So THIS is why Lahlah saw Amuro was too dangerous. Not because she foresaw him killing Char but rather because, she foresaw this peaceful ending if Zeon won the war instead.
She saw Amuro become the Earth Federation hunting hound who does everything as Earth Fed wanted. And Amuro did all the things perfectly to uphold Earth Federation supremacy. The movie and Animation didn't show how Amuro lived after the Fall of Titans. Specifically Mangas and LN, Amuro literally live in supervising luxury and only received EF propaganda information and high-ends in a 5-star hotel. That's why he did nothing during the time of peace and only move when the EF order him to.
@@hidefreek6905 Okay, now explain how that is _wrong_. You say EF-Propaganda, but I'd honestly more so proclaim that's just modern Gundam's take on continually shitting on EF as some sort of totalitarian regime when they are nothing of that sort. They aren't perfect but at least they aren't space facists whose minds lack any sort of imagination considering they always blame Earth for all their problems while not realizing... Well why the hell aren't they taking the colony and just going into deep space instead or anything more creative. No, it's all Earth's fault, those filthy Elitists who sit in dark rooms smoking cigars. 😁 Sorry, I just think a lot of stuff in Gundam is... really really stupid. Especially in modern takes where they continually try to turn Earth Federation into this despotic ruler while whitewashing Zeon like " _They're just misunderstood.._ 🥺 _They had to drop the colony and murder billions of people, it wasn't their fault.. Give them a chance.._ " and it's like... No. In Zeta, and as much as I hate Zeta, Amuro was certainly not living the high life at all. He was under constant surveillance and made to live in a cage more or less. That he, gets to live in fancy hotels and not have to worry, that tells me that they're doing anything they can to keep him happy to repent for their mistakes of the past. It's called showing that someone is valuable. But the way you phrase it which is probably the way they stupidly intend for, that Amuro is brainwashed 😠 Man why couldn't UC had ended with Char's counterattack for. It was the perfect conclusion by turning everyone into a Newtype. Beautiful, perfect...
Amuro: "There's no way I can beat that thing! If only it didn't have legs!" Char: "Good thing Lady Kycilia got the leg problem taken care of. Otherwise, I would probably spend the next 13 years fighting that guy and die in a dazzling green light.... That was way too descriptive."
Char: "And then, after I'm dead, some asshole with a pornstar's name would end up leading Zeon while imitating me. He'd probably end up fighting a Gundam named after a mythical beast, piloted by a kid who's only just been conceived...Seriously, why am I being so descriptive?"
"I forgot to mention, no little girls trying to flock to me so they could get into my pants, and being branded as Lolicon... Wait a minute am I being descriptive or what?"
Char: "Let's see... If I were to think of alternate universes: there would be a Gundam which would be named after a Demon. Too bad, the pilot died. His best friend died before him too. Another one is: there was this man in which he made peace with aliens. What a man! Did I just blurt those out?!"
Couple of things: 1. I like how the perfect victory is brought about by the Perfect Zeong. 2. Considering the possibility of Zeon using anything titled Gundam, that would all depend on how slick Anaheim Electronics' ad campaign was. 3. I personally like this outcome.
I think in the anime they mentioned the Zeong's incomplete legs to be no disatvantage, because they are fighting in space. The Neue Ziel in "0083 - Stardust Memory" had no legs at all, which symbolized the evolution of the Zeons to go further into space. This was later replaced in "Chars Counterattack", when Char's mecha used legs for hand-to-hand space martial arts. It is a bit ironic that the people who stood for mankinds future in space invented an "ultimate weapon" with legs in the first place.
I just realized something after rewatching the episode "Ramba Ral's Attack" which is the episode where Ral was denied his Doms by M'Quve for politics but was given them here. With Amuro locked in the brig for deserting, Sayla was piloting the Gundam at the beginning of the battle. So odds are that was Sayla getting crushed in the Gundam at the beginning. This perfectly explains how Kai and the rest of the White Base crew survived. They deserted so Ryu went out to get them. The Doms destroyed the Gundam and took out the White Base and with all his pilots either dead or away, Bright was forced to surrender. Without Amuro and Sayla participating in Operation Odessa, traitor general Elden was never exposed so he continued mucking things up for Federation forces and the Black Tri-Stars were free to fight on the front line instead of having to deal with Amuro. Operation Odessa fails and M'Quve continues his operations, all because he gave Ramba Ral the Doms he was suppose to. Amazing what one little act does.
This is a really interesting and totally believable explanation, besides one little thing... Amuro would more likely have been the guy who got crushed by the Perfect Zeong. Sayla (if she was piloting it in the episode you mentioned) would've been overwhelmed and attempted to fall back, allowing White Base to cover her. Amuro would've been alerted from the brig, and ordered to pilot it (besides Bright's better judgement). Sayla wasn't much of a braggart and wouldn't die over her pride, unlike Amuro, who thinks he has the sole right to pilot Gundam. Besides that little piece, it makes a lot of sense. To think Ramba Ral and Hamon may have lived and the war's outcome would have changed if only M'Quve had decided to let Ramba and his crew in on the secret. Stupid vase-loving coward.
Ivo Robotnik Yeah, I never realized that was a Perfect Zeong until recently. Still, this is the ending you get if M'Quve gives Rumba Ral the Doms so it sould be Doms destroying the Gundam. Still, the Federation did have other Gundams so maybe the one shown was a different one than White Base's? Your point about Sayla falling back is plausible but you must remember those Doms are speedy buggers and 3 Doms might be too much for Sayla to fall back. Maybe what happens is Sayla is killed in the Gundam by the Doms so Bright lets Amuro out and he pilots the Guncanon but he is promptly killed too and that causes Bright to surrender? Amuro & Sayla are the only members of White Base's crew not shown in this ending so that would explain what happens to them. Yeah, M'Quve's a total tool. I get why Kycelia picked her since he was loyal strictly to her and Dozle didn't care about the fighting on Earth, but you figure Gihren would have known M'Quve was a threat to his powerbase. My guess is Gihren figured once the Solar Ray was done no one could oppose him.
Yeah, dictators seem to get obsessed with their "wonder weapons", and fail to see that their chain of command is only as strong as their weakest link, bringing the whole thing down. I guess your re-evaluation does make more sense now. Maybe it was just my love for Sayla's character that I didn't think she'd die there, but the fact that that was a Perfect Zeong and not a DOM still did raise a flag. But that would make sense if both Sayla and Amuro died fighting off Ramba and his team in the DOMS there, leading Bright to surrender, having lost both of his best pilots. After this the Feds make another Gundam, but it probably didn't have a newtype piloting it, so he was no match for (I'm guessing) Char in that Zeong. Now my question is: where in the world is Char really? xD And for that matter, why didn't he get a DOM custom?
Ivo Robotnik I figure since Gihren's still alive that means Char isn't. Odds are after White Base went down before the Joburo Invasion then Char never meant Lalah, meaning he never bothered to build a new world for NewTypes so he went back to killing the Zabi's. We don't see Kycelia, Dozle, or Degwin so odds are Char offed them but I figure Gihren killed him after his relatives were assassinated. Heck, Gihren probably helped Char do the deeds before killing the Red Comet. Yeah, it always bugged me that Char never got a red DOM. He was one of Zeon's top pilots so he usually got a new Suit as soon as it came out (a Zaku 2, a Z'Gok, a Gelgoog, and the Zeong). I figure if the series wasn't cut down to 42 then he probably would have gotten one. Still, I did get a dark picture over what ever happened to Ryu Hayabusa. Since White Base went down during Ramba Ral's DOM attack I figure Ryu's "jumping onto White Base" ending like Thelma & Louise with him undershooting the Trojan Horse and crashing into a fiery death.
