My Crazy Ideas for Sonic X Shadow Generations
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Here, we finally have my wishlist for Sonic X Shadow Generations. I apologise for it taking so long; despite saying this would come soon after the breakdown video, hopefully, it's worth the wait.
In case you missed the breakdown video: • Let's Talk About Sonic...
In this video, I discuss things I would like to see from this game. I should note that this is fictional and essentially what I would do if I were the one making this game, I am fully aware that this is completely insane and will likely be nowhere near the final product, but it's fun to pretend.
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So, a few things to note here:
First, with this video, my channel crossed 200 subscribers! That's fantastic and I'm glad that so many people like my ideas for this game.
Second, I forgot Rivals 1 and 2. Despite me actually really enjoying those games, I totally forgot about them in the weeks of creating this video... I don't know how, but I did. Though even still, I'm not sure if they're canon or not, if they are, I'd probably choose Meteor Base Zone from Rivals 1 and either Blue Coast Zone or Chaotic Inferno Zone from Rivals 2.
Third, I don't know if Sega considers Colours DS canon or not, which is why I didn't mention it here. Though if it is canon, then we could include Asteroid Coaster as Shadow appears there in that game.
Thank you everyone for the continuing support on this video, I've only ever had 2 videos get more views than this one and one of them was an issue with the PS4, so I don't really count that one. For a video of mine to get so many views so quickly and to gain more than 40 subscribers after 1 video is completely unheard of for this channel and I'm so grateful for the support and engagement. Let me know what other content you want to see from me and I'll see what I can do. I'll definitely be covering Sonic X Shadow Generations if and when we get more information on the game. Thanks again everyone.
Hmm I'm liking your ideas
What if they add Nights as frozen, you know Nights from Nights into dreams
Prime and Black Knight also are good ideas for stage inspiration.
You know what would be cool though? Because Crisis City is in Sonic Generations, maybe what Time Eater did messed with the timeline, so in the end of the game it's revealed that, because of that, Mephiles was brought back and was behind everything, or who knows, it could even lead up to a new game where Mephiles is the Antagonist. Will that happen? No. But would it be cool? YES.
That would be amazing, as much as i like black doom, mephiles would be just top tier choice
I feel like the whole theme of this video is "Will it happen? But it would be cool." Mephiles is one of my favourite Sonic antagonists, and to have him return as the main Villain somehow would be incredible, in my opinion. I'd definitely love to see this happen, and it would also solve the whole reboot vs. canon controversy of Crisis City being in Generations in the first place.
@@SilverStormShadow For all we know (and all I care), Time Eater could have so much unexplored power over time, it could be aware of what happened in 06'.
@G3rsonn Definitely, since the Time Eater really did just appear out of nowhere, there is a lot of potential for more of its powers to be revealed, which couls have all sorts of implications, we could see it having powers over multiple dimensions and timelines as well as power in the main timeline, potentially leading to a universe where indeed Mephiles wins, survives, or even just one where the events of 06 weren't completely erased. I feel the Time Eater has near limitless potential since we know next to nothing about it.
WHAT IS THIS FINALY FANTASY 7 REMAKE OR WHAT
The final boss(es) will be Rough n' Tumble from idw leading into Rough n' Tumble the videogame which will be the best videogame in the history of things
Why? Wouldn’t it make sense for the final boss be the biolizard from sa2 or black doom from shadow the hedgehog not to Radom characters shadow never meet before
Yeah, I remember playing Rough n' Tumble the videogame a year ago. The game is peak.
@@Doofusjerry294 No way. Rough n tumble for the win bby
@@tormentakid no Im saying it’s random two characters would fight shadow since they never met before
@@Doofusjerry294 I'm sure rouge told him about them
If Sega wanted to be lazy, they could replace the original Time Eater with the Time Eater boss from the 3DS game. It's not an amazing boss, but it's wayyy better than the main version
That's true, lol, though I don't think we will see any major changes to Sonic Generations besides the graphical improvements.
@@SilverStormShadowUnless they give us Customizable Sonic like they did for SCU, Frontiers and Superstars.
Realistically, I see a Final Horizon extra phase where Shadow gets involved.
@@Signerdragon123or hell maybe they could pull a SA2 and make a final story we’re the time eater is revealed to not have died which would lead into 3 new stages from lost world, forces, and frontiers and then the final boss would be the *new* time eater were you play as super sonic and super shadow were they would use mechanics from sonic frontiers *which would be in the frontiers level as half tutorial for it to prepare for the “true” final boss
I would rather see stages that take place in games were we don’t see shadow what if these is a stage of him working with gun in unleashed
Another great idea actually. It would be really interesting to see what Shadow was doing during the events of games like Unleashed in particular, seeing how the world was literally broken to pieces. I feel like that concept of Shadow’s story during Unleashed warrants it's own game honestly. A great idea.
@@SilverStormShadow man i would love to see mephiles again as unlikely as that is.
2 minor things, the canonicity of Black Knight isn't questionable, it is definitively canon, Sir Percival (knight Blaze) even appeared on the latest Sonic Channel art, as well as Calibur appearing in Frontiers on the back of some special Koco and knowing that the Starfall Islands kinda mess with the gang's head (it's why the place is full of rails that are part of their imaginations) we can kinda safely assume Calibur is a frigment of Sonic's memories in that game.
Second thing is that since we're mentioning spin-offs as Shadow's appearances (you showed Battle so yeah) the Rivals duology and Runners Adventure both feature a playable Shadow that plays a role in the story.
I hadn't actually noticed the Caliburn reference in Frontiers, that's really cool to know actually. I'm actually really pleased to know that Sega acknowledge Black Knight in any way at all honestly.
