10 points to everyone who spotted the mix up with the warranties at the end. The text spec tables are correct - the Hyundai gets five years and unlimited miles, while the Kia is seven years and 100k miles. Apologies.
They gave me 100k or 5 years what ever comes first on my Kona and does anyone else beside me find the Kona headlight have a terrible dark/black spot above the light at night time driving?
The 2020- Kia Soul I think is the same length of the Kona. The spec is similar to the Kia Niro 3&4 with a heat pump an amazing multi speaker Harmon Kardon system. It has the funky looks (well the front) that Tom likes and with the high roof line at the back it has a lot more useful space with the seats down which why I bought one. Also they only are sold in this country as a BEV so they’re easy to spot. Other things you can do is add an after market Froot because of the high bonnet and to finish off recently after a full charge I had an indicated 300 mile range due to an average 4.5miles/kWh consumption despite doing 70 mph on motorways where traffic allowed.
My eNiro came with 10 yr/100k mile battery warranty. Love it. Upgraded and quieter interior than Kona, Bolt, and Leaf. Has the quality and feel of our other car, BMW X1, and better acceleration! Kia used a BMW/Audi designer to redesign its interior. That's was sold us. Easily Getting beteen 4 to 4.5 miles per kW which gives me up to 275 miles. Great car!
Interesting to watch as a very happy Kona owner since December 2018. One thing I would take issue with is the comment on the 11kW on board charger which is a really useful upgrade on the original 7kW one. 22kW AC chargers are pretty commonplace these days - especially in Scotland. Find them to be an ideal option if available at my destination rather than stopping at rapids en route. Drive up to say 250 miles to your destination and then find one of these to plug into whilst you visit friends, go for a meal, go for a walk etc. 4-5 hours later you’ll be close to having a full battery. A key element of the charging infrastructure I’d like to see much more of - hence the power of an onboard charger is well worth noting.
I've had my Niro EV (US) for about 3 months. It's my first EV. I was influenced by MANY positive video reviews and felt like it was a clear choice - cargo space, rear seat room, familiar layout of controls, charging dock in the front. I am very happy with my new car! I appreciate the many thoughtful reviews which guided my choice! I was an early Prius adopter, so this has been an evolution.
Yours is an interesting comment as for me the Prius was the epitome of efficiency and durability. In Europe so many get used as cabs and are renowned for clocking up huge mileages without a problem. My previous car was a Gen 2 (2007) Prius that we bought in the UK and took to France where we live. The Niro replaced it in March 2019 and we now have 52,000 km on the Niro. It is a better car to drive and own in every way than the Prius but only time will tell if it becomes a sort of EV icon. It has certainly blazed the trail as a mid-price, practical EV in the same way that the Prius did for hybrids.
I lived in Calgary, Alberta through last winter, and my 2019 Kona EV lived outdoors in the apartment parking lot all Albertan winter long. I charged up where the ICE cars plugged in their engine warmers! All winter my Kona EV was first out of the parking lot, whatever the temperature, my EV was King. I LOVE MY KONA EV! I agree it is a small space for tall people, but I am 5’ tall and it fits me perfectly!
Good video. But Tom your wrong on the warranty. The Kia has the 7 year warranty and the Hyundai comes with the 5 year warranty. Other than that a good informative video. We have the Kia e niro 4 which we love.
@@YisName i can tell you unlike many cars warranty’s the 7 year warranty kia offer is one of the best in the industry. Apart from the usual consumables and the infotainment system which is 3 years most everything else is 7 years. I have had 7 kia vehicles over the years and as such know the warranty exemptions. Fortunately you don’t need to call on the warranty very often. Hence the reason why they have the confidence to offer it.by the way in the USA it has a 10 year warranty.
Maybe in UK 11 kW is not widely available - but on the continent it is quite common. I have two 11 kW type 2 outlets in a normal house - that's for 2 EV's. 11 kW really makes a difference.
Yep, totally screwed-up the review. These are professional presenters, reviewing cars is their job, they need to get their facts right.....unforgivable. They should amend this video so the true facts ate presented so as not to mislead their viewers.
You guys forgot one regen level, in both cars you can pull and hold the left paddle and that will brake the car all the way to zero, with a really strong regen👍👍👍
It must be different, but in Canada, they both have 8-year/160,000km warranties on battery, powertrain etc. and 5 year warranties on everything else. Ended up getting a Kona as we already had a Hyundai and got some loyalty discounts that made it cheaper, and it has been great so far as our first EV. I don't think anyone will regret getting either car.
Glad you mentioned the Kia Soul EV at the end which which I bought a month or so ago now. The reason ? ...over the Kona and eNiro it came down to wanting a car that had real character/practicality coupled with a great driving experience....and the Soul certainly doesn't disappoint. Getting an easy 250m range which costs around £8 in electricity .. so just over 3p a mile...:-).
@@SuperTobbe12 was in a Kia showroom today and u are spot on ended up putting down a deposit on a Niro even when it was a kona I wanted to begin with dumb me thought I would find a kona in a Kia showroom. Now on UA-cam finding out what I paid for
I wanted to buy one of these last year - couldn't get any positive commitment from Hyundai as Kona is only sold online and the dealers were not interested. The dealers for Kia eNiro were quoting 3 to 4 months delivery. As the VW id.3 had just been launched and the dealers were flooded with them, I bought one and have not been disappointed.
I own a 2020 E-soul and I can easily do more than 500km on a single charge with %80 city driving. Only cold winters my range drops down to 350km - 380km. The maximum estimated range projected was 568km. so far.
I just sat in a Kona, decent in the front seat... but the back seat is TERRIBLY small. If you have a kid... it is too small for that even to be an option. The Kia has 4 inches more of leg room in the back and more head room... which feels massive. For a long term purchase and a growing family, the Kia wins for sure.
