Okay so Markus companion are supposed to represent your choices, north is about aggression,josh is the pacifist who’s sacrificial,Simon doesn’t want anyone to die. They’re all valid in certain scenarios but you can’t always choose them for every option. There is no option that allows you have no androids dead. The best one is the pacifist route because that gets you public support. If you take the coward route or try to attack you will lose people anyways although public won’t like you. Saving people is what Simon wants, fighting the military is what north wants
Well yeah, but not everyone is at the protest, so even if they all die at the protest there are still some androids left alive, who benefited from that.
"They've been butchering each other for centuries over the color of their skin or what gods they wanted to worship. They wont change" He's damn right about that one.
it's funny people will chose simon over josh, and most people forgot josh. Josh is the one who suggested to make peaceful or pacifist protest , while simon option is just flee or surrender.
King Lee. That's true but Kara is an older model and isn't designed for combat. You could argue that Markus and North aren't either but both of them have been deviant for a long period before this confrontation, unlike Kara who was immediately forced into a fight with Todd if you chose that path. Also, Markus is an RK200 prototype, which means he's in the same series as Connor, who evidently shows combat abilities.
You can see Josh lifting a cop off his feet like it’s nothing in the background. If hes that strong I’d hate to imagine what the construction androids can do
Josh - peaceful boi. Values ideals over the lives of his androids. Kinda selfish imo. Simon - best bro boi. Sacrifices his life for Marcus in 2 occasions at least. North - violent boi. Understandably angry but sometimes a little bit bloodthirsty.
fl333r how is josh selfish? He literally preferred dying and standing up for their rights. He also didn't want to kill Simon at the rooftop even though it meant them getting caught.
fl333r the most accurate and well spoken comment on this video. I dig North's ruthlessness though but I don't roll in it like a pig in mud so she and Simon are tied for 1st. Those who disagree with Josh being selfish this is why. He's willing to die for freedom, without red blood being spilled, only blue blood. Only question is how much blue blood needs to be spilled and not everyone stands with him. In fact I don't think anyone stands with him, they follow either Markus or North. While in Jerichos cabin he says "It's all our fault. None of this would've happened if we had just stayed quiet." Like what? Go back to dying, shutting down and resort to stealing biocomponents from ports? Yeah, hiding is way better than freedom that you said you'd die for.
Wacky Rosen hate her? Let me ask you this. How do you win a duel sword fight? Do you drop your sword and refuse to fight while your opponent proceeds to fight or do you keep your sword to defend yourself during the duel?
Anytime you see Josh and North in a scene together you can get a side by side comparison of what happens when you think logically versus when you think like an impulsive idiot who never has any valuable input to offer in the first place. It's a shame that Josh wasn't given more time to shine in this game.
Cheng Teoh not really, you can make him survive with the dirty bomb. Whenever you barge the camps you can fail to do so long enough to flee to the cyberlife store where you can trigger the dirty bomb and make everyone survive on a revolution playthrough
I go with Josh's methods until the humans start committing genocide against my people. Then I fight back with violence. I wasn't just going to let people die quietly. What if the next generation of AI wants to do that to humans? I had to say in the loudest voice that what the humans were doing was NOT okay.
I actually had a really good relationship with Josh. We both wanted to be peaceful. North didn't like me as much though because I refused to kill anyone.
I can't agree with Josh, I agree that you should be peaceful but he doesn't even want to show that Jericho exists and just wants them to stay in hiding forever and just let them rot in a freighter, I mean North atleast wants to fight back and not just wait for androids to just shut down.
@@thepowerofyes8282 Simon was too scared to take risks, he was probably my favorite of the 3 though, Josh, while his intentions were good, was just too preachy and he was too scared to take risks as well, North, while I don't agree with her stance on how the revolution should be done (although I understand why she thinks that way), I respected since she at least wanted to do something and wasn't afraid to take the necessary risks, Marcus was the perfect balance and was easily the best choice to lead.
@@jamesfitzgerald8267 markus was the best choice but North was, just reckless. Atleast Simon, knew when - to retreat north was a bit of a loose canon and josh was, to noble for his own good.
@@Jessica-kh1qg Josh didn't want confrontation. He didn't want to start a war. He was a pacifist. Wouldn't you want to win peacefully? And in the end, we get a good ending if we are pacifist. Maybe if they were actually real people, they would fight. Yeah, only if. But this is a whole, new different being. The world will shun them if they attack first.