As for Rivals, I have said it a few times because multiple people have pointed them out, but, despite me being a big fan of the Rivals games, I completely forgot about them. Though in all honesty I'm not sure where they fall canon wise, I always assumed Battle was canon along with the Advance trilogy which is why I included it in the discussion.
@@SilverStormShadow Rivals takes place after 06 and Rush Adventure, since Sonic is a bit surprised Eggman Nega is back in Rush Adventure but doesn't really give a damn in Rivals and of course the reestablishing of Silver naturally. Rivals 2 is much easier to place imo, goes right in-between Secret Rings and Unleashed largely due to the Ifrit. Sonic is taken aback at the sight of an Ifrit in Secret Rings before getting the Water Blue World Ring to defeat it, meanwhile again he doesn't really seem uncomfortable with the Ifrit in Rivals 2, showcasing confidence that screams "Ifrit, been there done that". Plus, the Water Blue World Ring is a collectible in Rivals which would naturally place it after Secret Rings (assuming the collectible are something that exists in-universe too and not just a game feature).
I’d love a Sonic & The Black Knight level
Me too, I'm a massive Black Knight fan, sadly I don't see Sega making one for this game, but maybe a DLC pack for this game could include remade stages from games other than those used in the original Generations.
Personally I don't expect this game to follow the entirely same format as Sonic's half.
I'd say 2 stages per era, and each era is only represented by one game.
That lowers the amount of representation a lot but I think focusing on a few games than all of them makes them feel less like filler and every moment feels more impactful.
I'd say there's only gonna be one or two rival fights really with 3 bosses staying the same because I think that's a great way to end each era off, maybe a 4th boss after but I really think the game will end with Black Doom as the final boss
Yeah, as I said, I don't believe we will see as much from Shadow’s portion as we did from Sonic’s, this is more so just a for fun what if scenario. Though I definitely agree with your quality over quantity point. I, too, would rather less content that is higher quality than more content that is mediocre or straight up bad.
I think the only stages that are more likely are the ones from Sonic Adventure 2 (with a port of Radical Highway from Sonic Generations 3DS), Sonic Heroes, Shadow's game and Sonic 06. As in let's keep it to the games that were out at the time that Sonic Generations was released.
If we're being honest, it isn't that likely we'll see more than we have seen from the trailers, but I liked the idea of thinking up a whole new game that uses stages from all of Shadow’s playable appearances. I also really like the idea of going back to something that had potential but was executed poorly and seeing the full effects of that potential, Sonic P06 is a great example and I'd be really glad to see a Forces stage remade with proper effort and good level design taking advantage of the good stage concepts. Though realistically, you are probably right.
Hear me out on this, but if sega needs more games to pull shadow from, they could use the rivals games, they are canon cus thats how the cast is reintroduced to silver so it’d be a good pick to get 2 stages from
Yeah, like I said in another comment, despite really enjoying the Rivals games, I completely forgot about them while making this video. It would be very nice to see Rivals or Rivals 2 stages remade here.
I feel like devil doom would be the final boss, not only would It be cool to get that remade, some of the story descriptions for the sxsg presents black doom as the main threat of the game because of the time eater's powers, so i feel like he makes sense.
Definitely would be cool to see Devil Doom be remade, and seeing him even more powerful thanks to the Time Eater would be really cool.
I personally think a Good Rival/Boss would be...Shadow himself! Since technically The Original Shadow perished in SA2 and the incarnation we are playing as is his second you could do Shadow vs "The Ultimate Lifeform" as a true test and representation of his character growth! You could also do one of the Shadow Androids!
That's a really interesting idea, going for a Megaman Zero 3 style approach of old vs. new. That would be a very interesting idea to see play out.
Where did this come from? It's long since been confirmed since Shadow the Hedgehog that the Shadow we usually see is the real one.
Or have the rival Shadow be the past version of him from just after the raid on the ARK, more violent and aggressive as he’s still wrought with the guilt and grief of Maria’s death.
If Shadow is gonna fight himself as a rival, why not just make it Lancelot? though I guess that would not count with it being another dimension and such. For the same reason it probably would not happen, would love for it to be Boom Shadow, just so the real one can be disgusted by his attitude and teach him a few lessens.
@@Shywhitefox Perhaps Boom Shadow could show the real Shadow just how weak he is!
Im curious to see what will they do with the time eater i hope it isn’t just the same
I would love them to redo the Time Eater fight entirely because it really is the low point of Generations, which is a shame since the rest of the gameplay is top tier Sonic.
I think a character they should add to save is Maria. What's more we can do that Shadow forgot what his promise to Maria due to something happen and will go through all the levels to remember it. I think it shows a way that Maria is a VERY important part of his life and her promise matters to him.
Yeah, Maria is obviously the most important person in Shadow’s story. The reason I didn't include her is basically because she is dead, honestly. I didn't want to suggest a way for her to be pseudo resurrected because I thought it could ruin her sacrifice since it is the whole foundation of Shadow’s character and story.
@SilverStormShadow make sense. So why not be like fragments of Maria and the fondest memories of her? In a way to do the 'Where was Shadow doing Frontiers?' Because it doesn't make sense if Amy is there if she's already with Sonic and stuck in Cyberspace.
For example:
We know Shadow bought Amy tickets to a concert doing her birthday and why not do something related to that memory?
@@SilverStormShadowwell this is a time related story, so it would be less of a resurrection and more of a snap shot of her from before she dies, the real question would be whether it would right before she is shot or some time earlier, one would be a tear jerker that would be extremely tragic (he would have to send her back to die) and the other would also be sad but she just wouldn't know that she will die.
