A Japanese fellow converts to Islam, and 100 years later, his grandchildren claim to have roots in Arabia. Really? It dient change their faith, but they are Japanese not Arabs. Why is this complicated.
because european colonizers intentionally try to MAKE it complicated in order to hide the truth that the natives they are wiping out are probably much closer relatives to the ancient Hebrews than they will ever be
It is relevant on two levels: - Khazars can't accuse everyone of been "antisemitic", including Arabs who ARE Semites, when they themselves are not. - the claim about a legendary "land of the fathers" becomes even more ridiculous when none of your ancestors were from there or even lived there.
The root word Semite is like Caucasian. It means people who speak a similar language and live in the same area. All white people aren't from the Caucasus mountains, and the ones who are didn't travel about Eurasia like just about everyone else. Anti-Semitism is a deliberate inversion, it referrers to mostly Europeans.
Funny I’m Palestinian and I did a DNA test and it’s 98% Levantine 2% Arabian peninsula. I can trace my lineage in falasteen 1600 years back. We are the indigenous PERIOD whether they like it or not
OK, but what if another Palestinian, who, unlike yourself, can trace their lineage in Falasteen only 200 years back, does a DNA test and the result shows that they are 70% Turkish and 10% Kurdish and 10% Albanian and 9% Bosnian and 1% from the Arabian peninsula, and the vast majority of their ancestors arrived in Falasteen during the Ottoman period? Would you then say that that person is less Palestinian than you are? Would you say that that person has less right to live in Falasteen than you have?
Palestinians and Ashkenazi Jews are ultimately Greek descent. One by way of the Mediterranean to Syria and Turkey. The other by way Mediterranean to Western Europe and Nordic Europe. Same DNA. Jewish, Islam and Arab isnt a race. Its a religion and culture.
@@markmarshall5234 That's just a guess, nothing real. Have you found a single Palestinian with that genetic makeup?. What happens to the “israelis” who neither have roots in the Middle East nor in Falasteen and their DNA takes them back to Europe 2000 years because they are Europeans converted to judaism 1000 years ago.
It does matter when people are using their claimed ancestory to claim the right to a land which you colonise & remove people who have inhabited the place for millennia, it very certainly matters!
They weren't required to leave, they rejected the partition plan and allied with the Arabs who told them to evacuate so they could conquer the region. But they lost, FAFO.
This is such a stupid argument. Consumer DNA tests don't measure ancient ancestry, they measure genetic relation to modern reference populations - when Ashkenazim take a consumer DNA test, it just identifies their DNA as Ashkenazi. It doesn't say anything about this issue. In any case actual DNA studies have long debunked the Khazarian hypothesis.
makes even bigger sense when you consider Zionism's roots is not in the bible, but in European colonialism of the 19th century. Palestine wasn't even their first choice, they were considering Uganda before. They didn't care about the bible and religion and DNA roots and anything like that, they were secular settlers from Poland, Germany, Belarus etc. coming to Palestine to claim the land off the indigenous population. pretty simple. This is the material reality we need to focus on, not made up stories and idealistic pretentions
100%!!!! I say they are colonizing liars. Who stole the land from the REAL Jews... And furthermore the original Hebrews are actually from the Americas and are copper colored.
@@xxxmikeyjockI was also thinking about Madagascar and how it probably would have been far more preferable to Uganda. That could have been a potentially beneficial situaiton for the Ashkenazi Jews and the world. Too bad it didn't work out.
@mattmacintosh4678. Good points and also the parallels between Zionism and Nazism are similar. There’s the shared theory of racial superiority and both groups had a vested interest is displacing Jews outside of Germany; Poland, Russia and other Eastern European countries. Nazis were occultists while many Zionist were and still are atheists. They shared the common goal of securing a “Jewish state “for the Jews. This is not synonymous with a homeland.
“ it’s not antisemitic. It’s just a question of fact “. Very powerful line that needs to be used A LOT more considering the games that are being played while Izzreal commits genocide
Even if they really are the original settlers of the land. It was their great9 grandparents who settled there. If my grandmother is originally from Germany & she move to America at some point. I should have no rights to go to Germany & confiscate other people's property. Millions of Americans with German ancestry should not have the right to steal German lands. The argument that they were the original settler shouldn't even be brought up at the first place because it's irrelevant.
Amazingly, you don't know German history-Hitler called upon all German emigres to return to the fatherland for war - their fundamental duty as a member of the Germanic tribes.@@secrets.295
@@Cbevly I know. But even if hypothetically speaking they are the descendants of the settlers of the land. That still doesn't give them the right to steal land & private properties.
He's essentially saying it's true, but doesn't matter. Except that it does when making a historical claim to the land of Palestine. Khazar's were simply not there 2000 years ago and have no claim, regardless of "culture".
Even if it was true that they left 1.5 to 2 millennia ago, it's absurd to claim that you have an ancestral right when other people have been living continuously in the region since then. Chomsky has said the same thing before.
that also doesn't matter because you trying to say who lived there first owns the place. ALL those arguments are essentially irrelevant, as no one has produced a receipt signed by GOD for any land on this GLOBE all arguments are mute. Sure many books n stuff, but non of the books have actually been penned by God from cover to cover-either, sure many HUMAN assertion about receiving the "word" of God, funny always in THEIR favour mmm curious that one. No one has a RIGHT to any LAND, least over anyone else. End of discussion. The rest is a HUMAN construction, a loose legal framework, created to "make-it-so". Force does not equal right that is important here. BUT men are simple beings and very very very immature, the ego feeds possession, and they need a tribe to wave a flag. What can I say...its all CRAP, and MAN has made it so. Solution = all nations are illegal, all armies illegal, all weapons illegal, now try and live in peace. BUT BUT BUT...I can't explain how bored I am with HUMANS unbelievably simple retards.
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
In 2006, Shlomo Sand's The Invention of the Jewish People stirred up controversy over its claim that most modern day Jews do not share an "unbroken genealogy," and are the descendants of Khazar converts to Judaism who originated from the north Caucasus region.
So if there's no ancestral connection to the children of Israel what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousands of years old. I agree with Dr Chomsky if the issue is cultural identity or religion but if your claim is ancestral, and it is, the claim is baseless without the ancestry.
The basis of zionist claim on the land is just money & power, then comes the lies after them, they created a lie and forced it on the world, there's no way Jerusalem and Nazareth were empty for thousands of years, this land always had her people and I don't think they looked like Netanyahu, jews belong to whatever country they came from to Palestine in the 20s century
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America). •1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
Lol he knows Ashkenazi have nothing to do with the original Jews and tries to play it off like it doesn’t matter when in fact it’s an extremely important detail.
GOOD All these intellectual fakes do is obfuscate facts, I'm talking about Chomsky, Harris, Peterson and all the rest (every single one of them). I say good because, I see too many people here getting wet for his intellect and it's the same thing elsewhere. People depend on the words of a wise men like they're in middle ages, like they cant read and research in this age.
And we really cannot have you or you're sort of people glossing over what's going on now in the present looking back to the bible bla bla is not working.
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk Yvette, nobody said anything about the Bible. We're talking documented history and genealogy. Many things in the history of the state of Palestine are public record and it fully supports our position. So I have no idea what you're on about. It sounds like you're going off pure emotion. Facts do not care about your emotions and whoever made you that emotional (Mainstream Media) None of you people can ever come up with any intellectual coherent position on why you're right, are you trying to keep it a secret or something?
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk What exactly are we glossing over? How does anyone talking about historical facts mean that we're glossing over anything? If you really thought that, then you should've pointed out exactly what we're "glossing over". If you can't say exactly what, then it's you who is glossing over and therefore you're just projecting your bullshit onto us
The bottom line is the imposters occupying the Holly land are not the Chosen People of the Bible but they are referred to in the scriptures revelation 2:9 and 3:9
They were not referred to in any so called scripture. They're mostly slavs. This was a well orchestrated plot by Europeans to control asia. Napoleon wanted palestine to become part of france.
I remember not so long ago you could not say that on YT with out getting a strike or flagged..Now that they exposed themselves to the world I guess they cant police the speech now.
Read acts 7:43 lol… it tells you whom they are there. 6 points 6 triangles 6 sided hexagon = ✡️ aka the “star of Remphan” their god molek. They stoned Stephen for revealing them then. And crucified Isho for revealing who they were while He walked among us. The “tares among His wheat”.
In 1943, Abraham N. Polak (sometimes referred to as Poliak), later professor of the history of the Middle Ages at Tel Aviv University, published a Hebrew monograph in which he concluded that the East European Jews came from Khazaria.
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
@@derekpmoore The Khazars converted to Judaism and interbred with the Jews in exile.This is like 50/50 Horse & Chicken Salami: one horse, one chicken, one horse, one......
@@millereladwhat do you mean by israelites? The people from the Bible? Then I would agree, as the Jews who have always lived in the region are according to a Genetic Science site* said the Jews, Palestinians & Kurds are "closer than cousins"... *sorry I don't have a link, as I can't find the article I read about 9 or so years ago.
The Thirteenth Tribe is a 1976 book by Arthur Koestler, in which the author advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkish people.
Not theory it is biblical scriptural Gen 10:3 Japheth -> Gomer -> Ashkenaz ( *i* ) *Meaning: Current Caucasians jews are Not genetically from Shem (orientals), Not from Abram, Issac, Jacob (Israel)* These real jews should be people of Oriental from East, and in history came, their forefathers mixed with Ham line in mesopotamia. (eg Joseph patriarch marry Egyptian princess, African black) etc. Result: Real genetic Jews are now all black looking pf Asian decent (Shem decent) but they lost their identities, one day in 666 world civilization, the future Elites will genetically find them and make sure these African looking Asian of Abram, Issac, Jacob line shall stay in own respective countries... Not moving or immigrate to Israel Palestine. Future in 666 world civilization, there will be an Israel Palestine with different people live in harmony, peace, without walls (opposite of now, bloodshed, evils, walled) And end of 666 world civilization, Gog shall lead world to Jerusalem land with people living in peace, country without walls... Then Armageddon, day of Lord etc. & starting Millennium 1,000 years of peace.
After 2024 Nov US election, US take the developed world naval powers to war Humongous fleets.. NWO world level plan. Wars wars wars, society unrest unending Brokenaall forms of relationship 5 decades from ~2023 Then occult rukers shall bring out the Mark Lateinos 666 put in UN charter for world 6 decades from ~ 2023 666 world civilization will be established Mystery Babylon the Great shall fall... 10 toes... UN 10 permanent security council seats shall take over for awhile
It Matters a lot! When there are millions of people claiming that a land belongs to them because their ancestors lived there 1000s of years ago. Then we need to investigate if they are really the people, they claim they are. Otherwise, these fanatics will take the world into another world war.
If they are Khazars or not wont change those in power now that want to push their expansionist agenda. I doubt evidence with change their present plans. But perhaps evidence can help convince many others, especially the growing Israeli population that is against the apartheid and expansionism. I can see his point here. Not that it doesnt matter to claims. But that it has been 75 years and whether they are actually descendant from ancient Judah or not will not affect the reality of a present occupier group being present that wont be leaving anytime soon.
Genetic studies on Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi Jews in 1999 revealed that the DNA structures gave results close to those of Turkish Khazar origin, not to Jews of Israeli origin.
The Khazar Empire (Turkish: Hazar İmparatorluğu) was an empire formed by a Turkish nomadic people who controlled the steppes of Central Asia and the northern side of the Black Sea from the seventh to the 10th centuries.
Khazar Jews (Turks) came from the Caucasus and spread through Eastern Europe and Western Europe. In this case, the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic and this has major implications for anti-Semitism and Zionism. The Khazars are not the original Jews from Samaria and Judea of the Old World but Turkish converts from the Caucasus.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history. Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery. The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted. To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
I think of the quote from the Wako guy David Karesh. Something to the effect of, "when the people find out how long they have been lied to, they will revolt with blood running in the streets."
Arthur Koestler wrote the book The Thirteenth Tribe. Surely the argument they have a right to the land cannot be maintained if they have no dna connection to Judah. Otherwise anybody could claim to be Jewish and have a right to it. We have so many whites claiming aboriginal heritage Iin Australia with its financial benefits.
Some DNA evidence does not put Ashkenazi in the Levant. Anybody can cook up DNA evidence. Some racist even claim Ancient Egyptians were not black African despite tons of eye-witness evidence from the Ancient Greeks who actually saw them. People will twist facts to suit their own political agendas. The racist apartheid system in South Africa argued that the white settlers landed in the region same as the blacks. It is a game!
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
Listen I'm an arab but I advice not to be fool 1920s is totally different with nowadays poisnes you jew are way civilised and intellectual and our tyrants brainwashed us with this backward shit Islam and they live with their families in the western countries so in order to keep us prisoners of our own minds they build a lots of mosques and religious schools
Every human on earth shares over 99.9% of their DNA. It’s a dumb point to make. It’s cultures that define us and Palestine is just as guilty if not more so of demanding genocide as Israel. “From river to sea” as they say… if Arabs won in 1966 Jews would have been driven into the sea. Just as Turkey how that works.
Zionists abuse the science of genetics to serve their settler colonial agenda (See Nadia Abu El Haj, The Genealogical Science: The Search for Jewish Origins and the Politics of Epistemology). Today's Jews are converts and are not the decendants of the ancient Hebrews. The evidence is overwhelming (See The invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand & The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler). Also, you can simply look at Jews faces, Ashkenazi look White, Mizrahi look Middle Eastern, Beta look Black, Morrocan Jews look Morrocan etc.
the zionists are supremacist colinisers hell-bent on power they don' really care about peace and coexistence they want absolute control and domination over land, air and sea in this territory and will not even tolerate the existence of Palestinians in their own homes and land
Professor Dean Phillip Bell, who is dean and professor of Jewish history at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago: “Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West. Despite regional variations and high medieval political instability, in medieval Islam multicultural environments, combined with active engagement in sciences and literature, led to something of an Islamic golden age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments that the once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam have been seriously questioned.” Dean Phillip Bell, Jews in the Early Modern World. New York, 2008, p. 25.
It matters when said people consider themselves "chosen by God" to "return" to "Is-Ra-El". One can't exactly return to some place they've never been. Furthermore, just look at the Israeli government, they are 99% Ashkenazi.
Noam Chomsky is correct that human beings create cultural histories of themselves which can in no way diminish their rights as human beings. So too with the Khazar story. It does not matter whether it is historically accurate or not. However, when a people use a cultural history to produce a God-given right to displace another people from their homeland in order to realize a state of their cultural creation then that cultural invention does need to be exposed - not as an anti-Semitic enterprise but as a protection of the rights of innocent Palestinians who have had nothing to do with Jewish experience, history, and identity. Israeli contempt for the humanity of the Palestinians has become the essence of contemporary evil and Netanyahu has become the face of that evil. There are so many noble voices in Israel who know and protest against it. But their voices are drowned out and the US which sees itself as the pre-eminent moral voice of the world has chosen to be complicit in drowning out these voices. Chomsky's voice can still redeem the US if it chooses to listen to him.