Hmm, I guess. I also found out Char has a custom DOM (sort of) in the shape of a Chinese bootleg Gundam 1/100 scale. It's pretty close to actual Bandai kits though, despite the obviously poor English. I thought about buying it, but then I watched the Gundam Factory video on GundamInfo (the channel) and I vowed never to buy a rip-off kit again.
With a win by Zeon, the UC universe may have survived even longer. I don't know if Jupiter would be a threat, but most of the later conflicts wouldn't exist. Feels wrong rooting for Zeon, but it seems like the best outcome
@@SabeNo-rh7mb Something people forget cause often Zeon is seen as "obvious bad guy" is that the Federation is a bloated bureaucracy that generally is rather bad in governing territories outside of Earth. The colonies circling Earth have a shit time at it. Where did all those supporters for independence come from? Side 3 wasn't the only source of it after all. People honestly felt the Federation just didn't have their interests in mind, made worse when in later years they would take extreme measures(LIke the Titans) To ensure the colonies were kept in line. Kai noted that having even a bit of property on earth already made Amuro "Among the elite" despite his family not really being all that wealthy. Zeon Daikuns ultimate wish was for humans to let the earth naturally heal itself and for humans to move on and continue their development and evolution in space. Degwin himself would note the Principality was ultimately just a means to a end and likely would of been discarded for a more favorable form of governance. This points were often forgotten cause virtually every successor movement of Zeon seemed to forget that former part in favor of full spacenoid independence and end up repeating the same shit the last group did.
@@googleuser7454 Gihren Zabi would have put all not spacenoid in extermination camps and dictated who between spacenoid would have reproduction rights... He is the Adolf Hitler of UC. Titans were fanatics born out of another petty would be dictator like Janitov who could attempt to democracy only because Admiral Reville died...
This completely ignores what Char would do next though. As Casval Deikun it wouldn't be hard for him to usurp the Zabi family using his father's name. He wouldn't have trouble gathering a resistance force either, he might even be able to get support from Anaheim.
Let's see, in this timeline: Federation loses and is effectively destroyed Zeon Remnants never come into play, so the Delaz incident never occurs (no operation: stardust) The Titans never come in to existence due to no Federation backing or catalyst of Operation: Stardust No AEUG No Gryps War No Haman remnants Char's counterattack may or may not still attempt to happen, but it's unlikely La+ incident never occurs, since the universal century charter isn't needed and Full Frontal is never created and even later events may not happen because there aren't the warring factions like canon UC. On a personal level Cima is never betrayed by Zeon remnants and doesn't become a Feddie contact Anaval Gato never goes insane with his rivalry with Kou, The Ple clones would either not exist, or not be forced into battle Lalah Sune likely survived and so on.
Considering the genocide of spacenoids in the first month of war, it's more likely they'll kill a few other billion people that are not satisfied with this outcome, until only Zeon remains.
I doubting there will be Anti-Zeon Organization by Federation Remnants or earthlings since they did Genocide to the people of earth. and char, he pretty much wanted to destroy zabi's. so he head other Plan. Neo Zeon Faction is created.
The Feds don't just lose, but they're effectively proven to be the true evil of the UC timeline. Under Gihren's rule, not only does the Earth recover from human pollution and the effects of war, but Humanity actually prospers, and the human popullation enjoys better standards of life. Basically, people have their eye's opened to the fact that the Federation was totally corrupt and out for their own gain, not the gain of the people(much like actual governments today).
I think he never lost his leg at all in this ending, as pretty much the objective to obtaining the Perfect Zeon ending is to alter all the events as told in the One Year War (Jaburo invasion successful, Garma isn't killed, etc). Of course it doesn't mean the end of the game as after this, Zeon now has to deal with the rise of the Titans under Scirocco, and the rebel Axis under Hamman.
There's just something... I don't know... creepy about this whole scene. It's like, yeah, the people are alive, and they seem somewhat happy, but it's a really creepy feeling to know Gihren and his giant space colony laser-ray of death are staring down at everything. Watching... Waiting... But, I guess seeing Anavel Gato alive and well makes it all worth it! xD
The scary thing here is that the only bad thing is Amuro being crushed. Shiro, Aina, and Kai get a sort of happy ending, and Gato dosen't go on as a guy fighting a lost war.
@@Fulcrox More like a fetish. Also because that "Gundam" is discolored (obviously one of the lesser-armored prototypes), and that specific scene is only shown if Sayla is the Gundam's pilot. Heck, also because Amuro [as both an experienced pilot & a more powerful Newtype than Char] simply wouldn't allow this to happen. ^ And also because the legs of the Perfect Zeong just make it a bigger target, somewhat slowing it down. It's not suddenly "better armor", and it's impossible for any physical weapon to crush Luna Titanium. ^ But this Gihren's Greed game was also from back in the 90's when the Gundam franchise was just getting popular again [in the U.S. even].
@@whiteraven1992the Perfect Zeong legs have built in trusters to counter the added weight of them, if anything it's way more balanced in movement than a flying torso.
Gihren Was the reason Zeon actually got as far as they did DURING the War. You cannot dismiss him as a Monster with out acknowleding that he was the Tactical Genius behind the scenes pushing the Zeonic Forces Forward. You cannot sit here and have it both ways, Zeon with out Gihren would have never fought the Earth to a stand still little alone begin to win the war. Gihren's Politics here are not on debate but his Military Prowess is half the reason Zeon came within Inches of Victory.
I went back and watched the Gundam movie and literally after Gihren was assassinated by his sister Kycilia did the entire A Bau Aku (sorry probably spelled the location name completely wrong) battle completely shift from the Zeon forces halting the federation fleet to becoming completely overrun. Gihren was a mad man attempting to create a dictatorship under the Zabi family in a misguided and evil attempt to create an ultimate race of people but there’s no doubt he was a tactical genius who pushed the Federation into a stalemate
So wait, if Zeon had won, then Gato would've remained a sane and respectable soldier, not to mention Aina and Shiro would've encounter one another in more favorable conditions (with the latter having all of his limbs)? Kinda wish there was at least an OVA of this idea...
+math77370 in what way ? seriously with all the tragedy that occurred as a result of the federation trying to subjugate the colonies, zeon winning the one year war is probably the least bloodiest outcome.
+Nick Graham Gihren Zabi himself said that he wanted to reduce human population. Wich means ! Genocide time ! After all zeon is better at killing civilians than politics
math77370 when did he say that? Earth's population was already unsustainable hence the reason humans moved into space colonies. So by the time the one year war kicked off Earth's population was already numbering only a few million.
@@TheKing-qz9wd How? He was only the protagonist of the original series and CCA. All other times, the UC timeline was the Char, Bright, Kamille, Judea, and Banagher show.
Eyow this ending is good, why? Regardless of that it's good to see some of the characters alive and even living without losing any body part or so. Cant wait to see how this goes further, will the titans be created? Will there be an alternative CCA instead of amuro leading the forces to push back the zeonic lead it's kamille or judau? How about the exam or alice systems and so on? The laplace? Hathaway's flash will be replaced by Quess or Gyunei? Will the Rafflesia from f91 be created, will the eff lead the crossbone vanguard? Will the victory gundam be different and instead katejina isn't insane and is living well with the others? That type of gundam alter story would be a great way to see
Hard to see how the Titans could be created if there's no Federation. Unless the Titans are instead "Federation remnants" who basically do a reverse Gundam 0083 on Side 3.