@@TiredMoonRabbit Very true. I personally think it's a good idea, I was just very aware of how much fans praise Adventure 2 and didn't want to suggest any possible way of changing the events of that game, even temporarily. I definitely think having Maria Maria would provide some very interesting story points in this game, showing Shadow to be sad, knowing that she has to go back to die, and Maria not understanding why he appears sad when he sees her.
Late, but: Even though this wasn't one of his campaign stages? C'mon. Shadow in a Forces stage HAS to be Null Space. Yes, that's SUPER leaning into Shadow as the edgy guy, styling through the void, but fascinating premise for a stage that was pretty much discarded instantly.
That is actually a fantastic idea, and we could actually make an argument that Shadow has been to Null Space. Since Forces glosses over so much of Shadow’s time under the influence of the Phantom Ruby before breaking free after Stage 3: Virtual Reality, who's to say he didn't get sent to Null Space? Who's to say he didn't have to break free from it to escape the effects of the Phantom Ruby? Using Null Space is such a great premise that I can't believe I never thought of it.
Also, don't worry about being late. As a tiny little channel trying to grow, seeing people still be interested in a video nearly a week after it's been uploaded is pretty unfamiliar to me, but definitely very welcome.
But! We gotta fit big the cat somewhere in there!
For sure!
If they bring in westopolis a cool cinematic at the start where all the characters are running besides shadow like the opening intro could be a cool touch before they spread out and become the helper characters for each level
That's actually a pretty interesting idea. What if Shadow had another character with him in each stage, like in Shadow The Hedgehog? Great idea.
All I want from the Sonic Generations end of this Remaster is for Classic Sonic to recieve the Drop Dash ability. SEGA, pls.🙏
I imagine they will, given how popular it has been in pretty much every game it's appeared in.
I have some idea too,inclusion of post generations levels like
Sky road,rise of lyric levels ,forces ,frontiers and mania etc
With inclusion of extra characters who didn’t appear like big the cat,omega,mighty and ray(possibly) with infinite as rival boss and giganto as a mega boss
All good ideas, and I definitely hope Sega expand upon the concept of Generations by including stages and bosses from games that they didn't use originally and from games that came out after Generations, like Lost World, Mania, Frontiers, etc.
I wouldn’t reuse any characters from main generations, if this would be a Shadow version of that game.
I know there isn’t much Shadow/Team Dark related characters, without getting into introduce spin-off characters like Topaz or new characters in general. But I think I would prefer to not retread old ground.
Maybe instead this could be an opportunity to bring in some more characters from the main series? Even if they aren’t related to Shadow, he could still save them like Mighty or something?
It could be interesting to see other characters like Mighty who don't get much screen time. I am working off the assumption that Shadow Generations will not take place at the same time as Sonic Generations does, though if they did, then we couldn't have characters be in 2 places at once. I did want to keep it to characters that Shadow has a connection to for this idea, though going with that approach did involve reusing some characters from main Generations.
of the stages I really want for Sonic X Shadow generations it's gotta be The ARK and then maybe GUN fortress? Best music at least.
Yeah, there are a lot of stages to choose from, especially from Shadow The Hedgehog, a lot of stages could work, butnI wanted to choose the 2 that are definitely canon to the series,as I'm pretty sure there is no official canon route for that game (I know some people say the True Hero route, but there have been alot of videos made stating how that can't be true.)
I will reply to this comment in the future to see if you’re correct
I can almost guarantee I am not correct, but I can hope...
The discussion was interesting but holy heck man, work on your audio balancing, I don't need to be Deaf as well as Blind
Yeah... You're not the first person to mention these issues. There are a few parts that came out far louder in the final uploaded version than they did while the video was in the editing software. I've got this in mind for future videos, though, so these issues shouldn't be present in future.
Well, you know what they say, you live and learn
I could see them using the Ifrit as a boss. Or using the Time Eater as a part 1 of a final boss with it absorbing the Ifrit, Phantom Ruby, which were fragments of it lost, the Ruby would be it's mind and the Ifrit would be it's power, with the Time Eater being it's body. The being that emerged from the fusion would be the god of time, Solaris. Elise would have erased the actions of Sonic 06 but Solaris existed before that point in time and is a being that knows past, present and future, so he would split earlier in time to survive.
This is definitely a cool concept for a final boss, drawing from loads of different sources, which would be very appropriate for a Generations boss fight.
I hope we get stages for the games which came after the first Generations so we could see classic sonic explore Lost World, Forces and Frontiers and possibly have the Titan fight again.
Yes! I hope Sega expands the concept of Generations to include more stages than originally. I'm honestly surprised they didn't make DLC for the Generations originally that added more stages (except for the pinball stage). I'd definitely love to see some more recent stages adapted to Generations.
I hope they put in an ISO/ROM of either SONIC ADVENTURE 2 or Shadow the Hedgehog (like what was in original Generations with the Sonic 1 ROM)
That would definitely be cool. Like I said, it almost certainly won't happen, but it is technically possible.
3:17 Little Jimmy after playing PS2 Shadow the Hedgehog 💀😭
it would be funny if there is four rival fights
first is a shadow android from heroes
second is a shadow android from shadow 05
third is mephiles' shadow form
and the final is the shadow illusion from forces
The fact that there have been so many fake Shadow's that this actually works is crazy. Which makes it even more absurd to me thar Sonic is so surprised to see 'Another Shadow' in Forces, shouldn't he be used to fake Shadows by now?
@@SilverStormShadow lol that's a funny idea
But I don't think sonic ever saw the shadow androids or mephiles (mephiles snuck up from behind so sonic didn't see him and when sonic was brought back mephiles had become Solaris)
I have an interesting idea for how this story could begin, Shadow being knocked out by Sonic in the main game, then waking up a few hours later and seeing Black Doom, which would lead into Final Chase, which I think is his first stage
An interesting idea here. I hadn't really considered how exactly Shadow ends up in this game, but this is actually a great idea that ties the plots of both Sonic Generations and Shadow Generations together.