The irony is it's the Palestinians who are the descendants of the ancient Jews. Their ancestors converted to Christianity under the Romans and then to Islam under the Arabs.
Not sure what point you are making here. Are you saying the Khazar question is important because: If modern Jews are descended from Khazars then modern Israel is a cultural invention, not a god-given right and it needs to be exposed to protect the rights of Palestinians; but If modern Jews are descended from ancient Israelites, then modern Israel is a god-given right , not a cultural invention and there is no need to protect the rights of Palestinians. This is different from what Chomsky is saying, which is "We should protect the rights of Palestinians, regardless of who modern Jews are descended from, so the Khazar question is irrelevant".
I don't think the US ruling class concerns itself with morality at all. (Which it wouldn't know anyway.) As warmonger Kissinger said, "We have only interests." Any talk of morality is mere justification for the exploits of empire.
@@wmyst1797 Israel a God given right? 🤣 That is jewish propaganda...we are all equal in God's eyes. Isn't it the jews that had Jesus Christ crucified? You all killed his son and Israels' god given right is eternal hatred.
@@wmyst1797orthodox Jewish people all over the world protest for the rights of Palestinians. They believe that God expelled them from that land and there is no right of return. The Zionist movement has nothing at all to do with religion - it’s a land grab and is now geared up for ethnic cleansing and genocide
AWARE THAT ITS ANTI-ISRAEL PROPAGANDA? THE FACT ITS A LIE AND HAS BEEN DISPROVEN COUNTLESS TIMES IN MODERN DNA TESTS IS EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, GO READ SOMETHING.
this is the logical answer for a person who has no problem with reason, but this doesn't concern today's zionist jews who have mixed two totally opposite theses that normally can't be associated and they seem to have no problem about it. Of course they have, and it leads them to lots of delusional problems and their need to use terrorism when they are confronted to the utter non-sense of their theories, in order to crush the controversies they cannot give a logical answer to.
So when you have a religious group that tends to intermarry within themselves and were largely segregated from the surrounding population, it becomes a lot easier to understand. Of course anyone who knows anything would already know this. You don't know this, but you feel comfortable acting like an authority on the subject. Why is that?
Why don't they just take a challenge against the Palestinans?,.., Stand in front of the sun. The indigenous one is the one who are more suitable for this hot climate..
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
many israelis look part or more european compared to arab or mediterranean, and is arguably seen in persistent pro israeli, vs neglect of palestinian, bias out of europe itself... is like they enjoy rubbing their biases in the faces, if ppl who had nothing to do with it..
no. it's totally irrelevant. We cannot, simply as a practical matter, recognize such claims, even if the genetic link to 2000 years ago is there. Chomsky agrees with this. (for one, what about the people there from before the Jews? It says in the Torah that the Jews took the land and killed them all.) It's totally absurd. Humanity would not SURVIVE such claims being recognized, so recognizing them cannot be the moral thing to do!
This is a wonderful admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria and does not indicate a “historical right to the land of Israel”. Thus, they must share the land with its original inhabitants. What a wonderful step toward peace!
@AlMaksiki The Mizrahi Jews have lived in the Levant and adjacent areas for thousands of years and about 50 percent of the Israeli Jewish population are Mizrahi Jews ✡️ and its obvious that you don't know the history of the Jews that that lived in Poland and Russia.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. But I hope you are not suggesting that the "admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria" confers on any contemporary Jews a "historical right to the land of Khazaria". Chomsky's whole point in the clip above is that biological descent from people who lived in a certain place hundreds or thousands of years ago is utterly irrelevant to any discussion about territorial rights today, in the 21st century. Either in Palestine-Israel or in the Russian and Ukrainian lands that comprise what was Khazaria over a thousand years ago.
Spoken like a true constructivist... Just that constructivism is the epitome of self-centered thought. While you can recognize the inevitability of having your own perspective being created from your experiences, constructivists take it to a whole new level where they willfully accept fantasy as fact. It makes a huge difference if Askenazi are not descendants of the biblical Jews. Not for me. Not for the Askenazi Jew with his "identity" - maybe. But for the American Evangelical apologists who believes he has to aid God's own people. That that makes a huge difference in terms of world politics.
I am Israeli Jew and my DNA is 88% Levantine and 12% Iran/Persia... most arabs who claim to be "Palestinians" generally have Arabian/ middle eastern genetics mixed with north african genetics and jewish genetics. we dont base who can live in our country based on genetics. no country does.
I first got introduced to Noam Chomsky back in the 80's. It was an hour long programme on channel 4 in the UK, highlighting excerpts from some of his talks where he describes the structures and mechanisms of injustice. I had never heard anything like it before and I was literally entranced by him. The way he could calmly and rationally disassemble all of the accepted beliefs and assumptions of how the world was run and unassailably turn it all on it's head. Such an intellect and such a good man. In the end, all he does is fight for what's right. I love him.
Well you should learn about him a little more. He is a genocide denialist twice - first instance is a famous one and regards to Khmer Rouge genocide. The second one is not common knowledge - he questioned genoside in Srebrenica. Furthermore he lectured East European Countries why it was so wrong to get rid off Soviet Rule. On a footnote Marxist as Chomsky are very good in pointing out the misdeeds of capitalist society they will however turn a blind Eye to every atrocity which they will find justifiable on grounds on their PHILOSOPHIE. So I would not discourage you from listening to Chomsky but find a little bit more about him. On UA-cam there is one hour long inquiry titled “ why Chomsky is Garbage “ made by PhD from Austria. You will find disturbing footage with Chomsky denying Srebrnica genocide.
I feel like the underlying point is that it doesn't matter. Having distant Levantine DNA from 1000+ years ago doesn't give you the right to return and displace a group of people that also are indigenous to the area. If I discover my DNA is Yoruba or Akan, that doesn't give me the right to come to Ghana or Nigeria and forcibly displace the people living there. Even when I am only a few centuries removed from that ancestry in the Americas (compared to 1000 years after Ashkenazi Jews left Levantine). I have to immigrate through legal channels like everyone else. Also DNA claims from 1000 years ago is useless, especially when you consider the dynamic immigration patterns of people over the centuries.
The silly part is, only a few olive growers were there to begin with. But freebies from the UN enticed tons of people to go and declare themselves 'Palestinians'. So most who are there just hopped in for the ride.
@@RawOlympiaAbsolutely flat out misinformation bullshit, but thanks for your contributions in spreading propaganda for a fascistic apartheid ethno-state.
@@Corc-Duibhne I have no skin in the game, just odd that it was all started by the ultra liberal United Nations and pushed for by progressives and now they bellyache about what indeed they pushed on the world. Not sure where you get your info, that nutty marxist prof or what, but it's true, grifters flooded in for the freebies.ua-cam.com/video/LwryDZvNeK4/v-deo.html sadly, both nations are in the top ten for inbreds, so, glad to not be part of it.
750,000 palestinian refugees (the largest refugee crisis in recorded history) and their over 400 demolished palestinian towns prove you are a fool @@RawOlympia
@@RawOlympia Why do you claim to be a researcher and talk about conspiracies when you support these conspirators? Such as Satanists and those in charge of the mind control project They are behind the establishment of Israel and you are like them
The reason the question of whether they are descended from a Turkic people is important is simply because it cuts through the bullshit that Jews are a Race AND a religion. It also deals with the deep-seated myth that God gave Jews Palestine which allows a New York Jew whose origin is Khazaria to claim he or she is returning to a land God gave him or her. In other words, it's the height of Chutzpah to claim the status of both. In other words, as Chomsky says, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew - but it has nothing to do with the so-called 12 Tribes of Israel, and the imbecilic claim that Israel is a 'race' and a religion. You don't, for example, have Muslims or Catholics claiming they are a Race and a people - they understand they comprise multiple ethnicities and therefore have no claim of or right to found a country in which only Catholics or Muslims can live at the expense of the original inhabitants. Only Israel - in this crazy world we live in - tries to impose its Fantasyland on the world, and most of all, the Palestinians.
I remember the first time someone tried to claim to me that Jewish people were a race. Race is enough of an abstract concept but to claim it based on belief in fairytales is ludicrous.
It seems to me that designating oneself as a separate race is exactly the sort of thing that real anti-semites (i.e., Nz's) can latch onto to exterminate a self-described group of people. If you're only a religion, you can convert -- or pretend to -- as some Jews did in Spain during the Inquisition. It seems self-destructive to want to be seen in racial terms.
@@MrDesmondPot But it is based on fairytales of a sort. What makes a Jewish person a Jew? Somebody who participates in the culture of Judaism. But here's the problem that dieter and I have.. If I came to your home and said "God made a promise to my family and this is MY HOUSE"... would you just say "Okay"? Because that's the reason why Israel is located where it is. Because in their religious text, that has talking snakes and magical angels and demons, and magic spells and divine intervention by some god, and they have other gods btw, they lay claim to that territory. Isn't that something that would be thought of as insane but for the fact that so many of us came from a Judeo-Christian background so we normalized it. I'll put it into context. The Americans claimed some manifest destiny ownership claims on the north american continent. Committed various crimes against humanity as well as genocide. Now, we have an entity called the USA. But was that correct? Did the americans actually have some god given claim to that land? Did the Belgians? The French? The Brits? And if so, does Russia have a right to Ukraine? And to all the other countries that were part of the USSR? I don't know where you're from, but I bet I can find a prior claim and then, what will you do? Will you just accept some highly dubious claim over your lived experience? You may think that it's silly to conflate race and ethnicity. But that's what the Israeli government is doing. They import Russian Jews (aka white people) but they deny other groups who claim Jewish heritage. Oh.. by the way, the other group has darker skin. I've come to the realization that Israel is a white ethnostate. It should not be supported until it starts getting a little more humane. (look up how Israelis treat asylum seekers who aren't white. I hate racists. I won't give the state of Israel a pass just because they had a holocaust. Loads of people have suffered. Look up what happened in the Belgium Congo as an example. Look at what happened in the US. That's what happens when you let racists flourish.) Get back to me when you can explain why I should respect a text that has talking snakes, magical aliens, ludicrous magical acts such as frogs, and a host of other nonsense. Also, explain why I can't hold the current Israel nation, that claims this text as their foundational reason, liable for the genocide of the original Caananite inhabitants? If they want to be held by that book, I have no problem throwing that book right at them. I'd like to see them make atonement to the victims of that ancient genocide. Fair's fair.
There is DNA evidence to link Jewish people back to the Middle East. The diaspora shows us this as well. It’s not fairytales based on the Bible, it’s history.
@@jenniferhunter4074 Easy...that book made the West. Stuff that isn't up for debate: one day the Emperor of Rome decided if he won this battle he'd convert, and he won so he did. He then allowed his empire to. Magically even though their own culture was very war like and very successful at doing that they for some reason did. This lead to that culture flourishing over everyone else and allowing them to dominate the world. In their domination they uplifted everyone and drug the entire planet into the modern era. Then doubt began to creep in and the West is falling apart. Either way you can go down the science path to explain this whole phenomenon like Darwin and the eugenicists did and claim it's because the white man is superior or you can go down the religious path. Either way the entire world's history is some sort of group who generally is associated with that book in some way ends up dominating the world. If it was a movie you'd say "it's probably that book" but because that means you'd have to follow what that book says you won't. As for the Canaanites and their relatives the Carthaginians just remember it wasn't just the God of the Hebrews who hated them, it was the Greeks, and the Romans. Hard to like people who sacrifice their kids to gods but what do you expect they worshipped a goddess? I cry for their extermination about as much as a I do for the Nazis, Aztecs, Soviets, etc. I know archaeologist try to claim when they find their burial sites that clearly are filled with ash and children's bones that it couldn't have possibly be what 3 different races/religions said it was but mind you all 3 of those groups fought each other as well so it seems odd they'd all work together to lie about child sacrifice. So you'd want to hold modern jews libel for the minor part in what the Romans mostly did and what most people to this day are OK with having occurred.
I will never understand how Jewish people are a separate race. A separate culture and religious beliefs, though, just like any other group of people. They call themselves the Chosen People. I think that pisses many people off because it sets others up as less than them. They think of themselves as a superior human being. I see no difference in anyone else. Not all of them think that way, but it’s there. And it draws in a lot of hate and resentment from others. I am hearing many of them referring to Palestinians as rats who deserve death. Then when they are called out, they play the victim. The same goes for the anti-Semitism card they throw around to ward off criticism. Everybody is afraid to say anything because of that card being played. Now that most of the world is supporting Palestinians, they are crying victim again. It’s just bizarre.
It is not a race. It is a culture and a religion. They want to believe they are a race as "God's chosen people." And at the same time, many people will deny that Jews are not a race for their agenda. Fact is that the Jewish race is a complete myth.
You should start by separating the facts from the fiction for yourself. First being that the Jewish people are not their own race, they are Europeans. Religion and culture is also questionable because as said before they are Europeans, most Jewish people are either coverts to Judaism or descendants of coverts. And it goes on and on that every narrative of their origin falls apart with even a little scrutiny. Which is why they throw around the antisemitism slur to shut down debates and put the critics on the defensive.
"chosen people" is just a fairytale - they murdered, pillaged, destroyed, razed cities, killed livestock, stole & raped all in the name of their god and claim to be "holy" and "chosen" - and by descent aren't even genetically semitic - now we can add lying to the list...
All good except when people in power attempt to use the 5000 Year old BS that it was their land so get out...thats where the line is crossed and we should send them to the nuthouse, not $$$$
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America). •1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
@@Ishi79 Hey, did you know your ancestors were in LAS VEGAS 8000 years ago. That means, it belongs to you and you can now get the police to go help you kick out the owners and take over CAESARS PALACE on the Strip! Really... apparentely, that's the new logic for the 21st Century
Wow, you also picked up on that quote? Good for you! Here’s why he said that: He’s right:”what happened in the Bible is NOT going to help”. Because these jew(ish)/ashkenazi/khazars/amalekites/edomites/Esau’s descendants know that they are NOT the chosen people of the book. Furthermore, the future judgement(s) awaiting them: Obadiah 1-21; Isaiah 14:1-2, 21; Ezekiel chapters 34, 35 & 36; Malachi 1:1-5; Romans 9:11-13; Hebrews 12:16-17; Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 13:10; etc.
Khazar Turks; It was a community of people who were science-loving, humane, interested in religious matters, and tolerant. DNA doesn't matter. If current Ashkenazi people have these features, they are Turkish. Otherwise, they have lost their Turkishness.
I use to believe in the Khazarian Hypothesis . However the lack of Turkic share words in Yiddish seems to argue against it. In addition, the presence of paternal markers e1b1b in 20 to 30 percent of Ashkenazi males along with the j1 and j2 paternal markers would seem to argue for a Near Eastern origin paternally for the male lineage. With all that said the idea that modern Jewry descend from a single male ancestor 3000 years,ago is ridiculous IMO. And doesn't the Zionist case for a right to modern Israel depend that lineage?
