Early Protestant Movements - History of Religion DOCUMENTARY

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  • @magellantv
    @magellantv Рік тому +97

    Have we told you lately how much we love your videos? This is such an incredibly in-depth, yet also concise, overview of such a complex topic! 👏

  • @johanm_16
    @johanm_16 Рік тому +282

    Hello. Writer and researcher of the video here. Hope you liked our overview of different religious movements of western Europe in the lower middle ages. Of course we couldn’t go into detail of them as this video is meant as an overview touching on elements that the heresies/movements have in common.
    Sources used:
    -The Western Church in the Middle Ages, John A F Thomson
    -Religion in the Medieval West, Bernard Hamilton
    -Religious Controversy in Europe, 1378-1536 Van Dussen & Soukup
    -Medieval heresy : popular movements from the Gregorian reform to the Reformation, Malcolm Lambert
    -The Peace of God: Social Violence and Religious Response in France around the Year 1000; Edited by Thomas Head and Richard Landes
    -The Worlds of Medieval Europe, Clifford R. Backman

    • @Landerdidthat
      @Landerdidthat Рік тому +4

      Hi, where do I find more information about the valdencions ? I was intrigued by the fact that still exist to this day

    • @paulc1497
      @paulc1497 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for a great video and I'm looking forward to more! It would be interesting to explore the impact of social and theological events on motivations for reform, for example did the failure of Jesus' 'Second Coming' to manifest at different times (like in the year 1000) cause a disillusionment with Catholicism, or the impact of the Black Death on society and people's beliefs. Its a difficult topic probably with few sources, but might be an interesting area of research for this series

    • @johanm_16
      @johanm_16 Рік тому +3

      @@Landerdidthat Lambert’s book has a chapter at least on the Valdesian which was well written. If you are asking for information on today’s Valdesian’s I unfortunately don’t have much info on them

    • @johanm_16
      @johanm_16 Рік тому +3

      @@paulc1497 The impact of the black death definitely would be an interesting topic. The scare of the year 1000 is something I have not found many sources, and I personally suspect it’s importance has been increased by later writers

    • @malleableconcrete
      @malleableconcrete Рік тому +9

      I appreciate the effort put into this but my understanding is that the segment concerning the Cathars is now considered outdated, and that they probably weren't so influenced by eastern sects like the Bogomils and probably didn't have a dualist view of the world. They also weren't as well organized as often suggested, a lot of these notions came from their enemies in the mainstream church who, over the decades, added ever more grand accusations and proclamations about Cathar beliefs and behaviours, slowly turning them into an evil conspiracy when in reality it was probably more of a series of eccentric local beliefs and customs in Southern France, especially concerning the ability of laity to reach a level of spiritual authority comparable or greater than that of the official church members.
      As far as I understand, the Cathar didn't even call themselves Cathars, and the name came to be applied to them by mainstream catholic writers who supported their destruction who based the name on ancient heresies that they had read about in an attempt to draw a line between the Cathars and much older heresies that was probably entirely fictional. This is also where their associations with the likes of Manicheans comes from too.

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 Рік тому +81

    Religion has always been a major influence on the development of human civilization from the very beginning. Kings and generals has done a great service to all of us with documentaries like this and others to show the impact that it has had on our global history. From the earliest time to the present. Thank you so much.

  • @manuelapollo7988
    @manuelapollo7988 Рік тому +187

    Such a good work! It would be so cool to go deep in the theological differences between these heresies in a future video, especially in the firts heretic movements (what was the difference between the monophysits, the monothelits and the monoenergists? How these heresies began to be conceived starting from a platonic or aristotelic view of the World?)

    • @Kennyov93
      @Kennyov93 Рік тому +9

      Well, it was also seen as herecy to be against the churchs authority to change the laws of God like the ten commandments

    • @joels310
      @joels310 Рік тому

      Especially how they shaped Mohammed and his schizophrenia with his blood lust and pedophilia

    • @hawkeye4659
      @hawkeye4659 Рік тому +2

      Yesss, that would be so awesome 👍

    • @DestroyerOfSense000
      @DestroyerOfSense000 Рік тому +2

      I've always been curious why the early Church took such seemingly trivial theological differences so seriously. I'm tempted to believe that it was, consciously or not, a front for power politics. Did anyone besides the higher clergy even understand the theological differences between, say, the Miaphysites and Chalcedonians, let alone care?

    • @coolekikker4454
      @coolekikker4454 Рік тому

      Sounds extremely boring

  • @allonzehe9135
    @allonzehe9135 Рік тому +48

    I love the non-militarily vids. That's so fascinating.