And the shadow campaign could end near the end of Sonic's campaign. Explaining his presence in the final battle, after defeating Black Doom
Really well done video. I hope Shadows Content is at least Final Horizon Cyberspace quality, personally I see ~7 Stages ~3 Bosses and ~2 Rivals probably with missions and hard mode bosses. I really hope Base Game gets 2 or 3 stages as well Ice Cap, Stardust Speedway, Evil Foundry(I like the Song) and Camelot Castle or Titanic Plain would all be great choices. New skills, songs, concept art, fixed time eater as well. A white space final stage with elements from each world would be great. Even if not in the base game having dlc would be amazing.
I agree completely. I do hope that Shadow’s content is at least as good as the Final Horizon content. Of course, I definitely also want to see Sega expand upon the concept of Generations and see more stages added either from games they didn't use before (Sonic CD, Advance, Rush, Black Knight, etc.) and/ or stages from games released after Generations (Lost World, Mania, Frontiers, etc.)
@@SilverStormShadow It’s pretty cool how you’re still responding to people.
@soulia482 Well, as you may have noticed, I'm not exactly used to my videos having a lot of engagement. Most of my videos don't reach 800 views, let alone 8K, and I've never had anywhere near as many comments on a video as I have gotten for this one. I'm really grateful to everyone who has watched, liked and commented so I think replying to the comments I've gotten here is the least I can do, especially when people bring up legitimately good ideas for this game.
Id say 06 stage is dusty desert since that's were he fought mephilous
Very true, and it would be a good choice, though if Mephiles is the rival fight, we'd probably fight him in Dusty Desert so I didn't want to have both a level and rival fight in the same area, also just for the sake of variety.
@SilverStormShadow fair enough, though for me, it's either kingdom valley, dusty desert, or aquatic base
@thesonicgod55 Yeah, to be fair, I'd honestly be happy with any 06 stage remade, I think they're all good stages, and I think P06 definitely shows the potential that they all have. Aquatic Base is another good one though.
They could follow up the Crisis City ordeal of the main game and do Flame Core since Shadow fought both Mephiles AND Iblis in that location.
21:38 actually super shadow did infact make a return in sonic forces *the mobile version*
True, but I was only considering mainline console games here. Trust me, with how much Sega and Hardlight keep rerunning Super Sonic, Shadow, Silver, and Classic events, it would be impossible not to know that the Supers are in Sonic Forces Speed Battle.
Good news bullet station is in the shadow campaign
Wait, isnt Shadow Gens taking place at the same time as Sonic Gens???
@ThunderSpeedStudios As far as I know, we don't actually know yet. The newest trailer for the game has a tagline saying '2 Epic Adventures' suggesting they are separate, but as far as I know we haven't been told when the game takes place yet (Unless it is revealed in the Gameplay shown after SGF by IGN I believe, which I haven't watched, nor do I intend to.)
Would love if they pulled Sonic Generations levels from the 3DS, that way we'd get more content.
In an ideal world, they would remake all the 3DS Stages as well as remastering the 360 PS3 version. I definitely agree that it would be great to see those levels remade, too.
Sonic need to be a boss battle for shadow!
Yeah, in all honesty, there probably will be a Shadow Vs. Sonic fight in this game, but I wanted to avoid including it since Generations already has a Sonic Vs. Shadow fight to begin with.
Hear me out. Time eater backstory?
That could be interesting, honestly, as the Time Eater really did just appear in Generations, so seeing a backstory could be really interesting.
My ideas for stages:
Space Colony ARK (SA2)
Radical Highway (SA2)
Wild Canyon (Heroes)
VS Neo Metal Sonic
VS Biolizard
The Black Comet (STH '05)
Kingdom Valley ('06)
Dragon's Lair (Black Knight)
VS Mephiles
VS Black Doom
Sunset Heights (Forces)
White Acropolis ('06)
Crystalline Grim (Prime)
VS Infinite
VS Devil Doom
Westopolis (STH '05)
Mystic Jungle ~ White Jungle/Prison Island (Forces and SA2)
Clockwork Gauntlet
VS Solaris, The Time Eater
The additional level is Egg Fleet (Heroes)
Some fantastic choices here, you'll be glad to have seen Kingdom Valley confirmed in the latest trailer, and what either Rail Canyon or Bullet Station as well.
I...don't think Shadow will be playable in Base Generations or dice versa with Sonic in Shadow Generation, because Shadow has many things Sonic doesn't have
@@szszabolcs9582 That's exactly why I'd want to see them playable in each other's stages. It gives you a completely different experience. I do think it's unlikely, but I would really like to see it.
Black Knight and Secret Rings Are cannon, would be nice to have levels of them in the game
Sonic 06 in the cannon line NEVER HAPPENED, since the TIME resets and the adventure never happens, so its a cannon mistake putting it in the game
Yeah, Black Knight and Secret Rings are actually canon. I only just learned that Frontiers references Black Knight officially and, of course, Secret Rings was referenced in the original Generations.
As for 06, while yes, the events of that game were erased during 06, Generations clearly treats it as canon since Crisis City appears in original Generations. It creates confusion in the timeline, but if original Generations will reference it, then Sonic X Shadow Generations will likely reference it as well.
Is it sad I want the final boss to be Devil Doom, but fused with the Time Eater as if Black Doom was using the Time Eater like a set of armor. The end being Shadow makes sure Black Doom stays dead with the finisher being Shadow performing a blast similar to the Eclipse Cannon, or Black Doom escapes and becomes a reccuring villain for Shadow. But Shadow feels more confident now, feeling if he beat Black Doom twice now, he could do it again.