@@dark7element yeah they could make a federation remnant and so on following the storyline but instead seeing zeonic forces as the main villain it's the federation
Sounds like a good outcome Still, im not sure im comfortable that someone that refers to himself as a Follower of hitler to be crowned Emperor of earth
"Wow if Ghiren won the war, Humanity and everyone will be screwed. For a guy who wants to follow in a certain Dictator's footsteps." Ghiren's Greed: *Nah. We would all achieve Peace.* ".... Bruh. The math ain't mathing here."
Lol I used to have this game on PlayStation had to use a boot disk to play it. Couldn't understand a word but this was the Gundam game I always wanted. I remember you could do special events like the colony drop, or make Gihren give a speech, all sorts of events, then you had to upgrade your technology levels. If this had only been in english.
To be fair, by the end of the war it was already beyond the original limitations of the machine. the Magnetic Coating on the limbs pushed the bounderies of what the RX-78-2 could do, and Amuro had been pushed to become a godlike pilot of the OYW. It's sad but the Zeong actually surpassed the RX-78-2 in almost every aspect; Fire power, speed, Armor. The only reason Char lost in an MS fight was because Amuro had surpassed Char as a pilot, and because the Zeong never got any test flights for fine tuning.
ZeroSonaku Amuro hadnt truly surpassed Char as a pilot at that point, his new type abilities might have overcome Char's but in a realistic situation , they were more or less evenly matched. Even by the time of Char's counter attack Amuro isnt able to just onsidedly destroy Char, even tough the specs of the Nu gundam far outdo the Sazabi
+Skoll Rodriguez Late reply, but The Nu Gundam was weaker than the Sazabi by alot during that movie. The fact that it wasn't fully complete shows that. Amuro was easily the better pilot through out Gundam.
Literally space magic is the reason he wins. The nu gundam is a machine with superior systems and albeit incomplete still superior to the sasaby. Amuro spends majority of the time getting carried by his machine or his new type abilities. Chars new type powers are really minor.
+Skoll Rodriguez No Joke you look at all the mechanical data, and the weapons themselves The Nu Gundam is inferior. Nu's output 2980 kW Sazabi's 3960 kW Nu Gundam only has two beam sabers Sazabi has two beam sabers, and a Beam tomahawk Nu one beam rifle, and a small shield beam gun Sazabi a beam rifle that has a regular mode and a shotgun mode, and a waist cannon Nu has less thrust, and acceleration While the Sazabi has high amounts of thrust High acceleration Not counting the armor since the Sazabi is a beast. The Sazabi could take on the Unicorn Gundam if need be. Amuro is a better pilot. That even shows during the last part of the movie when Amuro basically beats the hell out of Char.
If Zeon won easily, Anaheim would never gotten ahold of Zimmand and the Zeonic Company and their warmongering wouldn't have been able to incite conflicts for the decades following the One Year War.
That's probably why this is the happy ending. Anaheim isn't there to stoke up wars between space colonists and earthlings. Zeonic probably absorbed them, or Gihren eradicated them.
yeah, the perception of the force in the origional trilogy is mirrored in the portrayal of newtype powers. never really explained how they work, so its all mysterious and adds a mystic element to the sci-fi genre
All I saw in this video was Zeon sending people into space by force, taking politicians hostage, doing propaganda, building a statue of Gihren and asking peoples the fact that they murdered 4 BILLION INNOCENTS and the fact that they have a giant orbital death laser, 2 if you consider the mass driver
and all it takes is one more great commander (player) to give them the extra edge. and ironiclly none of the future events will take place. even if we do get a Neo EFSF who is going to be in it? a bunch of no name pilots. Kamille fought becasue of the titans..who will not exist. and they only existed becasue of a neo zeon group, and even Judau fought because of the neo zeon group axis...soo i dunno any important character that will fight..I kinda like the zeon ending...its actually happy.
Its true that the neo zeon were of no threat to their own people, but after other groups such as the Crossbone Vangard, The Jupiter empire and the Zanscare empire, started to show up, I think the Republic of zeon saw the benifit's of being part of a larger organization, and if this join up occured before all of the groups showed up know that a link between both peoples would ensure a higher chance of peace, as well as prosperity due to a shared trade of supplys and military aid.
@ WatcherPrime: I agree, but I love Zeon b/c the characters associated with them agree with me more than the Federation. But I like both sides and the entire series as a whole. I just prefer Zeon over the Federation. ^_^ But you are right that both sides have done their share of wrong doings. Makes for an awesome show. lol
Hmm... so if Zeon had won outright in 0079, then all that crazy crap afterwards would've been avoided? Huh. That's... mildly worrying somehow. Epic memorial with all the mobile suit statues. I would so go there.
I don't believe you. Every woman with red or even pink hair in the Tomino UC shows ends up dying, except Mineva Zabi, because I guess killing an 8 year old girl is too far for even him.
What sort of world is this, where Shiro Amada can climb ladders!? Ah, man, this would make an amazing side-universe of UC if Tomino were to take hold of this.
Gihren was really the only evil Zabi, and even then, he wasn't too bad before he went all "Spacenoids are the chosen race!". Char on the other hand destroyed a nation based on a personal grudge, which he had no evidence to base on, and then ultimately champions the same psychotic Ideology Gihren had at the end of the war: Devistate the Earth to save it from the useless eaters. What made Zeon so popular among the Spacenoids were the ideas of freedom, self determination, and economic prosperity because the Federation had robbed them of that. Even people loyal to the Zabi's fought for the AEUG.
Char didn't "destroy a nation". Char always wanted Zeon to win the war. I very much doubt him killing Garma had much impact on the war, certainly not enough to outweigh the massive damage Char did to the Federation forces. As for killing Kycilia, that was when the war was already lost for Zeon and literally hours away from ending.
@HailZeon57 According to the book and movies, Darcia is actually the PM of Zeon. He probably wouldn't have been in that line up; he was on good terms with Degwin, and in fact tried to help him in opening up communications with the Federation before A Baoa Qu, so Gihren would probably want to get rid of him as soon as possible.
@mortesensibile i know i know, it just sort of still fits. i mean regardless of era, rules are still constantly broken by the men who wrote them. obviously the intent of gundam was just a re-setting of ww2, however it's points are valid even today. Or rather it's plot is based around how the world works, we simply keep trading one evil SOB dictator for another
Starting either a Neo Zeon faction to depose Ghiren or AZUG from Federation remnants and disaffected Zeon (good luck since Ghiren is *THE* good guy here)
Heh Most of those casualities were civilians on Earth or in the Sides being destoryed, The federation launched Nuclear Weapons at side five or Loum due to them getting their fleet ripped to shreds, their top general kidnapped and in the end they still lose after splitting the atom. Zeon used nuclear and chemical weapons and of course the infamous colony drop used in British which leveled Sidney, However placing all the blood on Zeon's hand's incorrect and a portion of the loss were military.