Great comparison review of class leasing EVs. I have owned both Kona premium SE, and e-Niro 4 and 4+. Although much is common on power train the batteries are different. Sk innovation in niro and LG in kona The kona has more in common with the Kia Soul EV The kona gives a noisier and jittery ride compared to niro, but you won’t notice it on a 30 min test drive. The niro wheelbase is 8 inches longer. This manifests itself in limo class space and comfort in the rear compared to the very little knee room in kona. You end up with your knees sticking up… The niro is much smoother, quieter, refined and way more spacious. many e-Niro owners in the Kia e-Niro U.K. interest group on FB have reported 300+ miles in summer.
Very good review I owned a Nissan Leaf 40kw for a year as my first full electric car and although the Leaf was a great car to use and own it was not very efficient especially on a motorway run, found myself looking for chargers whislts away from home. I sold the Nissan leaf after a year of ownership and bought a second hand Hyundai Kona 64kw with only 7000miles on the clock and oh what a difference the Korean cars are so efficient and I never have to think about needing to charging my car. On our summer holidays last year we drove from Northamptonshire to the Isle of wight fully loaded with four passengers and never had to worry about battery drain 4.5kw all the way, super car for every day use. Hyundai and Kia have nailed it with these cars no matter what you choose.
Nice review, as others have mentions you have the warranties mixed up between the cars (and Hyundai only has a non controlling stake in KIA) but also you didn’t mention that the batteries, though the same capacity on paper, are by different manufacturers and use slightly different technologies. Hyundai are LG batteries (and some are subject to recall because of files) and the KIA uses SKI for its batteries.
An entertaining review as ever, with a few errors. The e-Niro and Kona are not ‘the same cars wearing different clothes’. The e-Niro shares its ‘hard points’ (wheelbase and width) with the Hyundai Ioniq, whereas the Kona shares its hard points with the Kia Soul. Yes they do have the same motor and battery size but the Hyundai battery is from LG Chem, the e-Niro comes from SK Innovation. Interesting that Hyundai Motor Group have gone with SK for their new platform (Ioniq 5 and EV6). Have owned the e-Niro since March 2019, first batch of cars to come into France where I live...love the car after 46,000 km.
oui tout à fait ça ! je possède une ioniq 28 et souhaite la remplacer dans quelques temps. je voulais rester chez hyundai car je préfère le design ( question de goût ^^) mais le kona est vraiment petit et d'après les retour il n'est pas aussi confortable sur route et autoroute. Je pense partir sur le niro même en 2021 il présente un excellent rapport qualité prix ( en occasion)
@@yassik7414 Je suis content d'avoir de tes nouvelles. Un de mes amis ici dans les Deux-Sèvres a aussi un Ioniq de 28 kWh (2017) avec maintenant 70 000 km et aucun problème. C'est une excellente voiture et devrait avoir la plus grosse batterie que Kona et Niro. Peut-être que le plus récent Ioniq de 38 kWh répondrait à vos besoins?
I don't see how the Niro is old school . I have a 19 Niro hybrid and love it . The Niro looks better inside to me and more expensive. Negative points for no shifter on either car and the tablet sticking out of the top of the dash on the Kona .
It is good to know one important difference :-) Kona has battery from LG Chem (a fire problem has been reported, convening event is now fot that) and Niro has battery from SK Innovation (no problem so far). So my choice would be NIRO :-)
They both share the same drivetrain AFAIK . The batteries are the same size but from different suppliers, Hyundai sources batteries from LG, Kia uses SK cells. That is why the E Niro did not have any recalls but the Kona did.
These kind of videos really good, always enjoy the channels reviews, although there is a paddle for regen and the Kia comes with 7yrs the Hyundai is 5yrs warranty. I have also been enjoying Ur reviews of the second hand EV market. It's probably where most people are going to be shopping for an EV so makes sense to have a channel that covers this part of the market and really helpful to advise people on specs and what to look for etc. Especially with brands that have made subtle changes over the years.
A very interesting comparison. We tried both cars in early 2020 and, as you found, we chose the Niro because it had more rear seat room and was quieter. The appearance didn't really come into it. Thank you very much.
Even though the cars are very similar, there are differences. As someone already pointed out, the battery suppliers are different (LG vs SK) but also, and this is an important thing, the Kia has a 100 mm longer wheelbase than the Kona. That translates to a more composed ride for the e-Niro.
The Kona has the Head Up Display, which the Niro doesn't have. And the HUD is a real plus for me. When getting my Kona, boot and back seat spaces were also a concern as I was hesitating with the Niro. With a year of using the Kona, space wasn't a problem (we're a family with two kids). However, the 20cm shorter length was practical when parking the car in town (in Europe, roads and car parks are smaller than in North America).
Why can’t you get a car these days with seats that fold flat? I remember when you could lift the bottom cushion towards the front seat which meant the backs folded flat. The angled seat backs when folded is frustrating to fill as everything is on an angle.
@Clive Flint agreed! That slope bugs me. I had a Kia C'eed SW that in order to flatten the luggage area, rear seats had to be pulled out and stowed in rear passenger footwell(s). Guessing it must be to do with the cushioned foam and keeping assembly costs down. Wondering if the guru Sandy Munro will advocated inflatable air cushioned seating system!
Good review. You got the warranty information swapped round. But agree with your conclusions. Niro usefully larger,drives well and very well equipped in 4+ trim. Kona drives a little better as felt more agile, has a HUD but is smaller in boot and more cramped in the rear. You pays your money and takes your choice. Both are great EVs and very good cars.
Exactly the same underneath? Just different battery manufacturers. LG vs SK Innovation. Different problems and therefore recalls and possible customer satisfaction. We can be forgiven for thinking these are the same as it's hard to find press coverage that refers to these issues. If you have trust in certain manufacturers or chemistry then they do become important. Thanks for your work, always enjoyable.
Excellent timing for me, I'm looking at both of these or the ID3 for my next car later this year. Personally I'm leaning towards the Kona at the moment.
Like several commenters here i have the Soul and love it. Definitely worth checking out. Main downside is smaller boot (but i think thats similar to Kona) but if you dont need that the smaller size makes it better for parking. I get a genuine 250-275 miles. My brother has an Ioniq, same screen as the Kona and i do prefer the look of that screen to the Soul. The Soul also has very good rear passenger space, better than the Kona. (thats the trade off regards the boot and why its smaller)If you carry rear passengers but dont need lots of luggage space the Soul may be better than the Kona.