That's a pretty interesting idea, actually. It could act as a mirror to Shadow’s first final boss in SA2, a combination of 2 different, very dangerous forces in the form of the Biolizard and the ARK. The idea of Black Doom being a recurring villain for Shadow is a great idea, too. If Sega has plans to make more standalone Shadow games (which I am hoping for), then he needs to have a central antagonist like how Sonic has Eggman. Black Doom makes the most sense, as his only other competition is Mephiles, and he technically never existed in the first place (unless Generations re-canonised the events of 06 by bringing back Crisis Citu and Silver?)
I kinda doubt they’re going to bring back the unlockable Sonic 1 because of Origins, so I hope they replace it with the 3DS version of Generations. It’s not going to happen, but maybe you could also unlock 06; that would be kinda funny.
You know, I actually didn't consider Origins. They did remove the PC Ports of the Classic Sonic games from Steam with the release of Origins, so it is definitely possible that they don't include it. As for the 3DS version, I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I would love to see it acknowledged and ideally fully remade for this game, but I seriously doubt it, unfortunately.
I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about the Voice Acting. It's no secret that the Fanbase hate Kirk Thornton's take on Shadow due to the angry tone. Shadow would be benefit greatly having Jason Griffith reprise the role since he's generally considered the best Shadow voice because of how cool and mysterious he does it.
Good point actually. I do agree completely that Jason Griffith returning would be fantastic as I definitely think he had the best voice for Shadow. I probably should have mentioned that after poking fun at Shadow in Sonic Boom, arguably his worst appearance, thanks in part to the voice acting as well as the terrible edgy writing.
I know it's not gonna happen but I hope Mephiles is the main villain/final boss of Shadow's campaign. I think the idea of trying to fight his way out of nonexistence could be really interesting.
That is an incredibly interesting concept, and I would absolutely love a game to explore that idea. I think this idea has the potential to be its own unique game entirely.
Honestly what I want to see from this game is adding the stages and bosses from genrations 3ds I’ve played it and I can see how they can be added. I’d love to here back to back. Also both egg man bosses were fun big arm song was straight fire. Also hopefully they make the final boss the 3ds version
I definitely agree with this. It would be great to see the 3DS levels remade for this new remake. The 3DS version is quite underrated, in my opinion, and deserves some love here. The Time Eater fight is definitely a lot better, and that Big Arm music remaster is one of the best Generations soundtracks across both versions.
The thing is that there will be some really be some really good bonus content for the seperate generations remaster.Hopefully colors custimzation.But im looking at the campaign for sonicxshadow.For me the lengeth gotta be 3 to 4 hours long with ton of replayablity.They probably gonna mephiles as well
Yeah, I do hope we see improvements and additions to the Sonic portion, and of course I'd like the game to be longer, as standard Generations can be beat in a couple hours realistically, quicker if you know what you're doing.
I could be wrong but if memory serves me correctly, Shadow Gens is going on at the same time as Sonic Gens so that would throw a wrench to your idea. So unfortunately no Infinite or meta era stages. Rouge is also already trapped in limbo so I doubt she'll make an appearance during Shadow's campaign but Omega was MIA during the original game so I'm sure he'll be involved somehow. I can see Mephiles being the one pulling all the strings though.
As far as I know, we aren't sure if Shadow's campaign takes place at the same time as Sonic's or if they're connected at all. Of course, if they are taking place simultaneously, then that would change things quite a bit.
As much as I wanted neo metal Sonic to appear in the game, let's face it, it would be impossible for modern Sonic in base form to defeat him. (Idw Sonic who is more powerful than the generantions lost For neo, generantions doesn't stand a chance)
True, but Modern Sonic wouldn't be fighting Neo Metal Sonic, it would be Shadow. As the ultimate lifeform, it would probably be a more fair fight. Besides, Generations already takes liberties in terms of power scaling with base Sonic able to defeat Perfect Chaos, which was an inconceivable feat back in SA1.
I really think that in the main game they could add a new era, i don't really know how it would be called, but it would contain a stage from sonic mania a stage from sonic forces and a stage for sonic superstars(i know it is really recent but planet wisp was included at the original just one year after sonic colors) and maaaaaaybe add all the 3ds stages too seeing what is suposed to be radical highway sooooo yeah....but i Still keep in mind that it's a remake so i keep my hopes as low as possible
Definitely. I'd also love to see Sega take advantage of this re-release of Generations and take stages from games that came out after Generations. It would definitely be cool to see Mania stages adapted for Modern Sonic as an example.
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@emm_lqm I'm actually quite surprised by how much I predicted here (I actually make an insider information joke in my latest video), as I said in the video, I wasn't expecting a lot, hence why I called it "My Crazy Ideas" but the game is shaping up to be full of content and looks really good.
You know, I feel like it could be kinda cool if the last two people shadow saved could be tangle or whisper. They both wouldn't be known by shadow but their reactions to him could make for something interesting.
Also a random thought of Shadow running through a city full of zombots. Doubt it will ever happen but the thought makes me smile.
An IDW connection would actually be pretty cool, and it could actually make perfect sense. In Sonic Frontiers, we learn that at the very least, Tangle is canon, which means more IDW content could be as well. If Ian Flynn writes more Sonic games in the future, then it's possible that more IDW content will come in future which would be really awesome. I think Whisper in particular could make for an incredibly interesting choice, given her history with Shadow Androids in IDW.