  • @mikemodugno5879
    @mikemodugno5879 Рік тому +108

    Also, I just read about how the Cumans who settled in Hungary (Greater Cumania) eventually converted to Calvinist Protestantism. I would love to see a video about the forgotten Turkic Protestants.

    • @konstantine381
      @konstantine381 Рік тому

      I believe a Cuman identity was non existent by that time

    • @XDomyX
      @XDomyX Рік тому +6

      Cumans converted to Calvinism? 😂

    • @Shiranu17
      @Shiranu17 Рік тому +10

      @@XDomyX Yes?

    • @Osvath97
      @Osvath97 Рік тому +10

      Calvinism in general is quite popular in Hungary, especially in Transylvania.

    • @futureisyours3016
      @futureisyours3016 Рік тому

      I never knew but, lets say they were later made Jannissaries and members of the royal guard.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima Рік тому +311

    Protestantism: *Is created*
    Catholics "Finally, a worthy opponent!"
    Orthodoxs: "I thought what we had was special..." 😢

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld Рік тому +15

      @@daarom3472 very good analysis. Notice how often times those who controlled the organizations of Christianity often quelled "rebellious" attitudes whenever it started to jeopardize the status quo.

    • @Redpilled_Retribution
      @Redpilled_Retribution Рік тому +51

      @@daarom3472 the orthodox structure is not that similar to Catholicism
      It's much more regionalised and autonomous, and has no central, ruling elite with the same power as the pope

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld Рік тому +3

      @@TetsuShima you've said it yourself. Their shared goal for consolidating power through the lore of Christianity and the image of the Christ. For some humans, everlasting greed and lust for sex (priests also have sex behind closed doors) are necessary for their survival, so be it.

    • @jokester3076
      @jokester3076 Рік тому +18

      @@daarom3472 the eastern Orthodoxy church is much more decentralized, there is no “supreme pontiff” and no central governing authority.The metropolitan primates who enjoy autocephalous status are not subordinate to the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople, their considered
      peers and equals. Bartholomew I of Constantinople is more like a head franchiser and elder spokesperson for the religion. What the Eastern Orthodox share in common with the Catholic Church is they both consider the ancient church canon and sacred tradition to be equal in authority to the bible, because it was the church guided by Holy Spirit that authenticated and authorized the biblical canon.

    • @nigsbalchin226
      @nigsbalchin226 Рік тому +1

      @@daarom3472
      Indeed!
      Tyndale's own words fit so well with your's:
      “[A] Catholic scholar at dinner with Tyndale said, ‘We were better be without God’s law than the pope’s.’
      In response, Tyndale spoke his famous words, ‘I defy the Pope and all his laws. . . . If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause a boy that driveth the plow, shall know more of the Scripture than thou dost.’”
      (Quoted from Desiring God Ministry of John Piper)

  • @shehansenanayaka3046
    @shehansenanayaka3046 Рік тому +14

    kings and generals always teach good history things. one of the best ever history channels ever. love ya all. a huge fan of you from sri lanka. protestant movement i think start by martin luther by his ninety five thesee. one of the best things ever.

  • @christianwalton7080
    @christianwalton7080 Рік тому +15

    WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Been hoping to get some stuff on the Reformation, Proto-Reformation, and/or heretics from you guys!

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 Рік тому +13

    I find the slow conversion of the Teutonic order to Prussia to be an interesting topic considering their original purpose and the impact on the native Prussian Lithuanians who also eventually became Protestant and made the region a center of Lithuanian literature/culture.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Рік тому +24

    A great video! I love to see a nuanced view of the Middle Ages being popularized.
    Speaking about the Council of Constance, you could probably make a whole video just about it, including a look at the two members of the Polish delegation (who defended Jan Hus): Stanisław of Skarbimierz and Paweł Włodkowic (known in Latin as Paulus Vladimiri). The two had some interesting, ahead-of-their-time ideas.

    • @cdcdrr
      @cdcdrr Рік тому +5

      The relative tolerance existing in Poland-Lithuania is a very interesting abberation in an age of growing absolutism and religious strife. A shame what happened under the Prussians and later Soviets would erase much of what had been built over centuries.

    • @compatriot852
      @compatriot852 Рік тому +4

      It should be noted that Grand Duke Vytautas even became known as the king of the hussites after his intervention.

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 Рік тому +8

    As always, I love that you are always unbiased about every subject it makes the videos interesting

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 Рік тому +4

    A very important and necessary knowledge to understand why early and late medieval wars were so varied. I look forward to the continuation. Thanks for now.

  • @grimkupid8478
    @grimkupid8478 Рік тому +13

    This was great, please keep all the great content coming.