By itself true, but if you consider the possibility of char's neo zeon in this timeline teaming up with whats left of the federation, then the scales would be balanced at the very least.
lol federation lost so bad and plus with this situation there won't be several wars in the future like the events of z zz gundam and char's counterattack so the zeon victory isn't so dam catastrofic as it was intended to be
Hu...... No. Even if the federation lost the war there would have been a lot of guerilla and Neo-Federation movement, so it would be a reversed 0083 and Z and ZZ
federico filippini GG has three stages. OYW, Gryps/ZZ and CCA. The conflicts still happen, the only difference is that catasthropic events of Z/CCA wouldn't have happened. Since you won, Delaz remains part of the principality, no chance of 0083.
@WolfFawkes Most normal people don't respond to a family members death with racial cleansing. And considering the Zabi's opened the One Year war by killing millions of civilians by gassing colonies...I'm not sure I'm really all that inclined to think of them as a poor misunderstood family trying to deal with tragedy.
Ouch, that was a painful start. Smashing the RX-78 like that... But, seeing that everyone is living happily ever after... I can't complain that much right? At least the war is over...
Mark Simmons' translation of the official 52-episode MSG plan. Among other things, there'd be more mobile suits and so forth. The major ending events would be the same, though.
I know that they are not really nazi's, but honestly there is so much that remind's me of them, the firearm designs, the hitler salutes and the radical devotion to the cause that they all have, but I suppose that your somewhat right in regard's to the fact that they are not really like the nazi's in there motive's and beliefs.
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Gato: Thank God Zeon won. I wouldn't have to sleep with a crazy woman for three years.
Who was the crazy woman
@@azizkalb8721 Nina Purpleton
Or crash a damaged mobile armor into an enemy war ship in a last ditch ploy.
Why do you think Nina was crazy? What did she do?
Go all we know, he left her because he join the war efforts.
@@randomv3iwer she save gato
So THIS is why Lahlah saw Amuro was too dangerous. Not because she foresaw him killing Char but rather because, she foresaw this peaceful ending if Zeon won the war instead.
I mean considering the Titans and Neo Zeon and all the way to Victory, it seems like Lalah wasn't wrong
@@googleuser7454 A Zabi Family Dictatorship saved the Earth Sphere. Jacques Bossuet was right all along.
She saw Amuro become the Earth Federation hunting hound who does everything as Earth Fed wanted.
And Amuro did all the things perfectly to uphold Earth Federation supremacy.
The movie and Animation didn't show how Amuro lived after the Fall of Titans.
Specifically Mangas and LN, Amuro literally live in supervising luxury and only received EF propaganda information and high-ends in a 5-star hotel.
That's why he did nothing during the time of peace and only move when the EF order him to.
@@hidefreek6905 Okay, now explain how that is _wrong_.
You say EF-Propaganda, but I'd honestly more so proclaim that's just modern Gundam's take on continually shitting on EF as some sort of totalitarian regime when they are nothing of that sort. They aren't perfect but at least they aren't space facists whose minds lack any sort of imagination considering they always blame Earth for all their problems while not realizing... Well why the hell aren't they taking the colony and just going into deep space instead or anything more creative. No, it's all Earth's fault, those filthy Elitists who sit in dark rooms smoking cigars. 😁
Sorry, I just think a lot of stuff in Gundam is... really really stupid. Especially in modern takes where they continually try to turn Earth Federation into this despotic ruler while whitewashing Zeon like " _They're just misunderstood.._ 🥺 _They had to drop the colony and murder billions of people, it wasn't their fault.. Give them a chance.._ " and it's like... No.
In Zeta, and as much as I hate Zeta, Amuro was certainly not living the high life at all. He was under constant surveillance and made to live in a cage more or less. That he, gets to live in fancy hotels and not have to worry, that tells me that they're doing anything they can to keep him happy to repent for their mistakes of the past. It's called showing that someone is valuable. But the way you phrase it which is probably the way they stupidly intend for, that Amuro is brainwashed 😠
Man why couldn't UC had ended with Char's counterattack for.
It was the perfect conclusion by turning everyone into a Newtype.
Beautiful, perfect...
Gihren: "Wow, not being an asshole worked out pretty well for me."
Same, same.
The only that would say that is The Gihren that already died
Just imagine Hitler Germany without his ethnoracial issue...
I get to see my boys Kai and Shiro being happy? This game's awesome.
bernie still dead?
Hold on didn't shiro have a happy ending
Well he got happy ending but the sacrifice is his leg
@@seangillespie7124 kinda did even tho he lost a leg
Amuro: "There's no way I can beat that thing! If only it didn't have legs!"
Char: "Good thing Lady Kycilia got the leg problem taken care of. Otherwise, I would probably spend the next 13 years fighting that guy and die in a dazzling green light.... That was way too descriptive."
Char: "And then, after I'm dead, some asshole with a pornstar's name would end up leading Zeon while imitating me. He'd probably end up fighting a Gundam named after a mythical beast, piloted by a kid who's only just been conceived...Seriously, why am I being so descriptive?"
"I forgot to mention, no little girls trying to flock to me so they could get into my pants, and being branded as Lolicon... Wait a minute am I being descriptive or what?"
takuya imotasih え？
Char: "Let's see... If I were to think of alternate universes: there would be a Gundam which would be named after a Demon. Too bad, the pilot died. His best friend died before him too.
Another one is: there was this man in which he made peace with aliens. What a man!
Did I just blurt those out?!"
@@Vali_Z4ne yes
Couple of things:
1. I like how the perfect victory is brought about by the Perfect Zeong.
2. Considering the possibility of Zeon using anything titled Gundam, that would all depend on how slick Anaheim Electronics' ad campaign was.
3. I personally like this outcome.
I think in the anime they mentioned the Zeong's incomplete legs to be no disatvantage, because they are fighting in space. The Neue Ziel in "0083 - Stardust Memory" had no legs at all, which symbolized the evolution of the Zeons to go further into space. This was later replaced in "Chars Counterattack", when Char's mecha used legs for hand-to-hand space martial arts. It is a bit ironic that the people who stood for mankinds future in space invented an "ultimate weapon" with legs in the first place.
@@alfonszitterbacke318 Char realized that you kinda need legs to do the "Char Kick", nevermind that that didn't come about as such in CCA.
I love Bright's face towards the end, he has this perfect, "welp, this is f'd up, now ain't it." while looking at the Gihren shrine or whatever.
It is pretty bitter to me having Bright stare at Gihrens statue and have a genuine sense of disappointment over how things went.
@@bacchusendo9032but, he has a happy family with Mirai, hopefully w/o a son that becomes a terrorist!
Yeah, after what Bright went through...I understand why he's acting this way.
That is not Gihren,that zeon dekun
And literally everything could have ended so beautifully ...
If zeon win
@@giornogiovannatheultimateb8553and did not commit warcrimes like in the anime. This zeon is not anime zeon
@@saitoren4061 you can commit few war crimes in this game.
@@saitoren4061 and still gets perfect victory.
I just realized something after rewatching the episode "Ramba Ral's Attack" which is the episode where Ral was denied his Doms by M'Quve for politics but was given them here. With Amuro locked in the brig for deserting, Sayla was piloting the Gundam at the beginning of the battle. So odds are that was Sayla getting crushed in the Gundam at the beginning.
This perfectly explains how Kai and the rest of the White Base crew survived. They deserted so Ryu went out to get them. The Doms destroyed the Gundam and took out the White Base and with all his pilots either dead or away, Bright was forced to surrender. Without Amuro and Sayla participating in Operation Odessa, traitor general Elden was never exposed so he continued mucking things up for Federation forces and the Black Tri-Stars were free to fight on the front line instead of having to deal with Amuro. Operation Odessa fails and M'Quve continues his operations, all because he gave Ramba Ral the Doms he was suppose to. Amazing what one little act does.