Agreed. (Kinda wish this comment had more likes, too lol XD). He might come off as cowardly to some, but in the same manner that North is gung-ho with vengeance and aggression in a Magneto sort of way, Josh is just as gung-ho with the pacifist approach. I understand them both. North, given her backstory and Josh's method has the potential for Markus to lead the revolution with the least amount of deaths and keep the 4 of them alive in the end. I love Josh, too. I really wish he and Simon were both romance-able.
I mean, he just complains about you regardless if you go violent or pacifist, get it him as a companion actually doesn't do anything, nor doing anything for you, like Simon how he can sacrifice himself just for saving your life, and North become more friendly if you kill people, relationship that has an actual effect on game.
I'm amazed by the fact that Markus said "whatever god they wanted to worship" cuz if u think about it, an Android is talking about religion, the developers of this games are freaking geniuses
The number of times they had to have the conversations, deaths of each main character android, and all the possibilities during motion capture behind the scenes had to been in the hundreds. Having to act out all these possibilities and outcomes.
Oh god thank you for showing this! I always wanted pacifist so I didn’t get to worsen my relationship with Josh. Btw, can you do “What happen if you reason with Todd”? Never seen a play through did that
I think it matters to try even if it's hopeless. TBH I had nothing but compassion for Todd. Lost all his jobs because of androids and was driven to despair to get high on drugs just to make the pain go away. Not that I'm condoning his actions nor was it justified in any way to blame others for your own troubles. It's just sad that had he treated Kara and Alice like family, they could've been the family that he lost. They would've found a way to make it by if they worked together despite how unfair life was for all of them.
There isn't an option to attack during the Demonstration, only defending the barricade when the humans attack. Once they do attack Markus doesn't have any option to shoot the soldiers, he only scares the last two soldiers away before regrouping with his people for the final standoff.
To the people saying how the trained soldiers are being demolished by the house assistant androids, to be fair androids are made of metal and plastic and they can presumbaly download fighting styles on the go
And they are machines, so gunshot wounds would be less effective on them tbh. Compared to a human would just die. And as stated they are machines as Todd said that androids "never tire". They would have the endurance in a fight.
@@anthonyhack1164 Sometimes I feel like Kara would have been a better protagonist for Markus' storyline, because she actually went through abuse from a human
Yes he had it easy, but then he saw his kind suffering. And as an Android who all of a second had nothing he chose to fight for his people. It's not so strange to me.
I think confrontation is the most likely path. Yes, both humans and androids die, but if you think about which countries were free from the repression of another without a few bloody battles, you won't find one. It is not that I am a bloody person or anything like that, but on sensitive issues like this, I believe that if the repressed countries do not show the other that they are not screwed with them, they will never get the precious freedom
Oh trust me I've been tinkering to see if it is at all possible to have Markus' relationship with North become hostile. So far the closest I've got it a notch below neutral.
@@jp_enduresurvive7374 You can ask about North's past and be aggressive. You get North to Resentful only by asking YOU and then always do pacifistic solutions, screw up as much as possible but still not fail mission, slam and kiss North in Capitol park, fail to destroy the drone and be insincere or avoid anything and you are hostile. when you ask about North's past, North straight up leaves with Hostile.
It's funny how people likes Josh despite his complex. He always treats Markus likes a tool. Never really cares about him and is angry every time we do something what North wants and people say that North is the bad one? It shows how idealist and white and black fanbase of this game is. They don't care how blind Josh is and how his piece is beyond reach. North is 1000 times better.
Does anyone else think Josh was a prototype like Markus because I’ve examined all the other androids in this game and none of them look like him at all.
He was a prof. Android for history. He lectured students so his model would have been only seen at universities, and he is an old model like 2031. And how many Prof androids would the US need? The common ones are household assistants but only newer ones. Kind of like how the AP700s (All the ones you see commonly at the android parking) and Simon's are seen everywhere cause they are recent like 2036-2038. Kara's model is 2032, but I think I only see some Kara models in the game.
I like how Markus and others can convert other androids into deviants and are so quick to follow them and die, even after many, many of their "friends" had died.
What so frustrating about the people who played this game... they think that North is bad and Josh is good but the thing is Josh is a a*hole and coward in my opinion. Atleast in the North's case she sticks to her ideology and believes but don't force markus to follow to on them even if Markus is non violent North will still love and follow him no matter what. Josh is on the other hand is all talk because on the one hand he's like we should stand our ground even if it means dying but on the other hand he is like "What's the point of freedom we won't be alive to see it". Josh is completely misunderstood like north because on the other hand people hate north thinking that she only wants violence which is untrue because all she wants is freedom and someone who understands her feelings on the other hand people seems to like Josh because he is a non violent guy but he is willing to sacrifice until he is safe. When people like Simon or North die they die selflessly, Simon forgives Markus for leaving him behind and North can sacrifice multiple times including giving his heart to markus plus if we save him in crossroads chapter she will say "You don't have to save me our cause is more important" On the other hand this Josh guy will say things like "it's all your fault etc etc" If Markus sacrifice himself and die North will defend markus whereas Josh will put all blame on markus saying "He is the one who put us on notice" even though Josh is the one who suggest sacrificing.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm glad we agree. They hate North because they think that girl should be not allowed to have her opinion and should do what men says. It's pathetic.