  • @brucebisbey9554
    @brucebisbey9554 Рік тому +3

    Awesome stuff. Our people left Sandwich, England in1635 on the HMS Hercules for both religious and political reasons and landed at Plymouth. Yup we fought in the Revaluation and every US war since, we lost 7 (Union) in the US Civil War, Yankee blue bellies, with much respect to the Rebs and their Stars and Bars. Great to get some historical input of our 180ish million Protestants in the US, with total respect for our brothers and sisters in Catholic, Jewish and other religious groups.

  • @smallpotato3908
    @smallpotato3908 Рік тому +6

    Glad to see your effort in putting that part of History of Religion in a fair and clear pictures. Hope another Age of Reformation will come soon.

  • @vrkoven
    @vrkoven Рік тому +17

    A very fine overview, congratulations! Back when I was in college, I had made a special study of the Waldensians, so was glad to see them mentioned here (I also noticed, though I didn't enter, the Waldensian church in the center of Rome). A small Waldensian community emigrated to North Carolina, in the US, though this was long after they had essentially merged with the Calvinists in Italy and France. There's a town called Valdese in NC that is their epicenter there.

  • @muazzamshaikh2049
    @muazzamshaikh2049 Рік тому +6

    Informative as always!! I bet your videos will be found in the playlists of people studying history

  • @jamesforreal
    @jamesforreal Рік тому +4

    I never knew there was this many attempts at dissension and reformation before the actual Reformation. Love these videos!

    • @utopiaOKC
      @utopiaOKC Рік тому

      Everything starts from a previous attempt, minus the 1st one, which is usually always unsuccessful. But people have the ability to learn from mistakes.

    • @Procopius464
      @Procopius464 Рік тому +1

      Martin Luther was greatly assisted by the printing press. Before the printing press it was much harder to mass produce anything or make anything go viral.

  • @mgrzx3367
    @mgrzx3367 Рік тому +6

    This was very interesting. I didn't know this history. Thank you so much. I learn so much from you all. My family had a religious war. Protestant Uncle married a Catholic girl. I wasn't even born yet, but I heard about it. The sh*t hit the fan. Wow! Arigatou gozaimasu Sensei. Deep bow of respect.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  Рік тому +3

      Scandalous!

    • @mgrzx3367
      @mgrzx3367 Рік тому

      @@KingsandGenerals Arigatou gozaimasu Sensei Kings and Generals. so much to learn from you. Deepest most respectful bow. Thank you.💘

    • @patof72clune51
      @patof72clune51 Рік тому

      @@KingsandGenerals The protestant heretics DID NOT reform anything but caused evil revolution.
      The ACTUAL reformers were Catholics within the Catholic church who reformed misabuses to catholic truth by those not properly following it.

  • @OTDMilitaryHistory
    @OTDMilitaryHistory Рік тому +3

    An excellent summary of the various movements. I really enjoyed this video.

  • @024Nimma
    @024Nimma Рік тому +9

    Love these videos about religion (especially within the Western and Eastern Roman Empire) and how detailed they are. Keep up the good work Kings and Generals!

  • @holyfreak86
    @holyfreak86 Рік тому +99

    Ian Hus was on the spot!

    • @k.a.2253
      @k.a.2253 Рік тому +8

      Man before his time

    • @RJ-bq5mr
      @RJ-bq5mr Рік тому +18

      He was a heretic

    • @ravinglunatic299
      @ravinglunatic299 Рік тому +7

      @@RJ-bq5mr John 10:27-23 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
      The word of the living God is infallible.

    • @Win5ton67
      @Win5ton67 Рік тому

      Jan Hus was a temerous lunatic who directly attacked legitimate spiritual and temporal authorities, which inevitably led to a fierce and bloody civil war in Europe - a war from which our societies are still suffering to this day.

    • @arethmaran1279
      @arethmaran1279 Рік тому +9

      ​@@ravinglunatic299 The word of the Living God was assembled by the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  Рік тому +77

    It is interesting how similar the Chantry from the Dragon Age universe is to our world's Catholic church: ua-cam.com/video/jnWl3ioT25A/v-deo.html

    • @FrJohnBrownSJ
      @FrJohnBrownSJ Рік тому +4

      What in the world?

    • @Rockstar-bq5fm
      @Rockstar-bq5fm Рік тому +5

      Shouldn’t this be the Wizards and Warriors channel posting this??

    • @alicjacaban2226
      @alicjacaban2226 Рік тому +1

      Hm why many nobles supported Protestantism.becouse they can confiscate church property.🤑

    • @XDomyX
      @XDomyX Рік тому +6

      @@joeypaisano9235 Straw man argument. He didnt say that at all.