I had a prediction that this dlc would be two “eras” with 5 bosses 2 rival and 3 bosses with those being: Neo metal for rival and biolizard for boss and then emerl for rival and black doom (or devil doom) for boss 2 and mephiles being the final boss. Also the stages I would choose are radical highway, final chase and final fortress and then Westopolis the last way and then either kingdom valley (for the reason of shadow encountering mephiles there) white acropolis (for saving rouge who had mephiles) or dusty dessert (which I would rather be the final boss arena with rouge and omega helping him)
I totally agree that Mephiles would be such an incredible final boss since I do think he is a fantastic antagonist. Seeing another Team Dark vs. Mephiles fight would be so cool. I'm also glad to see that the idea of using Neo Metal Sonic and Final Fortress seems to be popular.
Perhaps they'd use Asteroid Coaster - He and Omega showed up there in Sonic Colors DS
Yeah, it's definitely a good idea, and Asteroid Coaster is a really fun level. It would be nice to potentially see more 3D sections as opposed to 2D. The reason I didn't include Colours DS is because I'm not entirely sure if it's canon or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Sega has ever said if the Wii game or the DS game is the canon one, so for that reason I opted to leave it out, though it would give us another stage for the Meta Era section.
What about Maria?
See, I considered Maria, but of course she died in the raid of the ARK 50 years before SA2, and I didn't want to essentially resurrect her as her being alive could undo a lot of Shadow’s character.
I would love if you could turn off autopilot on supe sonic since he wil literally just do the stage for you
I hadn't thought about that, but that's actually a good idea. I loved seeing Super Sonic in Generations, but Modern Super Sonic was pretty much press boost and you win.
I hope there is a spin dash skill for modern Sonic (based on the spin dash from sonic frontiers)
That would be pretty cool, actually. It makes perfect sense as well, seeing as Classic Sonic gets the Homing Attack (a mostly modern skill), Modern Sonic could get a mostly classic skill in the form of the Spin Dash. Frontiers Spin Dash is really fun to use, so it would be good to see it implemented in further games.
13:17 Dusty Dessert because Sonic never enters shadow and silvers section
Very true, Dusty Desert would also be a great choice. The reason I didn't go for it is because if Mephiles is a rival fight, that fight would most likely take place at Dusty Desert, so I wanted to go for something else for the sake of variety, but Dusty Desert would probably be a very solid choice.
@@SilverStormShadow good point I didn’t think about that
I would cry seeing modern sonic boosting through studiopolis
Yeah, I do hope that Sega takes full advantage of Generations and adds more stages from games that they didn't use before or games that hadn't come out yet. Seeing Mania stages like Studiopolis or Press Garden remade for Modern Sonic would be incredible.
It seems shadow generations including sonic forces stage..
Hopefully, the stages will play closer to Generations stages than Forces stages.
16:13 Bro's out here predicting the future 💀
It's true, I have insider information lol.
I don’t think they’ll do the time eater. I have a big feeling this game is gonna have a frontiers esque boss fight as the final boss. Solaris, Metal Overlord or Devil doom would fit this well. Infinite can actually conjure up all 3 making a very tough boss rush for the final boss.
I would love to see a Final Boss in the style of the Frontiers Titans, I think that bosses like Metal Overlord, Solaris and Devil Doom would translate very well to the titan style of boss fight.
@@SilverStormShadow considering all of those games you could use projectiles as well it can accomodate Shadow’s moveset well.
About Sonic Generations, it was said that the game will have new content, we don't know what are those changes and if they're going to be minor things like Cosmetics (like Colors Ultimate has), or if they're going to be major things like new modes or even new stages, but there will be new things to this game
And for those wondering why I'm saying "this game" and not "this part/section/campain" for Sonic Generations, it's because basically Sonic x Shadow Generations isn't being treated like one game with 2 campains/stories, it's being treated like a collection of 2 games bundled in one, Sonic Generations, the game from 2011, and Shadow Generations, a completly new game, and they're saying that Sonic Generations will be the same game but with new additions while Shadow Generations will be a totally new experience
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. While I expect new additions to the Sonic portion of Generations, I suspect it will be minor changes like with Colours Ultimate (hopefully without the performance issues) while most of the effort will go into Shadow Generations. I do hope Shadow’s portion will be a similar size to Sonic's, like how I presented it in the video but we'll have to wait and see.
@@SilverStormShadow Considering Shadow Generations is being considered as an entirely new game, and that the 2010 Sonic games tended to be a bit shorter than past games, which would make it easier to make a simillar lenght, with Colors, Generations, Lost World and Forces lasting around 2 hours, compared to Unleashed's and 06's 12 hours, SA1's 6 hours or SA2's 3 hours they really are shorter, I think it would be extremly disappointing for the game to be shorter than Generations, so I would hope the game to be the same lenght of Generations and add 2 extra hours, which would make both games in total have 4 hours, that is a really good lenght already
As bad as Forces is, it made sense for Episode Shadow be shorter than Forces itself considering it was always considered a DLC for Forces not a new game (although 16 minutes is a bit underwhelming, I would expect at least 30 minutes of it), but Shadow Generations HAS to add a lot, being a new game coming along with a 13 year old game, and I've heared someone that is working at the game said the game will have a simillar lenght to Generations, which I hope it's true
Screw shadow, we need Sonic Generations & Knuckles
Sonic X Shadow Generations and Knuckles!
Amazing video with fantastic ideas!! I love it a lot!! My only nitpick would be audio leveling, but other than that, this video is a 10/10!
Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoyed it. As for audio levels, there were a few parts where I had to rerecord some of the lines because I said them wrong or they just sounded off, and there were parts where I raised the volume levels and it didn't sound as loud or as quiet as it did when it was uploaded.I haven't really done anything like this before, so for future videos, I know what worked and what didn't. Thanks for the positive feedback, and I hope you look forward to more in the future.
@SilverStormShadow Of course! I look forward to continuing joining you on your content creation journey! Have fun and keep up the great work!