1) Khazar theory makes a certain amount of sense. They had a huge trade network and then got attacked by Rus from the North and other Turkic peoples from the East. They weren't on friendly terms with the Muslim caliphate to the South so clearly the only place the survivors could have gone is West into Eastern/Central Europe. 2) Anti-Palestinian arguments purposefully take advantage of Westerners not understanding the concept of Arabization. Conquered peoples took on the language and cultural elements but it's not like they were bred out of existence. Palestinians looks super different from Gulf Arabs and I'd wager they have more Abrahamic DNA than someone who has supposedly been in Europe for two millenia. Even the Biblical accounts point out that the Israelites were constantly intermarrying and sharing culture with the people they were supposed to be fighting. I'd be really interested in seeing a bunch of double-blind DNA tests done in a country with no stake in the matter(maybe a small Buddhist nation in Asia?).
That's correct. also many of the inhabitants of Palestine converted to Judaism (Maccabees wars) then later most of the jews themselves converted to christianity in that particular region, followed by conversion to Islam a few centuries later. there was no record in history of a massive expulsion of jews from Palestine as they claim. and those who immigrate to Europe were accused and ironically expelled from Rome because of their missionary activities. so you can imagine how many jews converts there are that now being all considered a blood descendants of the 12 tribes. it's more likely that someone in current Palestine named Mohammad has more DNA shared with king David (if existed) than Sharon Stone (if any)
@@creoken8772 There were two mass expulsions, the first was the result of Persian conquest. The second was after Roman's oppressed the Jewish rebellion, during the second(some say third) destruction of the Solomon's temple.
OK I have a few responses to some of the things you said. 1) "They weren't on friendly terms with the Muslim caliphate to the South so clearly the only place the survivors " This implication that they were being killed, for there to be survivors, is not substantiated whatsoever. There was discrimination sure, but no evidence of massacres for there to be survivors. In fact Baghdad was a place for Jewish learning under the Abbasids. There was also none of the ghettoisation that occurred in Europe in the medieval ages. 2) - You saying double blind makes absolutely no sense in this context, a jew is obviously going to know they are a jew and the same for a Muslim. So you can only blind the test one way. -We already have very credible DNA tests, that indicate high continuity from ancient Levantine until modern day for the Palestinians. Jews also have high amounts of Middle Eastern markers, but as you can imagine have European ones as well. - Suggesting "a small Buddhist nation in Asia" is also just odd. That isn't necessary in the least, there are plenty of other neutral parties in countries that are specialists in DNA testing; the vast majority of DNA science is done in America and Europe. Just because American foreign policy is biased doesn't mean a scientific institution is.
Exactly, many Westerners don't seem to understand that Arabization was a gradual cultural-religious process, not a population replacement, and don't seem aware of the fact that in the Arabic speaking world, especially amongst Muslims, claiming Arabian lineage is a cultural norm and considered desirable because if its religious significance. As far as Israelites go, scholars can't prove or disprove where they came from - some think they came from outside (Ur of The Chaldees), as mentioned in theyre own origin story, some think they were from the area, and others think they could be a combination, but what can be proved, if it matters, is that there were other groups in the Levant before they're arrival. To be clear, Jewish people do have roots in the area, but so do others, and this attempt to over state one layer of heritage more than the other gives a skewed impression, and as noted by Ben-Gurion, Palestinians are also descendants of ancient Hebrews.
Before I begin, I am neither Arab nor Isrealis. I lament for the civilians on both sides who have been killed and / or injured. Especially the children on both sides, and the women and children who are left as widows and orphans on both sides. I've arrived at the same conclusion in my 30's. The Isrealites are "A" lost people, and today, we do not know who they truly are, neither do they know they are. (Possibly, an ethic group of black/dark skinned people. However, no one truly knows.) These people who call themselves Isrealis are people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, yet most of them don't know that. (Except for a few who have studied the past and are honest with themselves. As well as a few of those who have a vested interest to continue to deceive all of their people into believing otherwise." Continuing on, sometime, in the distant past, Isrealite "missionaries" ventured into the Caucasus region and came across a group of people who were open-minded to be taught and emulate a new culture. Thereafter, they accepted Judaism: the traditions, rituals, practices, religion, etc. as their own. Later, as those "missionaries" died out: a new generation born afterward mistakenly believed they were the people of the Torah/Bible, as the Isrealite "missionaries" were long forgotten by then. Abraham and Sarah are from the eastern Middle East of what is today called Iraq (Babylon). Issac's wife, Rebekah, is from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Jacob's wives, Rachel (his favorite), Leah, and his 2 concubines (the handmaidens to the sisters) are from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Today, the people of Iraq are a lighter shade of brown due to back and forth conquests between Minor Asia, Africa, and Mediterranean Europe. However, back in Abraham and Sarah's day, these people were a darker skin shade of brown. The people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, who identify as Isrealis: to our common sense of sight, are obviously of European descent!!!
None of the patriarchs were darker Skin. They were of the Aryan race which migrated into Europe. The Dead Sea Scrolls tell you what Sarah looked like!Brown people are the invaders of the Israelites. Jews are of Esau and not Jacob.
I disagree with you about the color theory ... look at the map of the world: Fo you think really that white people are just and were just from Europ??!! Also, the Civilizations in Iraq and Syria back to thousands of years BC and land of indigenous and immigrations from different places
The late president of Egypt Jamal Abdul Nasser, once taunted them saying, 'They were dark skinned 2000 years ago, when the Romans drove them out, and now, they have come back white'.
I have Jewish ancestry via my maternal grandmother's family. They were all fair skinned and with red hair. Not really a physical attribute you'd likely see in anyone from the Middle East or Mediterranean.
It makes a big difference. The Israelis claim the right of return to the land that God gave to the "seed" of the biblical patriarch Abram ; from whom they claim descent. The Ashkenazis are descended from Mongolian/Turkish Khazars, thus have no relation to Abram and no biblical claim to the land of Palestine. They are the people described in Revelation 2:9, "those who say they are Jews and are not, ...".
The problem with ancestral theory is that it does not answer the ancestry of say the Yemeni Jews or Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews). The Ethiopian Jews are clearly Africa. Interestingly, they practice the Judaism we know in the bible.
It is scientifically and genetically not proven that the Jews descend from the Khazars. And concerning your quote from the Christian Bible: here are the real origins of 2000 years antisemitism starting with John. ( probably written in 200 AC).
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology. •The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
@@cp9105 nothing new there. It’s as old as religions. And priests are most convincing when they forget they’re acting or better yet when unaware they’re in character
Of course it wouldn't matter if not for the fact that millions of 'Jewish' people are claiming their historic homeland is Israel, and that they have a divine right to return. I mean if a bunch of Mormons claim to be the lost tribe of Israel, don't think they'd get a passport to the Holy land Same as Rastafarians claimed to have a divine right to return to Ethiopia for example, when it was obviously pointed out that their claim to be of Ethiopian extraction had no basis in reality. From a religious point of view of course it doesn't matter as religions are by their nature fantastical, but when religious rights begin to cross over into the very real world of political rights, such tendentious claims take on a greater significance, Does it matter? I dare say it matters to the Palestinians being currently forced from their homes to make way for the alleged pale-faced children of Abraham. Which is not to say that Jews with little genetic connection to the Middle East should suffer persecution or not even be granted a homeland as protection from future genocidal attacks, after all, even if their Judaism is a later construct or revival, it's at least as old as Islam, but perhaps that homeland can be located somewhere that isn't in the heart of the middle east. Perhaps only Jews with a large Semitic DNA profile should have the right to stay in Palestine.
I have always greatly admired Noam for his intellegence, rational coherence, and not least for his undiminished defence of the underdog. Having said that, I believe that in this particular case he is somehow off the mark. It is factual that we live in world of cultural and sometimes mythical constructs and that we usually just go along without making a fuss about them or even paying much attention because they seldom have noticeable repercussions in the real world, not to say tragic repercussions as in this case. The thing is that in this specific situation we are facing a different beast because it is precisely this cultural-mythical construct of jewishness that is being weaponised to legitimise a criminal settler colonial society as some sort of historical correction. The brutally criminal treatment of palestinians (as Noam has aknowledged and fought against throughout his life) has to be dismantled at every level of its construct be it cultural, historical or mythical. The jewish peolple, whatever that means for whoever, can "identify" as jewish, because some cultural tradition, as long as they want - even when they are openly outright atheist. But their "right to return to their historical land" is a scam even if they feel, because of the mythical world they identify with, it is not. The fact of the matter remains that "jews" are for the most part non-semitic peoples converted to judaism at different moments in time. Bringing to the forefront the falsehood on which the state of Israel has been built is of paramount importance to defend the right of palestinians to their whole land at both a historical and a practical demension.
@@mikev4621 I disagree with Noam when he is too ready to dismiss the visibilisation of the foundational scam of Israel, namely the right of jews to return to the lands from which they were supposedly expelled 2000 years ago as irrelevant to the present state of affairs. It is clearly pretty relevant when it is used by most defenders of Israel as one of the main arguments to justify the stealing of palestinian land (state of Israel) and the brutal ordeal of its people (Israel has the right to defend itself). Everywhere else I agree with Noam.
In an informal setting, "-ish" is often added to words to mean "approximately", " somewhat", "sort of", or "similar to". For example, "thirty-three-thirtyish" spans the period from "a short time before 3:30" to "a short time after 3:30". Other examples include "bluish", "tallish", "sixish", or "hungry-ish".
@@user-si4nt5gt9b my self I believe that , you can take the Magyar people who moved to Europe and founded Hungary, Magyars were parts of Khazaria , in nowadays lot of Jews among theme, Sarkozy ex French president as example, a Magyar jew
Between the 1100's and 1300's many Ashkenazi Jews moved to Poland and there are two reasons for this one was the increase in Pogroms which includes blood libel and putting poison in the wells even though they drank the same water and between the 1100's and 1300's various polish Kings inacted laws favorable to Jews and Casimir the great reinforced these existing laws and Jews had a safe haven in Poland.
He doesn’t deny that it could be true. He merely says it’s irrelevant. This is like Chomsky when asked about Israeli Mossad involvement in 9.11. He doesn’t deny it, he just says it’s irrelevant. Whether you think he is right or wrong is up to you.
Exodus (God) didn't give them that homeland. The Balfour agreement did (man). They're converts and they're lying. Thankfully they didn't get Uganda, then they'd say they're straight African not polish, Germanic, etc. and would be warring with them. Just wow.
It doesn't matter because you can't just ethnically cleanse people and pretend you have a right to the land ,,,, you know something we are all indigenous to Africa let's lead a barbaric wars and claim its ours ,, let the indigenous people in us ethnically cleanse European,,, all you have to do is stop the apartheid stop the genocide and let people live together,,,,,, why the fuck ethnically cleanse some so some can live ,,, that's Monstrous, ,,,!!! Plus palestinian are the land land owners and they belong to the canaanites that were even before Judaism so you still lose the battle if we go back in history,,,,, you are not the chosen people stop the hallucinations,,,, with your actions you are probably chosen people of hell
Maybe missed the point: that deep history does matter for knowing the past, but does not matter for modern definitions of nation-states and international law; DNA and scrolls don't give group J the "right" to dispossess group P from where they'd been living.
In his latest speech aimed at convincing the Israeli public of the necessity of war, netanyahu refers to the Bible, specifically the war against Amalek. If not as a call for the genocide of the Palestinian people, what does this appeal mean?
No. He’s deeply flawed on several major issues, and he completely misses the point of this question, which is: how can Jews living today claim a right to a Jewish state in Palestine if they’re not descended from ancient Israel? Israel’s claim to legitimacy is founded on the belief that the Jewish people have returned to their ancient homeland after 2,000 years. But if the modern European Jews are not descended from the ancient Israelites, but instead from the Khazars, then what right to they have to the land of Palestine? I think it’s a serious question and Chomsky dismissed it out of hand.
Don’t idolize him. He’s not all that great. When asked about 9/11 bring an inside job, he dismisses the matter out of hand as a “conspiracy theory”and finally says “who knows and who cares.” In fact, it’s an enormously important question, and the evidence is overwhelming that it was an inside job and that Israel was deeply involved. For all his criticism of Israeli mistreatment of the Palestinians, he remains a Zionist and he opposes BDS. Likewise, he dismisses the argument that President John Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA as a silly “conspiracy theory” when it’s obviously true. He advocated for Covid lockdowns and mandates and said that those who refused to get vaccinated should be forced to stay in their homes and be denied access to society. Nothing to admire there.
@@syourke3 They are not Semites. They are Kazhar converts. A nomadic 'Turkish/Asian' people. They have NO connection to Palestine. None at all. *Added* Usury, perversion, subversion, and identity theft. Over and over again with these people. I don't care what anyone calls me. It is the truth and the truth is just the truth.
“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” Gamal Abdel(1952) 2nd President of Egypt Gamal Nasser (Quote about fake jews currently in Israel) Gamal Nasser was the leader of Egypt from 1954 until his death in 1970.
So wise. Historical Moses might or might not existed? And he claims to be a Jew. Obviously he is a different kind of Jew. Bible is irrelevant. He is a total fool.
Okay I caught this right away with Moses comment. He is saying whatever the truth may be they have made a dual truth to support who they claim to be. There can be an historical Moses (if he ever existed) and they have made their own Moses. Amazing, they will live and die with this type of thinking, knowing they have been called out for their obvious lie. Astonishing!
I grew up in northern México, land of cowboys. My father, my grandfather, all the gentlemen wore cowboy hats, as a kid they taught me that cowboys never lie, shake hands vigourously as only men do and are blunt for speaking, and the most sacred quality, take care of their women and children. I had always worn my cowboy hat with pride, all until my teenagehood. When I opened my eyes and learned Cowboys are as humans as yankees, as Mexico City civilized gentlemen and lie, steal, are negligent as every society in this marvelous world. Mr. Chomsky, today your cowboy hat is on the floor.
We can't have world leaders that think. Generally. Those who think are gotten rid of. Corporations like medicine, weapons and oil, and others, run countries unfortunately. The banking , lending and stock market system being a big one too.
Horrible man you mean not honourable. Anybody that advocated for those who didnt take the Covid vaccine to be segregated from society like prisoners is not an honourable man. Yes thats what he said & then said when it was pointed out they would need feeding that "Thats on them".
These so called world leaders know all that...but they are not after the truth . They are after the class interests of their masters or of their own, if they are from the ruling classes, like the bushes and Trumps . Remember all the wars they initiated and initiate...in order to justify their criminal deeds and get support from an already predisposed population (in all of the imperialist countries), they fabricate narratives in order to manufacture the desired consensus .
Except on Covid vaccines, where he took the corporate lies hook, line, and sinker, probably due to fear of dying, which was also based on lies, as Covid did not do much more than speed up already inevitable deaths. There was no significant extra risk of death with Covid due to age alone. Covid risk is with comorbidities; not with age. It just so happens that comorbid people get more comorbid as they age, so most of the most comorbid people are elderly. Noam would have had people like me who did their homework and found that the vaccines were worthless and fairly unsafe starve to death, to protect people like him. I lost a lot of respect for him then.