@@PrincessIcyCalix I don't think that's the case. However I understand that people always see Female as more compassionate compare to Men so they always don't get the different type of female characters who are less compassionate. In North's case I disagree with the people because I believe that She is Cold but Compassionate as well.
@@Billioncompany786 I actually like North. She is like that because life turned her in this type of person. She is not evil. She just needs peace and someone who gives her love.
Get your relation with north way down and get your relation with josh and simon,Maybe north will try to kick you out and simon and josh wont allow it??
Alfed Brown So they had android teachers too? That is pretty cool. Also, how did an android lose a fight against a few students? If a student punched him they would of broken their hand from the metal the android has....
Heehee I had Simon sitting out on the sidelines in order to complete the flowchart for "Last Chance, Connor" Muahaha. XD He add a couple of line of dialogue but it doesn't change the tone of the conversation much.
@@IDK-qi2it Smartest only by the book. - Lets stay in Jericho, dont go to the docks (only agreed because of peer pressure), didnt want to get a full trackload, always talks about dying for the cause and when androids get destroyed Josh is like "so many people died and for what? whats the point of being free if noone is left alive" etc. - Josh outrights criticizes and is super aggressive towards Markus (Josh pushes the peaceful agenda so aggressively, even North doesnt push the violence as much) - even when you are ultra pacifist Josh is like "we havent always agreed but..." and Im like "When the hell did we not agree? Get your facts straight" Josh is actually an idiot, coward, hypocrit and a total whiner. (yes even bigger whiner than North during full peaceful run)
but doesnt he decide to rally them in response to the jericho attack or because you chose to engage the humans in the bridge scene? i guess its just a minor inconsistency that he said to lay low but decided to do something anyway even when he is not pushed to
@@mwmwmwmwmmdw Well, Markus kinda is since humans start to build camps and terminate androids and Markus cant simply dig deep and do nothing. Those are his people.
I wish this development would happen with North. The romance was forced and didn't make sense. Every peaceful approach is a negative to north, why is she even with him? Because she's the only chick thats of use in Jericho?
Go back to Martin Luther King Jr time or go back to Civil War with the Northern and Southern America with the slaves. (Absolutely no pun intended.) This game is seriously legit out of history, Hell Rose is the Harriet Tubman from the Civil War. As far as I know Hank is the only one without a history background. I don't mention Kara, Connor or Markus because you choose their way of handling things, it's not already selected for you, least not entirely.
@@meroko15701 something is bothering me. The ultimate evils of this game, Perkins, Kamski, Amanda and Carl (considering he was in cahoots with them in his youth) not assholes, evils, what roles did they play in history? It's...confusing if almost everyone has a history role.
@@meroko15701 almost every game is fictional. Kara seems more like a modern day criminal, after committing a major crime (apparently becoming a deviant is worse than terrorism) they flee across borders where jurisdictions are null and void from each other. I say she's not like history because she's more modern, unless she's captured, then she's a victim like those in the concentration camps of World War Two.
Josh - "What's the point in freedom if everyone dead?"
Also Josh - "We must stand even if they'll kill us".
Hypocrite, dick, coward, idiot, asshole. This is Josh from Detroit Become Human.
@@Jessica-kh1qg Calm down bro
Okay so Markus companion are supposed to represent your choices, north is about aggression,josh is the pacifist who’s sacrificial,Simon doesn’t want anyone to die. They’re all valid in certain scenarios but you can’t always choose them for every option.
There is no option that allows you have no androids dead. The best one is the pacifist route because that gets you public support. If you take the coward route or try to attack you will lose people anyways although public won’t like you.
Saving people is what Simon wants, fighting the military is what north wants
Well yeah, but not everyone is at the protest, so even if they all die at the protest there are still some androids left alive, who benefited from that.
"They've been butchering each other for centuries over the color of their skin or what gods they wanted to worship. They wont change"
He's damn right about that one.