If u wanna get technically, Shadow is in the DS version of Sonic Colors and it shared the levels from the Wii version so that could be possible
Yeah, a few people have mentioned Colours DS. I didn’t include it since I'm not sure whether the Wii or DS version is canon. Seeing Asteroid Coaster remade in Generations would be really cool though.
@@SilverStormShadow I'm assuming the Wii version is the Canon one, but who's to say the other side cutscences from DS and the Secret Final Boss also happened in between levels in the Wii version.
Sega said if they would sell dlc if Sonic Generations sold well, it did Sega never released actual dlc for generations such a pity as it would have been a cash cow for Sega ! Fingers crossed Sega will make dlc levels generations this time !
Definitely, I still can't believe they never capitalised on that. I think Generations dlc would have made them a lot of money. Hopefully, this time, they actually go through with making it.
@@SilverStormShadow Exactly I was so surprised Sega not doing anything, hope we will at least get the 3DS levels added to game or dlc !
My presonal wishlist for new Sonic stages and Rival boss and Main Boss
Studiopolis - Sonic Mania
Windy Hill - Sonic Lost World
Speed Jungle - Sonic Superstars
Rival Boss - Infinite - Sonic Forces
Boss - Wyvern - Sonic Frontiers
That sounds really cool. It would be nice to see Sega expand on Generations and remake stages/ bosses from games that came out after the original Generations. I don't see it happening, but it's fun to speculate.
@SilverStormShadow I think if we do get dlc for Sonic X Shadow Generations, it's gonna be new stages and 2 new boss fights
@Karson-Duh-Fox I hope Sega actually takes advantage of DLC with this game and does more than give us a random pinball stage. I'm still surprised the original Generations never had more levels and bosses added through DLC.
5:38
Well no, on the technically part. At least for me.
Since as you said, Sir Lancelot is a different character from Shadow. So I wouldn’t say Shadow technically appeared and was playable in Black Knight. Similar to how I wouldn’t say Tails technically makes an appearance as the major villain of Prime.
Like it is a version of the character for sure, but since we are talking about strictly Main Series Shadow, I wouldn’t say he technically appears in that game as a playable character. (Besides, Lancelot never had Shadow to our knowledge as a real name)
Side note, Shadow does technically appear in Black Knight tho, in the art gallery. And even as a playable character in the multiplayer if you want to count that.
I know this comment is stupidly pointless.
Yeah, I know he's a completely different character, I just thought that if I didn't mention Lancelot as a playable character, someone would mention it.
@@SilverStormShadow Doomed if you do, doomed if you don’t lol.
@@SaddieMoon Precisely lol
I would really like too see emerl as a rival fight
Emerl is definitely another great candidate for a rival fight. The only reason I didn't choose him was because I thought Mephiles was a better choice for that era.
Mephiles *absolutely* has to be a boss fight in this game. And I really hope, if that is the case, that they can get Dan Green to voice him again.
Yes! Dan Green did such a phenomenal job voicing him before, and still to this day has one of the best evil laughs in any game, in my opinion. If Mephiles returns, Dan Green is a must.
I’d also like for Sonic to fight Mephiles as well.
If any additional games were to be included in SXSG like Sonic 1 via the unlock-able Mega Drive controller item, Adventure 2 would be the most likely title since it’s Shadow’s debut game and it’s over 20 years old, similar to how Sonic 1 was 20 years old in 2011.
Yeah, like I said, I'd be very surprised if something like SA2 or Shadow The Hedgehog were included in Sonic X Shadow Generations, but it would be very cool if they did. SA2 definitely makes more sense, as it is the older game, the more popular game, and it's Shadow’s first appearance. I really just wanted to say that technically, we could have Shadow The Hedgehog included if Sega wanted to as the emulation technology exists in some form on all 3 console platforms.
Did omega not debut in sonic adventure?
No, Omega debuted in Heroes, Gamma debuted in Adventure 1 and has a similar colour scheme to Omega, so that might be who you're thinking of.
Loved all these ideas dude!! May I also recommend adding some music in the background of the video?
Thanks man, definitely a good idea to have music in the background. I think I'll try that in future videos. Thanks for the feedback.
@@SilverStormShadow no problem! I’d really love to see more videos like this where it’s just talking about your ideas for Sonic games and stuff :)
@@C_SonicDude Thanks, I've always been a huge Sonic fan, Sonic Heroes was my first game ever, and seeing how well this video and the trailer breakdown have been received, I'll definitely be making more Sonic content in future.
@@SilverStormShadow I look forward to seeing it!
hope they don't make shadow stages with force design in mind. It will furthely prove that they just want people to hate boost so they can get rid of it and focus on a more cheap and easy mechanic to design around.
Nonetheless, just give modding support.
Oh definitely not, I'm really hoping that Shadow’s stages are of the same design quality of Sonic’s stages from Generations and not anything like Forces design.
5:19
Sonic Rivals & Sonic Rivals 2 as well.
Yeah... As I've said here a couple of times, despite me actually really enjoying the Rivals games, I completely forgot about them, but taking a stage from either game could be pretty interesting. One stage that comes to mind thst I'd like to see would be Meteor Base Zone, but any acknowledgement of the Rivals games would be nice to see.
Shadow appears in Colors DS, which seems to be the canon one out of two, due to the added scenes with Sonic’s extended cast, along with the true final boss with the emeralds. So I’d like to see another Colors level.
I honestly kinda forgot about Colours DS. That is definitely a game they could take a level from if they wanted to, despite Shadow not being playable, he is there, and that could provide a completely different perspective on the stage compared to Sonic's experience.
id put egg emperor as the dreamcast boss
That would be cool, my choice for the Dreamcast boss fight personally would be the Metal Overlord, but the Biolozard is confirmed for this game and that will be the Dreamcast era boss. It makes sense, but I would definitely have preferred Metal Overlord, and the Egg Emperor as well.