Oh look, it’s the old dude who said me and my family should be banished from society, left to die because we didn’t take an experimental drug. No respect for this hack after that display.
Summarizing something usually means you need to understand what the person is saying first. You clearly don't so maybe you should watch the video again and pay attention this time
From what i've seen Ashkenazis can literally be of any ethnic background, I seen one who was dominantly French, another Eastern European, another literally all of Europe, East and West. The reason why they say "Dude, we're only Middle Eastern, bro!" is taught in support of Israel.
Chomsky is mistaken by one thing DNA matters very much as they claim to be an ethnicity not a culture, so DNA matters the most here and they are not semits I.E not real jews.
An ethno-religious group to be more precise. Look up the DNA studies... there is European admixture in some Ashkenazim, but also a clear and distinct connection to all other Jewish populations. Avail yourself of the science.
@edwardkantowicz4707 provide the study, if you are referring to a less than 1% heritage that all humans share then you are as all other zionists cherrypicking, it's a well know fact ashkinazy jews have no semite DNA, at best they have some khazar relations, and even the khazar are not semites macking them fake jews too, so i would ask you to avail yourself of the science little lying zionist.
I have a serious question. How does one square the concept of a "Chosen People "with Democracy? I have had dear friends of all persuasions and I am curious, not trying to make a point. Thank you
Wow. DNA doesn’t matter as long as there narratives does. Isn’t there something wrong about that? Huh 🤔. I guess we should thru out the biblical story too.
He showed his true colors, as did many, during the scamdemic. I've had little respect this this dude for a long time but that was it as far as I'm concerned. This is what happens to intellectuals when they have a life of praise over their study discipline, in his case linguistics, they suddenly think they are the final authority in all things and all topics. AND his vocal drone affectation that effects ALL academics, but him especially, is on the far side of annoying.
Mans a scumbag that advocated for segregated the non vaxxed & I quote him "Like we do prisoners" & then said "Well thats on them" when it was pointed out that prisoners need feeding.
Chomsky, an anarchist, counsels people to vote Democrat in every US presidential election. This is bad advice for a lot of reasons...but so what? Chomsky is human and makes mistakes and sometimes he's even a hypocrite. FWIW I didn't agree with his position on Covid and there are other instances where I don't see eye to eye with him. But he almost single handedly red-pilled, as the kids say, an entire generation of people on US foreign policy and Israel's crimes against the Palestinians and taught them the importance of thinking "outside the box" and challenging conventional wisdom and the propaganda used to sell it. His eloquent and succinct defense of free speech ("If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech") from the Manufacturing Consent film is priceless and sounds almost subversive in today's paranoid and authoritarian political climate. I really dislike the "with us or against us" attitude that prevails, where if a person says one thing I disagree with or is wrong about something...this makes them a fool, a dupe etc. and I should cast everything they have ever said or written into the trash bin. It's anti-intellectual and a kind of self-imposed cancel culture of the mind. It is also just plain silly...if I only read or respected the words and ideas of writers and thinkers I 100% agree with all the time on every issue, that would be a very short reading list indeed.
As to the origin of the Jews in Palestine today are those Jews derived from Eastern Europe are not descendents of the Judeans, or the lost tribes of Israel but rather descendents of the Khazars, a nation most people do not even know of.. Furthermore the so-called or self-styled Jews in Eastern Europe in modern history cannot legitimately point to a single ancient ancestor who ever set foot on the soil of Palestine in the era of Bible History..
DNA analyses of both Jewish and Palestinian populations show a direct genetic heritage going back thousands of years to the original inhabitants of the Levant. They are basically the same people, separated by accidents of history. It is most likely that today's Palestinians were Jews, Jewish descent Christians, or Samaritans who converted to Islam after the Arab conquest. Ashkenazi Jews show some ancestral intermarriage with central Europeans, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews maintained a purer connection, while a portion of today's Palestinians have a slight connection to Arabs through intermarriage. This small piece of land is the ancestral home to both Jews and Palestinians.
@@cysmcaleb8411 By DNA evidence, Jews and Palestinians are the same people, divided by accidents of history. Forced diasporas and conversions to Islam.
@@stephenbailey9969 Science can be bought and paid for. In fact, more often than not, it is, especially when there are political issues at stake. There have been multiple reports on the matter. Some done by Israelis themselves, that are contrary to the nonsense you're spewing out in a feeble attempt to lay claim to something that doesn't belong to you and never did.
What's wrong with so many people, Noam Chomsky once again didn't say anything amazing or even true. The boys on this debate weremore accurate and even updated than him and are speaking from the historical and scientific point of view, facts not a personal or a religious opinion-believe. Chomsky is overated, he can fart that people would always say he is a genius. On this debate he kept repeating biased and wrong premises, I am afraid that he was aware of it but kept pushing his classic rhetoric no matter what. Also a bit classless to interrupt the other person considering his age, status, experience and cultural background. I really think most people are blinded by his intellectual Aura.
One of my brothers got a DNA test that showed we have some Italian genes . Does it mean we have the right to go 'back' to Italy, terrorize a few families out of their homes and take over their land 😂😂😂😂
It only matters when people try to claim other people's land, based on the idea that their ancestors actually originated there, and therefore they have some claim to it. I may say that I view myself as part of your family culturally, but that don't mean that I can take your house.
❤️Chomsky: ‘Israel is sharp discrimination against the Palestinians, illegal settlements in the West Bank, and killing the people of Gaza. Talking about what happened in the Bible is not going to help.’
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history. Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery. The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted. To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
He's very old already & probably tired & cynical. His analysis is always spot on. How would you feel if you had a huge intellect, a sense of justice & fairness & had given this wisdom over decades. And few in the end listen to you....?
@@sarahpengelly8439Yes. He’s cast his pearls before swine for decades. I doubt he’ll ever see this comment, but I hope he knows how much he’s loved. ❤❤❤
@@darciswChomsky is going to be judged for perpetuating a lie. He is well aware that his people have no moral title to that land, yet he says it doesn't matter. He is a disgrace.
@@sarahpengelly8439Yes, he's probably quite tired. Decades of lies and obfuscation have no doubt worn him out. He knows that his people are not the nationality to whom God promised the land, but he has made the determination that "culture" is what matters. Foh. This is the most morally bankrupt thing I have ever heard.
Yes, you are correct. This is what I believe Chomsky is saying too. Strange and bizarre reasoning! But why and what does he not want to admit about the "Jews"?
A Japanese fellow converts to Islam, and 100 years later, his grandchildren claim to have roots in Arabia. Really? It dient change their faith, but they are Japanese not Arabs. Why is this complicated.
because european colonizers intentionally try to MAKE it complicated in order to hide the truth that the natives they are wiping out are probably much closer relatives to the ancient Hebrews than they will ever be
NO! They become Arabs by cultural tradition or a tradition they have adopted, thus in terms of they are Arabs. 🎻
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You don't make sense. Adopting a culture does not change your DNA.
@@-o-light8863lol
No they don't : Arab is an ethnicity : Muslem is NOT @@-o-light8863
It is relevant on two levels:
- Khazars can't accuse everyone of been "antisemitic", including Arabs who ARE Semites, when they themselves are not.
- the claim about a legendary "land of the fathers" becomes even more ridiculous when none of your ancestors were from there or even lived there.
This man is the ultimate scholarly gaslighter. I am truly floored by his educated nonsense. One day they will be forced to admit the truth.
The root word Semite is like Caucasian. It means people who speak a similar language and live in the same area. All white people aren't from the Caucasus mountains, and the ones who are didn't travel about Eurasia like just about everyone else. Anti-Semitism is a deliberate inversion, it referrers to mostly Europeans.
Today "antisemitic" means just "antijew". Yep it's a confusing term.
@@marianohernangutierrez2525because they Jewish appropriated that word as something about race
DNA doesn’t lie. Noam Chomsky does
Funny I’m Palestinian and I did a DNA test and it’s 98% Levantine 2% Arabian peninsula. I can trace my lineage in falasteen 1600 years back. We are the indigenous PERIOD whether they like it or not
Your ancestors were Jewish and forced to convert or be murdered by Muslims. Yes that is what happened inshallah
Say the fucking truth
OK, but what if another Palestinian, who, unlike yourself, can trace their lineage in Falasteen only 200 years back, does a DNA test and the result shows that they are 70% Turkish and 10% Kurdish and 10% Albanian and 9% Bosnian and 1% from the Arabian peninsula, and the vast majority of their ancestors arrived in Falasteen during the Ottoman period? Would you then say that that person is less Palestinian than you are? Would you say that that person has less right to live in Falasteen than you have?
Palestinians and Ashkenazi Jews are ultimately Greek descent. One by way of the Mediterranean to Syria and Turkey. The other by way Mediterranean to Western Europe and Nordic Europe. Same DNA. Jewish, Islam and Arab isnt a race. Its a religion and culture.
Free the hostages now philistine
@@markmarshall5234 That's just a guess, nothing real. Have you found a single Palestinian with that genetic makeup?.
What happens to the “israelis” who neither have roots in the Middle East nor in Falasteen and their DNA takes them back to Europe 2000 years because they are Europeans converted to judaism 1000 years ago.
It does matter when people are using their claimed ancestory to claim the right to a land which you colonise & remove people who have inhabited the place for millennia, it very certainly matters!
They weren't required to leave, they rejected the partition plan and allied with the Arabs who told them to evacuate so they could conquer the region. But they lost, FAFO.
I agree, now I am antisemetic, great
Bingo
Not sure that God was really into this "private property" thing-whether of land, money or anything else. Wasn't he more about "sharing things"?.
What about the peoples decendants that were driven Out of palestine by the hebrews claiming their god Had promised it to only them?
Its not a coincidence that DNA tests are not allowed in Israel.
It's no coincidence that somebody's brain is still lodged up his mom's...
@@MG-dj7jvinsulting doesn't make you right, it just makes you irrelevant
MyHeritage is an Israeli company ammiritte?
This is such a stupid argument. Consumer DNA tests don't measure ancient ancestry, they measure genetic relation to modern reference populations - when Ashkenazim take a consumer DNA test, it just identifies their DNA as Ashkenazi. It doesn't say anything about this issue. In any case actual DNA studies have long debunked the Khazarian hypothesis.
@@Philoglossoshasbara bot spotted
makes even bigger sense when you consider Zionism's roots is not in the bible, but in European colonialism of the 19th century. Palestine wasn't even their first choice, they were considering Uganda before. They didn't care about the bible and religion and DNA roots and anything like that, they were secular settlers from Poland, Germany, Belarus etc. coming to Palestine to claim the land off the indigenous population. pretty simple. This is the material reality we need to focus on, not made up stories and idealistic pretentions
100%!!!! I say they are colonizing liars. Who stole the land from the REAL Jews... And furthermore the original Hebrews are actually from the Americas and are copper colored.
They are the AntiChrist. Rev 2:9 they just using the Star of David as a prop and terrorize Christians and real Jews
Madagascar was also on the table. probably the best choice for the world
@@xxxmikeyjockI was also thinking about Madagascar and how it probably would have been far more preferable to Uganda. That could have been a potentially beneficial situaiton for the Ashkenazi Jews and the world. Too bad it didn't work out.
@mattmacintosh4678. Good points and also the parallels between Zionism and Nazism are similar. There’s the shared theory of racial superiority and both groups had a vested interest is displacing Jews outside of Germany; Poland, Russia and other Eastern European countries. Nazis were occultists while many Zionist were and still are atheists. They shared the common goal of securing a “Jewish state “for the Jews. This is not synonymous with a homeland.
A lie is a lie, no matter how long you believe the lie. Truth matters.
100% agree
So what's the lie?
“ it’s not antisemitic. It’s just a question of fact “. Very powerful line that needs to be used A LOT more considering the games that are being played while Izzreal commits genocide
Even if they really are the original settlers of the land. It was their great9 grandparents who settled there. If my grandmother is originally from Germany & she move to America at some point. I should have no rights to go to Germany & confiscate other people's property. Millions of Americans with German ancestry should not have the right to steal German lands. The argument that they were the original settler shouldn't even be brought up at the first place because it's irrelevant.
Amazingly, you don't know German history-Hitler called upon all German emigres to return to the fatherland for war - their fundamental duty as a member of the Germanic tribes.@@secrets.295
@@secrets.295they are not the settlers of the land! That’s why he answered the way he answered
@@Cbevly I know. But even if hypothetically speaking they are the descendants of the settlers of the land. That still doesn't give them the right to steal land & private properties.
Ignore the science...... follow the magic made-up book 😂... Pure ignorance
He's essentially saying it's true, but doesn't matter. Except that it does when making a historical claim to the land of Palestine. Khazar's were simply not there 2000 years ago and have no claim, regardless of "culture".
Which is why the Zionists cling so heavily to being "semites" so they can claim the land! They are Not!
Israel does not care about DNA, only religion. The Palestinians' ancestors were there 2000 years ago.
Even if it was true that they left 1.5 to 2 millennia ago, it's absurd to claim that you have an ancestral right when other people have been living continuously in the region since then. Chomsky has said the same thing before.
exactly
that also doesn't matter because you trying to say who lived there first owns the place. ALL those arguments are essentially irrelevant, as no one has produced a receipt signed by GOD for any land on this GLOBE all arguments are mute. Sure many books n stuff, but non of the books have actually been penned by God from cover to cover-either, sure many HUMAN assertion about receiving the "word" of God, funny always in THEIR favour mmm curious that one.
No one has a RIGHT to any LAND, least over anyone else. End of discussion. The rest is a HUMAN construction, a loose legal framework, created to "make-it-so".
Force does not equal right that is important here.
BUT men are simple beings and very very very immature, the ego feeds possession, and they need a tribe to wave a flag.
What can I say...its all CRAP, and MAN has made it so.
Solution = all nations are illegal, all armies illegal, all weapons illegal, now try and live in peace. BUT BUT BUT...I can't explain how bored I am with HUMANS unbelievably simple retards.
'I have an ancestral right to this land, even though NONE of my ancestors ever came from this land!'
That scholar said its true but it doesnt matter
Or you say ‘I have might so I have all the right to occupy this land (of my fathers’s land).HELL WITH YOUR LAW.)
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
Didn’t have to use that to invade Australia
@@MelaninMagdalene Every inhabited continent had Europeans trying to conquer it. Why single out Australia?
In 2006, Shlomo Sand's The Invention of the Jewish People stirred up controversy over its claim that most modern day Jews do not share an "unbroken genealogy," and are the descendants of Khazar converts to Judaism who originated from the north Caucasus region.
Pseudoscientific drivel.
lol... 'Shlomo'
It actually matters greatly when you are trying to reclaim a land that doesn’t belong to you
So here the probleme is not the reason, as there is no, but the motivation that is at stake.
So if there's no ancestral connection to the children of Israel what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousands of years old. I agree with Dr Chomsky if the issue is cultural identity or religion but if your claim is ancestral, and it is, the claim is baseless without the ancestry.
