..when the rebels escaped with the plans and with Princess Leia on board on a ship on Star Wars Rogue one at the end..it would've been important for Vader to do that.
A way to explain it is that he was not as in tune with his anger as he was here.
Well aside from the fact that that was just the second movie and the years of mythology didn't exist yet, he doesn't need too. Just let them go and track them again later. He's impatient here so he holds down the ship and makes it his personal mission. Original trilogy Vader is much more patient and uses other resources.
@@jolly7041 he let them go on purpose
@@jolly7041 This was just a small transport, not even as large as the Falcon, and Vader wasn’t able to pull it down without some real effort. Do you honestly believe he could’ve done the same to a ship the size of the Tantive IV?
I love the “nonono you come back here this instant mister” energy hes radiating
Anakin: *I don’t care put the ship down!*
Darth Vader: *Fine I’ll do it myself*
this scene, didnt surprise me, if everyone here has read the comics from Darth Vader, you know what he is capable of, but it is so fun to have it live for once.
Which I personally hate, and don't care to read because they fundamentally change Vader as a character
Morgana is cute.
I mean luke did this in training to get his ship unstuck i 110% knew vader was capable of this and so much more
0:17 C'moon
Jojo reference
@@suntzu3797you anime mfs need to get a life fr.
The way it just _stops_ immediately, no ifs or buts. Vader's not even breathing hard!
Just imagine vaders full power without his suit and injuries he's got? Scary shit! 💪😳
Fr
That would be like having Starkiller be Canon I guess
The suit and injuries feed his hatred which makes him more powerful.
@@davidbarker7938 yes but his connection to the force is limited.
@@davidbarker7938 his injuries also lowered his overall medichlorian count and basically killed most of his potential with the force which is why it's scarier to think about a dark side Anakin that never got chopped up and had his power level capped off early
Yoda would have been proud.
“There is no try”
Force powers getting out of hand. Meanwhile Lightsabers are getting nerfed.
Imagine him pulling it down a little and then releasing so that it goes full speed into a wall
Vader has such a strong connection to the force he pulled a fucking ship right outta the sky despite missing half of both his arms
Yup that was the scene. We all watched it.
@@jamesofallthings3684hahahahahahahaha
Really shows how you should NEVER underestimate Vader, he lifted A SHIP
i love how the other ship just appears behind the ship he pulls down
Im so confused. Was it invisible lmao
@@bernardoayres1139 yeah, obviously it wasn’t because vader didnt see it either lmao.
The extra ship was even there when Kenobi, Leia and the rest of the crew were boarding, let alone there the whole time when Vader was pulling down the decoy. You just have to pay a little more attention.
@@Phatooine you litterally see a clear shot of nothing else in the hanger when he's pulling the ship down, quit making excuses for bad storytelling and quit riding mickey mouse meat, over half the audience is done with Disney's Star Woke, look at the ratings for Andor and or season 3 of the Wo-mandolorian (the butch katan show)
@@Vectivuss Go back to your Trump cult! Star Wars and other woke companies don't want you to watch their content. Time to let it go and move on instead of being obsessed and becoming a stalker.
He realized his Uber Eats gave him the wrong chicken. "I asked for the dark side!"
This is power of the drake side
While every other Jedi struggles with force gripping rocks, this guy pulls ships out the sky. Next level
Dark side, ladies and gentlemen
@@woodonfire7406 Chosen one * LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
The ship that wasnt there a moment ago suddenly there.
Am I the only one who finds it impressive, that he did that only with one hand? Other force users need two hands to lift something heavy up.
Just imagine what Vader would have done to that ship, if he would have used two hands.
Technically he did it with no hands lol
This comment is wild out of context
@@saberfightguys damn…
I mean... using your hands is probably just a way to focus your will and concentration on something. It would not make much sense that the physical movement of your hand would have an impact on your ability to use the Force. That's why Anakin and later Vader would also be able to use the Force with robot arms.
BEHOLD THE POWER OF *2* HANDS! ua-cam.com/video/vmuAwxiSRgA/v-deo.html
Primal Vader is underrated asf. We never got to see his recklessness, that surging late 20's anger. Only refinement and patience.
And to think, forty years ago we thought pulling a lightsaber out of the snow with your mind was amazing .
“There’s always a bigger ship…”
Writers: I don't think a force user has ever demonstrated they can do this?
Disney: Just do it
"Pfft, that's not hard" -- Magneto
the magneto who couldnt even lift a paper a meter away
@@Helena-me6mp Yes because paper isnt metal. Hope this helps!
@@dude3278 thats what i meant? Imagine you can be beaten just by NOT being near something, vader doesnt have that problem
@@Helena-me6mp Yep Magneto was weak without metal, but Jean Grey is another story
This is what I need from star wars, some epic force shit. In force unleashed Starkiller pulled freaking destroyer from the orbit with the force, and it was the best star wars moment of all time...
Well SOMEONE woke up on the wrong side of the Bacta tank this morning...
0:05 did I say you could leave come back here >:(
The bell does not dismiss you, I dismiss you😂😂
The most ridiculous scene in the entire star wars universe.
I just love how he so casually throws his hand up like "No you don't." XD
His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far.