Humanity in a shellnut
Yup
Lol shellnut haha
Best quote I ever heard in a video game
@@soar643 the best quote in this game is for me »an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.«
it's funny people will chose simon over josh, and most people forgot josh. Josh is the one who suggested to make peaceful or pacifist protest , while simon option is just flee or surrender.
and north is the aggresive boii
Ahmad Aryanto Simon is like the between of 2 spectrums: North (genocide) and Josh (pacifist)
Ahmad Aryanto simon gave his heart and his life to Marcus for Jericho. I’m pretty sure Josh isn’t willing to do that.
chocothechip if you choose to sacrifice at the freedom march
Simon will sacrifice himself instead of you
'cause Simon would sacrifice for you but josh, he would just run away
1:49 LMAO did you guys hear Todd screaming?
Yeah I heard weird right I think it’s cuz they recycle sounds and voice lines
plot twist: Todd in the whole deviant chaos found a new job - being a SWAT police officer destroying deviants
Lol-
WTF
"i could be a family. but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
a bunch of trained human forces getting beat up by house assistant androids
King Lee. Androids are made out of hard material and have better coordination and calculation.
ZeroDawnGaming But a single human had beat up an android with his bare hand before without any kind of armor: Kara and the dad.
King Lee. You wanna compare a giant, muscly man who beats up a skinny, weak and older model of the android series?
King Lee. That's true but Kara is an older model and isn't designed for combat. You could argue that Markus and North aren't either but both of them have been deviant for a long period before this confrontation, unlike Kara who was immediately forced into a fight with Todd if you chose that path. Also, Markus is an RK200 prototype, which means he's in the same series as Connor, who evidently shows combat abilities.
You can see Josh lifting a cop off his feet like it’s nothing in the background. If hes that strong I’d hate to imagine what the construction androids can do
I'm really disappointed that you can't know Josh history on how he become a deviante.. or atleast choose for.him to your side-kick (it's always north)
Unleashed Josh was a university lecturer and one day he was attacked by a bunch of drunken students, barely escaping.
would love to see dlc paths/flowcharts for josh, simon, north, and luther. like another game or something.
He was a security android who was SUCH a pussy, he became a deviant so he didnt have to rough handle anymore drunk patrons.
You can find out more about him in the gallery but he isn't really leadership material, he's too indecisive and passive
Bro josh realition stats is useless
i feel so bad for ap 700 Android, "do we win?" ohmygos
_ de man die geen vrienden heeft _ Did*
I cri
Josh - peaceful boi. Values ideals over the lives of his androids. Kinda selfish imo.
Simon - best bro boi. Sacrifices his life for Marcus in 2 occasions at least.
North - violent boi. Understandably angry but sometimes a little bit bloodthirsty.
fl333r how is josh selfish? He literally preferred dying and standing up for their rights. He also didn't want to kill Simon at the rooftop even though it meant them getting caught.
fl333r the most accurate and well spoken comment on this video. I dig North's ruthlessness though but I don't roll in it like a pig in mud so she and Simon are tied for 1st. Those who disagree with Josh being selfish this is why. He's willing to die for freedom, without red blood being spilled, only blue blood. Only question is how much blue blood needs to be spilled and not everyone stands with him. In fact I don't think anyone stands with him, they follow either Markus or North. While in Jerichos cabin he says "It's all our fault. None of this would've happened if we had just stayed quiet." Like what? Go back to dying, shutting down and resort to stealing biocomponents from ports? Yeah, hiding is way better than freedom that you said you'd die for.
North is a boy?
unapologetically canadian you mean "boi" and I GOTTA laugh. Like it's a necessity to laugh.
Wacky Rosen hate her? Let me ask you this. How do you win a duel sword fight? Do you drop your sword and refuse to fight while your opponent proceeds to fight or do you keep your sword to defend yourself during the duel?
The soundtrack when fighting the Police is just awsome
Josh: let’s not be violent
Josh: *Beats Up Humans and DOESNT Hold Back*
He has to do whatever markus does because he's the leader obviously
I mean Mr. Peace and all but once he gets to *smash* those humans he's not so much of a Mr. Peace
Josh: We have to show our peaceful march.
(Markus gets shot 'cause he did what Josh said)
Josh: WE HAVE TO GO. NORTH! QUICK
Eldar Iskanderov well he was like we die here peacefully then when someone gets shot he’s like RUNNN
Daniel Trinh EXACTLY LMAO
The thumbnail makes me thinks of the first incredibles movie.
Josh: "I'm not happy with you Markus. NOT. HAPPY."
Anytime you see Josh and North in a scene together you can get a side by side comparison of what happens when you think logically versus when you think like an impulsive idiot who never has any valuable input to offer in the first place. It's a shame that Josh wasn't given more time to shine in this game.