This is a really interesting and totally believable explanation, besides one little thing... Amuro would more likely have been the guy who got crushed by the Perfect Zeong. Sayla (if she was piloting it in the episode you mentioned) would've been overwhelmed and attempted to fall back, allowing White Base to cover her. Amuro would've been alerted from the brig, and ordered to pilot it (besides Bright's better judgement). Sayla wasn't much of a braggart and wouldn't die over her pride, unlike Amuro, who thinks he has the sole right to pilot Gundam. Besides that little piece, it makes a lot of sense. To think Ramba Ral and Hamon may have lived and the war's outcome would have changed if only M'Quve had decided to let Ramba and his crew in on the secret. Stupid vase-loving coward.
Ivo Robotnik
Yeah, I never realized that was a Perfect Zeong until recently. Still, this is the ending you get if M'Quve gives Rumba Ral the Doms so it sould be Doms destroying the Gundam. Still, the Federation did have other Gundams so maybe the one shown was a different one than White Base's?
Your point about Sayla falling back is plausible but you must remember those Doms are speedy buggers and 3 Doms might be too much for Sayla to fall back. Maybe what happens is Sayla is killed in the Gundam by the Doms so Bright lets Amuro out and he pilots the Guncanon but he is promptly killed too and that causes Bright to surrender? Amuro & Sayla are the only members of White Base's crew not shown in this ending so that would explain what happens to them.
Yeah, M'Quve's a total tool. I get why Kycelia picked her since he was loyal strictly to her and Dozle didn't care about the fighting on Earth, but you figure Gihren would have known M'Quve was a threat to his powerbase. My guess is Gihren figured once the Solar Ray was done no one could oppose him.
Yeah, dictators seem to get obsessed with their "wonder weapons", and fail to see that their chain of command is only as strong as their weakest link, bringing the whole thing down.
I guess your re-evaluation does make more sense now. Maybe it was just my love for Sayla's character that I didn't think she'd die there, but the fact that that was a Perfect Zeong and not a DOM still did raise a flag. But that would make sense if both Sayla and Amuro died fighting off Ramba and his team in the DOMS there, leading Bright to surrender, having lost both of his best pilots. After this the Feds make another Gundam, but it probably didn't have a newtype piloting it, so he was no match for (I'm guessing) Char in that Zeong.
Now my question is: where in the world is Char really? xD
And for that matter, why didn't he get a DOM custom?
Ivo Robotnik I figure since Gihren's still alive that means Char isn't. Odds are after White Base went down before the Joburo Invasion then Char never meant Lalah, meaning he never bothered to build a new world for NewTypes so he went back to killing the Zabi's. We don't see Kycelia, Dozle, or Degwin so odds are Char offed them but I figure Gihren killed him after his relatives were assassinated. Heck, Gihren probably helped Char do the deeds before killing the Red Comet.
Yeah, it always bugged me that Char never got a red DOM. He was one of Zeon's top pilots so he usually got a new Suit as soon as it came out (a Zaku 2, a Z'Gok, a Gelgoog, and the Zeong). I figure if the series wasn't cut down to 42 then he probably would have gotten one.
Still, I did get a dark picture over what ever happened to Ryu Hayabusa. Since White Base went down during Ramba Ral's DOM attack I figure Ryu's "jumping onto White Base" ending like Thelma & Louise with him undershooting the Trojan Horse and crashing into a fiery death.
Hmm, I guess.
I also found out Char has a custom DOM (sort of) in the shape of a Chinese bootleg Gundam 1/100 scale. It's pretty close to actual Bandai kits though, despite the obviously poor English. I thought about buying it, but then I watched the Gundam Factory video on GundamInfo (the channel) and I vowed never to buy a rip-off kit again.
So basically, Zeon winning the OYW would've been the good ending compared to the current state of the Universal Century.
*The Federation would've never founded the Titans in this timeline*
So wait, who were the real bad guys here?
With a win by Zeon, the UC universe may have survived even longer. I don't know if Jupiter would be a threat, but most of the later conflicts wouldn't exist. Feels wrong rooting for Zeon, but it seems like the best outcome
@@SabeNo-rh7mb Something people forget cause often Zeon is seen as "obvious bad guy" is that the Federation is a bloated bureaucracy that generally is rather bad in governing territories outside of Earth. The colonies circling Earth have a shit time at it. Where did all those supporters for independence come from? Side 3 wasn't the only source of it after all. People honestly felt the Federation just didn't have their interests in mind, made worse when in later years they would take extreme measures(LIke the Titans) To ensure the colonies were kept in line. Kai noted that having even a bit of property on earth already made Amuro "Among the elite" despite his family not really being all that wealthy.
Zeon Daikuns ultimate wish was for humans to let the earth naturally heal itself and for humans to move on and continue their development and evolution in space. Degwin himself would note the Principality was ultimately just a means to a end and likely would of been discarded for a more favorable form of governance. This points were often forgotten cause virtually every successor movement of Zeon seemed to forget that former part in favor of full spacenoid independence and end up repeating the same shit the last group did.
@@googleuser7454 Gihren Zabi would have put all not spacenoid in extermination camps and dictated who between spacenoid would have reproduction rights... He is the Adolf Hitler of UC. Titans were fanatics born out of another petty would be dictator like Janitov who could attempt to democracy only because Admiral Reville died...
Zeon would have been good if Zeon Deikun’s beliefs were actually followed. The zabis were shit
と言う夢を見たのだ。
ｂｙ.ギレン・ザビ
夢オチかw(*´ω`*)
キシリアに頭を撃ち抜かれる刹那に見た夢やった
デギン・ザ・グレートのアレか・・・（笑）。
つまんな
パーフェクトジオングがガンダムを踏み潰すとは・・・ジオン戦勝の象徴的映像だな
パーフェクトジオングが出てきたらアムロもアレックスに乗ってるんだろうなぁ(白目)
？？？
「アイアム、チャンピオン(^^)」
ヒイロと化した何か アレックス下手くそビッチのせいで壊れたやん
@@走りすぎたランニング王子 NT専用機で反応速度が違うんだよｗ
マッケンジー士官学校主席で卒業してるバケモンだぞｗ
@@ななし-p1k2p 確かにそうだけどマッケンジーをクソビッチ呼ばわりされたのがちょっとねw
実戦とシュミレーターじゃ違うのは重々承知してますw
まぁコロニー内だったから下手に動けないってのも要因の一つかと
Shiro and Aina are like the perfect couple. They end up together and happy no matter what the outcome of the war.
yep 😀
Makes sense, since they both have deserted.
When a time traveler kicks a rock
As unlikely as it is, I would like to see a Super Robot Wars game that takes place after this hypothetical "What if Zeon won?"-timeline.
Man I wish there were subtitles to all these Gihren's Greed videos.
This completely ignores what Char would do next though. As Casval Deikun it wouldn't be hard for him to usurp the Zabi family using his father's name. He wouldn't have trouble gathering a resistance force either, he might even be able to get support from Anaheim.
I'm not sure, but reaching the ending probably requires dealing with exactly that.
なるほどこれが歴史的特異点ってやつですか
Let's see, in this timeline:
Federation loses and is effectively destroyed
Zeon Remnants never come into play, so the Delaz incident never occurs (no operation: stardust)
The Titans never come in to existence due to no Federation backing or catalyst of Operation: Stardust
No AEUG
No Gryps War
No Haman remnants
Char's counterattack may or may not still attempt to happen, but it's unlikely
La+ incident never occurs, since the universal century charter isn't needed and Full Frontal is never created
and even later events may not happen because there aren't the warring factions like canon UC.
