Fun fact: the ability to cast an X spell for an odd mana value is called out by an example in the comprehensive rules themselves: "601.3a If an effect prohibits a player from casting a spell with certain qualities, that player may consider any choices to be made during that spell’s proposal that may cause those qualities to change. If any such choices could cause that effect to no longer prohibit that player from casting that spell, the player may begin to cast the spell, ignoring the effect. Example: A player controls Void Winnower, which reads, in part, “Your opponents can’t cast spells with even mana values.” That player’s opponent may begin to cast Rolling Thunder, a card whose mana cost is {X}{R}{R}, because the chosen value of X may cause the spell’s mana value to become odd."
Kind of true. The Chimera would already have triggered, but he could then hold priority and activate Thrasios before passing priority on the Chimera trigger and eventually deciding whether or not to exchange the Chimera. But yeah, technically he should've acknowledged the trigger before activating Thrasios.
wouldn't Kyle still have been able to untap two lands from the snap? I thought that you resolved as much of the spell as you can when resolving it on the stack. or am I mistaken?
If all the targets of a card are illegal at the point of resolution the spell fizzles. It doesn't resolve. Since Snap's target is no longer on the battlefield(or even if it had just been given the protection from blue) it is no longer a legal target and since Snap only targets 1 creature, the spell does not resolve
Tyler still won at the end but I'm wondering what's the thought process behind the crop rotation at ua-cam.com/video/zkXQ3Y7ukhQ/v-deo.html. He was in a dominant position but having the crop countered means he loses a kinnan activation (and probably even more subsequently if he didn't have a replacement land). I don't play enough Kinnan to know what he was looking for but in terms of risk reward (assuming no replacement land in hand) was it worth?
Tyler was likely going to go get a Gaea's Cradle which would easily have allowed him to activate Kinnan multiple times a turn which would further his lead above everyone else.
20 minute game only for the player who went first and had a turn 1 Remora to win. Unfortunately this game felt like a train wreck in slow motion from the 7 minute mark when Tyler slammed a t4 Void Winnower lmao GGs to all the players for being good sports about it. You could tell they where just waiting for the win lol
So Tyler's deck really looks like a deck that would be fun to play but awful to play against. Have you considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?
I love how fucking silly you guys get whenever you have Kyle on! It's refreshing to remember to be goofy and have a good time with your pals while you're trying to win 😉 Side Note: When Kyle played Seedborn Muse for the first time he tapped 5 instead of 6! Thalia was on the boaaaard!!! (He had an extra mana open so he could have payed so it didn't really affect the turn) EDIT: Thalia hits noncreatures so I was mistaken about my catch!!!
Question wouldn’t all the odd spells be even and all the even spells be odd (non creatures spells) becasue Thalia is on the board to make it cost 1 extra?
Damn, what a handsome game. Let's do it again sometime
This has rival energy 😂
Hell yeah you're always a blast to play with!
Anytime
Oh man.
It's so nice that you guys have mtg tournament winner Brain Kibler.
Can we just take a moment and appreciate the record scratch on Tyler’s turn 1 Fish?
The energy in this video was insane, I loved it
Omg it feels like Christmas! Kyle, kinnan, and winota in the same episode
I was literally just about to say that
Bro Winota is bad.
No, no Cam that’s not a robot that’s an eldrazi duh
Obviously right?
Dylan: 😮😮😮😮😮
Happy to see Kyle playing with the boys, love that guy
By far one of the most hilarious games I’ve watched on this channel - not the gameplay just the commentary was so good
agreed, top notch banter
Fun fact: the ability to cast an X spell for an odd mana value is called out by an example in the comprehensive rules themselves:
"601.3a If an effect prohibits a player from casting a spell with certain qualities, that player may consider any choices to be made during that spell’s proposal that may cause those qualities to change. If any such choices could cause that effect to no longer prohibit that player from casting that spell, the player may begin to cast the spell, ignoring the effect.
Example: A player controls Void Winnower, which reads, in part, “Your opponents can’t cast spells with even mana values.” That player’s opponent may begin to cast Rolling Thunder, a card whose mana cost is {X}{R}{R}, because the chosen value of X may cause the spell’s mana value to become odd."
ya and then since finale is X or less you can still go get an even CMC card anyway lol
Just Dylan casually slamming the P onto the B was my highlight of this game.
You guys sounded like you had so much fun playing Kyle, this game was a blast to watch
17:35 The most posh Breeding Pool ever cast in MTG history.