The basis of zionist claim on the land is just money & power, then comes the lies after them, they created a lie and forced it on the world, there's no way Jerusalem and Nazareth were empty for thousands of years, this land always had her people and I don't think they looked like Netanyahu, jews belong to whatever country they came from to Palestine in the 20s century
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry?wprov=sfti1#1806%E2%80%931918
_"what is the basis for claiming land occupied by others with ancestral connection hundreds or even thousand years old"_ - _GREED_
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America).
•1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
Lol he knows Ashkenazi have nothing to do with the original Jews and tries to play it off like it doesn’t matter when in fact it’s an extremely important detail.
Exactly 💯
We can't allow these people to gloss over history and pretend that it's not relevant.
GOOD
All these intellectual fakes do is obfuscate facts, I'm talking about Chomsky, Harris, Peterson and all the rest (every single one of them).
I say good because, I see too many people here getting wet for his intellect and it's the same thing elsewhere. People depend on the words of a wise men like they're in middle ages, like they cant read and research in this age.
And we really cannot have you or you're sort of people glossing over what's going on now in the present looking back to the bible bla bla is not working.
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk Yvette, nobody said anything about the Bible. We're talking documented history and genealogy. Many things in the history of the state of Palestine are public record and it fully supports our position. So I have no idea what you're on about. It sounds like you're going off pure emotion. Facts do not care about your emotions and whoever made you that emotional
(Mainstream Media)
None of you people can ever come up with any intellectual coherent position on why you're right, are you trying to keep it a secret or something?
@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk What exactly are we glossing over? How does anyone talking about historical facts mean that we're glossing over anything? If you really thought that, then you should've pointed out exactly what we're "glossing over". If you can't say exactly what, then it's you who is glossing over and therefore you're just projecting your bullshit onto us
Noam says he's of the tribe of Judah but his DNA says he's not.
He's full of bs
The bottom line is the imposters occupying the Holly land are not the Chosen People of the Bible but they are referred to in the scriptures revelation 2:9 and 3:9
fact
The synagogue of Satan is wha they are called in the Revelations.
They were not referred to in any so called scripture. They're mostly slavs. This was a well orchestrated plot by Europeans to control asia. Napoleon wanted palestine to become part of france.
I remember not so long ago you could not say that on YT with out getting a strike or flagged..Now that they exposed themselves to the world I guess they cant police the speech now.
Read acts 7:43 lol… it tells you whom they are there. 6 points 6 triangles 6 sided hexagon = ✡️ aka the “star of Remphan” their god molek. They stoned Stephen for revealing them then. And crucified Isho for revealing who they were while He walked among us. The “tares among His wheat”.
In 1943, Abraham N. Polak (sometimes referred to as Poliak), later professor of the history of the Middle Ages at Tel Aviv University, published a Hebrew monograph in which he concluded that the East European Jews came from Khazaria.
The Khazars converted to Judaism and interbred with the Jews in exile.
He isnt claiming its true, he is sayig it doesnt matter, because throuout history dna changes in & out of a nation. also most Israelies arnt from Europe but from the Islamic world.
@@derekpmoore The Khazars converted to Judaism and interbred with the Jews in exile.This is like 50/50 Horse & Chicken Salami: one horse, one chicken, one horse, one......
@@derekpmoore what is the source of this information exactly?
@@millereladwhat do you mean by israelites? The people from the Bible? Then I would agree, as the Jews who have always lived in the region are according to a Genetic Science site* said the Jews, Palestinians & Kurds are "closer than cousins"...
*sorry I don't have a link, as I can't find the article I read about 9 or so years ago.
The Thirteenth Tribe is a 1976 book by Arthur Koestler, in which the author advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkish people.
And there are no similarities with Jewish groups genetics to central asian/Turkic.
Not theory it is biblical scriptural
Gen 10:3
Japheth -> Gomer -> Ashkenaz ( *i* )
*Meaning: Current Caucasians jews are Not genetically from Shem (orientals), Not from Abram, Issac, Jacob (Israel)*
These real jews should be people of Oriental from East, and in history came, their forefathers mixed with Ham line in mesopotamia. (eg Joseph patriarch marry Egyptian princess, African black) etc.
Result: Real genetic Jews are now all black looking pf Asian decent (Shem decent) but they lost their identities, one day in 666 world civilization, the future Elites will genetically find them and make sure these African looking Asian of Abram, Issac, Jacob line shall stay in own respective countries...
Not moving or immigrate to Israel Palestine.
Future in 666 world civilization, there will be an Israel Palestine with different people live in harmony, peace, without walls (opposite of now, bloodshed, evils, walled)
And end of 666 world civilization, Gog shall lead world to Jerusalem land with people living in peace, country without walls...
Then Armageddon, day of Lord etc.
& starting
Millennium 1,000 years of peace.
After 2024 Nov US election, US take the developed world naval powers to war
Humongous fleets..
NWO world level plan.
Wars wars wars,
society unrest unending
Brokenaall forms of relationship
5 decades from ~2023
Then occult rukers shall bring out the Mark Lateinos 666 put in UN charter for world
6 decades from ~ 2023
666 world civilization will be established
Mystery Babylon the Great shall fall...
10 toes... UN 10 permanent security council seats shall take over for awhile
For Ashkenazi, there are actually. @@UmbralMoon-pw8ot
there were though
@@UmbralMoon-pw8ot
Its the crazy christian evangelistists that need to be told this😂😂
Actually, the comments are more interesting than Chomsky's.
I agree 100%!!!
It Matters a lot! When there are millions of people claiming that a land belongs to them because their ancestors lived there 1000s of years ago. Then we need to investigate if they are really the people, they claim they are. Otherwise, these fanatics will take the world into another world war.
No need to "investigate." We can say: claims of ancient dwelling are irrelevant to who dwells where, in our era.
@@KCW-NYC And that is the way of the World. Why the the Juices of the Americas give their property to the American Indians???
@@user-ns3pr6hh9dnot going to happen
If they are Khazars or not wont change those in power now that want to push their expansionist agenda. I doubt evidence with change their present plans.
But perhaps evidence can help convince many others, especially the growing Israeli population that is against the apartheid and expansionism.
I can see his point here. Not that it doesnt matter to claims. But that it has been 75 years and whether they are actually descendant from ancient Judah or not will not affect the reality of a present occupier group being present that wont be leaving anytime soon.
@@KCW-NYC💯
Genetic studies on Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi Jews in 1999 revealed that the DNA structures gave results close to those of Turkish Khazar origin, not to Jews of Israeli origin.
R1a1 Slavic🎉
Follow up studies rejected that hypothesis. No?
The Khazar Empire (Turkish: Hazar İmparatorluğu) was an empire formed by a Turkish nomadic people who controlled the steppes of Central Asia and the northern side of the Black Sea from the seventh to the 10th centuries.
Khazar Jews (Turks) came from the Caucasus and spread through Eastern Europe and Western Europe. In this case, the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic and this has major implications for anti-Semitism and Zionism. The Khazars are not the original Jews from Samaria and Judea of the Old World but Turkish converts from the Caucasus.
No@@couldbe8348
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars
Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history.
Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery.
The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted.
To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds
Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion
Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
I think of the quote from the Wako guy David Karesh.
Something to the effect of, "when the people find out how long they have been lied to, they will revolt with blood running in the streets."
Arthur Koestler wrote the book The Thirteenth Tribe. Surely the argument they have a right to the land cannot be maintained if they have no dna connection to Judah. Otherwise anybody could claim to be Jewish and have a right to it. We have so many whites claiming aboriginal heritage Iin Australia with its financial benefits.
Some DNA evidence does not put Ashkenazi in the Levant. Anybody can cook up DNA evidence. Some racist even claim Ancient Egyptians were not black African despite tons of eye-witness evidence from the Ancient Greeks who actually saw them. People will twist facts to suit their own political agendas. The racist apartheid system in South Africa argued that the white settlers landed in the region same as the blacks. It is a game!
This is the point. It’s the Jewish State. Crazy man stuff
Judaism is a _religion_
jewish DNA - that is but an other name for the jewish race theorie of NAZI Germany
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
@@maxmustermann95871930: We are the perfect race.
2023: We are God's chosen race.
.. they are the same, just have changed names.
Muslims and Jews of Palestine share DNA. Jew. We must love one another. Living together like they did in 1920. Palestine was beautiful and peaceful.❣️
Listen I'm an arab but I advice not to be fool 1920s is totally different with nowadays poisnes you jew are way civilised and intellectual and our tyrants brainwashed us with this backward shit Islam and they live with their families in the western countries so in order to keep us prisoners of our own minds they build a lots of mosques and religious schools
Every human on earth shares over 99.9% of their DNA. It’s a dumb point to make. It’s cultures that define us and Palestine is just as guilty if not more so of demanding genocide as Israel. “From river to sea” as they say… if Arabs won in 1966 Jews would have been driven into the sea. Just as Turkey how that works.
Zionists abuse the science of genetics to serve their settler colonial agenda (See Nadia Abu El Haj, The Genealogical Science: The Search for Jewish Origins and the Politics of Epistemology). Today's Jews are converts and are not the decendants of the ancient Hebrews. The evidence is overwhelming (See The invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand & The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler). Also, you can simply look at Jews faces, Ashkenazi look White, Mizrahi look Middle Eastern, Beta look Black, Morrocan Jews look Morrocan etc.
the zionists are supremacist colinisers hell-bent on power they don' really care about peace and coexistence they want absolute control and domination over land, air and sea in this territory and will not even tolerate the existence of Palestinians in their own homes and land
Professor Dean Phillip Bell, who is dean and professor of Jewish history at Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies in Chicago: “Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West. Despite regional variations and high medieval political instability, in medieval Islam multicultural environments, combined with active engagement in sciences and literature, led to something of an Islamic golden age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments that the once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam have been seriously questioned.”
Dean Phillip Bell, Jews in the Early Modern World. New York, 2008, p. 25.
It matters when said people consider themselves "chosen by God" to "return" to "Is-Ra-El".
One can't exactly return to some place they've never been. Furthermore, just look at the Israeli government, they are 99% Ashkenazi.
I am grateful for elders that speak sence into the world.
Noam Chomsky is correct that human beings create cultural histories of themselves which can in no way diminish their rights as human beings. So too with the Khazar story. It does not matter whether it is historically accurate or not. However, when a people use a cultural history to produce a God-given right to displace another people from their homeland in order to realize a state of their cultural creation then that cultural invention does need to be exposed - not as an anti-Semitic enterprise but as a protection of the rights of innocent Palestinians who have had nothing to do with Jewish experience, history, and identity. Israeli contempt for the humanity of the Palestinians has become the essence of contemporary evil and Netanyahu has become the face of that evil. There are so many noble voices in Israel who know and protest against it. But their voices are drowned out and the US which sees itself as the pre-eminent moral voice of the world has chosen to be complicit in drowning out these voices. Chomsky's voice can still redeem the US if it chooses to listen to him.
The irony is it's the Palestinians who are the descendants of the ancient Jews. Their ancestors converted to Christianity under the Romans and then to Islam under the Arabs.
Not sure what point you are making here. Are you saying the Khazar question is important because:
If modern Jews are descended from Khazars then modern Israel is a cultural invention, not a god-given right and it needs to be exposed to protect the rights of Palestinians;
but
If modern Jews are descended from ancient Israelites, then modern Israel is a god-given right , not a cultural invention and there is no need to protect the rights of Palestinians.
This is different from what Chomsky is saying, which is "We should protect the rights of Palestinians, regardless of who modern Jews are descended from, so the Khazar question is irrelevant".
I don't think the US ruling class concerns itself with morality at all. (Which it wouldn't know anyway.) As warmonger Kissinger said, "We have only interests." Any talk of morality is mere justification for the exploits of empire.
@@wmyst1797 Israel a God given right? 🤣 That is jewish propaganda...we are all equal in God's eyes. Isn't it the jews that had Jesus Christ crucified? You all killed his son and Israels' god given right is eternal hatred.
@@wmyst1797orthodox Jewish people all over the world protest for the rights of Palestinians. They believe that God expelled them from that land and there is no right of return. The Zionist movement has nothing at all to do with religion - it’s a land grab and is now geared up for ethnic cleansing and genocide
I love the fact that many are becoming aware of this scam!
AWARE THAT ITS ANTI-ISRAEL PROPAGANDA? THE FACT ITS A LIE AND HAS BEEN DISPROVEN COUNTLESS TIMES IN MODERN DNA TESTS IS EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, GO READ SOMETHING.
I’ve always thought Choam Nomsky was a scam, what did he do at the island , with Jeffery?
Yes...
@@michaelscrivani2721ask mossad
Sad it so loooong!
I am baffled as to how DNA could be linked to any religion? 🤯
This is a history of people they were scattered in captivity and a group of people who are not them claiming to be them!
this is the logical answer for a person who has no problem with reason, but this doesn't concern today's zionist jews who have mixed two totally opposite theses that normally can't be associated and they seem to have no problem about it. Of course they have, and it leads them to lots of delusional problems and their need to use terrorism when they are confronted to the utter non-sense of their theories, in order to crush the controversies they cannot give a logical answer to.
Religion isn’t Hebrew… Hebrew are a people. That’s exactly the point….
So when you have a religious group that tends to intermarry within themselves and were largely segregated from the surrounding population, it becomes a lot easier to understand. Of course anyone who knows anything would already know this. You don't know this, but you feel comfortable acting like an authority on the subject. Why is that?
Born in England, Culturally im British, history says im Caribbean. My Ancestry is African… can i become Anglo-Saxon??
You Jews are all alike. 😉
DNA may have a lot to do with it if your claiming to be indigenous to an area.
Why don't they just take a challenge against the Palestinans?,.., Stand in front of the sun.
The indigenous one is the one who are more suitable for this hot climate..
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America).
•1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
many israelis look part or more european compared to arab or mediterranean, and is arguably seen in persistent pro israeli, vs neglect of palestinian, bias out of europe itself... is like they enjoy rubbing their biases in the faces, if ppl who had nothing to do with it..
no. it's totally irrelevant. We cannot, simply as a practical matter, recognize such claims, even if the genetic link to 2000 years ago is there. Chomsky agrees with this. (for one, what about the people there from before the Jews? It says in the Torah that the Jews took the land and killed them all.) It's totally absurd. Humanity would not SURVIVE such claims being recognized, so recognizing them cannot be the moral thing to do!
This is a wonderful admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria and does not indicate a “historical right to the land of Israel”. Thus, they must share the land with its original inhabitants. What a wonderful step toward peace!
Kevin alan brook who studied the Khazars for 30 years stated that 1-2 percent of the Khazar converted to Judaism.
you didn't look at Khazar using Google Maps in satellite view....hahahahaha
Maybe it could easier to attain peace if everyone goes back to the homeland of their grandparents: Russia, Germany, Poland, or Palestine.