I could watch Nikki all day. Defo not sure about the trousers though. Good to see Ginnie.. Good video, and helpful to compare both cars. Once upon a time we used to judge a car on its performance, flexibility, and road-holding, now it is about the size of the touch screen and how it looks on the dashboard and the size of the cupholders. Is this progress lol?!
I think you could have compared a lot more. Lights. Indicator lights. Break lights. Do the hazard lights look decent. And not some flashing dot..!! How the boot door opens & closes. (Some models have a push button on the boot door). Sun roofs. (Some models may have that) Can any hold a roof rack? Battery suppliers. :-).
Cleaver Review. Witty banter and brilliant the way these two boiled down the specs. They did both cars justice and introduced a whole range of things to think about while keep it entertaining and light.
Previous Kona is much better looking than either of these two. What were they thinking of. Premium SE has the heat pump and was not an optional extra either.
I’ve noticed you occasionally make statistical errors in your reviews. In this one you have misstated the boot capacities for the Kona. It has a capacity of 332 litres, not 361, rising to 1,114 with the seats down. Incidentally Hyundai isn’t Kia’s parent company, Hyundai has a 34% stake in Kia, making it the largest shareholder, but without giving it a controlling interest.
We have white pearl eniro 3 and think it is terrific. As l understand it eniro has been very influential both to driver's and motor industry. Feeling good owning a game changer.
Personally, each is slightly better suited to some people's needs than others! But the 2020 Kona wins for us, due to the high spec included on the premium SE
@@clapon1907I have to disagree. The E-Niro drove much more stable than the E-Soul when took them on roads outside the city for a test drive. But for city driving E-Soul is OK.
Thanks to the current explosion of fossile fuel prices i did finally decide to go full electric. But price/performance/size matters. So tesla and zoe went out the window. Tried out the mid sized options and the Kona ev just stuck out and i got it for 39 000 euros semi-new with still 4 years guarantee. I did a self installation charging solution doing 3.5kw for 250 euros on weekends and take advantage of my solar panels and cheaper electricity and do 4 euros for 400 km of range which is mind blowing. Serviced it for 70 euros and they didn't even do anything to it. Pretty much think this baby is future proof.
I had the Kona Electric with light grey upholstery lovely and light, no longer available though? Now have the Kia Nero 4+ it feels a lot bigger but down side is the dark upholstery however the Kia ride much better both in corners and over bumps. The Kona was a lot easier to spin the front wheels the Niro not so much. The Kia is definitely quieter.
That flap over the charging port on the front of the Hyundai irks me, there is a nice line on the front of the car and it's like someone said, yeah no Gov we have to cut through it and have the port access here.
Hi just got onto your channel , very interesting and very informative, being an Aussie in Perth WA the choice is limited to four , I been looking at BYD units on utube , which I hope will soon inport to Aussie ,value, style, and value for money 💰 , come next yr I hope to be buying one 🤞🤞🤞
Nicely done, lots of info, handy graphics on the comparison and i agree that the 7yr/100,000 warranty does offer peace of mind but i do prefer the look of the Kona, dam it undecided again :)
Hello, great video and review. I have a Kia Venga, I’m changing to an EV soon, but not sure which one to go for. I love them both. The problem is, I’m on Motabillity and at the moment the Kia is not available on this scheme. But would you suggest looking at any other makes and models ? Thank you 😊
Anybody else think the e-niro is quite ugly? Between that and the efficiency difference, the Kona would be my pick. Trunk space is fine for my purposes. Bigger than my current ‘09 Mazda 3 hatch
So as Tom has just pointed out in his latest review of the Nero E which replaces the older E Nero , prices for the older version should be tumbling in a real world situation and not the current over inflated pricing index - which to me I'd be happy with as a single driver/occupier. Still somewhat hacked off with the charging point but I'm sure its something everyone gets to grips with, so no Biggy.
I wonder how the good the mileage would be here I Queensland Australia where it is hot all the time. Almost. Can you put a tow bar on them and tow a small trailer?
@@SirHackaL0t. In my opinion yes. I tested both of them in 2020. In Finland where I live, the roads are made of rough material, so that they can survive the winter and winter tires. This makes the roads to be noisy. In this condition, a car with less internal noise is much better. I noticed a significant difference in the noise I heared in them. In my opinion, Niro was much better. At the end, since the offer for Niro got expensive(46000 eur), I went for the cheaper Nissan Leaf. The price for full equiped Nissan Leaf was 10000 eur cheaper. And it also have goodish sound insulation. The Hyundai has a separate importer which sells the Kona cheaper than Niro in here. But, Niro is better than both Leaf and Kona if somebody can afford it.
The Electrifying team is really good. And always really good information. Can you please put the information on the screen when you are comparing price and power and tech of the car please.
Yea we have a 19 Niro hybrid in Winnipeg Manitoba , phenomenal car . Last year year Winnipeg's temperature ranged from a low of _ 38 c to a high of +36 f . With 34 days over + 30 c . Not a single issue . We park in an unheated one car garage . That alone would give me confidence in Hyundai/Kia vehicles and likewise either of these two EV , s .
@@bethanhamer.8669 Too true when we bought our Niro in June of 19 our neighbour who drives a 13 Soul was of the opinion that it was kind of a waste because of prices at the time . To Me that's Dumb Ass thinking . It was dead easy to know that prices would be going up . And they weren't giving the stuff away in 19 . Our charging infrastructure really stinks here in Canada , and the country is so enormous that I can't see going full EV for us .
Well dig down and I for one can not afford either of them, as both are Far too Expensive. Oh and Tom when driving a Kona and talking about Regeneration the left hand paddle held down can slow your car to almost 0, making it almost one pedal type driving. That is a tip I gleaned from another EV user/reviewer so thought I out to pass it on, just in case you missed that point ?
We have just got the Niro plug in ... small amount of chargers here in Cardiff :( Space was the main option for us ... the Kona had more " poke" ... but less room
The Niro has projection Halogen headlights, for a car over 30k that's just not right. They do not light up the road sufficient enough and looks outdated.