On a personal level
Cima is never betrayed by Zeon remnants and doesn't become a Feddie contact
Anaval Gato never goes insane with his rivalry with Kou,
The Ple clones would either not exist, or not be forced into battle
Lalah Sune likely survived
and so on.
I doubt Lalah survived
Considering the genocide of spacenoids in the first month of war, it's more likely they'll kill a few other billion people that are not satisfied with this outcome, until only Zeon remains.
@@DerpEye Considering this is the "Good Guy" Zeon ending, that's unlikely.
I doubting there will be Anti-Zeon Organization by Federation Remnants or earthlings since they did Genocide to the people of earth. and char, he pretty much wanted to destroy zabi's. so he head other Plan. Neo Zeon Faction is created.
The Feds don't just lose, but they're effectively proven to be the true evil of the UC timeline. Under Gihren's rule, not only does the Earth recover from human pollution and the effects of war, but Humanity actually prospers, and the human popullation enjoys better standards of life. Basically, people have their eye's opened to the fact that the Federation was totally corrupt and out for their own gain, not the gain of the people(much like actual governments today).
I think he never lost his leg at all in this ending, as pretty much the objective to obtaining the Perfect Zeon ending is to alter all the events as told in the One Year War (Jaburo invasion successful, Garma isn't killed, etc). Of course it doesn't mean the end of the game as after this, Zeon now has to deal with the rise of the Titans under Scirocco, and the rebel Axis under Hamman.
There's just something... I don't know... creepy about this whole scene.
It's like, yeah, the people are alive, and they seem somewhat happy, but it's a really creepy feeling to know Gihren and his giant space colony laser-ray of death are staring down at everything. Watching... Waiting...
But, I guess seeing Anavel Gato alive and well makes it all worth it! xD
Indeed, This kind of feels like the Nazis winning in the newer Wolfenstein series of games
we also have like that its called nukes
@@tenkuken7168 This is exactly what happened if only one country has nukes.
the funny thing is that this ending ultimately requires Gihren to *not* be a Nazi in practice.
@@t26e44 That's the Good Ending
The real villain faction in UC is Anaheim Electronics
The scary thing here is that the only bad thing is Amuro being crushed.
Shiro, Aina, and Kai get a sort of happy ending, and Gato dosen't go on as a guy fighting a lost war.
That's Sayla, actually. If that was the actual Gundam, crushing it would be impossible.
@@whiteraven1992ah, the Perfect Zeong can totally crush the Gundam, also why would be Sayla?
@@Fulcrox More like a fetish. Also because that "Gundam" is discolored (obviously one of the lesser-armored prototypes), and that specific scene is only shown if Sayla is the Gundam's pilot. Heck, also because Amuro [as both an experienced pilot & a more powerful Newtype than Char] simply wouldn't allow this to happen.
^
And also because the legs of the Perfect Zeong just make it a bigger target, somewhat slowing it down. It's not suddenly "better armor", and it's impossible for any physical weapon to crush Luna Titanium.
^
But this Gihren's Greed game was also from back in the 90's when the Gundam franchise was just getting popular again [in the U.S. even].
Who would have thought that killing an autist was the solution to world peace?
@@whiteraven1992the Perfect Zeong legs have built in trusters to counter the added weight of them, if anything it's way more balanced in movement than a flying torso.
Gihren Was the reason Zeon actually got as far as they did DURING the War. You cannot dismiss him as a Monster with out acknowleding that he was the Tactical Genius behind the scenes pushing the Zeonic Forces Forward.
You cannot sit here and have it both ways, Zeon with out Gihren would have never fought the Earth to a stand still little alone begin to win the war. Gihren's Politics here are not on debate but his Military Prowess is half the reason Zeon came within Inches of Victory.
Another reason why whatever happens in unicorn makes no fucking sense whatsoever, plot and canon-wise
I went back and watched the Gundam movie and literally after Gihren was assassinated by his sister Kycilia did the entire A Bau Aku (sorry probably spelled the location name completely wrong) battle completely shift from the Zeon forces halting the federation fleet to becoming completely overrun. Gihren was a mad man attempting to create a dictatorship under the Zabi family in a misguided and evil attempt to create an ultimate race of people but there’s no doubt he was a tactical genius who pushed the Federation into a stalemate
Nah, Zeon would only lose slower had Gihren survived Kycilia's attempt. Zeon's already on the back foot.
What a Delazian
So wait, if Zeon had won, then Gato would've remained a sane and respectable soldier, not to mention Aina and Shiro would've encounter one another in more favorable conditions (with the latter having all of his limbs)? Kinda wish there was at least an OVA of this idea...
That'd be horrible, because that alternative timeline is fucking teriffying
+math77370 in what way ? seriously with all the tragedy that occurred as a result of the federation trying to subjugate the colonies, zeon winning the one year war is probably the least bloodiest outcome.
+Nick Graham
Gihren Zabi himself said that he wanted to reduce human population. Wich means ! Genocide time ! After all zeon is better at killing civilians than politics
math77370 when did he say that? Earth's population was already unsustainable hence the reason humans moved into space colonies. So by the time the one year war kicked off Earth's population was already numbering only a few million.
well as far as i know, this depends if the player doesn't do the things Ghiren do best, then you get this ending the not asshole zabi route
平和なら支配者は誰でも構わない。
自分がその平和の敵にさえならなければ。
Notice that everyone was happier with Zeon winning. Maybe all the bad stuff happened because Amuro lived.
So, Amuro was a Jinx then!?!? 🤣
Amuro was the problem all along. He hogged the plot armor.
@@TheKing-qz9wd How? He was only the protagonist of the original series and CCA. All other times, the UC timeline was the Char, Bright, Kamille, Judea, and Banagher show.
@@SabeNo-rh7mb
Alright, it wasn't my best joke.
@@TheKing-qz9wd Don’t take it so seriously. I wasn’t. 😂
ギレンが本当にこうするのかなぁ・・・キシリアと内ゲバしまくってそうだし
二年前のコメントに返信するのもアレだが抵抗する勢力は粛正の中にキシリアもいたんじゃないかね。
@@reika8282
キシリアはイベントで逮捕しておかないとゲームオーバーになりますからね
そのまま闇に葬られたか・・・
Agreed At least the Zabi's wanted to keep the Planet as a province.
Char wanted the largest mass grave in the history of the species.
ガトー少佐が墓地で敬礼するシーンで、この戦いはジオンも連邦も大きな犠牲を払ったのだと思い知らされます・・・
どうか、彼らの眠りが安らかであることを
Lol Bright looks unhappy. Wonder of he'd still be unhappy knowing his son wouldn't be executed now.
The best ending for Shiro and Gato
Yeah! Gato Don't Have To Sleep With That Woman And Shiro Be Happy With Aina And Still Have His Leg!!!
Would be cool if they made this into a series of its own
damn, even in this alternate timeline Shiro gets the lady
He was a lover not a fighter.
そして最後にキャスバル・レム・ダイクンが乗っ取る。
ザビ家を滅ぼした後は人類がNTに進化するまで待つとか言ってそう
This seems more like a happy ending coming from a evil faction
lmao at a JC Denton avatar not being able to recognize the Federation is evil
シローとアイナの幸せな光景が見れただけで私は幸せです
Eyow this ending is good, why?