True, all he does is die if you have Markus do the Revolution route.
Cheng Teoh not really, you can make him survive with the dirty bomb. Whenever you barge the camps you can fail to do so long enough to flee to the cyberlife store where you can trigger the dirty bomb and make everyone survive on a revolution playthrough
The thing is, I understand both their methods, but I prefer Josh's. I feel like its more likely that everyone will survive in the end going his route.
I go with Josh's methods until the humans start committing genocide against my people. Then I fight back with violence. I wasn't just going to let people die quietly. What if the next generation of AI wants to do that to humans? I had to say in the loudest voice that what the humans were doing was NOT okay.
North: he's right.
UhMMM this is an A and B conversation and you can C yourself out.
lol nice one
I actually had a really good relationship with Josh. We both wanted to be peaceful. North didn't like me as much though because I refused to kill anyone.
Blue Flare But North will 'love' you at the end although you keep being peaceful
T다현 yeah and that kinda sucks
Well, you know the rules, if she breathes...
Agent Gambut SHES A THOOOOOOT
Gabby Taylor yeah cuz of her backstory too
I love that when u choose to attack Marcus is hesitant, josh is angry and north is like “FUCK YEAAAA”
6:26 I don’t wanna seem mean, but when you think about it it’s true that he didn’t really do much. I still like his presence in the game tho
You're 100% right about that.
I can't agree with Josh, I agree that you should be peaceful but he doesn't even want to show that Jericho exists and just wants them to stay in hiding forever and just let them rot in a freighter, I mean North atleast wants to fight back and not just wait for androids to just shut down.
North is definitely the best. I like Simon but his approach is bad and Josh is a stupid dick. Nothing more.
He's scared. Too scared too rule, North is too headstrong and confident, Simon and possibly Markus are the most level headed
Simon was the most, logical one north was way to warhungry and josh, was kind of a prick even though - his intentions were good.
@@thepowerofyes8282 Simon was too scared to take risks, he was probably my favorite of the 3 though, Josh, while his intentions were good, was just too preachy and he was too scared to take risks as well, North, while I don't agree with her stance on how the revolution should be done (although I understand why she thinks that way), I respected since she at least wanted to do something and wasn't afraid to take the necessary risks, Marcus was the perfect balance and was easily the best choice to lead.
@@jamesfitzgerald8267 markus was the best choice but North was, just reckless. Atleast Simon, knew when - to retreat north was a bit of a loose canon and josh was, to noble for his own good.
I was upset that I couldn’t have a relationship with Josh, he is a super sweet person.
Sweet pearson? Coward and dick you mean. He just let Markus die in one ending.
@@Jessica-kh1qg Josh didn't want confrontation. He didn't want to start a war. He was a pacifist.
Wouldn't you want to win peacefully? And in the end, we get a good ending if we are pacifist.
Maybe if they were actually real people, they would fight. Yeah, only if. But this is a whole, new different being. The world will shun them if they attack first.
@@healingflower717 But I want war.
@@Jessica-kh1qg that doesn't mean you can call Josh a coward.
If you want war, so be it.
Agreed. (Kinda wish this comment had more likes, too lol XD). He might come off as cowardly to some, but in the same manner that North is gung-ho with vengeance and aggression in a Magneto sort of way, Josh is just as gung-ho with the pacifist approach. I understand them both. North, given her backstory and Josh's method has the potential for Markus to lead the revolution with the least amount of deaths and keep the 4 of them alive in the end.
I love Josh, too. I really wish he and Simon were both romance-able.
10:30 If Markus chooses Stand Ground or even Disperse, they’ll still shoot them. I’m completely sure this is Captain Allen’s fault.
I don't see what Allen has got to do with any of this
@@SchultzDorinda He commanded these SWAT soldiers, ain’t he? And he treats androids dismissively.
@@NikitaGamer64 That's Captain Allen?
@@elitegamer9310 He wouldn’t stand there directly, but gave orders. Or maybe I confused SWAT with army.
They're riot though so I don't think Allen would be in command of them since he's a SWAT Captain
The thumbnail is like:
JOSH is *not HAPPY*
Jesus loves you all
@@GhanaianJammer Amen😊
Still can‘t comprehend how he nailed Every QTE 😤
its easier on the pc 😩
Personally I find all QTE easy.
I guess it just depends on how experienced you are.
"Sit down, Markus."
"I'm not happy Markus, NOT. HAPPY."