9:15 When you're in the car please identify which one you're in either verbally or with a graphic. I don't know which one you're in. Fortunately, near the end of the Kia interior review the steering wheel is revealed so I can see the logo.
Hi guys, another great & useful video but there is one thing missing. The EV's from Hyundai/kia are some of the very few EV's that have not only variable regen 1,2,& 3 but also 0. When you select 0 the Hyundai that I drove would feel like it is freewheeling, increasing range. This led me to believe that on motorways where regen opportunities are reduced, testing the car in '0' might actually produce quite startling motorway range test results ??? If I'm right this would give Hyundai/Kia products a significant market edge ???
I own an e-Niro 4+ and have also driven a Kona for a few months. The cabin of the Kona is cheap and nasty, the ride is jiggly and the boot is too small to be practical. In contrast the e-Niro cabin is premium grade much nicer place to be (its not dark if you have the sunroof), significantly more interior room in the boot and rear seats, quieter and, better ride. The button press gear gear change in the Kona requires you to look down every time and is infuriating whereas the rotary wheel gear selector in the e-Niro can be operated easily by feel. Its a no-brainer e-Niro for the win.
@@joey-pn3xe I don't know what you are used to driving but I find the ride of the e-Niro to be pretty planted especially at high speed on the motorway. It compares well to the Mercs and BMWs I used to drive
Just thinking.. why put the back seats down on a family car? Where do the family go? Would be more relevant to show how many bags can fit in the boot while back seats are being used?
I can’t believe I watched this whole video to have the one question answered that mattered: which ONE of the TWO sisters was the winner? And of course: linkbait. One and done. Not subscribing. We need videos with actual, clear, STRONG opinions. Nobody has time for a 20+ minute video that doesn’t deliver anymore.
Were I looking for a replacement for my 2016 Outback these 2 are high on the list. I like the looks of the Kona and the warranty but I like the extra the interior, rear legroom and boot space in the Nero. Looking forward to the next few years of new EVs in this class.
i am astounded you don't mention how the bench seats fold up to the front seats to give a flat space for your luggage, which to me sounds like a bias in your review.
4:25. Charging in the nose is NOT 'handy'! It's moronic. Reverse parking is generally better because you don't swing your front into or out of a narrow space - you steer around the rear wheels - and are less likely to scrape the cars either side and when you leave you can see where you are going and where the dangers are. Allied to that the front of the car gets filthy in the winter and you end up with grubby hands (or, if you are really lucky, a frozen charge port door). The sooner the charge ports on the front grille are dropped the better.
The Kia Niro EV concept car was such a beautiful design (CES 2018 show), and it strangely looks similar to the New Kona ev. I wonder why they didnt bring out (update to) the the cooler Niro version, which has more space.
not only that, after 45,000 km KIA charges around €750 for changing the coolant... this applies to all the 2019 and newer models. Not sure about the Kona though.
10 points to everyone who spotted the mix up with the warranties at the end. The text spec tables are correct - the Hyundai gets five years and unlimited miles, while the Kia is seven years and 100k miles. Apologies.
But they both have the same 8 year battery warranty!
I just watched your excellent video and I knew you got your warranties the wrong way round.
Watching 3 months later! Might just want to put some captions in there at some point!?
I still find it strange Hyundai give 5 years and is the Parent company of KIA which gives 7 years, weird
They gave me 100k or 5 years what ever comes first on my Kona and does anyone else beside me find the Kona headlight have a terrible dark/black spot above the light at night time driving?
The 2020- Kia Soul I think is the same length of the Kona. The spec is similar to the Kia Niro 3&4 with a heat pump an amazing multi speaker Harmon Kardon system. It has the funky looks (well the front) that Tom likes and with the high roof line at the back it has a lot more useful space with the seats down which why I bought one. Also they only are sold in this country as a BEV so they’re easy to spot. Other things you can do is add an after market Froot because of the high bonnet and to finish off recently after a full charge I had an indicated 300 mile range due to an average 4.5miles/kWh consumption despite doing 70 mph on motorways where traffic allowed.
My eNiro came with 10 yr/100k mile battery warranty. Love it. Upgraded and quieter interior than Kona, Bolt, and Leaf. Has the quality and feel of our other car, BMW X1, and better acceleration! Kia used a BMW/Audi designer to redesign its interior. That's was sold us. Easily Getting beteen 4 to 4.5 miles per kW which gives me up to 275 miles. Great car!
How did you get 10 year/100k battery warranty?
@@alikhan-ri5ye can’t be right I just ordered one today it comes with 8 years warranty
Interesting to watch as a very happy Kona owner since December 2018. One thing I would take issue with is the comment on the 11kW on board charger which is a really useful upgrade on the original 7kW one. 22kW AC chargers are pretty commonplace these days - especially in Scotland. Find them to be an ideal option if available at my destination rather than stopping at rapids en route. Drive up to say 250 miles to your destination and then find one of these to plug into whilst you visit friends, go for a meal, go for a walk etc. 4-5 hours later you’ll be close to having a full battery. A key element of the charging infrastructure I’d like to see much more of - hence the power of an onboard charger is well worth noting.
I've had my Niro EV (US) for about 3 months. It's my first EV. I was influenced by MANY positive video reviews and felt like it was a clear choice - cargo space, rear seat room, familiar layout of controls, charging dock in the front. I am very happy with my new car! I appreciate the many thoughtful reviews which guided my choice! I was an early Prius adopter, so this has been an evolution.
Yours is an interesting comment as for me the Prius was the epitome of efficiency and durability. In Europe so many get used as cabs and are renowned for clocking up huge mileages without a problem. My previous car was a Gen 2 (2007) Prius that we bought in the UK and took to France where we live. The Niro replaced it in March 2019 and we now have 52,000 km on the Niro. It is a better car to drive and own in every way than the Prius but only time will tell if it becomes a sort of EV icon. It has certainly blazed the trail as a mid-price, practical EV in the same way that the Prius did for hybrids.
Did you look at the Kona when you were deciding?