Regardless of that it's good to see some of the characters alive and even living without losing any body part or so.
Cant wait to see how this goes further, will the titans be created? Will there be an alternative CCA instead of amuro leading the forces to push back the zeonic lead it's kamille or judau?
How about the exam or alice systems and so on? The laplace? Hathaway's flash will be replaced by Quess or Gyunei? Will the Rafflesia from f91 be created, will the eff lead the crossbone vanguard?
Will the victory gundam be different and instead katejina isn't insane and is living well with the others?
That type of gundam alter story would be a great way to see
Hard to see how the Titans could be created if there's no Federation. Unless the Titans are instead "Federation remnants" who basically do a reverse Gundam 0083 on Side 3.
@@dark7element yeah they could make a federation remnant and so on following the storyline but instead seeing zeonic forces as the main villain it's the federation
@@dark7element according to what is on TvTropes on this game, this is actually what happens.
食いかけのリンゴ渡すなよww
程よい力で管理しないと人類は衰退する一方だと
この映像のジオンの勝利を見て確信した
So, apparently, the one in the RX-78-2 is Sayla.....
You killed your li'l sis, Master!! :'((
The alternative what if ending of the One Year War.
That's never happen in the anime TV and/or movie series.
Sounds like a good outcome
Still, im not sure im comfortable that someone that refers to himself as a Follower of hitler to be crowned Emperor of earth
AEUG will not exist and replaced with AZUG
シロウ、 、アイナに食いかけのリンゴ渡すなよ、、、
シローとアイナの場合は別の未来になっても幸せ路線になると思う
A perfect victory for a perfect ending
"Wow if Ghiren won the war, Humanity and everyone will be screwed. For a guy who wants to follow in a certain Dictator's footsteps."
Ghiren's Greed: *Nah. We would all achieve Peace.*
".... Bruh. The math ain't mathing here."
最初のガンダムが踏み潰されるところがショック過ぎた…。
実はプロパガンダの映像ってことにされそう
そうじゃねーの？
なんかプラモ狂四郎かビルドファイターみたいな壊され方だしね。
ジオンもプロパカンダ映像をサンライズに任せずに、ガイナックスあたりに外注すればもっとリアリティのあるプロパカンダ映像になってたかもねｗ
アムロ逃げてそうorシャアが何か考えて逃がしてそうで・・・
あんな核融合炉詰んで中身ギッシリなMSが簡単に潰れてたまるかw
踏み潰した足持って行かれそう()
@@jm4257 それねｗ ダグラムの「倒れただけで爆発」並みに酷い描写だｗ
そも足つきにしたらガンダムに余計勝てなさそう。 ジオン自体は勝っても、シャア戦死してそうだ(笑)
I never played the Feddy disk, because Feddies are busters.
Lol I used to have this game on PlayStation had to use a boot disk to play it. Couldn't understand a word but this was the Gundam game I always wanted. I remember you could do special events like the colony drop, or make Gihren give a speech, all sorts of events, then you had to upgrade your technology levels. If this had only been in english.
man it's sad to see the RX78-2 gundam get squashed like it was nothing
To be fair, by the end of the war it was already beyond the original limitations of the machine. the Magnetic Coating on the limbs pushed the bounderies of what the RX-78-2 could do, and Amuro had been pushed to become a godlike pilot of the OYW. It's sad but the Zeong actually surpassed the RX-78-2 in almost every aspect; Fire power, speed, Armor. The only reason Char lost in an MS fight was because Amuro had surpassed Char as a pilot, and because the Zeong never got any test flights for fine tuning.
ZeroSonaku Amuro hadnt truly surpassed Char as a pilot at that point, his new type abilities might have overcome Char's but in a realistic situation , they were more or less evenly matched. Even by the time of Char's counter attack Amuro isnt able to just onsidedly destroy Char, even tough the specs of the Nu gundam far outdo the Sazabi
+Skoll Rodriguez Late reply, but The Nu Gundam was weaker than the Sazabi by alot during that movie. The fact that it wasn't fully complete shows that. Amuro was easily the better pilot through out Gundam.
Literally space magic is the reason he wins. The nu gundam is a machine with superior systems and albeit incomplete still superior to the sasaby.
Amuro spends majority of the time getting carried by his machine or his new type abilities. Chars new type powers are really minor.
+Skoll Rodriguez No Joke you look at all the mechanical data, and the weapons themselves The Nu Gundam is inferior.
Nu's output 2980 kW
Sazabi's 3960 kW
Nu Gundam only has two beam sabers
Sazabi has two beam sabers, and a Beam tomahawk
Nu one beam rifle, and a small shield beam gun
Sazabi a beam rifle that has a regular mode and a shotgun mode, and a waist cannon
Nu has less thrust, and acceleration
While the Sazabi has high amounts of thrust High acceleration
Not counting the armor since the Sazabi is a beast.
The Sazabi could take on the Unicorn Gundam if need be.
Amuro is a better pilot. That even shows during the last part of the movie when Amuro basically beats the hell out of Char.
"Perfect Victory"
Casval: "O RLY? NOT WHEN I'M AROUND"
0:47 EVA「あなたの記憶には残りたかったんだと思う、」
Wow. It seems that if Zeon had won things would have been great. What a shame that it couldn't be this way.
If Zeon won easily, Anaheim would never gotten ahold of Zimmand and the Zeonic Company and their warmongering wouldn't have been able to incite conflicts for the decades following the One Year War.
That's probably why this is the happy ending. Anaheim isn't there to stoke up wars between space colonists and earthlings. Zeonic probably absorbed them, or Gihren eradicated them.
yeah, the perception of the force in the origional trilogy is mirrored in the portrayal of newtype powers. never really explained how they work, so its all mysterious and adds a mystic element to the sci-fi genre
See? Zeon is right thing!
All I saw in this video was Zeon sending people into space by force, taking politicians hostage, doing propaganda, building a statue of Gihren and asking peoples the fact that they murdered 4 BILLION INNOCENTS and the fact that they have a giant orbital death laser, 2 if you consider the mass driver
+math77370 to forget the fact that*
To be fair the Earth Federation murdered just as many people, indiscriminate launching of nuclear weapons is kind of a bad thing for either side.
During the OYW, when did the federation massmurdered civilians
?
Ironically the Zabi’s seem less tyrannical than the military junta run Earth Federation/Titans
That's because the Zabis at least aim for legitimacy while the Titans and the Feddies are just a military junta.
and all it takes is one more great commander (player) to give them the extra edge. and ironiclly none of the future events will take place. even if we do get a Neo EFSF who is going to be in it? a bunch of no name pilots. Kamille fought becasue of the titans..who will not exist. and they only existed becasue of a neo zeon group, and even Judau fought because of the neo zeon group axis...soo i dunno any important character that will fight..I kinda like the zeon ending...its actually happy.
That great commander also needs to be able to set other zeon policies and ...basically mind control Gihren till he's no longer recognizable AS Gihren.
Its true that the neo zeon were of no threat to their own people, but after other groups such as the Crossbone Vangard, The Jupiter empire and the Zanscare empire, started to show up, I think the Republic of zeon saw the benifit's of being part of a larger organization, and if this join up occured before all of the groups showed up know that a link between both peoples would ensure a higher chance of peace, as well as prosperity due to a shared trade of supplys and military aid.
独裁者のギレンが勝った方が、不正が多い地球連邦政府よりも平和だったという皮肉
You know... I can't help but think that Gihren is piloting the perfect zeong.