@AlMaksiki The Mizrahi Jews have lived in the Levant and adjacent areas for thousands of years and about 50 percent of the Israeli Jewish population are Mizrahi Jews ✡️ and its obvious that you don't know the history of the Jews that that lived in Poland and Russia.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. But I hope you are not suggesting that the "admission that their DNA originates from Khazaria" confers on any contemporary Jews a "historical right to the land of Khazaria". Chomsky's whole point in the clip above is that biological descent from people who lived in a certain place hundreds or thousands of years ago is utterly irrelevant to any discussion about territorial rights today, in the 21st century. Either in Palestine-Israel or in the Russian and Ukrainian lands that comprise what was Khazaria over a thousand years ago.
Spoken like a true constructivist... Just that constructivism is the epitome of self-centered thought. While you can recognize the inevitability of having your own perspective being created from your experiences, constructivists take it to a whole new level where they willfully accept fantasy as fact. It makes a huge difference if Askenazi are not descendants of the biblical Jews. Not for me. Not for the Askenazi Jew with his "identity" - maybe. But for the American Evangelical apologists who believes he has to aid God's own people. That that makes a huge difference in terms of world politics.
Absolutely.
I am Israeli Jew and my DNA is 88% Levantine and 12% Iran/Persia... most arabs who claim to be "Palestinians" generally have Arabian/ middle eastern genetics mixed with north african genetics and jewish genetics. we dont base who can live in our country based on genetics. no country does.
I first got introduced to Noam Chomsky back in the 80's. It was an hour long programme on channel 4 in the UK, highlighting excerpts from some of his talks where he describes the structures and mechanisms of injustice. I had never heard anything like it before and I was literally entranced by him. The way he could calmly and rationally disassemble all of the accepted beliefs and assumptions of how the world was run and unassailably turn it all on it's head. Such an intellect and such a good man. In the end, all he does is fight for what's right. I love him.
I would love to watch that
Though the idiots running the world don't listen to him, I still dread thinking of a world without his sage voice - wish he could live forever
He is a true Saint...Common sense and truth as it should be. He understands how hate works. We are all from the same source
We used to use his books and theories at university in the 70s. The horror!
Well you should learn about him a little more. He is a genocide denialist twice - first instance is a famous one and regards to Khmer Rouge genocide. The second one is not common knowledge - he questioned genoside in Srebrenica. Furthermore he lectured East European Countries why it was so wrong to get rid off Soviet Rule. On a footnote Marxist as Chomsky are very good in pointing out the misdeeds of capitalist society they will however turn a blind Eye to every atrocity which they will find justifiable on grounds on their PHILOSOPHIE. So I would not discourage you from listening to Chomsky but find a little bit more about him. On UA-cam there is one hour long inquiry titled “ why Chomsky is Garbage “ made by PhD from Austria. You will find disturbing footage with Chomsky denying Srebrnica genocide.
I feel like the underlying point is that it doesn't matter. Having distant Levantine DNA from 1000+ years ago doesn't give you the right to return and displace a group of people that also are indigenous to the area. If I discover my DNA is Yoruba or Akan, that doesn't give me the right to come to Ghana or Nigeria and forcibly displace the people living there. Even when I am only a few centuries removed from that ancestry in the Americas (compared to 1000 years after Ashkenazi Jews left Levantine). I have to immigrate through legal channels like everyone else. Also DNA claims from 1000 years ago is useless, especially when you consider the dynamic immigration patterns of people over the centuries.
The silly part is, only a few olive growers were there to begin with. But freebies from the UN enticed tons of people to go and declare themselves 'Palestinians'. So most who are there just hopped in for the ride.
@@RawOlympiaAbsolutely flat out misinformation bullshit, but thanks for your contributions in spreading propaganda for a fascistic apartheid ethno-state.
@@Corc-Duibhne I have no skin in the game, just odd that it was all started by the ultra liberal United Nations and pushed for by progressives and now they bellyache about what indeed they pushed on the world. Not sure where you get your info, that nutty marxist prof or what, but it's true, grifters flooded in for the freebies.ua-cam.com/video/LwryDZvNeK4/v-deo.html sadly, both nations are in the top ten for inbreds, so, glad to not be part of it.
750,000 palestinian refugees (the largest refugee crisis in recorded history) and their over 400 demolished palestinian towns prove you are a fool @@RawOlympia
@@RawOlympia Why do you claim to be a researcher and talk about conspiracies when you support these conspirators? Such as Satanists and those in charge of the mind control project
They are behind the establishment of Israel and you are like them
Mr.Chomsky has aged!
Long live to the wise man! 🇯🇵
A wise man indeed!
what are your thoughts on the Excerpt of a lecture by Dr. Jon Entine on the ancient Hebrews and DNA?
The reason the question of whether they are descended from a Turkic people is important is simply because it cuts through the bullshit that Jews are a Race AND a religion. It also deals with the deep-seated myth that God gave Jews Palestine which allows a New York Jew whose origin is Khazaria to claim he or she is returning to a land God gave him or her. In other words, it's the height of Chutzpah to claim the status of both. In other words, as Chomsky says, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew - but it has nothing to do with the so-called 12 Tribes of Israel, and the imbecilic claim that Israel is a 'race' and a religion. You don't, for example, have Muslims or Catholics claiming they are a Race and a people - they understand they comprise multiple ethnicities and therefore have no claim of or right to found a country in which only Catholics or Muslims can live at the expense of the original inhabitants. Only Israel - in this crazy world we live in - tries to impose its Fantasyland on the world, and most of all, the Palestinians.
I remember the first time someone tried to claim to me that Jewish people were a race. Race is enough of an abstract concept but to claim it based on belief in fairytales is ludicrous.
It seems to me that designating oneself as a separate race is exactly the sort of thing that real anti-semites (i.e., Nz's) can latch onto to exterminate a self-described group of people. If you're only a religion, you can convert -- or pretend to -- as some Jews did in Spain during the Inquisition. It seems self-destructive to want to be seen in racial terms.
@@MrDesmondPot But it is based on fairytales of a sort. What makes a Jewish person a Jew? Somebody who participates in the culture of Judaism. But here's the problem that dieter and I have.. If I came to your home and said "God made a promise to my family and this is MY HOUSE"... would you just say "Okay"? Because that's the reason why Israel is located where it is. Because in their religious text, that has talking snakes and magical angels and demons, and magic spells and divine intervention by some god, and they have other gods btw, they lay claim to that territory. Isn't that something that would be thought of as insane but for the fact that so many of us came from a Judeo-Christian background so we normalized it.
I'll put it into context. The Americans claimed some manifest destiny ownership claims on the north american continent. Committed various crimes against humanity as well as genocide. Now, we have an entity called the USA. But was that correct? Did the americans actually have some god given claim to that land? Did the Belgians? The French? The Brits?
And if so, does Russia have a right to Ukraine? And to all the other countries that were part of the USSR?
I don't know where you're from, but I bet I can find a prior claim and then, what will you do? Will you just accept some highly dubious claim over your lived experience?
You may think that it's silly to conflate race and ethnicity. But that's what the Israeli government is doing. They import Russian Jews (aka white people) but they deny other groups who claim Jewish heritage. Oh.. by the way, the other group has darker skin.
I've come to the realization that Israel is a white ethnostate. It should not be supported until it starts getting a little more humane. (look up how Israelis treat asylum seekers who aren't white. I hate racists. I won't give the state of Israel a pass just because they had a holocaust. Loads of people have suffered. Look up what happened in the Belgium Congo as an example. Look at what happened in the US. That's what happens when you let racists flourish.)
Get back to me when you can explain why I should respect a text that has talking snakes, magical aliens, ludicrous magical acts such as frogs, and a host of other nonsense. Also, explain why I can't hold the current Israel nation, that claims this text as their foundational reason, liable for the genocide of the original Caananite inhabitants? If they want to be held by that book, I have no problem throwing that book right at them. I'd like to see them make atonement to the victims of that ancient genocide. Fair's fair.
There is DNA evidence to link Jewish people back to the Middle East. The diaspora shows us this as well. It’s not fairytales based on the Bible, it’s history.
@@jenniferhunter4074 Easy...that book made the West.
Stuff that isn't up for debate: one day the Emperor of Rome decided if he won this battle he'd convert, and he won so he did. He then allowed his empire to. Magically even though their own culture was very war like and very successful at doing that they for some reason did. This lead to that culture flourishing over everyone else and allowing them to dominate the world. In their domination they uplifted everyone and drug the entire planet into the modern era. Then doubt began to creep in and the West is falling apart. Either way you can go down the science path to explain this whole phenomenon like Darwin and the eugenicists did and claim it's because the white man is superior or you can go down the religious path. Either way the entire world's history is some sort of group who generally is associated with that book in some way ends up dominating the world. If it was a movie you'd say "it's probably that book" but because that means you'd have to follow what that book says you won't.
As for the Canaanites and their relatives the Carthaginians just remember it wasn't just the God of the Hebrews who hated them, it was the Greeks, and the Romans. Hard to like people who sacrifice their kids to gods but what do you expect they worshipped a goddess? I cry for their extermination about as much as a I do for the Nazis, Aztecs, Soviets, etc. I know archaeologist try to claim when they find their burial sites that clearly are filled with ash and children's bones that it couldn't have possibly be what 3 different races/religions said it was but mind you all 3 of those groups fought each other as well so it seems odd they'd all work together to lie about child sacrifice.
So you'd want to hold modern jews libel for the minor part in what the Romans mostly did and what most people to this day are OK with having occurred.
I will never understand how Jewish people are a separate race. A separate culture and religious beliefs, though, just like any other group of people. They call themselves the Chosen People. I think that pisses many people off because it sets others up as less than them. They think of themselves as a superior human being. I see no difference in anyone else. Not all of them think that way, but it’s there. And it draws in a lot of hate and resentment from others. I am hearing many of them referring to Palestinians as rats who deserve death. Then when they are called out, they play the victim. The same goes for the anti-Semitism card they throw around to ward off criticism. Everybody is afraid to say anything because of that card being played. Now that most of the world is supporting Palestinians, they are crying victim again. It’s just bizarre.
It is not a race. It is a culture and a religion. They want to believe they are a race as "God's chosen people." And at the same time, many people will deny that Jews are not a race for their agenda. Fact is that the Jewish race is a complete myth.
You should start by separating the facts from the fiction for yourself. First being that the Jewish people are not their own race, they are Europeans. Religion and culture is also questionable because as said before they are Europeans, most Jewish people are either coverts to Judaism or descendants of coverts. And it goes on and on that every narrative of their origin falls apart with even a little scrutiny. Which is why they throw around the antisemitism slur to shut down debates and put the critics on the defensive.
You know nothing
Project your own failings much.@@marylamb3194
"chosen people" is just a fairytale - they murdered, pillaged, destroyed, razed cities, killed livestock, stole & raped all in the name of their god and claim to be "holy" and "chosen" - and by descent aren't even genetically semitic - now we can add lying to the list...
It makes a huge difference about where your roots are really from. If one says they are from X and they are from Y., we can call that what it is...
Remember when Chumpsky said it’s “none of our business” what his relationship with epstein was?
So, did a DNA test show that Chomsky and Epstein are related?
All good except when people in power attempt to use the 5000 Year old BS that it was their land so get out...thats where the line is crossed and we should send them to the nuthouse, not $$$$
I can buy 5000 year old carbon-14 dated papers and write fairy tales on it, it doesn't mean this is 5000 years old history.
•1492, European colonialism: We discovered Atlantica (America).
•1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism..
@@Ishi79 Hey, did you know your ancestors were in LAS VEGAS 8000 years ago. That means, it belongs to you and you can now get the police to go help you kick out the owners and take over CAESARS PALACE on the Strip! Really... apparentely, that's the new logic for the 21st Century
I’m so glad you guys get it! But they also want to fulfill the rest and worse of their biblical fantasies.
@@Ishi79 EXACTLY!!!!
"and talking about what happened in the bible is not going to help"
Noam Chomsky
Wow, you also picked up on that quote? Good for you! Here’s why he said that:
He’s right:”what happened in the Bible is NOT going to help”. Because these jew(ish)/ashkenazi/khazars/amalekites/edomites/Esau’s descendants know that they are NOT the chosen people of the book. Furthermore, the future judgement(s) awaiting them: Obadiah 1-21; Isaiah 14:1-2, 21; Ezekiel chapters 34, 35 & 36; Malachi 1:1-5; Romans 9:11-13; Hebrews 12:16-17; Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 13:10; etc.
@@DGtheLevite
@@HuHWhat-yi8cp all praises and glory to the Most High Yah, our Power!
Khazar Turks; It was a community of people who were science-loving, humane, interested in religious matters, and tolerant. DNA doesn't matter. If current Ashkenazi people have these features, they are Turkish. Otherwise, they have lost their Turkishness.
I use to believe in the Khazarian Hypothesis . However the lack of Turkic share words in Yiddish seems to argue against it. In addition, the presence of paternal markers e1b1b in 20 to 30 percent of Ashkenazi males along with the j1 and j2 paternal markers would seem to argue for a Near Eastern origin paternally for the male lineage.
With all that said the idea that modern Jewry descend from a single male ancestor 3000 years,ago is ridiculous IMO. And doesn't the Zionist case for a right to modern Israel depend that lineage?
1) Khazar theory makes a certain amount of sense. They had a huge trade network and then got attacked by Rus from the North and other Turkic peoples from the East. They weren't on friendly terms with the Muslim caliphate to the South so clearly the only place the survivors could have gone is West into Eastern/Central Europe.
2) Anti-Palestinian arguments purposefully take advantage of Westerners not understanding the concept of Arabization. Conquered peoples took on the language and cultural elements but it's not like they were bred out of existence. Palestinians looks super different from Gulf Arabs and I'd wager they have more Abrahamic DNA than someone who has supposedly been in Europe for two millenia. Even the Biblical accounts point out that the Israelites were constantly intermarrying and sharing culture with the people they were supposed to be fighting. I'd be really interested in seeing a bunch of double-blind DNA tests done in a country with no stake in the matter(maybe a small Buddhist nation in Asia?).
That's correct. also many of the inhabitants of Palestine converted to Judaism (Maccabees wars) then later most of the jews themselves converted to christianity in that particular region, followed by conversion to Islam a few centuries later. there was no record in history of a massive expulsion of jews from Palestine as they claim. and those who immigrate to Europe were accused and ironically expelled from Rome because of their missionary activities. so you can imagine how many jews converts there are that now being all considered a blood descendants of the 12 tribes. it's more likely that someone in current Palestine named Mohammad has more DNA shared with king David (if existed) than Sharon Stone (if any)
@@creoken8772 There were two mass expulsions, the first was the result of Persian conquest. The second was after Roman's oppressed the Jewish rebellion, during the second(some say third) destruction of the Solomon's temple.
@@Phronesis1037You mean Herod's Temple?
OK I have a few responses to some of the things you said.