Kyle is one of my most favorite guests on PTW
Appreciate you
Tyler lost to his Summoner's Pact 17:07 , which he forgot to pay in his next upkeep. Im surprised nobody has caught this yet.
Didn't Cam Fluster Storm both the Worldly Tutor and the Summoner's Pact?
@@davidchapman7350Nope, only worldly, but they didn't resolve the summoners pact either.
The beat switch when the remora came out...💀
I think Wizards of the coast should add « oooooaoaoa that’s a 3 cmc spell, ok » to void winnower's flavor text
Plateau on to the battlefield made me fall down the stairs
By far the best moment in the history of PtW is the Breeding Pool round robin
I just love how the music changes right when Tyler plays turn 1 fish
We've got my favorite commander in Kinnan with my two favorite UA-cam channels playing together
This is amazing
And on Wrestlemania weekend?! Come on
Cam i hope you give armix/kraum another go. such a good pairing. Gratz to Tyler though!
I don’t think Tyler is allowed to active thrasios in between perplexing chimeras trigger and the cast of finale of devistation at 21:00
Kind of true. The Chimera would already have triggered, but he could then hold priority and activate Thrasios before passing priority on the Chimera trigger and eventually deciding whether or not to exchange the Chimera. But yeah, technically he should've acknowledged the trigger before activating Thrasios.
Spells with X in their mana cost treat X as 0 anywhere but on the stack. Once on the stack it's MV is determined as whatever the chosen X is.
I'm a simple man I see Brain Kibler, i click!
Why was Winota bounced with Rift if she had jsut received protection from blue til end of turn from Giver of Runes? 5:22
The Giver of Runes activation was still on the stack when Rift was played.
@@Cadetcons Ooohh, yes! Silly me.
always love your content the ending kills me every time T-T
That was an incredible eldrazi impression lol
BUFF LITTLE KYLE!
Great guest spot, great game! Keep up the dope shit.
21:28 Tyler no long has mana crypt cuz it was countered by force of negation... right?
@@raedien No it wasn't, go back and watch. The Mana Crypt was exiled by Force of Negation.
25 mins??? Nice Sunday to sit down and enjoy this video! ❤❤❤
Can we take a moment for the pops lingo. Holy shit this channel gets better every week
Where did Cam get those amazing looking duals? They are amazing is there a link to get them?
Etsy has a lot of beautiful duals
@@ChristopherDennis89 is that where they are from? Ok cool
I can't believe how close it was to Kinnan being stopped
How did cyclone rift bounce Winota if Winota has protection from blue from Giver of Runes?
What mod did you use to start with Damocles. I want to do custom challenges too
Best line of channel:
Cam: what’s in everyone’s graveyard?
Kyle: in terms of?…
Cam: ..cards. 😂
ASHITAKAA!! Bruh, I really need to know where Tyler (also my name 😂) got that Ashitaka from. Mononoke Hime is my favorite movie of all time.
Good game fellas. Glad to see the results today.
Shout out to the record scratch drop on the turn one fish. Was that Dylan or Cam on the edit?
Dylan!
@Play to Win had a feeling. Great content as always. Gave me the feeling of when a roller coaster goes down the first hill when that fish dropped.
wouldn't Kyle still have been able to untap two lands from the snap? I thought that you resolved as much of the spell as you can when resolving it on the stack. or am I mistaken?
If all the targets of a card are illegal at the point of resolution the spell fizzles. It doesn't resolve.
Since Snap's target is no longer on the battlefield(or even if it had just been given the protection from blue) it is no longer a legal target and since Snap only targets 1 creature, the spell does not resolve
@@Dylan-vs6sf So I could think of it as a counterspell on the stack that no longer has a target?
Tyler still won at the end but I'm wondering what's the thought process behind the crop rotation at ua-cam.com/video/zkXQ3Y7ukhQ/v-deo.html. He was in a dominant position but having the crop countered means he loses a kinnan activation (and probably even more subsequently if he didn't have a replacement land). I don't play enough Kinnan to know what he was looking for but in terms of risk reward (assuming no replacement land in hand) was it worth?
Tyler was likely going to go get a Gaea's Cradle which would easily have allowed him to activate Kinnan multiple times a turn which would further his lead above everyone else.
I don't remember for sure but I think I was probably going for cradle and yeah I probably shouldn't have
I was eating cereal and damn near choked on my applejacks during that begin 😂😂😂
lmao y'all were going feral near the end there.
@21:11 can you feel it... can you feel it Mr. Krabs...