I lived in Calgary, Alberta through last winter, and my 2019 Kona EV lived outdoors in the apartment parking lot all Albertan winter long. I charged up where the ICE cars plugged in their engine warmers! All winter my Kona EV was first out of the parking lot, whatever the temperature, my EV was King. I LOVE MY KONA EV! I agree it is a small space for tall people, but I am 5’ tall and it fits me perfectly!
Did you pre heat too? How did the range drop?
Kona for style, but the ENiro for space and practicality.
Kona for the exterior and parking, it‘s shorter, after all, the Niro for everything else.
@@CaroAbebe Kona for range too (even if it's minimal)
@@_TrueDesire_ 4.3 vs 4.7 on the same 180mile trip, on a comparison drive!
@@spikebmth Who was driving the Kia?
@@chrisrowe22 it was 4.3?
Good video. But Tom your wrong on the warranty. The Kia has the 7 year warranty and the Hyundai comes with the 5 year warranty. Other than that a good informative video. We have the Kia e niro 4 which we love.
I was about to say that but you beat me to it!
Limited warranty so not much deal, you have to compare exact parts warranty, not “general”.
@@YisName i can tell you unlike many cars warranty’s the 7 year warranty kia offer is one of the best in the industry. Apart from the usual consumables and the infotainment system which is 3 years most everything else is 7 years. I have had 7 kia vehicles over the years and as such know the warranty exemptions. Fortunately you don’t need to call on the warranty very often. Hence the reason why they have the confidence to offer it.by the way in the USA it has a 10 year warranty.
i always run it on regen. because when u break = regen. makes no sense to use it on 1 or 3. its stupid.
Maybe in UK 11 kW is not widely available - but on the continent it is quite common.
I have two 11 kW type 2 outlets in a normal house - that's for 2 EV's.
11 kW really makes a difference.
Oh dear, they got the warranties switched up.
Kia is 7yr 100000
Hyundai 5yr unlimited
Guess neither did their homework.
Yep, totally screwed-up the review.
These are professional presenters, reviewing cars is their job, they need to get their facts right.....unforgivable.
They should amend this video so the true facts ate presented so as not to mislead their viewers.
You guys forgot one regen level, in both cars you can pull and hold the left paddle and that will brake the car all the way to zero, with a really strong regen👍👍👍
But why make you do that? Why not do the regen anyway.
That extra regen does not need any braking at the end and radar controlled (the car in front)
Great review. I found it was actually really helpful comparing these two really similar cars. Love the level of detail too. Thank you, guys.
It must be different, but in Canada, they both have 8-year/160,000km warranties on battery, powertrain etc. and 5 year warranties on everything else. Ended up getting a Kona as we already had a Hyundai and got some loyalty discounts that made it cheaper, and it has been great so far as our first EV. I don't think anyone will regret getting either car.
I was in a Kia showroom today and in Hong Kong it’s the same warranty as yours
No they don't, I am from Canada and they only gave me 5 years on my Kona
Glad you mentioned the Kia Soul EV at the end which which I bought a month or so ago now.
The reason ? ...over the Kona and eNiro it came down to wanting a car that had real character/practicality coupled with a great driving experience....and the Soul certainly doesn't disappoint. Getting an easy 250m range which costs around £8 in electricity .. so just over 3p a mile...:-).
I heard from a Soul new owner a couple of weeks ago that they got the Soul because the wait time was much shorter.
@@SirHackaL0t. But fukkin hell the Soul is ugly, the rear is just bizarre
@@SuperTobbe12 was in a Kia showroom today and u are spot on ended up putting down a deposit on a Niro even when it was a kona I wanted to begin with dumb me thought I would find a kona in a Kia showroom.
Now on UA-cam finding out what I paid for
I wanted to buy one of these last year - couldn't get any positive commitment from Hyundai as Kona is only sold online and the dealers were not interested. The dealers for Kia eNiro were quoting 3 to 4 months delivery. As the VW id.3 had just been launched and the dealers were flooded with them, I bought one and have not been disappointed.
I'm surprised to read this because I bought a Kona a few weeks ago from a dealer. Delivery won't be until late December though
I own a 2020 E-soul and I can easily do more than 500km on a single charge with %80 city driving. Only cold winters my range drops down to 350km - 380km.
The maximum estimated range projected was 568km. so far.
I just sat in a Kona, decent in the front seat... but the back seat is TERRIBLY small. If you have a kid... it is too small for that even to be an option. The Kia has 4 inches more of leg room in the back and more head room... which feels massive. For a long term purchase and a growing family, the Kia wins for sure.
Great comparison review of class leasing EVs. I have owned both Kona premium SE, and e-Niro 4 and 4+.
Although much is common on power train the batteries are different. Sk innovation in niro and LG in kona
The kona has more in common with the Kia Soul EV
The kona gives a noisier and jittery ride compared to niro, but you won’t notice it on a 30 min test drive.
The niro wheelbase is 8 inches longer. This manifests itself in limo class space and comfort in the rear compared to the very little knee room in kona. You end up with your knees sticking up…
The niro is much smoother, quieter, refined and way more spacious.
many e-Niro owners in the Kia e-Niro U.K. interest group on FB have reported 300+ miles in summer.
Very good review I owned a Nissan Leaf 40kw for a year as my first full electric car and although the Leaf was a great car to use and own it was not very efficient especially on a motorway run, found myself looking for chargers whislts away from home. I sold the Nissan leaf after a year of ownership and bought a second hand Hyundai Kona 64kw with only 7000miles on the clock and oh what a difference the Korean cars are so efficient and I never have to think about needing to charging my car. On our summer holidays last year we drove from Northamptonshire to the Isle of wight fully loaded with four passengers and never had to worry about battery drain 4.5kw all the way, super car for every day use. Hyundai and Kia have nailed it with these cars no matter what you choose.
Nice review, as others have mentions you have the warranties mixed up between the cars (and Hyundai only has a non controlling stake in KIA) but also you didn’t mention that the batteries, though the same capacity on paper, are by different manufacturers and use slightly different technologies. Hyundai are LG batteries (and some are subject to recall because of files) and the KIA uses SKI for its batteries.