1) "They weren't on friendly terms with the Muslim caliphate to the South so clearly the only place the survivors " This implication that they were being killed, for there to be survivors, is not substantiated whatsoever. There was discrimination sure, but no evidence of massacres for there to be survivors. In fact Baghdad was a place for Jewish learning under the Abbasids. There was also none of the ghettoisation that occurred in Europe in the medieval ages.
2)
- You saying double blind makes absolutely no sense in this context, a jew is obviously going to know they are a jew and the same for a Muslim. So you can only blind the test one way.
-We already have very credible DNA tests, that indicate high continuity from ancient Levantine until modern day for the Palestinians. Jews also have high amounts of Middle Eastern markers, but as you can imagine have European ones as well.
- Suggesting "a small Buddhist nation in Asia" is also just odd. That isn't necessary in the least, there are plenty of other neutral parties in countries that are specialists in DNA testing; the vast majority of DNA science is done in America and Europe. Just because American foreign policy is biased doesn't mean a scientific institution is.
Exactly, many Westerners don't seem to understand that Arabization was a gradual cultural-religious process, not a population replacement, and don't seem aware of the fact that in the Arabic speaking world, especially amongst Muslims, claiming Arabian lineage is a cultural norm and considered desirable because if its religious significance. As far as Israelites go, scholars can't prove or disprove where they came from - some think they came from outside (Ur of The Chaldees), as mentioned in theyre own origin story, some think they were from the area, and others think they could be a combination, but what can be proved, if it matters, is that there were other groups in the Levant before they're arrival.
To be clear, Jewish people do have roots in the area, but so do others, and this attempt to over state one layer of heritage more than the other gives a skewed impression, and as noted by Ben-Gurion, Palestinians are also descendants of ancient Hebrews.
Before I begin, I am neither Arab nor Isrealis. I lament for the civilians on both sides who have been killed and / or injured. Especially the children on both sides, and the women and children who are left as widows and orphans on both sides.
I've arrived at the same conclusion in my 30's. The Isrealites are "A" lost people, and today, we do not know who they truly are, neither do they know they are. (Possibly, an ethic group of black/dark skinned people. However, no one truly knows.) These people who call themselves Isrealis are people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, yet most of them don't know that. (Except for a few who have studied the past and are honest with themselves. As well as a few of those who have a vested interest to continue to deceive all of their people into believing otherwise."
Continuing on, sometime, in the distant past, Isrealite "missionaries" ventured into the Caucasus region and came across a group of people who were open-minded to be taught and emulate a new culture. Thereafter, they accepted Judaism: the traditions, rituals, practices, religion, etc. as their own. Later, as those "missionaries" died out: a new generation born afterward mistakenly believed they were the people of the Torah/Bible, as the Isrealite "missionaries" were long forgotten by then.
Abraham and Sarah are from the eastern Middle East of what is today called Iraq (Babylon). Issac's wife, Rebekah, is from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Jacob's wives, Rachel (his favorite), Leah, and his 2 concubines (the handmaidens to the sisters) are from where Abraham and Sarah originated from. Today, the people of Iraq are a lighter shade of brown due to back and forth conquests between Minor Asia, Africa, and Mediterranean Europe. However, back in Abraham and Sarah's day, these people were a darker skin shade of brown.
The people who are assuming an identity that is not theirs, who identify as Isrealis: to our common sense of sight, are obviously of European descent!!!
None of the patriarchs were darker Skin. They were of the Aryan race which migrated into Europe. The Dead Sea Scrolls tell you what Sarah looked like!Brown people are the invaders of the Israelites. Jews are of Esau and not Jacob.
I disagree with you about the color theory ... look at the map of the world: Fo you think really that white people are just and were just from Europ??!! Also, the Civilizations in Iraq and Syria back to thousands of years BC and land of indigenous and immigrations from different places
The late president of Egypt Jamal Abdul Nasser, once taunted them saying, 'They were dark skinned 2000 years ago, when the Romans drove them out, and now, they have come back white'.
I have Jewish ancestry via my maternal grandmother's family. They were all fair skinned and with red hair. Not really a physical attribute you'd likely see in anyone from the Middle East or Mediterranean.
We Have the same in North Africa with Muslim Berbers thinking they're Arabs...
Why can't I source a UA-cam lecture by Dr. Jon Entine on the ancient Hebrews and DNA on Disqus?
His knowledge and intelligence do not prevent him from sometimes saying something stupid and staying alive .
The truth hurts, huh??? Get therapy to deal with the realities of life.
It makes a big difference. The Israelis claim the right of return to the land that God gave to the "seed" of the biblical patriarch Abram ; from whom they claim descent. The Ashkenazis are descended from Mongolian/Turkish Khazars, thus have no relation to Abram and no biblical claim to the land of Palestine. They are the people described in Revelation 2:9, "those who say they are Jews and are not, ...".
The problem with ancestral theory is that it does not answer the ancestry of say the Yemeni Jews or Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews). The Ethiopian Jews are clearly Africa. Interestingly, they practice the Judaism we know in the bible.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry?wprov=sfti1#1806%E2%80%931918
It is scientifically and genetically not proven that the Jews descend from the Khazars. And concerning your quote from the Christian Bible: here are the real origins of 2000 years antisemitism starting with John. ( probably written in 200 AC).
Judaism is a _religion_
jewish DNA - that is but an other name for the jewish race theorie of NAZI Germany
•European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairytale history and fake archeology.
•The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairytales, are European colonialism.
So … facts matter and facts do not matter… That’s brilliant, Mr. Chomsky.
Yeah, but he never says anything except in that firm yet calm didactic tone of voice that indicates he is inarguably correct in all ways.
Yeah, it’s his enlightened seer’s voices. It’s all show, but little substance
@@moustinguett Chomsky speaking in a neutral monotone way is a show. That's a new one.
@@cp9105 nothing new there. It’s as old as religions. And priests are most convincing when they forget they’re acting or better yet when unaware they’re in character
well who hasnt used a classic 'yeah that may be so BUT' when they have no actual facts backing their desired outcome. classic word salad follows
Thank you for that sir. 💯 Salom.
Of course it wouldn't matter if not for the fact that millions of 'Jewish' people are claiming their historic homeland is Israel, and that they have a divine right to return.
I mean if a bunch of Mormons claim to be the lost tribe of Israel, don't think they'd get a passport to the Holy land
Same as Rastafarians claimed to have a divine right to return to Ethiopia for example, when it was obviously pointed out that their claim to be of Ethiopian extraction had no basis in reality.
From a religious point of view of course it doesn't matter as religions are by their nature fantastical, but when religious rights begin to cross over into the very real world of political rights, such tendentious claims take on a greater significance,
Does it matter? I dare say it matters to the Palestinians being currently forced from their homes to make way for the alleged pale-faced children of Abraham.
Which is not to say that Jews with little genetic connection to the Middle East should suffer persecution or not even be granted a homeland as protection from future genocidal attacks,
after all, even if their Judaism is a later construct or revival, it's at least as old as Islam, but perhaps that homeland can be located somewhere that isn't in the heart of the middle east.
Perhaps only Jews with a large Semitic DNA profile should have the right to stay in Palestine.
The Mormons do have a Holy land,,Its in Missouri,,,,And they are showing up fro Utah.
SOME JEWS BEEN LIVING SIDE BY SIDE PALESTINIANS UNTIL ANGLO SAXON PUT THEY ASS IN THERE
I have always greatly admired Noam for his intellegence, rational coherence, and not least for his undiminished defence of the underdog. Having said that, I believe that in this particular case he is somehow off the mark.
It is factual that we live in world of cultural and sometimes mythical constructs and that we usually just go along without making a fuss about them or even paying much attention because they seldom have noticeable repercussions in the real world, not to say tragic repercussions as in this case.
The thing is that in this specific situation we are facing a different beast because it is precisely this cultural-mythical construct of jewishness that is being weaponised to legitimise a criminal settler colonial society as some sort of historical correction.
The brutally criminal treatment of palestinians (as Noam has aknowledged and fought against throughout his life) has to be dismantled at every level of its construct be it cultural, historical or mythical.
The jewish peolple, whatever that means for whoever, can "identify" as jewish, because some cultural tradition, as long as they want - even when they are openly outright atheist. But their "right to return to their historical land" is a scam even if they feel, because of the mythical world they identify with, it is not.
The fact of the matter remains that "jews" are for the most part non-semitic peoples converted to judaism at different moments in time.
Bringing to the forefront the falsehood on which the state of Israel has been built is of paramount importance to defend the right of palestinians to their whole land at both a historical and a practical demension.
I cant see where you disagree with NC
@@mikev4621
Same here.
💯%agree and very very well said!!👍
You just basically agreed on everything Noam said.
@@mikev4621 I disagree with Noam when he is too ready to dismiss the visibilisation of the foundational scam of Israel, namely the right of jews to return to the lands from which they were supposedly expelled 2000 years ago as irrelevant to the present state of affairs.
It is clearly pretty relevant when it is used by most defenders of Israel as one of the main arguments to justify the stealing of palestinian land (state of Israel) and the brutal ordeal of its people (Israel has the right to defend itself).
Everywhere else I agree with Noam.
The Kings Of Khazaria Empire ✡
• 7th century: Bulan Sabriel ✡
• 7th century: Obadiah ✡
• 8th century:︎ Hezekiah ✡
• 8th century:︎ Menasseh ben Hezekiah ✡
• 8th century:︎ Hanukkah ben Obadiah ✡
• 8th century:︎ Isaac ben Hanukkah ✡
• 8th century: Zachariah ✡
• 8th century: Yitzhak ✡
• 9th century: Zevulun ben Isaac✡
• 9th century: Menasseh ben Zebulun ✡
• 9th century: Nisi ben Moses✡
• 9th century: Nisi ben Menasseh ✡
• 9th century: Menahem ben Aaron ✡
• 9th century: Benjamin ✡
• 10th century: Aaron II ben Benjamin ✡
• 10th century: Joseph ben Aaron ✡
• 10th century: David of Taman ✡
• 11th century: Tzul ✡
• 11th century: Seljuk Cohen ✡
• 11th century: Michael Ben Cohen ✡
• 11th century: Israel Ben Cohen ✡
• 12th century: Moses Yabghu ✡
• 12th century: Jonah ✡
• 12th century: Joseph ✡
• 13th century: Abraham ✡
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Turkish Kings who Converted to Judaism ✡️
Where can I read that? I thought Khazaria existed for 3 centuries only..
where’s all the synagogues then
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Territorially, theologically, culturally, even biologically, the Israelis have little claim to Palestine.
The khazar are Turkic people converted to Judaism, after the fall of khazaria they moved to Europe and mixed with Slavs and Germans
They also have significant Iranian DNA.@@user-si4nt5gt9b
@@user-si4nt5gt9b my self I believe that , you can take the Magyar people who moved to Europe and founded Hungary, Magyars were parts of Khazaria , in nowadays lot of Jews among theme, Sarkozy ex French president as example, a Magyar jew
No its not true they didnt mix they became Kazakhs and other turkic people
No it is lies its not true - they stayed in Central Asia and became Kazakhs
Between the 1100's and 1300's many Ashkenazi Jews moved to Poland and there are two reasons for this one was the increase in Pogroms which includes blood libel and putting poison in the wells even though they drank the same water and between the 1100's and 1300's various polish Kings inacted laws favorable to Jews and Casimir the great reinforced these existing laws and Jews had a safe haven in Poland.
He doesn’t deny that it could be true. He merely says it’s irrelevant. This is like Chomsky when asked about Israeli Mossad involvement in 9.11. He doesn’t deny it, he just says it’s irrelevant.
Whether you think he is right or wrong is up to you.
Chomsky, a Ukrainian Khazar. DNA denier Chomsky. Laughable.
Their entire basis is that it's the land of their ancestors when it isn't, how on earth is that irrelevant ?
Facts don't matter to Noam. Believing the lie is what matters.
After how many P@|€$+****** were deleted, fled to other nations, jailed and so on?!
It is all very, very relevant, I believe.
Exodus (God) didn't give them that homeland. The Balfour agreement did (man). They're converts and they're lying. Thankfully they didn't get Uganda, then they'd say they're straight African not polish, Germanic, etc. and would be warring with them. Just wow.
Fun fact: all Israeli PMs were of white european slavic ancestry.
No Khazaris are Turkic not Slavic
Fun fact: you don't know that
@@AmaanKhan-kc8ty Fun fact: it is not.
Did you do a DNA test on the prime ministers of Israel?
If Noam Chomsky says it was so long ago it doesn’t matter, you know he’s hiding something. Everything matters.
*I agree. History can't throw out time stamps.*
Absolutely agree
It doesn't matter because you can't just ethnically cleanse people and pretend you have a right to the land ,,,, you know something we are all indigenous to Africa let's lead a barbaric wars and claim its ours ,, let the indigenous people in us ethnically cleanse European,,, all you have to do is stop the apartheid stop the genocide and let people live together,,,,,, why the fuck ethnically cleanse some so some can live ,,, that's Monstrous, ,,,!!! Plus palestinian are the land land owners and they belong to the canaanites that were even before Judaism so you still lose the battle if we go back in history,,,,, you are not the chosen people stop the hallucinations,,,, with your actions you are probably chosen people of hell
Maybe missed the point: that deep history does matter for knowing the past, but does not matter for modern definitions of nation-states and international law; DNA and scrolls don't give group J the "right" to dispossess group P from where they'd been living.
@@KCW-NYC
Israel shouldn’t be there. That’s what it tells me.
In his latest speech aimed at convincing the Israeli public of the necessity of war, netanyahu refers to the Bible, specifically the war against Amalek. If not as a call for the genocide of the Palestinian people, what does this appeal mean?
achbar solem moehammuslarryandcurly
The joke of Netanyahu's statement is that the so called Jewish people are the Amalekites.
I heard the man is an atheist that is quoting the Torah to justify Zionist war crimes which goes to the absurd ideology of Zionism!
Jews by faith but Khazar by DNA. SIMPLES!!!
What he's saying is, " I took yo shit and so what, now do something about it" his honesty should be credited.
Noam Chomsky can debunk any religious tosh thrown at him. The man is a pure genius!
Except for his abject disaster on Covid. Brought to you by Phizer.
No. He’s deeply flawed on several major issues, and he completely misses the point of this question, which is: how can Jews living today claim a right to a Jewish state in Palestine if they’re not descended from ancient Israel? Israel’s claim to legitimacy is founded on the belief that the Jewish people have returned to their ancient homeland after 2,000 years. But if the modern European Jews are not descended from the ancient Israelites, but instead from the Khazars, then what right to they have to the land of Palestine? I think it’s a serious question and Chomsky dismissed it out of hand.
Don’t idolize him. He’s not all that great. When asked about 9/11 bring an inside job, he dismisses the matter out of hand as a “conspiracy theory”and finally says “who knows and who cares.” In fact, it’s an enormously important question, and the evidence is overwhelming that it was an inside job and that Israel was deeply involved. For all his criticism of Israeli mistreatment of the Palestinians, he remains a Zionist and he opposes BDS.
Likewise, he dismisses the argument that President John Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA as a silly “conspiracy theory” when it’s obviously true.