@Benson Caisip bro what
Then we have Galen Marek pulling down a whole Star Destroyer with the force.
I love how despite his hand twitching, he still only using one hand
In original
He chokes someone from another ship which is kilometers away
So if he's capable of a psychokinetic force of millions of lbs then why bother with all the lightsaber fights.
Episode 2 yoda vs dooku, Basically force vs force just kind of cancels them out unless the other one is significantly stronger,
And this entire series is how we got “He is more machine now then man, twisted and evil!”.
“Shit he’s getting the high ground, can’t let that happen again.”
Okay, people complain about this, but Vader has consistently just let people get away even in the original movies. This is very in character for him
Lol. It's said Vader is so powerful he actually ended the series after ROTJ and this is all a bad dream.
His power is near limb-itless
Finally only time I remember seeing this elsewhere was the force unleashed
Vader was so impressed by their craftsmanship that he couldn’t use his force abilities to pull them down.
At less than half of his original potential and with 1 hand 👏
Even Sith Lord cant ignore skill cooldown
I love how casually he does it, like he doesn’t even care or put any effort into the action.
Very powerful scene. I always wonder, why pull the whole ship while he can destroy the engines with 1/1000000 of effort...
Because show needs to happen :) Suspension of belief
Because then it might explode… if they just wanted everyone inside insta-dead they’d just nuke the whole place.
LOL..... Vader could bring down a ship and rip open the doors, but takes some effort to defeat an elderly Kenobi
One is a burned hot dog, the other isn't.
the ship doesn't have the Force to fight back with, bad comparison
1000% agree. Just bad license being taken by the writers / Disney. It's just dumb.
@@whitshane3511 keep crying
Bro is comparing a ship to a legendary jedi 😀🔫
Im getting a feeling this dude is an immortal fed up with life and decided to go all out.
Modern Star Wars is embarrassing. A never ending string of: "And then he uses his magic to do something even BIGGER!!!" . Bravo.
Technically ... someone gifted with the force could just control the thrusters and turn engine off...
Bro i dont even fw star wars like that but this has to be one of the coldest scenes in anything ever
If you wonder why he didn't pull down the other ship, it was because he realized the plot armor.
lol he realized that if he pulled that ship down, they would have just been in another ship the whole time!
no.. He was surprised and the ship was too far away too fast for him to be able to pull it down, even vader is only human...
@@olliegreen3446 u missed my joke
@@phantomias19 no i got the joke...
@@phantomias19 so funny😐
Not gonna lie i fangirled a little😂 they finally did him justice even though they barely show his true powers
Eh, his apprentice did it better. Galen pulled a star destroyer out of low orbit.
Magneto: "Hold my beer."
I do not think it was just a Vader "force stamina bar" that ran out. I think it was more he did not expect another ship beside it and by the time he saw it, it was too late to react to it as it took off and was too far away to pull down. That and it was not easy for him to bring it down in the first place, so he did need time to recover his strength.
"Recover his strength"... So you're saying his stamina bar ran out?
@@norsendeI think he did not expect the ship to come out of the other ship and yes, it, took a lot for him to bring down the ship. I think it was more the ship coming out of the other ship he did not expect, so he failed to react quick enough.
@@ricsim78 Um, the other ship was parked behind the other ship. You can see it sitting there the whole time, right from the start of the clip. It's the same ship that takes off.
@@etherealmistlcYou are correct, I realized what I wrote was wrong and corrected it. Thank you! I typed inside and meant "beside".
Gotta love how the second ship was invisible the whole time and only appeared to show vadar that its leaving. 😂😂
At this point with what Disneys done to Star Wars, the only thing that might be able to save the franchise is a Vader mini series with Hayden Christensen who’s been an absolute light in these let downs of shows. But they’d still probably find a way to screw it up
Who else got force unleashed vibes right here
Everybody went from the back of the ship to the front of the ship real quick.
He is powerful here, but peak Vader as told in trilogy decimating hidden Jedi probably sometime between this story arc and New Hope. Obiwan bested him here, but in New Hope both Yoda and Ben describe him as much more powerful and formidable in their memories.
If Vader had this power in the original trilogy, he would have used it to keep the Millenium Falcon from escaping from Hoth.
There were rules and limits to the force back then. Not anymore.
The originals were made in the 70’s and 80’s. They wouldn’t have had good enough technology to pull off effects like this.
Why? There are plenty of reasons he wouldn't.
@ that's not an in-universe reason to change his power level. They also didn't have the technology to convincingly have Darth Vader shrink and grow in size like Ant-Man back then either. Would it be justified if they gave Vader that as a new power now? After all, they can pull it off now, but couldn't back in the 80s. Point is, if you're going to choose to continue a previously established story, you should follow the set of rules already set down.
@ And yet you don't bother to provide a single reason he wouldn't. If Vader didn't want to catch the rebels, including Luke, Leia and Han, the latter two of whom who were in the Falcon, then why bother going to Hoth? He especially wants Luke, and even if he sensed Luke wasn't in the Falcon, catching Leia & Han lets him set a trap for Luke with Luke sensing their pain the same way he ends up doing when Boba Fett tracks them to Cloud City. It would have accomplished his goal just sooner and more efficiently.