Let's hope there's more technical details on battery tech in future reviews. This is important, unlike the quality of the plastic / boy racer stats.
An entertaining review as ever, with a few errors. The e-Niro and Kona are not ‘the same cars wearing different clothes’. The e-Niro shares its ‘hard points’ (wheelbase and width) with the Hyundai Ioniq, whereas the Kona shares its hard points with the Kia Soul. Yes they do have the same motor and battery size but the Hyundai battery is from LG Chem, the e-Niro comes from SK Innovation. Interesting that Hyundai Motor Group have gone with SK for their new platform (Ioniq 5 and EV6). Have owned the e-Niro since March 2019, first batch of cars to come into France where I live...love the car after 46,000 km.
oui tout à fait ça !
je possède une ioniq 28 et souhaite la remplacer dans quelques temps.
je voulais rester chez hyundai car je préfère le design ( question de goût ^^) mais le kona est vraiment petit et d'après les retour il n'est pas aussi confortable sur route et autoroute.
Je pense partir sur le niro même en 2021 il présente un excellent rapport qualité prix ( en occasion)
@@yassik7414 Je suis content d'avoir de tes nouvelles. Un de mes amis ici dans les Deux-Sèvres a aussi un Ioniq de 28 kWh (2017) avec maintenant 70 000 km et aucun problème. C'est une excellente voiture et devrait avoir la plus grosse batterie que Kona et Niro. Peut-être que le plus récent Ioniq de 38 kWh répondrait à vos besoins?
I don't see how the Niro is old school . I have a 19 Niro hybrid and love it . The Niro looks better inside to me and more expensive. Negative points for no shifter on either car and the tablet sticking out of the top of the dash on the Kona .
It is good to know one important difference :-) Kona has battery from LG Chem (a fire problem has been reported, convening event is now fot that) and Niro has battery from SK Innovation (no problem so far). So my choice would be NIRO :-)
These guys are reviewing the cars without proper investigation...
I own the 2019 Niro EV and my range is 275-302. We have owned Kia Hybrids in the past so the choice was easy for my needs.
They both share the same drivetrain AFAIK .
The batteries are the same size but from different suppliers, Hyundai sources batteries from LG, Kia uses SK cells.
That is why the E Niro did not have any recalls but the Kona did.
These kind of videos really good, always enjoy the channels reviews, although there is a paddle for regen and the Kia comes with 7yrs the Hyundai is 5yrs warranty. I have also been enjoying Ur reviews of the second hand EV market. It's probably where most people are going to be shopping for an EV so makes sense to have a channel that covers this part of the market and really helpful to advise people on specs and what to look for etc. Especially with brands that have made subtle changes over the years.
A very interesting comparison. We tried both cars in early 2020 and, as you found, we chose the Niro because it had more rear seat room and was quieter. The appearance didn't really come into it. Thank you very much.
Even though the cars are very similar, there are differences. As someone already pointed out, the battery suppliers are different (LG vs SK) but also, and this is an important thing, the Kia has a 100 mm longer wheelbase than the Kona. That translates to a more composed ride for the e-Niro.
It seems they switched to SK in 2022 due to the LG debacle.
The Kona has the Head Up Display, which the Niro doesn't have. And the HUD is a real plus for me.
When getting my Kona, boot and back seat spaces were also a concern as I was hesitating with the Niro. With a year of using the Kona, space wasn't a problem (we're a family with two kids). However, the 20cm shorter length was practical when parking the car in town (in Europe, roads and car parks are smaller than in North America).
That’s something I like,the hud and im glad Kia integrated on the EV6 and hope they continue to do so on all cars from now on.
I was surprised they didn't mention the HUD. This was on my old MINI Cooper and it was amazing. I've ordered the Kona.... now I wait too...
Why can’t you get a car these days with seats that fold flat? I remember when you could lift the bottom cushion towards the front seat which meant the backs folded flat. The angled seat backs when folded is frustrating to fill as everything is on an angle.
@Clive Flint agreed! That slope bugs me. I had a Kia C'eed SW that in order to flatten the luggage area, rear seats had to be pulled out and stowed in rear passenger footwell(s). Guessing it must be to do with the cushioned foam and keeping assembly costs down. Wondering if the guru Sandy Munro will advocated inflatable air cushioned seating system!
It’s called “advanced retardation of retro technology”
I am a big fan of this Channel. Keep up the good work guys. Your videos are not only entertaining, fun but really informative. 😊
Good review. You got the warranty information swapped round. But agree with your conclusions. Niro usefully larger,drives well and very well equipped in 4+ trim. Kona drives a little better as felt more agile, has a HUD but is smaller in boot and more cramped in the rear. You pays your money and takes your choice. Both are great EVs and very good cars.
I thought the same about the warranty swap. Kia has a 7 year warranty, Kona has a 5 year warranty, but worth looking in the fine print of each.
Are you going to do this with the Ioniq 5 and the EV6 when it's available?
Exactly the same underneath? Just different battery manufacturers. LG vs SK Innovation. Different problems and therefore recalls and possible customer satisfaction. We can be forgiven for thinking these are the same as it's hard to find press coverage that refers to these issues. If you have trust in certain manufacturers or chemistry then they do become important. Thanks for your work, always enjoyable.
Excellent timing for me, I'm looking at both of these or the ID3 for my next car later this year.
Personally I'm leaning towards the Kona at the moment.
Like several commenters here i have the Soul and love it. Definitely worth checking out. Main downside is smaller boot (but i think thats similar to Kona) but if you dont need that the smaller size makes it better for parking. I get a genuine 250-275 miles. My brother has an Ioniq, same screen as the Kona and i do prefer the look of that screen to the Soul. The Soul also has very good rear passenger space, better than the Kona. (thats the trade off regards the boot and why its smaller)If you carry rear passengers but dont need lots of luggage space the Soul may be better than the Kona.
At least the Kona has real buttons...
Definitely go id3. No comparison
Didn't expect to enjoy car review video. Good Stuff, I will even check what other stuff you have.