    • @sandygehrmann6309
      @sandygehrmann6309 Рік тому +3

      Also "Simony" is pronounced "sai·muh·nee", as in "Simon".

  • @UpendraSingh-bn6ls
    @UpendraSingh-bn6ls Рік тому +1

    A very timely video, I had to write a essay on the topic
    Came out to be very helpful thank you K&G

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Рік тому +4

    Always informative!

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf Рік тому +2

    BEST HISTORY CHANNEL EVER, FANTASTIC WORK GUYS.

  • @austincharles967
    @austincharles967 Рік тому +16

    I'm proud to be Protestant but I also have Catholic friends. Crazy to think we would have been at each other's throats back then.

    • @GenZRemnant
      @GenZRemnant 4 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@thecriticalnouswhat is there to be proud about being Orthodox? The church that believes you can pray to Mary (yes Orthodox heretics believe they can communicate with Mary as an intercessor between God and man no matter how they word it).

    • @thecriticalnous
      @thecriticalnous 4 місяці тому +1

      Why (if the Bible is sufficient apart from Holy Tradition) can a Baptist, a Pentecostal, a Jehovah's Witness, a Presbyterian ,a Calvinist and a Methodist all claim to believe what the Bible says and yet no two of them agree what it is that the Bible says?

    • @GenZRemnant
      @GenZRemnant 4 місяці тому

      @@thecriticalnous Protestants don’t claim that all other Protestant sects are true or correct. That question is in no way a valid defense of papism or orthodoxy. Here’s a better question, how is it the one true infallible church if your doctrines of today look completely alien to the doctrines of the catholic church in say, the early middle ages?

  • @Sacrofire_fire
    @Sacrofire_fire Рік тому +8

    Yes!!! This is awesome!!! Hope you can have a full series of these videos!!! It was very well balance, lots of information without deviating from the main topic, the maps were so accurate, the flow of the script was very fluid, and the conclusion leave you want it to watch more. A big congratulation all the team that made this possible, keep with the good work, and looking forward for more! 💪

  • @aiyanasaf4849
    @aiyanasaf4849 Рік тому +2

    Loved the video, very informative. Could you please make a video about Protestant Reformation and Martin Luther King in this series because in UA-cam wherever we've searched there's no such simple explanation like yours.

  • @jonathandumigan8041
    @jonathandumigan8041 Рік тому +5

    This is awesome and I've been trying to find videos on the 40 years war about the Protestant/Catholic split. This so far has been the closest I could find.
    Please keep it up!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +2

    Nice video. Can't wait for more on this interesting subject.

  • @cc-dtv
    @cc-dtv Рік тому

    Incredible video, Thank you so much for uploading this.

  • @leonrambach1216
    @leonrambach1216 Рік тому +1

    I'm from Constance and the council of Constance from 1414-1418 and Jan Hus's execution are a pretty big topic in my cities history. The building(s) where the council tool place is/are still intact and a popular tourist attraction as well as the monastery where Jan Hus was detained during his trial (although it's not a monastery anymore).
    The council of Constance actually primarily served to end the period of multiple competing popes and ended up with the election of a new, single pope to lead the Catholic church.
    From what I've learned/heard in local stories, Jan Hus came to Constance only after the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund and the other council members promised him free passage (and guarantees). But when he arrived he was instead imprisoned, trialed and burnt at the stake.
    There are still a number of Museums, streets and plazas/areas named after Jan Hus today and you sometimes see a memorial plate/inscription at different places in the old city and surrounding areas.

  • @albertovalerio6766
    @albertovalerio6766 Рік тому +1

    Excellent Video! Hope you guys can make more of this. Hope you explore the Huguenots!!

  • @Shiranu17
    @Shiranu17 Рік тому +25

    The Huguenots/Acadians and the French Wars of Religion are an amazingly interesting topic as well... lots of content that often gets overlooked, lots of really amazing people and some truly horrifically awful people.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Рік тому +1

      Most Acadians were pious catholics. You had to be a good well behaved catholic to be allowed to move to Acadia or Quebec. Huguenots were forbidden to do so. They had tried to settled in South Carolina/Florida and Rio de Janeiro but were unsuccessful before the laws changed and they were forced to migrate either to the 13 colonies or other European states like the Netherlands or Prusia.