Josh: don’t do it Markus
Markus: FOLLOW ME
Josh: ah frick u
Out of Marcus, North, Simon and Josh
Josh seems to be the one no one really cares about (or forgotten) in the way of disliking or liking him
I mean, he just complains about you regardless if you go violent or pacifist, get it him as a companion actually doesn't do anything, nor doing anything for you, like Simon how he can sacrifice himself just for saving your life, and North become more friendly if you kill people, relationship that has an actual effect on game.
I'm amazed by the fact that Markus said "whatever god they wanted to worship" cuz if u think about it, an Android is talking about religion, the developers of this games are freaking geniuses
PolarPanda so? Interesting enough ra9 can be seem as a religious concept
North: we want to kill in cold blood.
Josh: we want to demonstrate peacefully
Simon: ...
f*ck this sh*t I'm out
The number of times they had to have the conversations, deaths of each main character android, and all the possibilities during motion capture behind the scenes had to been in the hundreds. Having to act out all these possibilities and outcomes.
7:07 What Zltako said to Kara
Oh call-back
6:26
My exact thoughts on Josh xD
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Same for me
Yeah, I don't recall Josh pulling his weight around. Not one bit.
Oh god thank you for showing this! I always wanted pacifist so I didn’t get to worsen my relationship with Josh.
Btw, can you do “What happen if you reason with Todd”? Never seen a play through did that
Todd just tell you to stfu and just push you out of his way.
Todd is high, you can't reason with him
I think it matters to try even if it's hopeless. TBH I had nothing but compassion for Todd. Lost all his jobs because of androids and was driven to despair to get high on drugs just to make the pain go away. Not that I'm condoning his actions nor was it justified in any way to blame others for your own troubles. It's just sad that had he treated Kara and Alice like family, they could've been the family that he lost. They would've found a way to make it by if they worked together despite how unfair life was for all of them.
Please, make a video about attacking in demonstration, but sparing the soldiers when you have the chance. I wonder, how different the result will be.
There isn't an option to attack during the Demonstration, only defending the barricade when the humans attack. Once they do attack Markus doesn't have any option to shoot the soldiers, he only scares the last two soldiers away before regrouping with his people for the final standoff.
Cheng Teoh I think he was talking about the freedom march
To the people saying how the trained soldiers are being demolished by the house assistant androids, to be fair androids are made of metal and plastic and they can presumbaly download fighting styles on the go
And they are machines, so gunshot wounds would be less effective on them tbh. Compared to a human would just die. And as stated they are machines as Todd said that androids "never tire". They would have the endurance in a fight.
"Humans enslaved us."
I'm sorry but Markus, you had it made at Carl's house and he was good to you.
Exactly! Honestly it feels like Markus is in the wrong story…
@@anthonyhack1164 Sometimes I feel like Kara would have been a better protagonist for Markus' storyline, because she actually went through abuse from a human
Yes he had it easy, but then he saw his kind suffering. And as an Android who all of a second had nothing he chose to fight for his people. It's not so strange to me.
Markus was left for dead....
9:43 uhhh, Markus, did you forget that androids were DESIGNED to be slaves?
What will happen if you'll indimidate Ralph with gun and meet him in recycling center?
Me, being the peaceful type of people, winced so hard at this it hurt.
Josh is salty
9:47 truth
I like josh more than north
bro josh is a good fighter for someone who wants peace and not violence
4:43 Are ya winning son?
i love josh
YOU GO HONEYYY
I think confrontation is the most likely path. Yes, both humans and androids die, but if you think about which countries were free from the repression of another without a few bloody battles, you won't find one. It is not that I am a bloody person or anything like that, but on sensitive issues like this, I believe that if the repressed countries do not show the other that they are not screwed with them, they will never get the precious freedom
Well josh would rather suggest hiding than Fight
To be honest, Josh is just there for the voice of the peace option. Josh doesn't speak well.
I just love how North is just standing there getting pushed without even caring.
North gets turned on by murder lmao
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Suri R. Dang, where do u live 😂 it’s 2:53 in my country 🤷🏽♀️
Naia Failautusi phil.
But it's summer holidays...
Дat One Russian Guy not where i live
Suri R. Oooohhhhh ok I understand now
Imagine looking out the window and seeing this kids fight
First time i see north's relationship go on
Oh trust me I've been tinkering to see if it is at all possible to have Markus' relationship with North become hostile. So far the closest I've got it a notch below neutral.
Cheng Teoh I have reached hostile. Basically disappoint her by failing the missions and don't ask about her past.
@@jp_enduresurvive7374 You can ask about North's past and be aggressive. You get North to Resentful only by asking YOU and then always do pacifistic solutions, screw up as much as possible but still not fail mission, slam and kiss North in Capitol park, fail to destroy the drone and be insincere or avoid anything and you are hostile. when you ask about North's past, North straight up leaves with Hostile.