I could watch Nikki all day. Defo not sure about the trousers though. Good to see Ginnie.. Good video, and helpful to compare both cars. Once upon a time we used to judge a car on its performance, flexibility, and road-holding, now it is about the size of the touch screen and how it looks on the dashboard and the size of the cupholders. Is this progress lol?!
I think you could have compared a lot more.
Lights.
Indicator lights.
Break lights.
Do the hazard lights look decent. And not some flashing dot..!!
How the boot door opens & closes. (Some models have a push button on the boot door).
Sun roofs. (Some models may have that)
Can any hold a roof rack?
Battery suppliers.
:-).
Great video, thank you for doing so much homework and being so thorough!!!
Cleaver Review. Witty banter and brilliant the way these two boiled down the specs. They did both cars justice and introduced a whole range of things to think about while keep it entertaining and light.
Previous Kona is much better looking than either of these two. What were they thinking of. Premium SE has the heat pump and was not an optional extra either.
Thanks for the comparison, very informative. Maybe not the best venue for married people issues though.
I’ve noticed you occasionally make statistical errors in your reviews. In this one you have misstated the boot capacities for the Kona. It has a capacity of 332 litres, not 361, rising to 1,114 with the seats down. Incidentally Hyundai isn’t Kia’s parent company, Hyundai has a 34% stake in Kia, making it the largest shareholder, but without giving it a controlling interest.
Just numbers in a table. Lucky it is not me doing it as there would be a lot more errors.
We have white pearl eniro 3 and think it is terrific. As l understand it eniro has been very influential both to driver's and motor industry. Feeling good owning a game changer.
Require to more information about the Gov Grant on Electric SUV 2021/2022, please. Great Video, thank you.
Personally, each is slightly better suited to some people's needs than others!
But the 2020 Kona wins for us, due to the high spec included on the premium SE
Brilliant job Stuart looks great 👍
I’ve just bought the SOUL EV. Much better value than either. Looks a bit odd but then you can’t see that when you are inside
I agree 100% except regards the looks which I see as cool rather than odd...:-)
It's a bit smaller, but it's a great car.
Soul EV drives much better than Niro or Kona. Seat the front seats on Soul is so much better.
@@clapon1907I have to disagree. The E-Niro drove much more stable than the E-Soul when took them on roads outside the city for a test drive. But for city driving E-Soul is OK.
Great concepts either would be wonderful to have if it was 40% in the retail price
The charge port distracts from the fronts of both cars
Distracts?
@@jinnyfisher4343 It ruins the lovely lines.
Thanks to the current explosion of fossile fuel prices i did finally decide to go full electric. But price/performance/size matters. So tesla and zoe went out the window. Tried out the mid sized options and the Kona ev just stuck out and i got it for 39 000 euros semi-new with still 4 years guarantee. I did a self installation charging solution doing 3.5kw for 250 euros on weekends and take advantage of my solar panels and cheaper electricity and do 4 euros for 400 km of range which is mind blowing. Serviced it for 70 euros and they didn't even do anything to it. Pretty much think this baby is future proof.
Great video as usuual.
When is Tom going to review the F-150 Lightning?
More Ford on Fords!!
It isn't sold in the UK, so the video would be pointless.
The little diamond-shaped dimples on the Kia aren't pointless, they improve its aerodynamics
I tested the Kona and Ioniq. I loved to break only using the paddles....holding it
I had the Kona Electric with light grey upholstery lovely and light, no longer available though? Now have the Kia Nero 4+ it feels a lot bigger but down side is the dark upholstery however the Kia ride much better both in corners and over bumps. The Kona was a lot easier to spin the front wheels the Niro not so much. The Kia is definitely quieter.
i just ordered my E Niro today. does the wheel spin issue is more controlled when driving in eco mode? thanks in advance
That flap over the charging port on the front of the Hyundai irks me, there is a nice line on the front of the car and it's like someone said, yeah no Gov we have to cut through it and have the port access here.
Hi just got onto your channel , very interesting and very informative, being an Aussie in Perth WA the choice is limited to four , I been looking at BYD units on utube , which I hope will soon inport to Aussie ,value, style, and value for money 💰 , come next yr I hope to be buying one 🤞🤞🤞
Nicely done, lots of info, handy graphics on the comparison and i agree that the 7yr/100,000 warranty does offer peace of mind but i do prefer the look of the Kona, dam it undecided again :)
Great review! Thanks!
FYI... 10year 100K mile warranty in USA.
Are you in UK or AU?
Hello, great video and review. I have a Kia Venga, I’m changing to an EV soon, but not sure which one to go for. I love them both. The problem is, I’m on Motabillity and at the moment the Kia is not available on this scheme. But would you suggest looking at any other makes and models ? Thank you 😊
Anybody else think the e-niro is quite ugly? Between that and the efficiency difference, the Kona would be my pick. Trunk space is fine for my purposes. Bigger than my current ‘09 Mazda 3 hatch
So as Tom has just pointed out in his latest review of the Nero E which replaces the older E Nero , prices for the older version should be tumbling in a real world situation and not the current over inflated pricing index - which to me I'd be happy with as a single driver/occupier.
Still somewhat hacked off with the charging point but I'm sure its something everyone gets to grips with, so no Biggy.
I wonder how the good the mileage would be here I Queensland Australia where it is hot all the time. Almost. Can you put a tow bar on them and tow a small trailer?
This was great. Thank you, guys!
Great vid and if I had to pick one it will be the kia +4 with full of tech and with a heat pump for the winter.
Same as the 2020 Kona, but not the facelift!
Niro is less noisy inside, it is much better in my opinion.
It’s quieter?
@@SirHackaL0t. In my opinion yes. I tested both of them in 2020. In Finland where I live, the roads are made of rough material, so that they can survive the winter and winter tires. This makes the roads to be noisy. In this condition, a car with less internal noise is much better. I noticed a significant difference in the noise I heared in them. In my opinion, Niro was much better. At the end, since the offer for Niro got expensive(46000 eur), I went for the cheaper Nissan Leaf. The price for full equiped Nissan Leaf was 10000 eur cheaper. And it also have goodish sound insulation. The Hyundai has a separate importer which sells the Kona cheaper than Niro in here. But, Niro is better than both Leaf and Kona if somebody can afford it.