    • @Shiranu17
      @Shiranu17 Рік тому +1

      @@Alejojojo6 I'm not sure who told you this, but it's not accurate.
      My ancestors arrived in Port Royal in the 1680s-1700s; they came from La Rochelle, Louden (Aquitaine) and Rouen (Normandy) primarily, and many had fled to Amsterdam, Liden and Kent before that to flee Catholic persecution.
      For 150 years they lived in peace in Acadia, making treaties with the Mi'kmaq and other local Algonquin-speaking peoples, until Le Grand Dérangement killed 2/3rds of our people; I have direct grand-parents who died on the ships that were denied entry into Virginia as they headed down to Louisiana and the swamps.
      ("Fun" fact - in the 1930s Huey Long, renowned P.o.S. of Lousiana, built highways through Acadian ("Cajun" - a slur) lands and forced them to become "Americans" - change our names to English, give up speaking French, adopt Roman Catholicism. Even in America we faced persecution and have almost been completely assimilated at this point.)
      I can assure you, Huguenots were very much a part of Acadian history - and the fact that their history continues to be so misrepresented and erased is exactly why I would love to see a major channel like this cover it; they already covered the Catholic war on Protestantism & humanism (not linked, just both attacked at the same time) in France, so it would be a logical conclusion to it.

  • @hajlinger
    @hajlinger Рік тому

    I am a very big fan of this topic, but even I myself have not heard about the Catharism. It's great video thank you for your work!!

  • @antonnurwald5700
    @antonnurwald5700 Рік тому

    Religious history stuff is exciting, I am looking forward to more of it. Great video!

  • @axelbauron155
    @axelbauron155 Рік тому

    My favourite video from my favourite YT channel. Fascinating!

  • @hanzup4117
    @hanzup4117 Рік тому +2

    I've had my fingers crossed for a video from K&G on this subject :)

  • @kyleharder3654
    @kyleharder3654 Рік тому +1

    Great video, really interesting and respectful

  • @tschohanfaitscher3481
    @tschohanfaitscher3481 Рік тому +2

    Yes! How cool. Please more videos on the history of religion

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh Рік тому

      you mean like:
      c.539 Mazdaism (aka Magi) Persian King Cyrus the great conquers Pagan Babylon, soon after decrees conquered people (including Hebrews) will rebuild their temples.
      c.550-522 BC Persian Achaemenid Empire has pre-Zoroastrian Mazdaism as official religion, until the Magian priest Gaumata rebellion vs king Cambyses II - Cambyses II died, then cousin heir king Darius recovers empire and in
      522--330 BC Persian Achaemenid Empire becomes officially Zoroastrian religion instead. Original Mazdaism(Magianism) with the Magi priests fall out of power, although still around. Persian Empire from Egypt to central Asia estimated contains about 45% of all humanity (45 million of 100 million Earth Pop!) at the time.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Рік тому +1

    Great video on a fascinating topic.

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely love stuff like this
    Bravo Bravo 👏

  • @birdy0090
    @birdy0090 Рік тому +2

    Summary
    0:05: 📜 프로테스탄트 개혁과 유럽 역사에 미치는 영향, 종교와 정치 간의 교차점에 대한 내용입니다.
    2:55: 🕊 기독교에서 이단과 종교 개혁의 역사.
    5:46: ⛪ 이 비디오는 11 ~ 12세기 교회 내의 운동과 개혁, 그리고 이단과 그레고리오 개혁에 대해 논의합니다.
    8:30: 📜 중세 유럽에서 신종 종교 운동의 등장, 왈덴세인과 가타르파르를 포함하며, 그들이 사회와 교회에 미친 영향.
    11:21: ⛪ 가타리주의의 성장과 몰락, 그리고 가톨릭 교회의 대응.
    14:13: 🔥 기독교에서 이단 운동의 급부상, 포함하여 프라티첼리 이단, 롤라디, 야니 후스의 이념, 그리고 유럽 사회에 미치는 영향.
    16:59: 🕊 이 비디오는 얀 후스의 죽음이 후사 전쟁에 미친 영향과 다양한 종교 운동이 개신교 개혁에 미친 영향에 대해 논의합니다.
    Recapped using Tammy AI

  • @rogernull6151
    @rogernull6151 Рік тому +2

    I think the general belief by most Christians is that the early church was a single, unified entity that morphed into the Roman catholic church & only began to fragment during the Renaissance. But there never really was a single, uniform Christianity.

  • @nicklepin7133
    @nicklepin7133 Рік тому

    I love your channel. You’re voice also belongs on history shows on the history channel

  • @benedictmarkolitoquit4848
    @benedictmarkolitoquit4848 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this information great job 😊

  • @radomircita9420
    @radomircita9420 Рік тому

    Intetesting thing is that offspring of Peter Payne, english scholar who brought Wikliffes teachings to Prague, still live here, two families descended from him. Paynové (Payne family) and Engliš (he was called mister English while in Bohenia)

  • @sayuas4293
    @sayuas4293 Рік тому +7

    I like how they were called heretics just for being against church corruption and living in an ascetic way, helping people

    • @Chestyfriend
      @Chestyfriend Рік тому

      Even better is that they eventually just became the same as the thing they fought against.