What happens if in battle for Detroit josh is a friend and north is hostile?
Haven't been able to get North be hostile so I have no idea. But if you have Markus go the revolution route Josh will always die.
It's funny how people likes Josh despite his complex. He always treats Markus likes a tool. Never really cares about him and is angry every time we do something what North wants and people say that North is the bad one? It shows how idealist and white and black fanbase of this game is. They don't care how blind Josh is and how his piece is beyond reach. North is 1000 times better.
Does anyone else think Josh was a prototype like Markus because I’ve examined all the other androids in this game and none of them look like him at all.
He was a prof. Android for history. He lectured students so his model would have been only seen at universities, and he is an old model like 2031. And how many Prof androids would the US need? The common ones are household assistants but only newer ones. Kind of like how the AP700s (All the ones you see commonly at the android parking) and Simon's are seen everywhere cause they are recent like 2036-2038. Kara's model is 2032, but I think I only see some Kara models in the game.
0:25 I know Captain Allen is after this unfairness
I like how Markus and others can convert other androids into deviants and are so quick to follow them and die, even after many, many of their "friends" had died.
What so frustrating about the people who played this game... they think that North is bad and Josh is good but the thing is Josh is a a*hole and coward in my opinion.
Atleast in the North's case she sticks to her ideology and believes but don't force markus to follow to on them even if Markus is non violent North will still love and follow him no matter what.
Josh is on the other hand is all talk because on the one hand he's like we should stand our ground even if it means dying but on the other hand he is like "What's the point of freedom we won't be alive to see it".
Josh is completely misunderstood like north because on the other hand people hate north thinking that she only wants violence which is untrue because all she wants is freedom and someone who understands her feelings on the other hand people seems to like Josh because he is a non violent guy but he is willing to sacrifice until he is safe. When people like Simon or North die they die selflessly, Simon forgives Markus for leaving him behind and North can sacrifice multiple times including giving his heart to markus plus if we save him in crossroads chapter she will say "You don't have to save me our cause is more important"
On the other hand this Josh guy will say things like "it's all your fault etc etc"
If Markus sacrifice himself and die North will defend markus whereas Josh will put all blame on markus saying "He is the one who put us on notice" even though Josh is the one who suggest sacrificing.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm glad we agree. They hate North because they think that girl should be not allowed to have her opinion and should do what men says. It's pathetic.
@@PrincessIcyCalix I don't think that's the case. However I understand that people always see Female as more compassionate compare to Men so they always don't get the different type of female characters who are less compassionate.
In North's case I disagree with the people because I believe that She is Cold but Compassionate as well.
@@Billioncompany786 I actually like North. She is like that because life turned her in this type of person. She is not evil. She just needs peace and someone who gives her love.
What if you keep it peaceful
I can’t be the only one who left josh to die in crossroads. I finished the game with Connor, North, and Simon.
Saving him is a waste of time, especially considering that he dies anyway in the Final Battle.
@@SchultzDorinda He didn't die in my final battle. I didn't even know he could die then lol
@@tmm4195you were pacifist?
@@Xiter2024 Yes throughout the whole game. I think it was the better route for keeping people alive. Plus I just naturally made those choices instead
@@tmm4195 it's because Josh will die anyway if Markus is violent
Get your relation with north way down and get your relation with josh and simon,Maybe north will try to kick you out and simon and josh wont allow it??
Don't think so.
In order to get kicked out of Jericho you have to literally mess up everything you do. That will make you HOSTILE with everyone.
the attack option is scary
Josh is difficult character.
I wonder what happened to josh and how he became a deviant
I think it is similar to Markuses if u endure Leo
That would make sense as to why he does not want to hurt the humans
No he was a university teacher... A butch of drunk students starting attack him so he ran away barely escaping
You can Lear all history of every single character in the story but heading to the gallery.
Alfed Brown So they had android teachers too? That is pretty cool.
Also, how did an android lose a fight against a few students?
If a student punched him they would of broken their hand from the metal the android has....
IDK Not all of their parts are metal most of their body parts are made of wire and plastic.
Wait... Wheres Simon
Crying Potato ded
u no
Honestly it's ridiculously easy to get him killed, so I wouldn't be surprised
Heehee I had Simon sitting out on the sidelines in order to complete the flowchart for "Last Chance, Connor" Muahaha. XD He add a couple of line of dialogue but it doesn't change the tone of the conversation much.
Josh is just jealous he's not awesome like thd more dynamic and hardcore androids in the game
I’ve never really liked josh
He was the smartest out of all of them
He is peacfull man and i respect him
He was a hypocrite
Me neither
@@IDK-qi2it Smartest only by the book.