The Electrifying team is really good. And always really good information. Can you please put the information on the screen when you are comparing price and power and tech of the car please.
Got a Kia Niro self charging hybrid and I love it !
Yea we have a 19 Niro hybrid in Winnipeg Manitoba , phenomenal car . Last year year Winnipeg's temperature ranged from a low of _ 38 c to a high of +36 f . With 34 days over + 30 c . Not a single issue . We park in an unheated one car garage . That alone would give me confidence in Hyundai/Kia vehicles and likewise either of these two EV , s .
@@jackfishcampbell6745 with the price of petrol Im Even more in love 😅475 miles to a tank at around sixty pound , I will defo have another
@@bethanhamer.8669 Too true when we bought our Niro in June of 19 our neighbour who drives a 13 Soul was of the opinion that it was kind of a waste because of prices at the time . To Me that's Dumb Ass thinking . It was dead easy to know that prices would be going up . And they weren't giving the stuff away in 19 . Our charging infrastructure really stinks here in Canada , and the country is so enormous that I can't see going full EV for us .
Well dig down and I for one can not afford either of them, as both are Far too Expensive.
Oh and Tom when driving a Kona and talking about Regeneration the left hand paddle held down can slow your car to almost 0, making it almost one pedal type driving.
That is a tip I gleaned from another EV user/reviewer so thought I out to pass it on, just in case you missed that point ?
Very entertaining review, keep it up!
Actually, Hyundai don't own Kia, they only own actually 30% of Kia. Love your presentation 👍
We have just got the Niro plug in ... small amount of chargers here in Cardiff :( Space was the main option for us ... the Kona had more " poke" ... but less room
Did you compare ID3 vs e208?
How about the A/C are use in this demo?
The Niro has projection Halogen headlights, for a car over 30k that's just not right. They do not light up the road sufficient enough and looks outdated.
While I would love one of these it doesn't make sense in Canada. The electric Niro is $18,000 more than the Hybrid (HEV).
9:15 When you're in the car please identify which one you're in either verbally or with a graphic. I don't know which one you're in. Fortunately, near the end of the Kia interior review the steering wheel is revealed so I can see the logo.
Hi guys, another great & useful video but there is one thing missing.
The EV's from Hyundai/kia are some of the very few EV's that have not only variable regen 1,2,& 3 but also 0. When you select 0 the Hyundai that I drove would feel like it is freewheeling, increasing range.
This led me to believe that on motorways where regen opportunities are reduced, testing the car in '0' might actually produce quite startling motorway range test results ???
If I'm right this would give Hyundai/Kia products a significant market edge ???
you must consider the Kia Soul EV 2021 too big battery an same milage in the city!
How do these both compare to the Kia Soul EV ?
Underrated channel.
do these have adaptive cruise control?
I Love Hyundai Kona and The Kia
I own an e-Niro 4+ and have also driven a Kona for a few months. The cabin of the Kona is cheap and nasty, the ride is jiggly and the boot is too small to be practical. In contrast the e-Niro cabin is premium grade much nicer place to be (its not dark if you have the sunroof), significantly more interior room in the boot and rear seats, quieter and, better ride. The button press gear gear change in the Kona requires you to look down every time and is infuriating whereas the rotary wheel gear selector in the e-Niro can be operated easily by feel. Its a no-brainer e-Niro for the win.
How’s the ride in the e Niro? I found it really jiggly and unsettled but no one else seems to mention it so I wonder if it was just the one I drove??
@@joey-pn3xe I don't know what you are used to driving but I find the ride of the e-Niro to be pretty planted especially at high speed on the motorway. It compares well to the Mercs and BMWs I used to drive
Just thinking.. why put the back seats down on a family car? Where do the family go? Would be more relevant to show how many bags can fit in the boot while back seats are being used?
Trips to Ikea perhaps or the tip
they both do 0-60 in the low 6's. i have a kona and it is quite fast in sport mode.
I have a '21 eNiro, and its quite bouncy on uneven roads.
That was my experience. The entire ride was unsettled
I can’t believe I watched this whole video to have the one question answered that mattered: which ONE of the TWO sisters was the winner? And of course: linkbait. One and done. Not subscribing. We need videos with actual, clear, STRONG opinions. Nobody has time for a 20+ minute video that doesn’t deliver anymore.
Didn't the LG battery packs get recalled in both of these cars!
Were I looking for a replacement for my 2016 Outback these 2 are high on the list. I like the looks of the Kona and the warranty but I like the extra the interior, rear legroom and boot space in the Nero. Looking forward to the next few years of new EVs in this class.
New Niro coming next year.
A very big difference is that the e Kona is available as a Motability car and the e Niro is not.
When I drive in my Kona, I always have a ...... great ride....
i am astounded you don't mention how the bench seats fold up to the front seats to give a flat space for your luggage, which to me sounds like a bias in your review.
4:25. Charging in the nose is NOT 'handy'! It's moronic.
Reverse parking is generally better because you don't swing your front into or out of a narrow space - you steer around the rear wheels - and are less likely to scrape the cars either side and when you leave you can see where you are going and where the dangers are. Allied to that the front of the car gets filthy in the winter and you end up with grubby hands (or, if you are really lucky, a frozen charge port door). The sooner the charge ports on the front grille are dropped the better.
true. i don't know why they put the charging socket in the front
So wish they had made a twin motor, 4WD versions of these cars.
kia niro for the sk battery
0:51 Please tell me that this isn’t a cigarette burn on the logo
They have different battery suppliers...
The Kia Niro EV concept car was such a beautiful design (CES 2018 show), and it strangely looks similar to the New Kona ev. I wonder why they didnt bring out (update to) the the cooler Niro version, which has more space.
New Niro coming next year.
7 year warranty on Kia 5 on Hyundai and the batteries are different manufacturers SK innovation and LG chem
not only that, after 45,000 km KIA charges around €750 for changing the coolant... this applies to all the 2019 and newer models. Not sure about the Kona though.
@@_TrueDesire_ I think the price has gone down. I got 3 years free servicing by taking out a loan with KIA then paid most off.