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Chestyfriend if Luther saw what American protestantism because he'd probably just shut up and pay his indulgences.

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 Рік тому +4

      Nope you're wrong.
      Plenty of monastic orders who worked against Church corruption and lived in ascetic conditions were never deemed heretical.
      Being against corruption and for asceticism isn't and was never ground for being schismatic, as evident from the plethora of saints who held these convictions.

    • @sayuas4293
      @sayuas4293 Рік тому

      @@remilenoir1271 in some places yeah and others no, but what is certain is that catholics murdered hundreds of thousands of people for being part of movements that resulted from catholic corruption. What jesus would've wanted right?

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 Рік тому

      @Sayuas The catholic Church has never, ever, in History, murdered hundreds of thousands of people or ordered such a thing to happen.
      So unless you have something to back up that claim there is no need to go any further with that conversation.
      What Jesus would've wanted doesn't really matter. Mankind is still mankind, with all its sin, contradictions and pettiness.
      As terrible as it is you can't except people not to indulge in violence on a political level just because the Bible said so. Especially when the issues at hand are politic issues as much, if not more, as they are religious (which was the case for cathars, hugenots, and protestants).
      Jesus coming didn't cure the world of sin, it only allowed those willing to not indulge in sin to be able to reconcile with God and enter paradise.

  • @mat3714
    @mat3714 Рік тому +1

    Great work guys

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing job

  • @TheHiYaku
    @TheHiYaku Рік тому

    Man! It's amazing how shallow and terrible spiritual illumination was throughout these centuries. Sad also to know that some have survived till this day.
    But this was an awesome presentation!! As a Christian and a "touch and go" student of church history, I am eternally grateful for this!!

  • @mango2005
    @mango2005 Рік тому +1

    It should be noted that even within Catholicism - pre Ultramontanism - monarchs had a greater role on issues like appointing bishops than now. That might have made the Establishment of national Protestant churches seem less of a change than it seems now.

  • @timothylong3110
    @timothylong3110 Рік тому +1

    Some small group leader: Hey Guys!
    So I’ve been looking at the budget and we’re going to make some cut backs…
    Inquisition: *Smells Heresy*

  • @jglangdon7
    @jglangdon7 Рік тому

    Hope to see the next one soon

  • @bijornswordraise2916
    @bijornswordraise2916 Рік тому

    These was amazing video , welll done

  • @thekingshussar1808
    @thekingshussar1808 Рік тому +1

    Shoutout to the Reformers who doctored the Church from the inside:
    The badass St Catherine of Siena
    St Francis of Asissi (Franciscans were interestingly the successful variant of Waldensians)
    St Bonaventure
    Etc
    Also, traditional Franciscans actually still survived called Capuchins and were not deemed as heretics thanks to the defense of St Bonaventure.

  • @1108penguin
    @1108penguin Рік тому +2

    Kings and Generals is eventually going to have to make a video called "What is Christianity?" for people who were raised so secular that they legitimately don't know.

  • @Hangfire1
    @Hangfire1 Рік тому +1

    The problem with discussing religon, in particular, is that all the sources are biased in their own way, to a greater or lesser extent. The key is to try to interpret them with an open mind. Though doing this does have the tendency for you to be considered heretical as this will likely be contrary to the accepted doctrine. Heresy tends is condemned because of its social & political ramifications. Something which is explicitly mentioned in this video. One thing I love about the guys at Kings & Generals is that they do try to be as unbiased as possible. Keep it up!

  • @dr.zoidberg197
    @dr.zoidberg197 Рік тому +2

    I love this style of animation.

    • @amitkenan3878
      @amitkenan3878 Рік тому

      If only they had enough money to make it a moving animation

  • @dougdimmedome5552
    @dougdimmedome5552 Рік тому +2

    I am slowly finding the absolute disastrous state of the world along with the endless political revolution that scarred the 16th and 17th century eerily similar to our modern conditions and cannot get enough history about this late medieval/early modern period these days, probably out of need to cope with all that’s going wrong these days. To be honest it is both disturbing but also strangely hopeful to see all this horrific endless violence actually resulting in real political change and not just utter apocalypse, maybe there is really hope in all this decay.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Рік тому +4

    I am sorry but I needed to ask this. Will the proto-Protestant movements be featured in the video about alternate history on the "other" channel as well? I think the reactions of the Cathars and the Waldesians to the Sack of Rome by the "nomadic invaders who are the exception to all rules" are important here.
    Also, how much chance these proto-Protestant movements have the chances of accomplishing their endgames?