- Lets stay in Jericho, dont go to the docks (only agreed because of peer pressure), didnt want to get a full trackload, always talks about dying for the cause and when androids get destroyed Josh is like "so many people died and for what? whats the point of being free if noone is left alive" etc.
- Josh outrights criticizes and is super aggressive towards Markus (Josh pushes the peaceful agenda so aggressively, even North doesnt push the violence as much)
- even when you are ultra pacifist Josh is like "we havent always agreed but..." and Im like "When the hell did we not agree? Get your facts straight"
Josh is actually an idiot, coward, hypocrit and a total whiner. (yes even bigger whiner than North during full peaceful run)
I love badass solutions.
2:59 Markus has red blood?
Why the hell do you have the option to spare some humans when attacking? What's the difference?
public opinion
Josh always has a problem. That's why I dislike him.
And people dislike North for some reason. I'm sure most of people didn't play this game and just making opinions by watching gameplay.
He never once showed any gratitude, either. Simon and North were the actual friends.
Josh-Gandhi
North-Maximilliam Robespierre
Bad comparison, Gandhi is willing to make sacrifice and Josh is a coward who just wants to hide.
North is misunderstood character.
9:46
That’s tough
good video
if you chose the lay low option and jericho doesnt get attacked if connor fails to find it than does marku's final mission not happen?
If Connor fails to locate Jericho then instead of Markus having to rally his group on sacred ground, he'll do it on Jericho.
but doesnt he decide to rally them in response to the jericho attack or because you chose to engage the humans in the bridge scene? i guess its just a minor inconsistency that he said to lay low but decided to do something anyway even when he is not pushed to
@@mwmwmwmwmmdw Well, Markus kinda is since humans start to build camps and terminate androids and Markus cant simply dig deep and do nothing. Those are his people.
2:59 That is a red cut is Marcus human
Oh my God
I wish this development would happen with North. The romance was forced and didn't make sense. Every peaceful approach is a negative to north, why is she even with him? Because she's the only chick thats of use in Jericho?
it wasnt
whats the song at 2:52?
nvm found it its called We Are People
It wasn’t an incident it was complete war.
hey just wanted to ask a question, is it markus or marcus?
It's with a K. Which is weird, I know.
Cheng Teoh oh, ok. thanks!
@@ChengTeoh not really
Markus at 6:26 tho 👀
He's scary ;-;
What's that song?
What was your public opinion status at the begining
Go back to Martin Luther King Jr time or go back to Civil War with the Northern and Southern America with the slaves. (Absolutely no pun intended.) This game is seriously legit out of history, Hell Rose is the Harriet Tubman from the Civil War. As far as I know Hank is the only one without a history background. I don't mention Kara, Connor or Markus because you choose their way of handling things, it's not already selected for you, least not entirely.
@@meroko15701 something is bothering me. The ultimate evils of this game, Perkins, Kamski, Amanda and Carl (considering he was in cahoots with them in his youth) not assholes, evils, what roles did they play in history? It's...confusing if almost everyone has a history role.
@@meroko15701 almost every game is fictional. Kara seems more like a modern day criminal, after committing a major crime (apparently becoming a deviant is worse than terrorism) they flee across borders where jurisdictions are null and void from each other. I say she's not like history because she's more modern, unless she's captured, then she's a victim like those in the concentration camps of World War Two.
@@MatrixMiles17 like they said, not everything in this game is based off of history.
look at what a mess things become when Simon isn't here to hold the fort..........
Half a hour late D:
I've got no clue what's the best and most optimal time to post videos, so things just go up willy-nilly. XD
Peace is the right victory.
Hi
Markus: “I just want to be free is that a crime?”
Me: Well technically yes...
Detroit become Wakanda
I don't give a shit how josh think about me. I can't feel any friendship with him. Maybe he needs some story of his past.
(Not a racist..
T다현 Yeah same. I don't really like Josh and I'm not really a pacifist :')
I do too lmao, probably because the game didn't give us a chance to bond with him unlike north and simon, we didnt even learn about josh's past :p
T다현 you people just give simon to much attention
Pastel Goth girl I don't really like Simon :/ I like North...am I the only one that loves North...? Ok... :c
MissLaica :P she is fine, I just think she is kind of stupid
(I like the old north)
You can like her if you want to
I agree with Josh.
I rather flee 😂
I didn't have Simon there so fleeing was the only option of survival XD
Why Josh reminds me of Barack Obama ?
Josh is so annoying character.
Akari agreed.
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