He advocated for Covid lockdowns and mandates and said that those who refused to get vaccinated should be forced to stay in their homes and be denied access to society.
Nothing to admire there.
@@syourke3 They are not Semites. They are Kazhar converts. A nomadic 'Turkish/Asian' people. They have NO connection to Palestine. None at all.
*Added*
Usury, perversion, subversion, and identity theft. Over and over again with these people. I don't care what anyone calls me. It is the truth and the truth is just the truth.
@@defender714 And 9/11. He was completely wrong about that.
“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” Gamal Abdel(1952) 2nd President of Egypt Gamal Nasser (Quote about fake jews currently in Israel) Gamal Nasser was the leader of Egypt from 1954 until his death in 1970.
Christian Zionism also to be blamed for all the death and destruction happening right now...
Basically, he admits the theory is right by not answering this question. Those people have no more claim to Palestine than another other Russians.
This man is so sensible, I could listen to him for hours. He is so wise.
So wise. Historical Moses might or might not existed? And he claims to be a Jew. Obviously he is a different kind of Jew. Bible is irrelevant. He is a total fool.
That’s why he never gets invited on top news station. We have to listen to trash like Rogan or Candace Owens. Very sad indeed.m
Why do you even bother to listen to them?@@terrymckenzie8786
He usually gets it right. Not coofid though.
he LIES about 9/11, and covid
Okay I caught this right away with Moses comment. He is saying whatever the truth may be they have made a dual truth to support who they claim to be. There can be an historical Moses (if he ever existed) and they have made their own Moses. Amazing, they will live and die with this type of thinking, knowing they have been called out for their obvious lie. Astonishing!
how about the fake jesus ?
True.
@@loupasternakOur redeemer real name is Yashua who the world calls Jesus Christ...
I grew up in northern México, land of cowboys. My father, my grandfather, all the gentlemen wore cowboy hats, as a kid they taught me that cowboys never lie, shake hands vigourously as only men do and are blunt for speaking, and the most sacred quality, take care of their women and children. I had always worn my cowboy hat with pride, all until my teenagehood. When I opened my eyes and learned Cowboys are as humans as yankees, as Mexico City civilized gentlemen and lie, steal, are negligent as every society in this marvelous world. Mr. Chomsky, today your cowboy hat is on the floor.
It means they have no claim
when facts don't care about your feelings...
Man if only our world leaders had half the reasoning & intelligence of this honorable man.🙏
We can't have world leaders that think. Generally. Those who think are gotten rid of. Corporations like medicine, weapons and oil, and others, run countries unfortunately. The banking , lending and stock market system being a big one too.
Horrible man you mean not honourable.
Anybody that advocated for those who didnt take the Covid vaccine to be segregated from society like prisoners is not an honourable man.
Yes thats what he said & then said when it was pointed out they would need feeding that "Thats on them".
These so called world leaders know all that...but they are not after the truth . They are after the class interests of their masters or of their own, if they are from the ruling classes, like the bushes and Trumps . Remember all the wars they initiated and initiate...in order to justify their criminal deeds and get support from an already predisposed population (in all of the imperialist countries), they fabricate narratives in order to manufacture the desired consensus .
Except on Covid vaccines, where he took the corporate lies hook, line, and sinker, probably due to fear of dying, which was also based on lies, as Covid did not do much more than speed up already inevitable deaths. There was no significant extra risk of death with Covid due to age alone. Covid risk is with comorbidities; not with age. It just so happens that comorbid people get more comorbid as they age, so most of the most comorbid people are elderly.
Noam would have had people like me who did their homework and found that the vaccines were worthless and fairly unsafe starve to death, to protect people like him. I lost a lot of respect for him then.
Then they wouldn't be world leaders. To be a leader in this world means to have a dark triad personality.
It makes a huge difference since Christians base Israel claim to Holy Land is based on promise God made to Abrahams descendants..
It changes everything.
Oh look, it’s the old dude who said me and my family should be banished from society, left to die because we didn’t take an experimental drug. No respect for this hack after that display.
To sum up this and the other times he's addressed it, his primary response to Khazar theory is "Who give's a f***?"
That statement is an absolute deflection.
It's also exactly what Isaac Asimov said about his heritage.
Summarizing something usually means you need to understand what the person is saying first. You clearly don't so maybe you should watch the video again and pay attention this time
It is like the Chechens they are Muslim Sunni but ethnically they are from the Caucasus region.
From what i've seen Ashkenazis can literally be of any ethnic background, I seen one who was dominantly French, another Eastern European, another literally all of Europe, East and West. The reason why they say "Dude, we're only Middle Eastern, bro!" is taught in support of Israel.
Or maybe it's because Ashkenazi Jews trace their ancestry back to the levant?
Chomsky is mistaken by one thing DNA matters very much as they claim to be an ethnicity not a culture, so DNA matters the most here and they are not semits I.E not real jews.
An ethno-religious group to be more precise. Look up the DNA studies... there is European admixture in some Ashkenazim, but also a clear and distinct connection to all other Jewish populations. Avail yourself of the science.
@edwardkantowicz4707 provide the study, if you are referring to a less than 1% heritage that all humans share then you are as all other zionists cherrypicking, it's a well know fact ashkinazy jews have no semite DNA, at best they have some khazar relations, and even the khazar are not semites macking them fake jews too, so i would ask you to avail yourself of the science little lying zionist.
You didn't understand the point he was making. You should watch the video again and pay attention this time
Makes a huge difference to ethnonationalists (aka racists) in Israel, like Netanyahu and his far right extremists.
I have a serious question. How does one square the concept of a "Chosen People "with Democracy? I have had dear friends of all persuasions and I am curious, not trying to make a point. Thank you
Wow. DNA doesn’t matter as long as there narratives does. Isn’t there something wrong about that? Huh 🤔. I guess we should thru out the biblical story too.
he's correct. DNA doesn't matter, thinking it does is PURE fascism and nativism. Invalid, immoral, and unacceptable.
He's strayed into the field of mythology. Paging Joseph Campbell! They literally have a Luciferian symbol on their flag.
DNA tests are outlawed in Israel this tells a lot about the scam
He really dropped the ball on ethics during the pandemic... I dont trust him though he says a lot of interesting, well thought out stuff.
He showed his true colors, as did many, during the scamdemic. I've had little respect this this dude for a long time but that was it as far as I'm concerned. This is what happens to intellectuals when they have a life of praise over their study discipline, in his case linguistics, they suddenly think they are the final authority in all things and all topics.
AND his vocal drone affectation that effects ALL academics, but him especially, is on the far side of annoying.
Mans a scumbag that advocated for segregated the non vaxxed & I quote him "Like we do prisoners" & then said "Well thats on them" when it was pointed out that prisoners need feeding.
He's being completely ignorant to this very important question too.
Chomsky, an anarchist, counsels people to vote Democrat in every US presidential election. This is bad advice for a lot of reasons...but so what? Chomsky is human and makes mistakes and sometimes he's even a hypocrite. FWIW I didn't agree with his position on Covid and there are other instances where I don't see eye to eye with him. But he almost single handedly red-pilled, as the kids say, an entire generation of people on US foreign policy and Israel's crimes against the Palestinians and taught them the importance of thinking "outside the box" and challenging conventional wisdom and the propaganda used to sell it. His eloquent and succinct defense of free speech ("If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech") from the Manufacturing Consent film is priceless and sounds almost subversive in today's paranoid and authoritarian political climate.
I really dislike the "with us or against us" attitude that prevails, where if a person says one thing I disagree with or is wrong about something...this makes them a fool, a dupe etc. and I should cast everything they have ever said or written into the trash bin. It's anti-intellectual and a kind of self-imposed cancel culture of the mind. It is also just plain silly...if I only read or respected the words and ideas of writers and thinkers I 100% agree with all the time on every issue, that would be a very short reading list indeed.
The power of words can create that which does not exist. ABRACADABRA!!!!!
As to the origin of the Jews in Palestine today are those Jews derived from Eastern Europe are not descendents of the Judeans, or the lost tribes of Israel but rather descendents of the Khazars, a nation most people do not even know of..
Furthermore the so-called or self-styled Jews in Eastern Europe in modern history cannot legitimately point to a single ancient ancestor who ever set foot on the soil of Palestine in the era of Bible History..
DNA analyses of both Jewish and Palestinian populations show a direct genetic heritage going back thousands of years to the original inhabitants of the Levant.
They are basically the same people, separated by accidents of history.
It is most likely that today's Palestinians were Jews, Jewish descent Christians, or Samaritans who converted to Islam after the Arab conquest. Ashkenazi Jews show some ancestral intermarriage with central Europeans, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews maintained a purer connection, while a portion of today's Palestinians have a slight connection to Arabs through intermarriage.
This small piece of land is the ancestral home to both Jews and Palestinians.
They are caphtor (Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7)
@@cysmcaleb8411 By DNA evidence, Jews and Palestinians are the same people, divided by accidents of history. Forced diasporas and conversions to Islam.
No, they are not.
@@piscesman54 A person can choose to deny the science. But it is still the science.
@@stephenbailey9969 Science can be bought and paid for. In fact, more often than not, it is, especially when there are political issues at stake. There have been multiple reports on the matter. Some done by Israelis themselves, that are contrary to the nonsense you're spewing out in a feeble attempt to lay claim to something that doesn't belong to you and never did.
What's wrong with so many people, Noam Chomsky once again didn't say anything amazing or even true. The boys on this debate weremore accurate and even updated than him and are speaking from the historical and scientific point of view, facts not a personal or a religious opinion-believe. Chomsky is overated, he can fart that people would always say he is a genius. On this debate he kept repeating biased and wrong premises, I am afraid that he was aware of it but kept pushing his classic rhetoric no matter what. Also a bit classless to interrupt the other person considering his age, status, experience and cultural background. I really think most people are blinded by his intellectual Aura.
One of my brothers got a DNA test that showed we have some Italian genes . Does it mean we have the right to go 'back' to Italy, terrorize a few families out of their homes and take over their land 😂😂😂😂
Basically he is saying, these may very well be lies but they are accepted by culture, so... forget about it (in a Steinfeld voice).
It only matters when people try to claim other people's land, based on the idea that their ancestors actually originated there, and therefore they have some claim to it. I may say that I view myself as part of your family culturally, but that don't mean that I can take your house.
It changes EVERYTHING
❤️Chomsky: ‘Israel is sharp discrimination against the Palestinians, illegal settlements in the West Bank, and killing the people of Gaza. Talking about what happened in the Bible is not going to help.’
The Khazars did not convert to Judaism, historian finds
Taken together, Stampfer says, these sources offer a cacophony of distortions, contradictions, vested interests, and anomalies in some areas, and nothing but silence in others. A careful examination of the sources shows that some are falsely attributed to their alleged authors, and others are of questionable reliability and not convincing. Many of the most reliable contemporary texts, such as the detailed report of Sallam the Interpreter, who was sent by Caliph al-Wathiq in 842 to search for the mythical Alexander’s wall; and a letter of the patriarch of Constantinople, Nicholas, written around 914 that mentions the Khazars, say nothing about their conversion
Citing the lack of any reliable source for the conversion story, and the lack of credible explanations for sources that suggest otherwise or are inexplicably silent, Stampfer concludes that the simplest and most convincing answer is that the Khazar conversion is a legend with no factual basis. There never was a conversion of a Khazar king or of the Khazar elite, he says.
Ashkenazi Jews are NOT Khazars
Nine skeletons dating to the 7th-9th centuries excavated from elite military burial mounds of the Khazar Khaganate (in the modern Rostov region) were analyzed in two genetic studies (from 2019 and 2021). According to the 2019 study, the results "confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations". The samples did not show a genetic connection to Ashkenazi Jews, and the results do not support the hypothesis of Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of the Khazars.
One of the great Faqih and Islamic Scholars Nuh b. Sâib el-Esedî and Abdurrahman b. Fulan al-Havlani made great contributions to the conversion of Khazar Khan's close circle to Islam. These were the people who were sent to spread the religion of Islam among the Khazar lands and the Khazar Turks, upon the special request of the Khazar Khan. As a matter of fact, Ibn Asem al-Kûfi, pointing to these auspicious developments, says: "Not only Hakan, the Khazar ruler became Muslim, but also thousands and tens of thousands of people from the city (Etil city) became Muslims, along with his family, close circle, and Khazar aristocrats." (Ibn Asem al-Kufi, III. p.255). The Khazars had the honor of establishing the first Turkish Islamic State in history.
Jewish Manipulators and many historians could not accept the Khazar Khan and the Khazars' conversion to Islam, they put forward some unfounded views and therefore left the Khazars' Islam to the mercy of some Jewish ambitions, which is an unforgivable historical misery.
The number of these Jews in the Khazar society mentioned in the main Islamic sources is around three thousand. Because of their religious beliefs, they were expelled from Byzantium and took refuge in the Khazar Turkish khanate. In the main sources, there is no narration about the conversion of a single Khazar Turk to Judaism in the presence of these Jewish Rabbis or about religious ceremonies held in this regard. Again, in these basic sources, no information is given about the Khazar Turks, who, unlike Muslims and Christians, accepted Judaism and became a society. Even more ridiculous than that, not a single synagogue was built in the Caspian homelands for these Khazar Turks, whose supposed numbers are expressed in thousands and hundreds of thousands. The Jewish minority has already paid special attention to this, and this feature of Judaism, that is, it is a national religion exclusive to Jews, has always been preserved. they wanted.
To claim that the Khazar Turks became Judaized and to carry out so-called scientific research is to deny historical truths. A farce and hubris that Jewish Manipulators can do is to substitute the Science of History for a perjury.
Beautiful talk. Hope a long life for this man of wisdom and intellect.
He's very old already & probably tired & cynical.
His analysis is always spot on.
How would you feel if you had a huge intellect, a sense of justice & fairness & had given this wisdom over decades.
And few in the end listen to you....?
@@sarahpengelly8439Yes. He’s cast his pearls before swine for decades. I doubt he’ll ever see this comment, but I hope he knows how much he’s loved. ❤❤❤
@@darciswChomsky is going to be judged for perpetuating a lie. He is well aware that his people have no moral title to that land, yet he says it doesn't matter. He is a disgrace.
@@sarahpengelly8439Yes, he's probably quite tired. Decades of lies and obfuscation have no doubt worn him out. He knows that his people are not the nationality to whom God promised the land, but he has made the determination that "culture" is what matters. Foh. This is the most morally bankrupt thing I have ever heard.
So if your grandparents taught you that you are of British descent you are, even if your DNA is 100% Navajo ?
And that’s relevant how?
Yeah, and you can claim that England belongs to you and your family. You know, as long as you identify culturally as British.
Yes, you are correct. This is what I believe Chomsky is saying too. Strange and bizarre reasoning! But why and what does he not want to admit about the "Jews"?
@@simulacrum.ad.nauseam totally relevant to chomsky dismissing the fact the khazars have zero claim on israel
@@Jimi_Lee 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