    • @futureisyours3016
      @futureisyours3016 Рік тому +1

      Wow!!! Do they have an endgame agenda??? Talk about it!!!!

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion Рік тому +1

      @@futureisyours3016 If I remembered correctly, their main goals most likely might be reforming the Church from within or break away from it. I really do not know because I forgot about it already. I am sorry.

    • @futureisyours3016
      @futureisyours3016 Рік тому +1

      @@lerneanlion well, I'll give some stuff to read on. Lead u a bit down the rabbit hole. Albert Pike, Freemasonry,(free bespoke)religion, Zelensky, rise of Turkey, open society, free immigrants in Europe,
      Italy facing immigrants.
      Failure of Crusades, Shriners. In one word...... I.L.M

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Рік тому +5

    This was fascinating! I very much enjoyed hearing about some of these early movements within and outside of Complication. I would be very interested to hear more about Christianity's early spread eastward into Persia, India, China, etc. too if you guys ever get the chance. Regardless, thank you very much for another excellent episode!
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @whamsdram
    @whamsdram Рік тому +1

    Fascinating - thanks!

  • @rafaelcanosantos3554
    @rafaelcanosantos3554 Рік тому

    Great video guys

  • @LarsLiveLaughLove
    @LarsLiveLaughLove Рік тому

    Part of one of these movements. Group has over 1million adherents in the USA, mostly northern Europe and missionary enclaves in 2 continents

  • @wugy07
    @wugy07 Рік тому +1

    So happy that th Dominican and Fransiscan orders were mentioned! I studied about them when working at a museum that opened up inside the Dominican cloister in Malta. Fascinating stories, and we have a lot to thank them for, for documenting what they could!

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi Рік тому +1

    Girolamo Savonarola: “Am I a joke to you?”

  • @PrivateBeerStash
    @PrivateBeerStash Рік тому

    Great video as always!

  • @herreramissions6283
    @herreramissions6283 Рік тому +6

    I've always been a bit confused about exactly how Buddhism got to Japan. It seems like everything about Japan does really well on UA-cam so maybe you guys would be interested in covering that

  • @isaaclobo7311
    @isaaclobo7311 Рік тому

    Incredible work!!!!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Рік тому

    Thank you for the video it was good 👍🏻

  • @aname4me
    @aname4me Рік тому +1

    I'm looking forward to more on the Protestant Movements.
    I would like to hear how the Puritans shaped the North American beliefs of today.

  • @Argacyan
    @Argacyan Рік тому +2

    I've had some interest in non-czech hussitism for a while now as it's often discussed in terms retroactively projecting nationalism onto the topic, while it would've absolutely made sense that much like other forms of protestantism, there would've been non-czech Hussites given time & area. Since this has also been mentioned in this video, what is some good literature going into non-czech local Bohemian perspectives on Hussitism?

  • @Rhosus
    @Rhosus Рік тому +3

    Important note about Hus, the population and nobles took it as an insult because he was condemned without a proper trial, the nobles put forward a complaint that was signed by so many nobles that it had over four hundred seals and was divided into 8 parts (this had also practical reason because individual parts had nobles from different regions).
    So imagine you have practically an entire nobility of the only kingdom in HRE putting forward such a document, and decide it would be a good idea to proclaim all of them heretics for complaining that Hus was burned without a proper trial, what could go wrong?
    ...
    The document doesn't have english wikipedia page so here is the czech one: cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%AD%C5%BEn%C3%BD_list_proti_up%C3%A1len%C3%AD_Mistra_Jana_Husa

  • @emadabz6886
    @emadabz6886 Рік тому

    Great job

  • @firestorm1088
    @firestorm1088 Рік тому

    Once again we see how ideas can never truly be killed.

  • @marcus4532
    @marcus4532 Рік тому +3

    The Protestant reformation could be a fun oversimplified video

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 Рік тому

    How I had no idea these popular uprisings and sentiments stretched back so far!

  • @JustaRobot
    @JustaRobot Рік тому

    As a Protestant myself and raised by German parents I believe in the one way connection to gos above and our lord Jesus the Catholic ways we’re evil and to pay your way to god is inconceivable. To this day I am a loyal follower of the Lutheran faith and will remain to the day I die.

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 Рік тому

    17:02
    "But was found guilty of being a heretic, and burned at the stake."
    "His death *inflamed* the nobles and population of Bohemia."
    Funny how that works.