How?
Indeed.
Aww even put the memorial for the earth federation. he isn't such a bad guy after all. little power hungry but still a nice guy
Hey, they have a Gundam G-3 at the One Year War Memorial... thats awesome, and an Elmeth too!
@ WatcherPrime: I agree, but I love Zeon b/c the characters associated with them agree with me more than the Federation. But I like both sides and the entire series as a whole. I just prefer Zeon over the Federation. ^_^ But you are right that both sides have done their share of wrong doings. Makes for an awesome show. lol
The original manga, Amuro did died to Char in his Perfect Zeong while using the RX-78-3.
1:11にザク？ズゴックE エルメス居るのは分かるけどなんでガンダム ガンタンク ジムが？？？
戦勝記念のモニュメントじゃなく、
両軍の慰霊のモニュメントなんじゃね？
ギレン
｢お前達もまた、優良な人種であった…｣
Hmm... so if Zeon had won outright in 0079, then all that crazy crap afterwards would've been avoided? Huh. That's... mildly worrying somehow.
Epic memorial with all the mobile suit statues. I would so go there.
0:35 that is actually Gihren's girl.....You know Tomino liked Gihren because he made his girl a redhead. Redheads are what Tomino is into
I don't believe you. Every woman with red or even pink hair in the Tomino UC shows ends up dying, except Mineva Zabi, because I guess killing an 8 year old girl is too far for even him.
@@ProphetoftheMachines Cecily didn't die, lot of the love interest are redheads in gundam. yes they do die
それから何十年かそれぐらいでシャアの反乱が起きそう
ミズキレント ほんとだ！ありがとうございます！
よく僕も打ち間違えちゃうんですよ
ミズキレント ほんと助かりました笑
RISONOSIN いきなりどしたの？
ですよたける あーなるほど。
『水を差すようで悪いけど、』ほんと悪いわ。気持ち悪い笑
So in the end, Gihren is such a "nice guy" all along😅😅😅
Yeah...
1:06 First major conflict ended on 0080, January 1st.
0:46 The War of Stardust will began until three years.
(0083, October 18th-November 10th.
So kou kill by gato?
What sort of world is this, where Shiro Amada can climb ladders!?
Ah, man, this would make an amazing side-universe of UC if Tomino were to take hold of this.
Gihren was really the only evil Zabi, and even then, he wasn't too bad before he went all "Spacenoids are the chosen race!". Char on the other hand destroyed a nation based on a personal grudge, which he had no evidence to base on, and then ultimately champions the same psychotic Ideology Gihren had at the end of the war: Devistate the Earth to save it from the useless eaters. What made Zeon so popular among the Spacenoids were the ideas of freedom, self determination, and economic prosperity because the Federation had robbed them of that. Even people loyal to the Zabi's fought for the AEUG.
Char didn't "destroy a nation". Char always wanted Zeon to win the war. I very much doubt him killing Garma had much impact on the war, certainly not enough to outweigh the massive damage Char did to the Federation forces. As for killing Kycilia, that was when the war was already lost for Zeon and literally hours away from ending.
ミハルが生きていて何か嬉しいな。
0:55～ 食べかけのやつ渡すのかwww
先にコロニー落としで50億人抹殺しといて戦乱を未然に防いだは草なんだよなぁ
勝てば官軍
zeon when they won against EFSF.
unicorn: *disappeared from existence*
Ah act according to some novels
Unicorn can create alternate timelines
@HailZeon57 According to the book and movies, Darcia is actually the PM of Zeon. He probably wouldn't have been in that line up; he was on good terms with Degwin, and in fact tried to help him in opening up communications with the Federation before A Baoa Qu, so Gihren would probably want to get rid of him as soon as possible.
So... if Gihren had his way, the world would have its happy ending? Lol.
Hail Zeon! They seriously need to make an english version of Gidren's Greed
@mortesensibile i know i know, it just sort of still fits. i mean regardless of era, rules are still constantly broken by the men who wrote them. obviously the intent of gundam was just a re-setting of ww2, however it's points are valid even today. Or rather it's plot is based around how the world works, we simply keep trading one evil SOB dictator for another
The other U.C storylines changed tremendously. Zeon wins no Delaz Fleet, no Titans, no Neo Zeon. Real question what would happen to Char?
Build his own zeon to for revenge
Starting either a Neo Zeon faction to depose Ghiren or AZUG from Federation remnants and disaffected Zeon (good luck since Ghiren is *THE* good guy here)
Heh Most of those casualities were civilians on Earth or in the Sides being destoryed, The federation launched Nuclear Weapons at side five or Loum due to them getting their fleet ripped to shreds, their top general kidnapped and in the end they still lose after splitting the atom. Zeon used nuclear and chemical weapons and of course the infamous colony drop used in British which leveled Sidney, However placing all the blood on Zeon's hand's incorrect and a portion of the loss were military.
0:47 YOOOOO MASTER OF PUPPETS.
0:41 Kai: _'ight imma head out_
at 00:48 it is horiffic to see just how many solders of only zeon lost their live in th war and gato is there too just seeing it
By itself true, but if you consider the possibility of char's neo zeon in this timeline teaming up with whats left of the federation, then the scales would be balanced at the very least.
個人的にはガルマのストーリー【UA-camオリジナルストーリー】が一番好きだな
lol federation lost so bad and plus with this situation there won't be several wars in the future like the events of z zz gundam and char's counterattack so the zeon victory isn't so dam catastrofic as it was intended to be
Hu...... No. Even if the federation lost the war there would have been a lot of guerilla and Neo-Federation movement, so it would be a reversed 0083 and Z and ZZ
+math77370 and in gihren's greed threat of axis Char rebels and create Neo zeon anyways
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federico filippini GG has three stages. OYW, Gryps/ZZ and CCA. The conflicts still happen, the only difference is that catasthropic events of Z/CCA wouldn't have happened. Since you won, Delaz remains part of the principality, no chance of 0083.
Well, at least there's not gonna be any Zanscare or Cosmo Babylonia.........
@WolfFawkes Most normal people don't respond to a family members death with racial cleansing.
And considering the Zabi's opened the One Year war by killing millions of civilians by gassing colonies...I'm not sure I'm really all that inclined to think of them as a poor misunderstood family trying to deal with tragedy.
治世が安定してさえいれば、独裁制だろうと民主制だろうと、人は幸福になれる。
違いがあるとすれば、皆の努力によるか、一人の傑物の手腕によるものかの違いだけ。
独裁は悪ではない。致命的な欠陥を孕んではいるが、どちらでも人々を幸せにはできる。しかし独裁を望む民は愚かである
This would set the stage nicely for Char to start a civil war.
ガトーほんとかっこいい
Ouch, that was a painful start. Smashing the RX-78 like that...
But, seeing that everyone is living happily ever after... I can't complain that much right? At least the war is over...
and i am happy kai got his happy ending with that spy.
He seemed like a traitor but atleast Zeon wasn't one of those Purely evil empire's in most anime like this.
Mark Simmons' translation of the official 52-episode MSG plan. Among other things, there'd be more mobile suits and so forth. The major ending events would be the same, though.
I know that they are not really nazi's, but honestly there is so much that remind's me of them, the firearm designs, the hitler salutes and the radical devotion to the cause that they all have, but I suppose that your somewhat right in regard's to the fact that they are not really like the nazi's in there motive's and beliefs.
They are closer to Zionism
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