Why won't you use cathar commando on tyler mana crypt? Its a human so it wont trigger winota anyway
These Patreon reads just get better every week 😂
kyle hill with the all original, no ez boring win cons that you see every episode, deck
😎
The tye-die shirtssss, they arn't on Bonfiiiiire
Is there a reason Cam could not have Flusterstorm'ed the Mana Crypt when Tyler went to recast it, instead of wasting it on Worldly Tutor?
Flusterstorm can only hit instants or sorceries
@@PlaytoWinMTG That's a pretty good reason!
20 minute game only for the player who went first and had a turn 1 Remora to win. Unfortunately this game felt like a train wreck in slow motion from the 7 minute mark when Tyler slammed a t4 Void Winnower lmao GGs to all the players for being good sports about it. You could tell they where just waiting for the win lol
I forgot how good Perplexing Chimera was lmao
The eldrazi impression alone is worth a like
I am so hyped for this.
I'm so curious what happened to Dylan's hat
The I think you should leave references have been my favorite part of the all of your videos
That was a grind for victory!
So Tyler's deck really looks like a deck that would be fun to play but awful to play against. Have you considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?
Is there any competition for Sythis?
@@fnx.M Light-Paws.
"P" INTO THE "B"
🧐
I love all.your guys content 🎉 🤘
I think Tyler forgot to pay for his Summoners Pact. I am not sure if it mattered though.
The endgame of Kinnan is nutso!
Love to see more of this PTW on weed Mode :)
Tyler is my cEDH hero.
Cam & Dylan sound like my spirit animal if it was stoned
Perplexing chimera moment
I love watching Kinnan do Kinnan stuff 😂
Came for the Armix stayed for the Kraum!!! 😂
And then the list didn't show up!!!😢😢
Oh look. Brian Kibler as a guest. Nice.
I’m a big fan of Chris hemmsworth (if u squint)! Great game guys
The continued I think you should leave references though 😂
could kyle not sac a land to copy chain of vapor targeting hullbreaker since he controlled the phantasmal image when it got targeted
The sac trigger from image means the chain fizzled.
Ah yeah that makes sense, thanks
But I thought Chris Hemsworth was kyle Hill if you squint
Should try titania
This was a long one. I like it
Void winnower rulings text *your opponent’s can’t even*
this is the best birthday present
Favorite games to watch even though I don't play cedh 😂😊
Nice Seinfeld references
Kinnan Kinnan Kinnan
Man I love that card /deck.
What accent does Tyler have?
Whatever Fs your B...Floats your boat guys! It's floats your boat!
The epic music though
Plateu into the battlefield huh 🤔😏🧐
Damn Tyler just makes the win feel so unsatisfying lol
is it me or did yall forget about thalia making noncreature spells more expensive to change when void winnower applies?
That's not how Void Winnower and tax effects work.
Tax effects don't change a spell's mana value - they only change a spell's total cost.
I love how fucking silly you guys get whenever you have Kyle on! It's refreshing to remember to be goofy and have a good time with your pals while you're trying to win 😉
Side Note: When Kyle played Seedborn Muse for the first time he tapped 5 instead of 6! Thalia was on the boaaaard!!! (He had an extra mana open so he could have payed so it didn't really affect the turn)
EDIT: Thalia hits noncreatures so I was mistaken about my catch!!!
Appreciate that! And Good catch!
I would like to state, Thalia only hits non-creatures, 5 is what should be paid @lulu
Thalia is non creatures
@@salchi-papa silly me! You are correct Mauricio, thank you for pointing out my mistake ❤
@@maximillieagreen3323 correct! I was mistaken 😅
Question wouldn’t all the odd spells be even and all the even spells be odd (non creatures spells) becasue Thalia is on the board to make it cost 1 extra?
Those spells have an additional cost of 1 mana, but that doesn't increase their mana value (CMC).
"Thrassing" is that a new word now? keep on thrassing
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH that's a three mana spell!
damn Kyle is extra sassy, loved it 💖
and your voice acting guys were on spot, on damn spot
Dylan sounds like those dudes from the dark crystal
GG Tyler!
You can't let Simic boy keep getting away with this guys! Remember your goals! Beat him down before turn 5 lol
You're spoiled for choices with your "Who's the best commander from March of the Machine" video.
Brrrrreeding Pool good sir!
Remember everyone.... Eldrazi go OOOHHHHHHHHHHH
Kyles playmat gave me an aneurysm
B E G I N but pink and high-pitched
Very excellent gaming
For the algarythem