  • @christopherseivard8925
    @christopherseivard8925 Рік тому

    Thanks so much. I am a stroke survivor. ( I lived) my Father is a Lutheran Minister. Despite having ibeen well trained, it is great to review. Everything I remember, helps my confidence. SIN BOLDLY!( Luther)

  • @johnbatali
    @johnbatali Місяць тому

    Excellent.

  • @devtogoru
    @devtogoru Рік тому

    When i was a student i used to work on a restaurant in Toulouse, one of my coworker said she was a cathar. Does it still exist or she's just pulling my leg?

  • @crothrash1
    @crothrash1 Рік тому +2

    It's a shame that Bosnian Church isn't mentioned, it has some ties with bogumilism but it's specific in it's own way

  • @Jon_the_Apostate
    @Jon_the_Apostate Рік тому +1

    Please make more videos on the history of Christianity and other major religions.

  • @benbutler9282
    @benbutler9282 Рік тому

    great stuff

  • @marcelosilveira2276
    @marcelosilveira2276 Рік тому

    10:32 "where they survive to this day"
    I think this might give the wrong impression that they survive to this day hiding in the alps.
    The Waldensian church, while the smallest of the protestant churches world wide, do not "survive", but "live", and have temples in multiple countries on the Western world, including the Americas. I wouldn't go so far as to say the ever truly thrived, but they are definitely better of than surviving hidden in the Alps to this day. considerably better.

  • @axeldeporte4073
    @axeldeporte4073 Рік тому +1

    Bit disappointed to see the bit about the cathars being the outdated retelling presented with absolute certainty without an asterisk mentioning the debates in historian circles that’s been raging the last 20 years.

  • @carlosfilho3402
    @carlosfilho3402 Рік тому

    Thanks Tô This Vídeo.

  • @Myavepea
    @Myavepea Рік тому +16

    I am OBC hindu but I converted Christianity

    • @puis11-1
      @puis11-1 Рік тому +2

      But ur old comments seems u r castest in Christianity we don't have Cast so plez do bring cast and all those stuffs..

    • @Myavepea
      @Myavepea Рік тому +3

      @@puis11-1 what do you want to say

    • @puis11-1
      @puis11-1 Рік тому +1

      @@Myavepea in your previous video Which was Muslim expansion in India u show hand emoji in telling JAT... So i mean to say plez don't bring Cast If u converted to Christianity in our faith we don't have any JAT or Rajput or any cast so plez don't bring it..

    • @holywater2586
      @holywater2586 Рік тому

      @@puis11-1 i think its not a cast bro.. calm down

    • @Myavepea
      @Myavepea Рік тому +2

      @@puis11-1 which video are you talking about bro

  • @georgeprchal3924
    @georgeprchal3924 Рік тому +1

    Luther: The Pope is a Liar... SOMETIMES.
    Peasants: "Goddamn you Luther!"

  • @dirgniflesuoh7950
    @dirgniflesuoh7950 Рік тому

    Will You bring up the butter theory?
    The importance of the butter prohibition for Lent.

  • @rhamonalves6037
    @rhamonalves6037 Рік тому

    Hello, when will we have videos dubbed in Portuguese? Thank you in advance for your attention.

  • @Raccoonaspie
    @Raccoonaspie Рік тому +1

    0:30 Well, it was the catholic church that denounced its founding principles

    • @manifesttruth7645
      @manifesttruth7645 2 місяці тому

      As an Eastern Orthodox Christian I approve this message

  • @craigkdillon
    @craigkdillon Рік тому

    I wonder what prior sects influenced the Shakers and Quakers?
    The Quakers devotion to all people being equal is a foundational principle of the United States. David Hackett Fischer describes it well in his book - The Seeds Of Albion.
    One of the best history books I have ever read (and I read many.)

  • @angelb.823
    @angelb.823 Рік тому

    This does bring questions. How did the Orthodox Christian world was affected by the rising movements in the Catholic Christian world that were condemned as heresies before and after the Protestant Revolution? And I don't mean heresies like Arianism, Nestorianism, Monophysitism, Miaphytism, which were presented in Late Antinquity (and took shape as religions like the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt and the Armenian Apostolic Church), but movements that were present in the Middle Ages (for example in Constantinople during late Byzantine and Ottoman periods, and in the lands of the Rus under the rule of the Ruthenians/Ukranians/Belarussians and Muscovites).

  • @g4m3life86
    @g4m3life86 Рік тому

    illuminating!

  • @alexanderwaite9403
    @alexanderwaite9403 Рік тому

    You are doing excellent work. Try not to beat yourself up about those who don't want to view evidence about the h people's socialism. You have opened my eyes about Germany from the 1900s to 1945.