You know they could theoretically use Astroid Coaster from Sonic Colors because Shadow makes an appearance in Astroid Coaster in the DS version of Sonic Colors. They could also pull a stage from one of the Sonic Rivals games, which has Shadow as a playable character. Although that might not be as likely.
Wow, the rivals games... Despite being one of the only people who really likes the Rivals games, I completely forgot about them... Oops. But yes, they definitely could take a stage from Rivals or Rivals 2, though like Black Knight, I think the canonicity of the Rivals games is unclear.
@@SilverStormShadow I feel like Asteroid Coaster from Sonic Colors is a more likely choice just due to the fact that shadow makes an appearance in that area in the DS version
@Iamstickman True, I left Colours DS out because Shadow isn't actually playable, and also, I'm not sure if the DS version is canon or if the Wii version is. Asteroid Coaster would be a great stage to bring back, though. I'd be all for it, honestly.
@@SilverStormShadow I don't think it would imply that the DS version of Sonic Colors is Canon. I just think it would be a neat little reference to the fact that shadow does make an appearance in Asteroid Coaster in Sonic Colors DS
4:16 yo what happened to the audio there
Yeah, while I recorded this part, I accidentally said Jedi Survivor instead of Jedi Starfighter, so I had to rerecord it, and it came out different than the rest. Unfortunately, there are a couple of other moments that this happened in. I might invest in a proper mic one day...
No shot we hating on time eater 🤣
Yeah, the Time Eater has always been such an underwhelming final boss to me. It was so well built up only to be pretty disappointing.
These are very awesome ideas!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked them.
neat concepts
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It would be cool to see Infinite return as the main villain of Sonic X Shadow Generations
I actually wouldn't be opposed to the idea, to be honest. I think Infinite has a lot of potential and was just handled poorly in Forces. Having him back with a stronger motive than "Shadow said I'm weak, waahh!" would be great to see.
Recommendation: You can make loud segments for the funny parts, but don't make it too loud. At this point, people just lower down the volume to the point they don't hear you. It's not funny anymore, it's just a jumpscare segment to click off the video.
Fair enough, like I said, I'm fairly new to video editing and I'm definitely new to including jokes or funny parts to videos, so I wasn't entirely sure how it would turn out. It did sound quieter while editing though after hearing it back now it's uploaded it is definitely too loud in places so I'll keep that in mind for future.
I don’t think SEGA would show the future games, the frontiers idea makes sense but it would be cool if he saves sage or a hallucination of sage, him not knowing her but being reminded of Maria so he goes to save her, as for the last stage, maybe something from generations, perhaps a rewritten of the ending adding sonics friends to the final fight
Yeah, like I said, I don't really expect any of what I've suggested here to come to fruition, especially with the third era stuff, it was more of a what if scenario that also worked around the issue of the Meta era having very little playable Shadow. Having Sage as a saveable character sounds like a really cool idea, and having Shadow being reminded of Maria by Sage would work quite well.
Things I love to see in Sonic X Shadow Generation
since we already know what stages are already coming seen in the trailers. stages we haven't had before I like to see in Sonic x shadow generations
Sonic Adventure 2: White Jungle, Mr unsmiley (Sky Rail)
Sonic Heroes: Casino Park, Mystic Mansion, Egg Fortress,
Shadow The Hedgehog: Digital Circuit, Circus Park, Cryptic Castle, Lava Shelter, Black Comet,
Sonic 06: White Acropolis, Dusty Dersert
It be really nice to get a chance to have theme park, desert, snowy stages in sonic generations.
For bosses in Sonic X Shadow Generations I love to see are
Sonic Adventure 2: Obviously Biolizard
Sonic Heroes: Neo Metal Sonic,
Shadow The Hedgehog: Black Doom,
Sonic 06: Mephiles The Dark,
Whoever the final boss is gonna be for shadow in Sonic X Shadow Generations, we really need Super Shadow back we haven't had shadow turn super for years since Sonic 06.
I like shadow's hub world to have a collection room with artwork slideshow about shadow's history, shadow's songs, cutscenes to watch from sonic X shadow generations just like how sonic has one in the original sonic generations.
These are some really great ideas. I'm definitely hoping for more stages than what has been shown, Final Fortress would be fantastic, and White Acropolis would be great to see as well. I do hope they take advantage of the Hub World and have more music and artwork like Sonic has.
Ian flynn originally head cannoned that the time eater was mephelis so i can see them pulling some crazy plot twist.. maybe after sonic beats time eater in the original story shadow could then later stumble upon it reverting back to being mephelis or something.. or even better.. make it so that the final boss is changed entirely like a true ending for completing both stories
That was always an interesting idea from Ian Flynn, and it would be kinda cool to see it used officially somehow. The idea of also having a sort of last story unlock after beating both campaigns revealing Mephiles to be the true final boss would be great to see, and also rectify the issue from 06 of Mephiles and Sonic never actually meeting until Mephiles kills Sonic.
I could see one of the Robotniks to be freed. Ivo, Gerald or Maria. Gerald and Maria would be brought forward in time but they would be sent back to their own time.
I did consider the Robotniks, but I decided against their inclusion because Gerald and Maria are deceased so I didn't want to bring them in and kinda pseudo resurrect them, and Ivo was one I wasn't sure about since he and Shadow aren't exactly allies, they're not really on the same side except for in SA2.
I could see Shadow freeing the Classic Robotnik who has no idea who Shadow is. Classic Robotnik would mention that he is designing a new outfit for the launch of the Egg Carrier.